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Adaptor to get a full charge from 3rd party chargers

Got this from the German Amazon site. 5 days shipping to UK.
http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B004IK...753396-0643611?redirect=true&ref_=oss_product
Works with a 2 amp charger I have, no not charging symbol.
Will test later with laptop and Mac usb
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Wait, so finding a 2 amp 3rd party charger isn't enough?

No, there is some circuitry in a branded Samsung Tab charger that tells the tab to pull down the full charge. A third party charger will work but very slowly and the tab shows a not charging symbol in the menu bar. This little adaptor in my first post fools the tab into thinking it is connected to an official charger.
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sparkyxda said:
No, there is some circuitry in a branded Samsung Tab charger that tells the tab to pull down the full charge. A third party charger will work but very slowly and the tab shows a not charging symbol in the menu bar. This little adaptor in my first post fools the tab into thinking it is connected to an official charger.
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Well that sucks. And its good to know.
Thanks for the link.

How do we get this in the us?
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Imoseyon said:
How do we get this in the us?
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Don't know. The package came in a jiffy bag with just the invoice and no other packaging so it's hard to do any detective work by manufacturer or product code.
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Found it on the UK Amazon site.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Sam...9S/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1300658910&sr=8-14
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I ordered a couple from the Amazon DE website a lot cheaper than Amazon UK, if you order more than one, even though you have to pay post and packing.
Nice find i just hope they work.
I don't read German so it was fun placing the order
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375193&pf_rd_i=301128

Tinderbox (UK) said:
I ordered a couple from the Amazon DE website a lot cheaper than Amazon UK, if you order more than one, even though you have to pay post and packing.
Nice find i just hope they work.
I don't read German so it was fun placing the order
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375193&pf_rd_i=301128
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Wish I'd bought two at the time. Now I have to pay another lot of postage.
It's charging now from my laptop USB. 5% in 10 mins so much faster than normal.

I have a couple of these data/charge cable on order, they seem to get a good review, they are cheap at only £1.60 each.
They take about 10-15 days to deliver, so dont buy if your in a hurry.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-data-cable-for-samsung-p1000-100cm-length-51799

Hi to all
Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845844
I have converted 5 chargers adding those resistrors and all works like the stock one

Tinderbox (UK) said:
I have a couple of these data/charge cable on order, they seem to get a good review, they are cheap at only £1.60 each.
They take about 10-15 days to deliver, so dont buy if your in a hurry.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-data-cable-for-samsung-p1000-100cm-length-51799
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I bought a couple of 3rd party cables too. They seem identical to the original, minus the Samsung logo. You'll still need an adaptor like in my first post of you want to charge fast from usb or 3rd party chargers.
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papatzis said:
Hi to all
Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845844
I have converted 5 chargers adding those resistrors and all works like the stock one
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I guess the stuff you used is essentially what's inside these adaptors.
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I dont want to go modding chargers, some are not easy to get into, also some device might not like the mod, it`s easier just plug in an usb adaptor , also+ , I am definitely not going to mod the ports on my notebook , when the usb adaptor work on your notebook too.
papatzis said:
Hi to all
Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845844
I have converted 5 chargers adding those resistrors and all works like the stock one
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dunno with tabs, but i had an experience with blackberry which oftenly charge with 3rd party charger (for car) which caused ic charging damage. I had mili charger but haven't use it with tabs just because the original travel charger is so simple to carried out with

I received my usb/usb adaptor`s and they seem to work great with all my usb chargers and even with my notebook, though the data connection does not work.

There is no circuitry guys. Its a standard for USB charging where the data lines are shorted. I use my 1A HTC desire charger regularly and it works just fine. Just need to get a good charger.
What I'd like to see is something to let me charge and sync at the same time because often at work battery dies while I'm debugging.
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alias_neo said:
There is no circuitry guys. Its a standard for USB charging where the data lines are shorted. I use my 1A HTC desire charger regularly and it works just fine. Just need to get a good charger.
What I'd like to see is something to let me charge and sync at the same time because often at work battery dies while I'm debugging.
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That's odd. My desire charger shows the Not Charging symbol and takes ages to charge my Tab
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Not Correct, I have been soldering the data lines together on my usb chargers for years to get my Sony mp3 to charge and non of these chargers will give me full charge mode, just trickle, now the usb/usb adaptor works great.
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That's odd. My desire charger shows the Not Charging symbol and takes ages to charge my Tab
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Have to agree here! I've several HTC USB chargers, and not one of them will do more than trickle charge my Tab unless I use one of these adaptors.
Regards,
Dave

