Hey guys, I'm thinking of compiling a CM ROM from source next month (have to wait for data cap to reset) and was wondering what you guys would prefer, a significantly more stable CM9, or a more buggy (and more headaches for me) CM10 ROM? I personally would prefer to do a CM9 ROM since it would be easier to support and fix bugs on, since we already have relatively stable, working builds of AOSP ICS. CM10 would be great as well, but it would be much harder for me to support, since I would be the second dev for the Inc S to build a JB ROM from source for us. I just don't think I have the know-how to be the only one working on it, and the only one fixing bugs and whatnot, without any already working source code to view and compare.
So I could compile CM9.2 stable, and we would have the latest CM9 code using kaijura's IceColdSandwich as a reference. I would have an easier time supporting the ICS ROM since I would have working source code to compare and review. Also, it would be significantly more stable simply due to the fact that multiple devs for our device have already worked on it. I'm sure I'd be able to fix bugs and support it fairly easily, other devs are the best resource around
Or I could compile a CM10 ROM. I would have to take device proprietary files from nik's JB ROM's, which would mean my compiled ROM would share a lot of the same bugs our current JB ROM's already have. I could support and fix bugs in CM10, it would just take longer and be harder to do. Nothing's impossible though, so if that's what the community wants, then that's what I'll build!
So what do you guys think? CM10 or CM9?
It's your time and effort you do what Rom you want to do. Any Rom would be great!
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vizzy said:
It's your time and effort you do what Rom you want to do. Any Rom would be great!
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I'm torn between the two! On the one hand, I want a stable ROM which would be CM9, but I also love that JellyBean goodness. I've also seen some people here that simply want a stable CM9 that's up to date, and other's that want the latest CM10 despite bugs. That's the point of this thread
I would tell u is that first for cm9 when we get a stable awesome cm9 for sure it will be easy to get a cm10... btw are u going to build a kernel?
My vote goes towards CM9! been using codename for the past couple months and although i'm enjoying all the new features, i still find myself yearning for a rock solid & stable ASOP based build.
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linezero said:
I would tell u is that first for cm9 when we get a stable awesome cm9 for sure it will be easy to get a cm10... btw are u going to build a kernel?
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I could give it a try, but if nik and others couldn't get a 3.0 kernel up and running for AOSP, then I'll have a damn hard time. I'd prefer to have someone else make the new kernel, I don't know much about compiling them. Till then, I would just use X-ICS4.0 for the kernel.
Make a CM9, CM10 would have in the end too much bugs and they would just chance again. I'm waiting for a stable cm9 anyway
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Kernel 3, Cm10 got my vote
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ZaySk said:
Hey guys, I'm thinking of compiling a CM ROM from source next month (have to wait for data cap to reset) and was wondering what you guys would prefer, a significantly more stable CM9, or a more buggy (and more headaches for me) CM10 ROM? I personally would prefer to do a CM9 ROM since it would be easier to support and fix bugs on, since we already have relatively stable, working builds of AOSP ICS. CM10 would be great as well, but it would be much harder for me to support, since I would be the second dev for the Inc S to build a JB ROM from source for us. I just don't think I have the know-how to be the only one working on it, and the only one fixing bugs and whatnot, without any already working source code to view and compare.
So I could compile CM9.2 stable, and we would have the latest CM9 code using kaijura's IceColdSandwich as a reference. I would have an easier time supporting the ICS ROM since I would have working source code to compare and review. Also, it would be significantly more stable simply due to the fact that multiple devs for our device have already worked on it. I'm sure I'd be able to fix bugs and support it fairly easily, other devs are the best resource around
Or I could compile a CM10 ROM. I would have to take device proprietary files from nik's JB ROM's, which would mean my compiled ROM would share a lot of the same bugs our current JB ROM's already have. I could support and fix bugs in CM10, it would just take longer and be harder to do. Nothing's impossible though, so if that's what the community wants, then that's what I'll build!
