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What to do after root?

I have just rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. Should I uninstall Carhome and F-secure or upgrade to Titanium Backup Pro and freeze them instead? Freezing means that they will still be taking up space on the device right? Also, for my telecom stock apps, can I simply uninstall them without ramifications?
Any rom to recommend? I am new at this.

rambell said:
I have just rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. Should I uninstall Carhome and F-secure or upgrade to Titanium Backup Pro and freeze them instead?
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Freezing first is always the recommended action (to simply see what happens), however uninstalling these two has been properly tested by "the community", and there are no negative consequences. Just do it.
As for TB Pro, it is the only must-have application for rooted users in my view, just buy it, it's an awesome tool.
Freezing means that they will still be taking up space on the device right?
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Yes, but you won't get any more useful space by removing them. They're in the /system partition, which during normal use will never get written to. (Only you, the rooted user, can do that.) Even updates get installed to the /data-partition. The only real difference between freezing and uninstalling is what happens after a wipe (factory reset.) If you have frozen an app, it'll be active after a reset. Uninstall apps you are sure you'll never need, freeze everything else you don't want.
For example, any sane user will install an alternate launcher, like Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, ADW etc. These are so much better than the stock launcher you'll be convinced you'll never use LG Home again, and it'll be tempting to uninstall it. Mistake. The alternate launcher will get installed to /data/app, so if you ever need to reset your phone, it'll get deleted. When the phone boots next, it won't have ANY launcher installed, and you won't be able to do anything.
Also, for my telecom stock apps, can I simply uninstall them without ramifications?
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Impossible to say without knowing what they do. Freeze them and see what happens during a week or two of normal use.
Any rom to recommend? I am new at this.
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They're all pretty good. With the latest batches of ROMs you basically have to choose between a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini. There's a broken headlight or a scratch in the paint here and there, but you really can't go wrong. It's all a matter of personal need and taste- try them out and decide which works best for you.

Thanks for the detailed explanation esp on the pros and cons of freezing vs uninstalling. I am gonna try out launcherpro and see how it goes before venturing into the unknown world of roms.

from a greek post I made once translated with google because of boredome
The Root is the android that is the administrator for windows
Reasons for doing root:
Market enabler: see all applications on the market
Titanium Backup: You make backup all applications
startup manager: regulates what runs on the principle on your mobile
adfree: stop the advertisements
droidwall: close the internet on which application you want.
fasterfix: the gps you have set for GREECE consistently fast locking.
pimpmycpu: you over or underclock your mobile for extra performance or economy of battery
systemapp remover: place systems that take away but you are achristes or annoying.
widgetlocker: changing the lockscreen unrestricted
touchkeylights: lowers the Volt led for saving battery power or simply because it bothers light.
gscript: Giving orders linux with a click you want to do things like restart the application see longer eats a lot of space, the possibilities are endless
es file exporer: you can change the system files (dangerous not to try unless you know what you have) to put other icons or other boot animation, or a different shape battery tray bar displays etc.
These are some of the little you can do.

[Q] ?how to debloat, set CPU, increase battery life?

hey all, i apologize in advance because i am fairly new to the rooting world, let alone the smartphone realm (considering the DROID3 is my first smartphone ever) but i heard about roots, hacks and all the crazy stuff you can do with a rooted phone. so i thought id give it a try.. ive backed up all my files, at least i think so, with titanium backup. i am wondering is there a way to get rid of all that crappy bloatware without going in to the system files and reprogramming it? im a reasonably intelligent person. and im tired of painfully reading through the internet, (been up for 18 hours now) and i really just want to put it to rest. ive already rooted i really just need some help from here. thanks all, and i appreciate any comments, sarcastic or not

Welcome to XDA. The search button is your friend. All of your answers can be found in the first few threads that are stickied at the top of the Development Section.
For root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240130
Remove Bloat:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472
If you don't want to run the script in the link above to remove the bloatware, you can use Titanium Backup PRO to 'freeze' any bloatware apps that you don't want to use. The freeze feature is only available in the paid version.

thank you friend, i have recently come across gemini app manager it claims to be able to do the same things as titanium backup pro, do you have any experience with this app? i "froze" a couple of my apps and the next thing i know i cant text or view my contacts.. please help

Don't freeze random things which you're not sure what it does, or apps that sounds as if it part of the system framework or phone related.

Zoibster said:
thank you friend, i have recently come across gemini app manager it claims to be able to do the same things as titanium backup pro, do you have any experience with this app? i "froze" a couple of my apps and the next thing i know i cant text or view my contacts.. please help
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I have not used gemini app manager so I can't comment on the app.
As far as freezing goes - as mentioned, you have to be careful what you freeze. Freezing system apps can cause some things to not work properly.
Did you follow the link I listed for de-bloating earlier? If you download the .zip file and open it in a text editor it will show you all the apps that are frozen by the script and you can then use that list to freeze apps manually...