[Q] LT30p not charging or connectin using old HTC microUSB cables

Hello all,
so, this is driving me nuts. I have two HTC microUSB cables that I've been using with my old phone that for some reason don't seem to work at all with the new xperia T. I can only charge it and connect it using the stock sony cable or the (very long) cable that came with my Kindle. I tried with 3 different wall chargers (Sony, LG and generic wall outlet splitter with USB): all of them charge the phone using Sony and Kindle cable, none using the HTC cables. Anyone has any idea WTF is happening?
Thanks!

Based on my friend's experience, HTC tends to make cables that work only for their device. I'm not 100% sure.
Humans have evolved to be smarter, but there's one thing we can't get rid off. It's human stupidity.

prodeguerriero said:
Hello all,
so, this is driving me nuts. I have two HTC microUSB cables that I've been using with my old phone that for some reason don't seem to work at all with the new xperia T. I can only charge it and connect it using the stock sony cable or the (very long) cable that came with my Kindle. I tried with 3 different wall chargers (Sony, LG and generic wall outlet splitter with USB): all of them charge the phone using Sony and Kindle cable, none using the HTC cables. Anyone has any idea WTF is happening?
Thanks!
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I think there are different versions of the cable, if you take a close look at the end which goes into your phone you may be able to count a different number of connections....
Someone correct me if I am wrong

I'm charging my lt30p atm with the cable that came with my HTC desire S. Also connecting with pc is not a problem hetr
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Erica Law said:
Based on my friend's experience, HTC tends to make cables that work only for their device. I'm not 100% sure.
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Well, both cables used to charge also my LG p500 without any issue. I'd be more inclined to say that the fault is on Sony's side as of now.
I think there are different versions of the cable, if you take a close look at the end which goes into your phone you may be able to count a different number of connections....
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Slightly different shape of the inner part of the connector, but same exact number of connections.
I'm charging my lt30p atm with the cable that came with my HTC desire S. Also connecting with pc is not a problem hetr
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I envy you very much indeed.
So, to sum it up, it can't be anything to do with the phone itself, but it seems to be some kind of incompatibility between the USB plug and socket. This is kinda crappy. Last thing I want is to buy yet another cable. Haven't they decided to use the same standard to avoid this kind of crap???
Thnaks to all of you btw!

Just use the cable that came with the phone for PC connection and the other ones for charging...

They don't work either way. It's like they don't even connect. Point is I don't understand why. It's just a cable. Anyway, thanks for all the input.
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prodeguerriero said:
They don't work either way. It's like they don't even connect. Point is I don't understand why. It's just a cable. Anyway, thanks for all the input.
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Some cables are manufactured not to work with most phones. Just like how we can't use our plug (for the wall socket) to charge an Apple device.
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Erica Law said:
Some cables are manufactured not to work with most phones. Just like how we can't use our plug (for the wall socket) to charge an Apple device.
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My previous experience doesn't seem to comply with what you just said. I've been exchanging chargers and cables between 1 LG phone, 1 HTC phone and an iPhone 4, and all the combinations work. The problem has arisen with the new Xperia T. I'll go to a Sony center and see what they have to say about it.
Cheers!

The t/x/v have faster higher rated chargers so some old ones don't work, I can't use old 2011 Line charger or moto charger but can use an earlier v8 charger...
If you look closely at the cable there are parts that click into place, if the cable your trying hasn't got these it won't work
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mpiekp said:
The t/x/v have faster higher rated chargers so some old ones don't work, I can't use old 2011 Line charger or moto charger but can use an earlier v8 charger...
If you look closely at the cable there are parts that click into place, if the cable your trying hasn't got these it won't work
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As I said, no matter how weak the charger is, I always get power with the sony and Amazon cable, and none with htc ones. It is really annoying. The cables don't seem to have any major physical differences.
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My TL was also being picky about what cables I could use and it eventually died
. check this post to make sure this is not happening to you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355862