So what do you guys think? CM10 or CM9?
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cm9 bro! because ics kernel source is out and bugs can be fixed!
Yeah. CM9 would be OK for me too. I can help with testing if needed.
But what would be those great JB features we would be missing out? Sry I haven't been following the differences between 4.0 and 4.1.
IncS community is desperate for at least one fully functional, bugless AOSP ROM, so my vote goes for CM9
CM9 bro..wishing for bugless one.. gud luck..
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My 2 cents.
CM9. Kernel sources for ICS has been release by HTC and ANY AOSP rom that is stable would be very welcome in our community.
(I know there is gingerbread roms.. But.. Its ginger bread..)
Jelly Bean is nice and all,
But the odds of getting a stable AOSP rom are much higher with cm9.
CM9 I would say. I hope you can fix data problems for Vodafone NL users. We always have problems with data connection on AOSP ROMs.
CM9 would be great....!!
Its great to see devs are enthusiasticaly working on Roms..!!
You are the one dude...
Jst for info u might already aware of
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914015
CM10 test build
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my vote a CM9 ASOP rom and bugless
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cm9 bro! because ics kernel source is out and bugs can be fixed!
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Totally agree. I don't like much sense ROMs, CM9 with working camera and camcorder would be perfect!
Thanks ZaySk
CM9!!!!
ZaySk said:
Hey guys, I'm thinking of compiling a CM ROM from source next month (have to wait for data cap to reset) and was wondering what you guys would prefer, a significantly more stable CM9, or a more buggy (and more headaches for me) CM10 ROM? I personally would prefer to do a CM9 ROM since it would be easier to support and fix bugs on, since we already have relatively stable, working builds of AOSP ICS. CM10 would be great as well, but it would be much harder for me to support, since I would be the second dev for the Inc S to build a JB ROM from source for us. I just don't think I have the know-how to be the only one working on it, and the only one fixing bugs and whatnot, without any already working source code to view and compare.
So I could compile CM9.2 stable, and we would have the latest CM9 code using kaijura's IceColdSandwich as a reference. I would have an easier time supporting the ICS ROM since I would have working source code to compare and review. Also, it would be significantly more stable simply due to the fact that multiple devs for our device have already worked on it. I'm sure I'd be able to fix bugs and support it fairly easily, other devs are the best resource around
Or I could compile a CM10 ROM. I would have to take device proprietary files from nik's JB ROM's, which would mean my compiled ROM would share a lot of the same bugs our current JB ROM's already have. I could support and fix bugs in CM10, it would just take longer and be harder to do. Nothing's impossible though, so if that's what the community wants, then that's what I'll build!
So what do you guys think? CM10 or CM9?
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My request would be neither CM9 nor CM 10.... it will be great if you can work on Kernel Version 3.... Becz that is the only roadblock for us for Jelly Bean and would open doors for may developers to come up with fresh and exciting jelly bean ROMs.....Why stay behind the world guys... lets target Jelly bean step by step.....who knows if you start working on kernel it may really turn out to be good.....Try for kernel bro......all the best.. try to compile it from source....
A rock solid cm9 would be great!
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i hope all the bugs are fix the develop. i know its to hard to develop..
thnx to many developer...hooray.
Just flash the latest aokp rom its genius and i dont have any issues with it, its working even faster than the stock rom on my double speeded gt-p6200... have fun. By the way, there will never be a final ics on custom roms, there is always an idea to make it better ;-)
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i hope all the bugs are fix the develop. i know its to hard to develop..
thnx to many developer...hooray.
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There is no such thing as 'bug free' buld that is why we always have new versions(builds) untill the dev team decides to move on to something new. Therefore I would imagine there won't be 'Final' ICS untill Android 5 (Jellybean) available and the dev team decides to move on to Jellybean (assuming many of us still sticking to our G-tab 7 and plenty developers still willing to crack one for us.)
