Diffrences Between T TL and TX!!! and V... - Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V
Ok so many many many people have been keep on asking this so im going to answer it...
TX - For Asian Markets only , it has a thinner lighter more arc like design , has a glowing logo , but has 1700MAh battery , although its removeable!
TL- For US At&T Carrier , Has LTE , Its like the Xperia T - Bluetooth 4 because has lte enabled s4 chip like the v + also for Canada also has a metal back! and a diffrenter back design to make way for metal
T- For Most European Countries..
GX = LTE enabled hayabusa variant of the TX for the Japanese market.
AX = NTT Docomo variant of the V. It DOES OF COURSE support LTE plus is waterproof, dustproof, has 1-seg TV, and infrared communication.
VL = AU by KDDI variant of the V. It ALSO supports LTE but it's ONLY for that particular carrier therefore is CDMA2000 compatible.
They are both Japanese domestic market versions of the Xperia V that are waterproof, dustproof, have 1-seg TV, and infrared communication.
They are also Sony FeliCa compatible but compatibility with other types of NFC are not guaranteed.
AX reported uses a mini uSIM while the VL reportedly uses a micro UIM.
The AX is rated to support 4G FDD-LTE at 100Mbps down and 37.5Mbps up plus 14Mbps down/5.7Mbps up HSPA.
The VL is reported to support 3.9G FDD-LTE at 75Mbps down/25Mbps up and 9.2Mbps down/5.5 Mbps up.
The difference is most likely due to the AX being on NTT Docomo's slightly more mature FDD-LTE network and the VL being on AU by KDDI's FDD-LTE network.
The big differences are in the bands they support but they BOTH support LTE.
Xperia AX on NTT Docomo:
W-CDMA/UMTS 800/850/1700/2100 + 1500 when on LTE which runs on 2100/1500/800 (bands 1/11/18)
2G is can roam on GSM850/900/1800/1900 plus roaming on Edge
Xperia VL on AU by KDDI (which keep in mind runs CDMA2000 3G on bands different from other places):
CDMA2000 1xMC 800/2000 for voice and CDMA2000 1xEV-DO RevA for Data
FDD-LTE 800/1500 (Bands 18/11) for 4G Data
Roaming on WCDMA on 850/2000
Roaming on GSM on 190/1800/900
AX and VL variants are both Japanese market specific variants of the V with market specific features like TV, Infrared, etc.
The difference between the devices are the uSIM sizes and the networks/bands they support
AX - Non LTE Japanese DoComo Version
LT25c or a.k.a V - For chinese markers , has a diffrent design like the vl
Here ive answerd your questions... if any more post here..
You can also look at Specifications compared – Xperia T/TX vs. Xperia V vs. Xperia J from Xperia Blog
Is this forum going to account for all versions?
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There's one thing I don't understand ...
The Qualcomm SnapDragon S4Plus SoC has BT 4.0 integrated according to the specs available on Qualcomm's website (link).
So why aren't the Xperia based on this SoC (like the MSM8260A in Xperia T) BT 4.0 ? Everywhere, it's said that Xperia T is BT 3.1.
Is it some kind of Sony mistake in the specs given ? Did they fail to implement it ?
Thanks for any answer.
Nickola
made changes , the xperia tl has bluetooth 4 because it has the same lte enabled chip as the v so it has bluetooth 4 but the T dosent..
You can temporarily add Canada to the T as it was just announced for my homeland . They did state that there would be HSPA and LTE models available but they weren't specific if the TL would be the LTE model.
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Updated THX
bump.. shud be a a sticky
lokenok said:
bump.. shud be a a sticky
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maybe you add some more specs and photo to help folks decide.
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bump.. shud be a a sticky
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I don't think it should as it's not hard to find in a low activity forum such as this and the majority of buyers don't have all the phone models as a choice as they're region specific so isn't a vital piece of info, just a nice to have. Also it's not a thread that requires bumping as we have the search function if it ever gets lost for the few people that do have the choice between all of them so can always be found.
What are the chances of seeing unbranded (non-AT&T) firmware for the TL anytime soon?
I want 4G, but only if I don't have to endure AT&T limitations...
U can flash europe ftf i think but exclude baseband.. it worked on ion i bet it works on t
Hlorri said:
What are the chances of seeing unbranded (non-AT&T) firmware for the TL anytime soon?
I want 4G, but only if I don't have to endure AT&T limitations...