prodeguerriero said:
Hello all,
so, this is driving me nuts. I have two HTC microUSB cables that I've been using with my old phone that for some reason don't seem to work at all with the new xperia T. I can only charge it and connect it using the stock sony cable or the (very long) cable that came with my Kindle. I tried with 3 different wall chargers (Sony, LG and generic wall outlet splitter with USB): all of them charge the phone using Sony and Kindle cable, none using the HTC cables. Anyone has any idea WTF is happening?
Thanks!
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hmm, i not sure about HTC cable, i have tried out 3 types of cable include stock cable
SONY original cable
NOKIA Cable (from My friend)
SAMSUNG cable
i dun seem have any problem to my charger, i use nokia cable to do fastboot.

gpgon said:
My TL was also being picky about what cables I could use and it eventually died
. check this post to make sure this is not happening to you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355862
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I'll take a look, thanks!:good:

[Q] Charger

Can someone tell me if the Htc One charger is the same as the One S please.

Most chargers nowadays unless an iDevice are the same 5v micro usb
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Thanks, just making sure. Replacing chargers and car chargers and HDMI adaptors is almost as expensive as the phone itself. :laugh:

born_fisherman said:
Most chargers nowadays unless an iDevice are the same 5v micro usb
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Careful. HTC does something funky with the wiring in their chargers and phones such that, when using a non HTC charger, the phone will only charge at 0.5 amp, vs 1 amp with an HTC charger. Net result is that your phone will take twice as long to charge with a non HTC charger. There are several threads on this subject, and I've observed it first hand on my One. The non HTC charger shouldn't hurt your phone though, only your patience...
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I've never had an issue.. have had HTC for years now and have gone thru several chargers bought from walgreens and they all seem to work fine. I usually charge overnight anyway so I never time the charge lengths. Ymmv I guess?
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I usually charge overnight as well. But I travel a lot, and when I do the GPS - a battery burner - gets a lot of use. What got me started exploring this, was when I saw my HTC ONE battery going in the wrong direction (slowly) while charging in the car while using the GPS. This led me to learning more than I ever wanted to know about HTC chargers and their funky wiring ... Apparently you can get around this by shorting two wires in the USB cable, but I have no intention of trying that!
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levman said:
I usually charge overnight as well. But I travel a lot, and when I do the GPS - a battery burner - gets a lot of use. What got me started exploring this, was when I saw my HTC ONE battery going in the wrong direction (slowly) while charging in the car while using the GPS. This led me to learning more than I ever wanted to know about HTC chargers and their funky wiring ... Apparently you can get around this by shorting two wires in the USB cable, but I have no intention of trying that!
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Ok I guess I can see that when using a high energy use app like navigation
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levman said:
Careful. HTC does something funky with the wiring in their chargers and phones such that, when using a non HTC charger, the phone will only charge at 0.5 amp, vs 1 amp with an HTC charger. Net result is that your phone will take twice as long to charge with a non HTC charger. There are several threads on this subject, and I've observed it first hand on my One. The non HTC charger shouldn't hurt your phone though, only your patience...
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I don't think the problem is at HTC but the charger you might have. I have successfully charge @ ~800mA (1000mA = 1 Amp)with different chargers ( Asus charger, Samsung charger and a newer palm charger). My new blackberry charger can charge @ ~600mA.
If I use my older palm charger, my Nokia charger, my old blackberry or a dollar store charger, it will only charge @ ~3xxmA.
If you read the spec carefully, you will see most newer *smartphone* charger max @ 1A, and older charger max @ 500mA. (or my BB charger max @ 800mA. )
So it's OK to use non HTC charger, just be sure to read the spec and find one charger =>1A.
Hope this help.

I'm on the lookout for a car charger someone can confirm will charge the One at full 1A speeds. I don't mean one where it claims to on amazon's site, but that you've actually witnessed it. Thanks for any help!