[Q] Apps safe to remove / debloat guide?

I didn't spot any thread around here covering the topic of debloating stock sony firmware. Not that it would be cluttered like other manufacturers firmware, but theres still room for improvement
Is there a guide somewhere or a list of all apk safe to disable/remove (provided root acces) on sony firmwares? Similar to a Samsung Galaxy S2 related guide here or another very exhaustive one here (<- preferred).

I'm from the X10i & the Arc forums, I use this as a guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
Good Luck
* If you want to delete a app by Root-Explorer, don't update it by Playstore first before removing it. (Facebook)
* Some apps can be removed by Settings - Apps etc.
Sent from my LT30p using xda Hotline

Well on tx stock, I got the following apps disabled. ;/
my phone is running fine. From start up to everyday use.

This all depends on what functions you use for the phone. Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is persona l preference on which apps you want to delete.
However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete and still keep your phone working as a phone. The best way I have found of doing this is not by following other peoples list but by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps and then test the phone to see if it still works the way I want it. Then I could delete the app. If I ost some functionality I would defrost the app and no harm is done.

gregbradley said:
This all depends on what functions you use for the phone. Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is persona l preference on which apps you want to delete.
However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete and still keep your phone working as a phone. The best way I have found of doing this is not by following other peoples list but by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps and then test the phone to see if it still works the way I want it. Then I could delete the app. If I ost some functionality I would defrost the app and no harm is done.
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What Greg says is right, but to add to it:
Apps that you can "disable" will not effect the functionality of the phone, you will just lose the function of the app in question.
Secondly, if you are using titanium back up to freeze system apps, and you are not sure what the app you are freezing does you might stop your system from working, so before you freeze anything you are unsure of, take a full backup first so you can restore it if your system becomes unstable.
Please post your results in this thread for others to learn from.
There is also a system app cleaner in flashtool, although I have not used it with the T yet.
Sent from my LT30p using xda app-developers app

gregbradley said:
Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is personal preference on which apps you want to delete. *snip* However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete
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As for the first part of your post, I'm fully aware of. In fact thats the reason why I'd like to have some of useless stuff removed (numerous FB clients/apps/agents for example) But thanks for putting it here as other users might not be aware of the possible issues.
The part in bold is of most interest to me. I'm totally not an Android novice, I know most crucial system packages. Derping around in relatively pure Android releases like AOSP and CM10 and reading the same package names over and over again gives a feel what is Android related and what is vendor specific. For Sammy/Touchwiz I know which package does what, but with Sony I'm new and dont know which files are safe to remove without breaking the system. Hence this thread.
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What Greg says is right, but to add to it: *snip*
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Of course same as above. I do not use TiB though, I use an app called System App Remover. I know TiB very vell of course, but then, who doesn't But again, I'm not interested in getting informations what removing or freezing apk's means in general, I'm interested in which are essential to Sonys UI and will break the system if removed.
I'll have a look at the link provided to the Arc/X10 forums.
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LitoNi said:
Well on tx stock, I got the following apps disabled. ;/
my phone is running fine. From start up to everyday use.
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Yesterday I found out that disabeling Setup Guide resulted in me losing all APN settings and the phone refused to (automatically) recreate them. They got recreated without any fuzz after enabeling the setup wizard and running it. I'll eventually try to recreate this as I fight with myself if this connected or if I coincidentally hit a time where my network decided to derp on me.

schaggo said:
Yesterday I found out that disabeling Setup Guide resulted in me losing all APN settings and the phone refused to (automatically) recreate them. They got recreated without any fuzz after enabeling the setup wizard and running it. I'll eventually try to recreate this as I fight with myself if this connected or if I coincidentally hit a time where my network decided to derp on me.
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not sure whats that got to do with it, Setup guide is one of the first apps i delte. Unless this an app from your carrier that loads the apn settings...mine are downloaded automatically from vodafone.

Deleting Amazon's preinstalled apps with CCleaner

Hello all, I'm a new user here and I have a question about my new amazon tablet. I know that you can't uninstall the annoying preinstalled apps through the OS alone. I know that rooting is an option, but I'd rather wait because I just got this tablet and it'd suck if I bricked it already. There's an app that I downloaded called CCleaner, and I went to an app management option in this app and it lists the preinstalled as system apps, and gives the option to uninstall them. I just want to know if it's safe too do so, that it won't brick/implode my device or make it so I can't access Amazon's features. I can send a pic of the app for reference, thanking people in advance

Neko64 said:
Hello all, I'm a new user here and I have a question about my new amazon tablet. I know that you can't uninstall the annoying preinstalled apps through the OS alone. I know that rooting is an option, but I'd rather wait because I just got this tablet and it'd suck if I bricked it already. There's an app that I downloaded called CCleaner, and I went to an app management option in this app and it lists the preinstalled as system apps, and gives the option to uninstall them. I just want to know if it's safe too do so, that it won't brick/implode my device or make it so I can't access Amazon's features. I can send a pic of the app for reference, thanking people in advance
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CCleaner is a good app. Although is says uninstall most likely it will simply disable system apps on an unrooted device as it doesn't have permissions to uninstall. Start with something benign like the Kindle app. Then move on from there, one app at a time. Good luck.