However the latest builds of ICS are very stable and suitable for daily use.
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There is no such thing as 'bug free' buld that is why we always have new versions(builds) untill the dev team decides to move on to something new. Therefore I would imagine there won't be 'Final' ICS untill Android 5 (Jellybean) available and the dev team decides to move on to Jellybean (assuming many of us still sticking to our G-tab 7 and plenty developers still willing to crack one for us.)
However the latest builds of ICS are very stable and suitable for daily use.
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You right, i'm using AOKP for my daily use. 3G,wifi, active sync exchange, dropbox all of them working smoothly only usb tethering not working in milestone #5 but overall great rom...
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Hello
I am trying to flash an stable ICS rom for my brothers phone but I really can't find anyone without major bugs. CM9 = to much bugs, Nyx RC 5.0 is just pure ****, Slim ICS (what the **** is wrong with the font?) So can someone recommend me a nice and clean ICS rom that is stable enough for daily use?
I just installed CM9 today and it works pretty good despite the camera and the radio (and now there are alternatives to avoid those bugs too).
eyriiii said:
Hello
I am trying to flash an stable ICS rom for my brothers phone but I really can't find anyone without major bugs. CM9 = to much bugs, Nyx RC 5.0 is just pure ****, Slim ICS (what the **** is wrong with the font?) So can someone recommend me a nice and clean ICS rom that is stable enough for daily use?
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CM9 is sluggish as hell so I wouldn't recommend that either. However I don't really understand your font issue with Slim ICS. It does only have 5 system languages but you can install additional fonts to display languages via the "Updater" app included.
In your case as you've eliminated Slim ICS, I guess ICS333 (Team 3xtr3m3) is probably the best one out there. AOSP based with toggles from AOKP and offers a good balance between performance and battery life, with no bugs I can really tell.
Team-Nyx (RC5) yet the most stable rom for me on ics and its pure AOSP
http://team-nyx.com/
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CM9 is sluggish as hell so I wouldn't recommend that either. However I don't really understand your font issue with Slim ICS. It does only have 5 system languages but you can install additional fonts to display languages via the "Updater" app included.
In your case as you've eliminated Slim ICS, I guess ICS333 (Team 3xtr3m3) is probably the best one out there. AOSP based with toggles from AOKP and offers a good balance between performance and battery life, with no bugs I can really tell.
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Actually I find cm9 to be the fastest. I've gotten the highest benchmarks compared to slim ics, aokp, etc. Plus I have a bit more trust on cyanogenmod than aokp. Team nyx is pure ics stock but its really slow. Cm9 all the way for me always.
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INFINITUM LBR is the most stable ICS from that I have come across. Unfortunately, the development of this from has been discontinued.
Gummy is another rom which is quite stable. Have been using it for over a month now without any issues.
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Use tiger rom it is one of the best and stable rom ...has a good battery life..
Hit the thanks button if i helped you .
GT-I9000
Team Nyx RC5.
Semaphore 1.2.2.s
AUCKF1 Modem.
Hope this will help you make a decision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699154
Hi !
Unfortunately, though ICS is extremely good the Custom ICS has it's quirks !
This is because they are developed without source codes from Samsung and no matter how good they are, at a certain point they show their lack of support which they never received from the manufacturer in the first place and therefore after a few days ( or if lucky, weeks) things don't work properly and needs reboots frequently.
Having ICS is like having a short love affair.
Use Gingerbread or change phones.
Sad fact, but true.
Look at the custom ICS camera and look at the original ICS camera. Do you think that we are going to get all the goodies in the SGS ?
Similarly, there are many great features of ICS which the developers cannot give us.
Time to move on.
Take care.