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I was told Sony was talking about selling an unbranded unlock TL in the US through retailers like Amazon and Newegg but don't have a timeframe of when that will happen. Once the TL firmware is available through SUS I plan to try flashing the T firmware excluding the base and to see if that works. We did that with the ion initially using the LT28h firmware before the international ICS was available.
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Japanese market information is wrong.
VL - LTE , Japanese Versions has a diffrent design.
AX - Non LTE Japanese DoComo Version
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GX = LTE enabled hayabusa variant of the TX for the Japanese market.
AX = NTT Docomo variant of the V. It DOES OF COURSE support LTE plus is waterproof, dustproof, has 1-seg TV, and infrared communication.
VL = AU by KDDI variant of the V. It ALSO supports LTE but it's ONLY for that particular carrier therefore is CDMA2000 compatible.
They are both Japanese domestic market versions of the Xperia V that are waterproof, dustproof, have 1-seg TV, and infrared communication.
They are also Sony FeliCa compatible but compatibility with other types of NFC are not guaranteed.
AX reported uses a mini uSIM while the VL reportedly uses a micro UIM.
The AX is rated to support 4G FDD-LTE at 100Mbps down and 37.5Mbps up plus 14Mbps down/5.7Mbps up HSPA.
The VL is reported to support 3.9G FDD-LTE at 75Mbps down/25Mbps up and 9.2Mbps down/5.5 Mbps up.
The difference is most likely due to the AX being on NTT Docomo's slightly more mature FDD-LTE network and the VL being on AU by KDDI's FDD-LTE network.
The big differences are in the bands they support but they BOTH support LTE.
Xperia AX on NTT Docomo:
W-CDMA/UMTS 800/850/1700/2100 + 1500 when on LTE which runs on 2100/1500/800 (bands 1/11/18)
2G is can roam on GSM850/900/1800/1900 plus roaming on Edge
Xperia VL on AU by KDDI (which keep in mind runs CDMA2000 3G on bands different from other places):
CDMA2000 1xMC 800/2000 for voice and CDMA2000 1xEV-DO RevA for Data
FDD-LTE 800/1500 (Bands 18/11) for 4G Data
Roaming on WCDMA on 850/2000
Roaming on GSM on 190/1800/900
AX and VL variants are both Japanese market specific variants of the V with market specific features like TV, Infrared, etc.
The difference between the devices are the uSIM sizes and the networks/bands they support.
Xperia TL has a metal back, which is pretty thrilling.
`thanks for info
You still have "AX - Non LTE Japanese DoComo Version" written which was the part that was wrong.
They are all using the same chipset with LTE module but Sony decided to disable LTE module on T and TX.....T will ship globally starting 2013 and clearly T isn't designed for Europeans exclusively but this would be the last swedish design Sony Ericsson/Sony cellphone.
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[Q] C6906 baseband on C6903/C6943
Hello all! I saw that Xperia Z owners got LTE working when they flashed Xperia ZL baseband on their devices... So I was thinking about: LTE Bands for C6903 & C6943: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 LTE Bands for C6906: 700 / 850 / 900/ 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 My country (Brazil) have LTE working at 2600MHz on great cities, but roads and small cities will get 700MHz LTE (less expensive... bigger distance between cell sites and all that technical stuff). I own a C6943, if I flash the baseband of C6906 on my Xperia Z1 will LTE works on both 700MHz and 2600MHz?
RHBH said: Hello all! I saw that Xperia Z owners got LTE working when they flashed Xperia ZL baseband on their devices... So I was thinking about: LTE Bands for C6903 & C6943: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 LTE Bands for C6906: 700 / 850 / 900/ 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 My country (Brazil) have LTE working at 2600MHz on great cities, but roads and small cities will get 700MHz LTE (less expensive... bigger distance between cell sites and all that technical stuff). I own a C6943, if I flash the baseband of C6906 on my Xperia Z1 will LTE works on both 700MHz and 2600MHz? Click to expand... Click to collapse will someone help us with this? im too scared to flash the entire ftf onto the phone i have a c6903 i need the c6906 for at&t capabilities. I flashed just the baseband and nothing happened. i think you need the full ftf for any type of action really..i just dont want to mess up my phone right now its important to me
You can try it, but the physical modem may not be capable of (or calibrated for) the other frequencies. It's safe to flash full FTFs - unless you interrupt it or let the battery die, the worst thing that will happen is a soft brick, which you can fix by re-flashing a working FTF. I have read about some people doing the opposite (accidentally flashing 6903 onto 6906, or 6902 onto 6903) and they only lost some channels or 4G, but were able to flash back. This is a new device, you're probably just going to have to experiment.