QuantifyThis said:
I'm on the lookout for a car charger someone can confirm will charge the One at full 1A speeds. I don't mean one where it claims to on amazon's site, but that you've actually witnessed it. Thanks for any help!
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Yeah, I can't find anything on eBay or Amazon meet their description. The one works good for me is a Verizon Charger but it cost 35 usd...
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levman said:
I usually charge overnight as well. But I travel a lot, and when I do the GPS - a battery burner - gets a lot of use. What got me started exploring this, was when I saw my HTC ONE battery going in the wrong direction (slowly) while charging in the car while using the GPS. This led me to learning more than I ever wanted to know about HTC chargers and their funky wiring ... Apparently you can get around this by shorting two wires in the USB cable, but I have no intention of trying that!
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That is correct, usb specification is 5v, with 500mA (0.5A) maximum, hence the modified cable you refer to. The simplest way if you don't wish to modify cables is to buy HTC car charger
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=246652&phone=246667
Which will charge at up to 1A with any HTC phone
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You can find HTC chargers on amazon that will give you the full 1 amp. Look for older phone models like treo pro or mytouch 4g and they'll be cheaper but work fine.
QuantifyThis said:
I'm on the lookout for a car charger someone can confirm will charge the One at full 1A speeds. I don't mean one where it claims to on amazon's site, but that you've actually witnessed it. Thanks for any help!
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What happens if I charge the phone with a 2am charger? Does it damage my battery? Will it charge faster?

ksarius said:
What happens if I charge the phone with a 2am charger? Does it damage my battery? Will it charge faster?
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The charger *should* only provide 2A if the device (phone) request it.

Just thought I would chime in on some observations here. Long story short, when I bought my HTC One, I left the charger in the box and continued to use my multi-port USB charger with 3x1A ports and 1x2.1A port.
When connected to the 1A port, I found it quite strange that my phone was taking 4 hours or longer to fully charge. Also observed the same thing when connected to the 2.1A port. I was thinking that something was up with my phone somehow limiting the maximum charge current.
Anyway, I read a suggestion to use SystemPanel Lite to check for USB or AC power connected and sure enough it was reporting USB power. I remember the case with my Xperia X10 where you have to short out the two middle (data) pins on the cable or in the charger so that the phone detects that it is being connected to an actual charger. I tested it with my old Xperia charger, another generic USB charger, and the HTC charger and managed to get SystemPanel Lite to report it as AC connected.
But here is the interesting part. I have a car charger rated for 1A. Initially it never worked with the Xperia X10 until I opened it up and shorted out the two data pins. It has worked ever since. However, when I connect this to my HTC One, it still reports it as USB connected.
This has got me thinking that there maybe something more than just shorting out the two data pins for the HTC One to detect that an actual charger is connected. Just some food for thought.

Don't tell me HTC pulled an Apple and we have to buy only HTC chargers to get full speed charging? Does anyone have a confirmed non-HTC car charger that reports "AC" charging in SystemPanel Lite?

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Don't tell me HTC pulled an Apple and we have to buy only HTC chargers to get full speed charging? Does anyone have a confirmed non-HTC car charger that reports "AC" charging in SystemPanel Lite?
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As per my post, I tested a generic USB 1A charger (it's at home, but it was one that was supplied with a Netcomm MyZone) and with my stock Sony Ericsson USB 700mA charger, both of which reported as AC connected. There has to be another way that these can be detected as chargers other than a simple short of the data pins.
Tested not to work so far has been an iPhone charger, Amacrox AX025-TACH1, Philips Power Bug, and two generic USB car chargers both with the data pins open then shorted.

Non HTC charger plugged into wall reports ac power. Proof
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Are either of those car chargers?

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Are either of those car chargers?
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Good point. My apologies. The work "car" managed to be skipped as I read it.