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Hello the most stable ROM was RC4.2 with semaphore 1.1.1
Now I am on RC5 from Team Nyx. It's stable. The only thing that doesn't work is YouTube. Flashing another kernel from Devil (2_0.94) will help.
eyriiii said:
Hello
I am trying to flash an stable ICS rom for my brothers phone but I really can't find anyone without major bugs. CM9 = to much bugs, Nyx RC 5.0 is just pure ****, Slim ICS (what the **** is wrong with the font?) So can someone recommend me a nice and clean ICS rom that is stable enough for daily use?
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i'm using tiger_aokp_b37_holo_v2.0_by_ktheoriginal and its fast stable and easy on the eye
sammyservices said:
Hi !
Unfortunately, though ICS is extremely good the Custom ICS has it's quirks !
This is because they are developed without source codes from Samsung and no matter how good they are, at a certain point they show their lack of support which they never received from the manufacturer in the first place and therefore after a few days ( or if lucky, weeks) things don't work properly and needs reboots frequently.
Having ICS is like having a short love affair.
Use Gingerbread or change phones.
Sad fact, but true.
Look at the custom ICS camera and look at the original ICS camera. Do you think that we are going to get all the goodies in the SGS ?
Similarly, there are many great features of ICS which the developers cannot give us.
Time to move on.
Take care.
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Hi.
Can you please stop posting these opinions as facts, when the "problems" can easily be fixed. This is a development forum, at least it used to be, and you cannot expect everything to work right out of the box like official stock firmware (even though it does most of the time). It's not like you've been scammed by a car salesman selling you a car without an engine.
No offense intended, but please stop it.
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My apologies.
U r correct . In fact, perhaps I might go back to ICS again cause in reality, Gingerbread is not user friendly....there I go again...
Regards.
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I use ICS333. Fast, Stable and good battery life.
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TIGER-AOKP-B37-HOLO-v2.0
i have tried almost all of ics roms but always got back to Elite roms for the stability,smoothnes and battery life
Rom: Elite RC v1.3
Kernel: midnight 202L
Launcher: Apex Launcher with sense4.0 dock
Theme:Sense 4.0 for EliteRom
I can highly recommend ICS333 2.0.1 with Semaphore kernel. Perfectly stable, not one reboot so far. It's fast, simple and works well in every way.
It's all just opinions, try them out
eyriiii said:
Hello
I am trying to flash an stable ICS rom for my brothers phone but I really can't find anyone without major bugs. CM9 = to much bugs, Nyx RC 5.0 is just pure ****, Slim ICS (what the **** is wrong with the font?) So can someone recommend me a nice and clean ICS rom that is stable enough for daily use?
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Everybody has his own taste, some people like AOSP, some people like AOKP, some people like CM9 while some people like slim ROM regardless with few bugs ... also there are people here in this forum (like you) who install ROMs incorrectly n find it **** (yes i am pointing to Team Nyx's ROM). When you have tried some of the ROMs, why don't you try all of the ROMs?
p.s. Team Nyx's AOSP is the only ICS ROM I found stable and less battery consuming after slim, this is only my point of view.
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I believe Tiger rom is very stable and very nice!!
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The Jelly Bean ROM's are great, but for me there's just too many bugs.
We have the ICS source now and I'd love a stable CM9 build. Unfortunately it looks like attn1 may have moved on, and all the other devs seem to be just working on JB.
Dude your not alone...count me in for that...if i knw step by step guide to at least to compile an AOSP kernel I would do it now
i ll waiting too but however stable cm9 or cm 10 doesnt exisit by now
Be patient
No I'm waiting for CM9 o CM10 too for a valid porting of MIUI
Everyone is waiting for CM9 but we need a kernel to get everything working propably! Our devs are working on it but they have a life, too. Don't expect sb to do a one-man Jesus show here;D Be patient, we will get fully working CM9 when kernel boots up
And in the future you can post stuff like this in our famous OFF-Topic-thread Keeps the G-Sec clean
Raithmir said:
The Jelly Bean ROM's are great, but for me there's just too many bugs.
We have the ICS source now and I'd love a stable CM9 build. Unfortunately it looks like attn1 may have moved on, and all the other devs seem to be just working on JB.