xasbo said: You can try it, but the physical modem may not be capable of (or calibrated for) the other frequencies. It's safe to flash full FTFs - unless you interrupt it or let the battery die, the worst thing that will happen is a soft brick, which you can fix by re-flashing a working FTF. I have read about some people doing the opposite (accidentally flashing 6903 onto 6906, or 6902 onto 6903) and they only lost some channels or 4G, but were able to flash back. This is a new device, you're probably just going to have to experiment. Click to expand... Click to collapse i would really love to experiment, I just dont want to loose all my data and root :? there is no generic version of .534 for the c6906 which is exactly what I need to keep root and all my mods.
teamHTC said: i would really love to experiment, I just dont want to loose all my data and root :? there is no generic version of .534 for the c6906 which is exactly what I need to keep root and all my mods. Click to expand... Click to collapse Since you have root, you can TiBu or use recovery to make a complete backup, mess around, then restore when you're done. Guess it'll come down to how much you want LTE I have a C6906 and I've been looking for a generic 534 - it doesn't exist and probably never will. I've only seen the Rogers 534. Since 534, you can uninstall all their bloat anyway, good as you'll get.
I wouldn't worry about ftf breaking your phone if you flash the wrong version. I've mixed baseband with other region ftf before with my xperia ion. In order for lte to work, I need to keep the Rogers/North American baseband on my rogers xperia ion, but I flashed a generic nordic ftf (kernel and system only) in order to get jelly bean. Combination of best of both worlds. The reason why the Z works with the ZL baseband is because both phones support 2600 and Rogers has the 2600 frequency but for whatever reason needs the setting from the the North American baseband for everything to work correctly. There must be something slightly different with international 2600 and north american 2600. I doubt 700 will work since the c6943 doesn't support it. Also dont forget (at least up here in Canada) you need both a LTE sim card and possibly new lte APN settings for LTE to work. I dont think you need full ftf flash either... otherwise how would my xperia ion combo work? Also its running cyanogenmod at the moment... cyanogenmod is kernel and system only (it doesn't touch baseband). As long as you have the lte sim and correct lte apn it should just work.
raginginferno said: I wouldn't worry about ftf breaking your phone if you flash the wrong version. I've mixed baseband with other region ftf before with my xperia ion. In order for lte to work, I need to keep the Rogers/North American baseband on my rogers xperia ion, but I flashed a generic nordic ftf (kernel and system only) in order to get jelly bean. Combination of best of both worlds. The reason why the Z works with the ZL baseband is because both phones support 2600 and Rogers has the 2600 frequency but for whatever reason needs the setting from the the North American baseband for everything to work correctly. There must be something slightly different with international 2600 and north american 2600. I doubt 700 will work since the c6943 doesn't support it. Also dont forget (at least up here in Canada) you need both a LTE sim card and possibly new lte APN settings for LTE to work. I dont think you need full ftf flash either... otherwise how would my xperia ion combo work? Also its running cyanogenmod at the moment... cyanogenmod is kernel and system only (it doesn't touch baseband). As long as you have the lte sim and correct lte apn it should just work. Click to expand... Click to collapse Quick question about your idea, i want to flash a custom rom on my Z1 (the rom is 6903 based whereas my z1 is 6906). I already did and Lte works but signal is at least 2bars weaker than with 6906 rom. So what i can do is to flash a 6906 Tft, then flash over the 6903 rom while excluding baseband (to keep correct modem drivers/modules)? Thanks for your feedback. Sent from my C6906 using Tapatalk
The true test would me someone flashing the C6906 baseband on C6903 and test if 700MHz LTE is working or not. I can't test it because here in my country 700MHz LTE isn't deployed yet.
RHBH said: The true test would me someone flashing the C6906 baseband on C6903 and test if 700MHz LTE is working or not. I can't test it because here in my country 700MHz LTE isn't deployed yet. Click to expand... Click to collapse I did that and got better LTE speeds (average 33.5 Mb) than on the standard C6943 or C6903 (17-25 Mb) FTFs.