[Q] Battery drain while connected to car charger

Using CM10.1 (06-14 nightly) on my One (International), connected to a Belkin 1A USB car charger with a decent quality USB cable. The phone discharges slowly in general use, and quickly when using GPS. Looking in battery settings it shows "Charging (AC)", which would suggest that it's drawing the full 1A for charging. I didn't notice this problem on stock Sense, although it's been a while since I used that.
Has anybody else seen anything similar on their One? Is there any useful information I could get from a logcat to give to the CM devs?
Thanks in advance,
Jon

OK I checked on stock and it does drain similarly. Should I just get a more powerful charger or could I have a hardware problem? Tried with 2 different 1A car adaptors.
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Have you got a clamp meter or know someone who has one? That will tell you how many amps are going into your phone. It does sound like the charger though as your charger at home should be similar voltage/amps to the car charger only the AC charger needs a transformer and rectifier to step down the voltage and change it from AC to DC, car chargers just step down the voltage a little (12v-5v) so require little additional size. Probably easiest to swap out the charger, they're pretty cheap
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I think you need a bigger charging maybe the charger is not able to provide the needed ampere.
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Thanks guys. I've ordered a 3.6A charger which had reviews saying it worked well for high power usage Android devices. So hopefully that'll sort things out. I'll post back my results.

OK, tried with the new charger and a good USB cable, and all is well. Even with GPS and Spotify running together the phone still charges slowly.

jondrums said:
OK, tried with the new charger and a good USB cable, and all is well. Even with GPS and Spotify running together the phone still charges slowly.
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It's probably not about the Amp rating of the charger. You probably had a cheap charger unit that couldn't deliver the amperage the phone needed either cos it was using cheap parts or something. A proper 1amp charger will still do as well as your new 3.6A charger

ArmedandDangerous said:
It's probably not about the Amp rating of the charger. You probably had a cheap charger unit that couldn't deliver the amperage the phone needed either cos it was using cheap parts or something. A proper 1amp charger will still do as well as your new 3.6A charger
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Yeah that makes sense. I just thought that if I got a massively over-specced charger then it would at least manage 1A Would have expected the Belkin one to work properly in the first place but never mind.

[Q] Scosche - Revolt 2-port USB car charger - 2 12W ports

Hi everyone,
I just bought this car charger, hoping that I could get a faster charging inside my car, as it says at Amazon (and also in the pack of the product) that it works with android phones (Motorola’s ones as well).
Unfortunately, it seems it does not work with our Nexus 6.
Has anyone own the same charger and have similar troubles?
Regards.

For our phones you need a Qualcomm certified charger that charges at 2amps 18w or higher.
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Thanks,
But, despite not being a certified quick charger (Qualcomm technology) any charger should work anyhow whith the phone, right? I have myself plenty of old ones that works fine with the Nexus, but this one.
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pauleandro said:
Thanks,
But, despite not being a certified quick charger (Qualcomm technology) any charger should work anyhow whith the phone, right? I have myself plenty of old ones that works fine with the Nexus, but this one.
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I looked the product up. And it seems some people received the 10w model. And they are having issues with charging phones that require 2.0A or higher. Maybe you should look into it. They might of sent you an older model.
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defvayne said:
I looked the product up. And it seems some people received the 10w model. And they are having issues with charging phones that require 2.0A or higher. Maybe you should look into it. They might of sent you an older model.
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Read that too, but, unfortunately (or fortunately) I received the 12w model (2 12w ports)... But it doesn't work as well.
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I have the charger and it works fine to charge the phone. The post that states you need a Qualcomm Quick Charge certified charger is also completely false. You only need that if you want to take advantage of the fastest charging rates possible, but other chargers certainly work just fine, and I RARELY use the charger that came with my phone to charge it.
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pauleandro said:
Hi everyone,
I just bought this car charger, hoping that I could get a faster charging inside my car, as it says at Amazon (and also in the pack of the product) that it works with android phones (Motorola’s ones as well).
Unfortunately, it seems it does not work with our Nexus 6.
Has anyone own the same charger and have similar troubles?
Regards.
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How about a bit of clarifications... does not charge AT ALL? Or charges, but slow?
If it does not charge at all, then you need to make sure that it is actually making contact with the cig lighter plug. Does the charger have a light? If so, does the light turn on? Have you tried a different USB wire? If you've tried a different wire, and can confirm that it is getting power from your cig lighter plug, and it still doesn't charge AT ALL, then your unit is defective. End of story.
If it charges, but slow, then its working as expected.

It doesn't charge at all.
Tested again with an iPad and with a blackberry and it works normally with both. It just does not works with my Nexus 6...
BTW, my Nexus 6 works with other car charges that I have (an old Samsung one and a belkin too).
Regards.
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