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It doesn't really matter much which ROM to make - ICS based or JB based CM. Because to make a proper and stable ROM, all you need is to make a stable AOSP\AOKP compatible kernel (and we still don't have one).
PS: AFAIK CM team wont add CM9 support for any more devices, i.e. if they will make a CM for our IncS it will be JB based CM10 and not CM9.
I thought that once we had sources, the kernel would be pretty easy, but then I don't know much about it. Who is working on the kernel?
I also thought that CM would only support a phone if source was available. Since we only have ICS source right now, that would rule out CM10 wouldn't it?
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I thought that once we had sources, the kernel would be pretty easy, but then I don't know much about it. Who is working on the kernel?
I also thought that CM would only support a phone if source was available. Since we only have ICS source right now, that would rule out CM10 wouldn't it?
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Many of the CM10 ROMs don't have manufacturer source for JB (only ICS) therefore it is safe to assume that our ICS kernel can be used with CM10.
If we want official support we need a maintainer
The maintainer for the 7x30 HTC devices like ours, dhd, desire s etc
Our maintainer, Kali- moved on to Sony devices iirc
If we ask nexx and nk111 (cm devs from desire s) nicely maybe they might build for us
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I understand that attn1 is still our maintainer.
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I understand that attn1 is still our maintainer.
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Orly? Anyone heard from him/her?
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I sent him a tweet some time ago after he bought S3 and I wrote something like this: "So you're not the maintainer for IncS anymore". And he replied "What makes you think that" . He still owns a vivo and a vivos.
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weaselEST said:
I sent him a tweet some time ago after he bought S3 and I wrote something like this: "So you're not the maintainer for IncS anymore". And he replied "What makes you think that" . He still owns a vivo and a vivos.
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That's good, hopefully he can compile CM10 soon and bring official support for CM9/10
I would be very grateful of that
I really want CM9 without any bug. Even now im usin CM7! i didt find any ICS AOSP rom. So im thinking about change my phone
Plz coock it...
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I've been using Codename ever since it came out but I got tired of the problems related to the Kernel and switched to ProjectX. I and I'm sure others really want to use a smooth and working JB ROM.
Is there anyone working on the 3.0 Kernel for our device? I know Nik said he contacted someone to help us out but there's been no news on that front yet.
If anyone knows how to modify Kernels, Adi_pat gave some tips here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
He'll probably help us out if we make some progress in booting up Codename with it at least
TheDareDevil said:
I've been using Codename ever since it came out but I got tired of the problems related to the Kernel and switched to ProjectX. I and I'm sure others really want to use a smooth and working JB ROM.
Is there anyone working on the 3.0 Kernel for our device? I know Nik said he contacted someone to help us out but there's been no news on that front yet.
If anyone knows how to modify Kernels, Adi_pat gave some tips here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899335&page=38
He'll probably help us out if we make some progress in booting up Codename with it at least
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Upon the exit of JB roms ago, were used GB modified kernel, now with source code maybe will be possible to compile a fully working kernel, but afaik there are no 3.x kernel for JB, maybe someone is working out of xda on irc channel but don't known..
Sadly I do not have much competence, plus I don't have the phone it's to repair....
There is kernel 3 for incredible 2 and desire s..may be someone can port it..
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I might be crazy, but I remember reading a post not too long ago about a dev that was writing the 3.0 kernel from source for our phones. I haven't heard an update since then, but I remember hearing it was someone with relation to the cm9 team. It sounded promising, but that development was very slow.
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TheMegosh said:
I might be crazy, but I remember reading a post not too long ago about a dev that was writing the 3.0 kernel from source for our phones. I haven't heard an update since then, but I remember hearing it was someone with relation to the cm9 team. It sounded promising, but that development was very slow.