Dealing with Amazon Prime

Hi,
I have a Fire 7 that I downgraded to 54.0 and debloated and therefore I lost the Amazon Prime Video App which I would lilke to have, so I proably do a factory-reset and go through the process again - but this time try to do it in a way that I'll still have App.
I have been using the procedure outlined in another thread that debloats by running "adb uninstall -k" over the packages.
The "-k" switch keeps the cache and data-directories around and I believe this is what prevents the app from reinstalling.
So my first question is: Why is it done this way? Not using the -k-switch would as far as I understand it also get rid of these directories so in theory if I would uninstall the Video App without this switch I could then later re-install it via the Google-Playstore (that I've put on), right?
Another way would be not to uninstall it at all and simply keep it but then I would also need to keep the Amazon Appstore around so I could later update it. Or would I need to keep even more apps for the Video-app to function properly?
I assume it would be quite possible to have both the Amazon-Appstore and Google Playstore on one device (at the moment I also have Playstore and F-Droid) or would that run into some problem?
If both options (keeping the app or deleting it and reinstalling it via the Playstore) would be viable, which one would you prefer?
Many thanks!

morgonhed said:
Hi,
I have a Fire 7 that I downgraded to 54.0 and debloated and therefore I lost the Amazon Prime Video App which I would lilke to have, so I proably do a factory-reset and go through the process again - but this time try to do it in a way that I'll still have App.
I have been using the procedure outlined in another thread that debloats by running "adb uninstall -k" over the packages.
The "-k" switch keeps the cache and data-directories around and I believe this is what prevents the app from reinstalling.
So my first question is: Why is it done this way? Not using the -k-switch would as far as I understand it also get rid of these directories so in theory if I would uninstall the Video App without this switch I could then later re-install it via the Google-Playstore (that I've put on), right?
Another way would be not to uninstall it at all and simply keep it but then I would also need to keep the Amazon Appstore around so I could later update it. Or would I need to keep even more apps for the Video-app to function properly?
I assume it would be quite possible to have both the Amazon-Appstore and Google Playstore on one device (at the moment I also have Playstore and F-Droid) or would that run into some problem?
If both options (keeping the app or deleting it and reinstalling it via the Playstore) would be viable, which one would you prefer?
Many thanks!
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If you target a privileged app/component on an unrooted ROM you will not be able to reinstall the same item (package ID) sans factory reset or other means of writing to the system partition. Do yourself a favor and focus on the handful of apps that account for the majority of unwanted behavior and leave the rest alone.

Davey126 said:
If you target a privileged app/component on an unrooted ROM you will not be able to reinstall the same item (package ID) sans factory reset or other means of writing to the system partition. Do yourself a favor and focus on the handful of apps that account for the majority of unwanted behavior and leave the rest alone.
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The thing is, the Amazon Video and Appstore apps are part of that handful, as battery monitoring and packet capturing apps prove. On registered devices, both are constantly running in the background, eating up precious RAM and battery, and sending data back to Amazon.

lakitu47 said:
The thing is, the Amazon Video and Appstore apps are part of that handful, as battery monitoring and packet capturing apps prove. On registered devices, both are constantly running in the background, eating up precious RAM and battery, and sending data back to Amazon.
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Correct. As are equivalent Google components on standard (non-Amazon) devices rocking vendor tweaked Android. Everyone has to find their personal Zen when it comes to managing their electronic devices. Amazon is heavy handed which I why I only utilize their hardware if it is capable of hosting an alternative ROM (eg: 2nd gen HD, 3rd gen HDX, early 5th gen Fire). Ultimate goal is to maximize use and minimize maintenance. Which is why I recommended a lite touch when going after Amazon apps/services via 'adb uninstall'. Make a mistake and you have to start all over. Ugh.

Thanks for the response.
I did some experiments and indeed, even if you delete the Prime-App without "-k" you are not able to reinstall it from the playstore.
So in the end I kept a few preinstalled apps (Prime, Shopping-app, Appstore) and deleted the rest without "-k".
I now have Amazon Appstore (that I only kept so I could later update the Prime-App), Google Playstore and F-Droid on one device without problems.