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Off the top of my head I seem to recall Noverbose saying he was trying to write a 3.0 Kernel. I also remember at least one other person mentioning something similar to, so there are people working on this. From what I understand it's not easy - I doubt we'll see anything this side of Christmas tbh. I hadn't realised that the Inc 2 and DS had a 3.0 Kernel though. Anyone know if they are actually a made from source version, rather than the same hacked version that we have in Codename, for example?
Well tbh honest a working GB kernel would do too.
Like the front camera and chrome and screen flickering etc.
Damn I wish kaijura was here
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Off the top of my head I seem to recall Noverbose saying he was trying to write a 3.0 Kernel. I also remember at least one other person mentioning something similar to, so there are people working on this. From what I understand it's not easy - I doubt we'll see anything this side of Christmas tbh. I hadn't realised that the Inc 2 and DS had a 3.0 Kernel though. Anyone know if they are actually a made from source version, rather than the same hacked version that we have in Codename, for example?
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Yes those 3.0 kernels are compiled from source. I checked out AOSP ROM threads in the Desire S and Inc 2 section that had 3.0 kernel, then looked up the creator of the ROM on github and found the sources. I was going to try tackle the 3.0 kernel to get a hang of the make system before building CM9, but I don't have enough monthly data left to download the kernel toolchain! Nov 1st is close, so I can get to work soon! :highfive:
The best way to build an AOSP 3.0 kernel for our device would probably be to look at the source code for 3.0 kernels on our sister devices, and figure it out from there.
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Yes those 3.0 kernels are compiled from source. I checked out AOSP ROM threads in the Desire S and Inc 2 section that had 3.0 kernel, then looked up the creator of the ROM on github and found the sources. I was going to try tackle the 3.0 kernel to get a hang of the make system before building CM9, but I don't have enough monthly data left to download the kernel toolchain! Nov 1st is close, so I can get to work soon! :highfive:
The best way to build an AOSP 3.0 kernel for our device would probably be to look at the source code for 3.0 kernels on our sister devices, and figure it out from there.
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Well holy crap, dude, get on that! Seriously though, getting a working 3.0 kernel for our device would go a long way to making JB a usable ROM for our device. Would it be possible to port JellyTime or a similar JB ROM to our device as well?
The source doesn't need changing, it is the ramdisk that is the problem. I have been trying to get help, but so far no luck, adi_pat said he would take a look, but it is hard for me to test as I no longer have an inc s
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Well holy crap, dude, get on that! Seriously though, getting a working 3.0 kernel for our device would go a long way to making JB a usable ROM for our device. Would it be possible to port JellyTime or a similar JB ROM to our device as well?
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I'm gonna worry mainly about compiling CM9 from source once November hits, that's gonna take up the majority of my time. After I get the first release of CM9 out, I'll start work on a 3.0 kernel if it hasn't been done yet. I have no experience whatsoever dealing with kernels though, except for small ramdisk edits, so don't expect any miracles.
It should be possible to port other JB ROM's over using one of nik's ported JB ROM's as a base and reference point, the only problem is I don't know exactly what files I have to substitute to port a ROM. I've PM'd nik about that a few hours ago, so hopefully I'll get some more information on the subject. Nik has been a big help to my dev efforts as a whole.
l0st.prophet said:
The source doesn't need changing, it is the ramdisk that is the problem. I have been trying to get help, but so far no luck, adi_pat said he would take a look, but it is hard for me to test as I no longer have an inc s
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Interesting, if it's only the ramdisk that needs changing, couldn't you look at the ramdisk from one of niks JB ROM's? Or is it not as simple as that? I'm assuming the latter, seeing as if it were that obvious I'm sure someone would've done it by now. If you ever need help testing, send me a PM I'd be more than willing to test for you.
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I'm gonna worry mainly about compiling CM9 from source once November hits, that's gonna take up the majority of my time. After I get the first release of CM9 out, I'll start work on a 3.0 kernel if it hasn't been done yet. I have no experience whatsoever dealing with kernels though, except for small ramdisk edits, so don't expect any miracles.
It should be possible to port other JB ROM's over using one of nik's ported JB ROM's as a base and reference point, the only problem is I don't know exactly what files I have to substitute to port a ROM. I've PM'd nik about that a few hours ago, so hopefully I'll get some more information on the subject. Nik has been a big help to my dev efforts as a whole.
Interesting, if it's only the ramdisk that needs changing, couldn't you look at the ramdisk from one of niks JB ROM's? Or is it not as simple as that? I'm assuming the latter, seeing as if it were that obvious I'm sure someone would've done it by now. If you ever need help testing, send me a PM I'd be more than willing to test for you.
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About using one of Nik's JB roms as a reference
What I understood was that the rom has been built around the old 2.6.x kernel and has to be modified again to work with the 3.0.x kernel, if you guys get one up and running. If that is the case, wouldn't you be going down the wrong path if you model it around nik's existing 2.6.x roms?
We need kaijura here, he was our AOSP kernel master. Hopefully he is doing ok, and has found something else other than xda because he hasn't been online for months. At least other devs, like lordclokan and kali- have moved on and are active with other devices... kaijura hasn't been on at all. Anyone been in contact with him/her?
markj338 said:
About using one of Nik's JB roms as a reference
What I understood was that the rom has been built around the old 2.6.x kernel and has to be modified again to work with the 3.0.x kernel, if you guys get one up and running. If that is the case, wouldn't you be going down the wrong path if you model it around nik's existing 2.6.x roms?
We need kaijura here, he was our AOSP kernel master. Hopefully he is doing ok, and has found something else other than xda because he hasn't been online for months. At least other devs, like lordclokan and kali- have moved on and are active with other devices... kaijura hasn't been on at all. Anyone been in contact with him/her?
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I know, it would be going down a pretty redundant path. If I was able to port over a JB ROM using nik's ROM's as a base, then my ported ROM would inherit all the same bugs nik's ROM's already have.
I wish kaijura was still around, I have so many questions I want to ask about compiling from source! Luckily lordclokan was a massive help to me in that regard. Kaijura's github hasn't seen action in months either, sadly.
Forgive my ignorance, but isn't the Desire HD essentially our device with a bigger screen and less memory? That being the case, could we not just port across one of the 3.0 Kernels from that?
The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.
The only problem with the desire HD kernel would be that our front camera would not work
+ I forgot to link to adi_pat's post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
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l0st.prophet said:
The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.
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Well you can prolly get ideas from adi ( he posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33302707&postcount=387 not sure if you saw it) he seems to know what's up.
TheDareDevil said:
The only problem with the desire HD kernel would be that our front camera would not work
+ I forgot to link to adi_pat's post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
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So it looks like the furthest things got regarding a 3.0 Kernel was;
Adi_Pat said:
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Ok so 2.6.35 works with Jellybean. Why not pack the ramdisk with zImage compiled from 3.0.y sources(Considering you are using standard boot.img format[?]) Because to get it to boot, you would not require any hacks/changes to source, editing ramdisk(init.rc) is enough to make it boot initally.
EDIT: You may also need to change init binary.
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l0st.prophet said:
The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.
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Very interesting, thanks for the informative post. :good:
zaysk said:
very interesting, thanks for the informative post. :good:
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happy november!!!
markj338 said:
happy november!!!
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A very happy November indeed
Hi everyone in this forum,
Just a quick question, a friend of mine owns a SGS+ I9001 and he's running stock rom, I wanted to install a custom rom for him, (I know I'm not supposed to ask these kind of questions) which rom do you recommend me, it needs to be as stable, fast and battery friendly as possible, I hope you could help me, thank you very much before hand!
Have a nice one!
thecrab93 said:
Hi everyone in this forum,
Just a quick question, a friend of mine owns a SGS+ I9001 and he's running stock rom, I wanted to install a custom rom for him, (I know I'm not supposed to ask these kind of questions) which rom do you recommend me, it needs to be as stable, fast and battery friendly as possible, I hope you could help me, thank you very much before hand!
Have a nice one!
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All CM9 based roms are stable. Also the CM10 based roms are stable but they might have some bugs.
temeritas said:
All CM9 based roms are stable. Also the CM10 based roms are stable but they might have some bugs.
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Thank you very much, do you recommend me any in particular and if so, why? Thanks again.
thecrab93 said:
Thank you very much, do you recommend me any in particular and if so, why? Thanks again.
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I'm using Ivendor's CM10 alpha 6 now. It works very well. But you should read in the SGS+ section what rom is the best for yourself. For myself Ivendor's CM10 is the best because I have now JB working on my phone like on a nexus device.
I agree that ivendor's Kernel are one of the most snappier ever so far.
Thank you guys, thank you very much, just another question, is ivendors CM10 stable enough for a person that knows very little about android to use as a daily driver? Thanks again!
thecrab93 said:
Thank you guys, thank you very much, just another question, is ivendors CM10 stable enough for a person that knows very little about android to use as a daily driver? Thanks again!
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NO, it's not perfectly stable, because it's an ALPHA release, however most of us use it as a daily ROM. One or two random reboots in one month, some minor freezes - I think it's worth it, the performance is outstanding, especially with some 3.x.x. kernels. Anyway, wait for RC version, if you want stock rom - like stability.
You could also try one of the CM9 releases. They've been around longer and are probably more stable than the CM10 ones.
I'm using arco's release (can be found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650615) which has only very few quirks left. The only ones I run into sometimes are a problem with the compass (something strange is going on with the magnetic field sensor) and GMail / Facebook occasionally display only a white screen (which can be fixed by killing and restarting the app) (which can be mapped onto long-pressing the back button).
There's also ivendor's release, which has some other fixes but hasn't been updated for quite some time. There's also a number of remixes, an AOSP release by broodplank, AOKP, and MIUI.
Basicly, there's a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901212
The JB's are bound to have some bugs, don't flash them if you don't plan on updating as well. ICS is probably rather stable and most GB releases are probably stable as well.
Fastest: probably AOSP (so brood's release) and JB (project butter and all)
Most battery-friendly: GB
Stable: anything but JB
temeritas said:
I'm using Ivendor's CM10 alpha 6 now. It works very well. But you should read in the SGS+ section what rom is the best for yourself. For myself Ivendor's CM10 is the best because I have now JB working on my phone like on a nexus device.
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Mikroos said:
I agree that ivendor's Kernel are one of the most snappier ever so far.
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Jacol82 said:
NO, it's not perfectly stable, because it's an ALPHA release, however most of us use it as a daily ROM. One or two random reboots in one month, some minor freezes - I think it's worth it, the performance is outstanding, especially with some 3.x.x. kernels. Anyway, wait for RC version, if you want stock rom - like stability.
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Marshian said:
You could also try one of the CM9 releases. They've been around longer and are probably more stable than the CM10 ones.
I'm using arco's release (can be found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650615) which has only very few quirks left. The only ones I run into sometimes are a problem with the compass (something strange is going on with the magnetic field sensor) and GMail / Facebook occasionally display only a white screen (which can be fixed by killing and restarting the app) (which can be mapped onto long-pressing the back button).
There's also ivendor's release, which has some other fixes but hasn't been updated for quite some time. There's also a number of remixes, an AOSP release by broodplank, AOKP, and MIUI.
Basicly, there's a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901212
The JB's are bound to have some bugs, don't flash them if you don't plan on updating as well. ICS is probably rather stable and most GB releases are probably stable as well.
Fastest: probably AOSP (so brood's release) and JB (project butter and all)
Most battery-friendly: GB
Stable: anything but JB
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Ok guys, thanks so much, I think I'll stick with arco's cm9 release so my friend can try it for a while and see if it's ok, thanks again