CSL00 said: I did that and got better LTE speeds (average 33.5 Mb) than on the standard C6943 or C6903 (17-25 Mb) FTFs. Click to expand... Click to collapse The speed is relative, as I said, the TRUE test is make a C6903 or C6943 work on 700MHz LTE, which my country (Brazil) don't have (yet).
I understood that, just said that despite the "correct" and "tested" C6943 ajusts the C6906 baseband works better. I also live in Brazil and I know we won't see the 700 mhz band anytime soon as they'll only be auctioning it later this year.
CSL00 said: I understood that, just said that despite the "correct" and "tested" C6943 ajusts the C6906 baseband works better. I also live in Brazil and I know we won't see the 700 mhz band anytime soon as they'll only be auctioning it later this year. Click to expand... Click to collapse True story. And most manufactures seems to be neglecting the fact that Brazil will have 4G at 700MHz in less than 2 years (in the current rhythm), I can't see even one LTE phone on Brazil that works on 700MHz and 2600MHz. There are phones that works on both bands (like C6906 or D6503 from Sony, Asian version of HTC One (M8), one version of Lumia 1520), but these models aren't the models sold on Brazil.
RHBH said: True story. And most manufactures seems to be neglecting the fact that Brazil will have 4G at 700MHz in less than 2 years (in the current rhythm), I can't see even one LTE phone on Brazil that works on 700MHz and 2600MHz. There are phones that works on both bands (like C6906 or D6503 from Sony, Asian version of HTC One (M8), one version of Lumia 1520), but these models aren't the models sold on Brazil. Click to expand... Click to collapse Yeah, I've got my eyes on the HTC One (M8) if for some reason the Z1 stops being good enough, but getting the asian model won't be so easy as the us or europe variants would be. If I'm not mistaken the only phone sold in Brazil that sported the 700Mhz band was the iPhone 5 and that only served to make people whine about no (local) 4G in the device lifespan.
Xperia Z1 (C6943) + CM12 = No LTE Need help. Have a Xperia Z1 (C6943) with Official CyanogenMod 12 and can't get 4g connection. Have already played with the network configurations without success. Tested my simcard in a Xperia Z2 with Sony firmware and it got 4g connection. Don't know what else to try and don't wanto to move back to Sony's firmware. Any ideas?
[Q] How to get a Sony Xperia VL to support all frequency bands
Hello to the community! Looking for help regarding a Japanese KDDI AU Xperia VL. The phone is unlocked and rooted but would not support 3G or LTE data services (in Germany) so far... Technically the phone should be capable of it (as the V or the AX version) but seems to be limited to the KDDI frequency bands so far. How can I get rid of this limitation? Flashing an Xperia AX ROM? Thanx a lot!!
Don't they use CDMA based networks in Japan and not GSM based networks as in the rest of the world? Wouldn't surprise me, if they didn't include GSM compatible hardware
In Korea and Japan they use different systems. That's easier than saying: Nokia and Motorola are not permitted to sell here.
[Q] Do all variants of the Xperia Z have the same baseband chip?
Hello, I live in the USA and I bought the Xperia Z from T-Mobile a while ago. I do know that I have the C6606 variant, and it is only set to support LTE Band !V (1700 MHz). I was just wondering if all the variants of the Z have the same baseband chips because if so, I was thinking of flashing a firmware baseband from the C6603 so I can get more LTE bands for when I go to the Philippines in a couple of months. The carriers over there supports Band I (Smart Comm.) and Band III (Globe Telecom).. I will be staying there for a while so I would like to get the most out of my phone, so help please? Thanks.
All Z may have the same baseband chip, but flashing other basebands won't work for you. It might be locked by either software or hardware.
[Q] Help!!!about fdd-lte and td-lte
Does the sony sp with both fdd-lte and td-lte?Because I heard the iphone5s can be updated to have both.Is there anyone knowing about that?Thanks~~~~~
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-5364.php ? Or the white paper: http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/sony-xperia-sp-lte-c5303-white-paper/ You should be able to find your answer
Thanks for you reply.I know your mean.And what I mean is the Sony Sp's chipset if supporting the fdd-lte and td-lte.If it support,we can use fdd-lte in our country,td-lte in others.
Enabling band 3/1800 MHz LTE on Xperia Z 6606
dear Experts, Just bought a Xperia Z. Unfortunately, in my country, the telcos use LTE on band 3 at 1800MHz. However, there aren't any good options available in the market. I had a nexus on which i hacked the QCN through a procedure which enabled band 3. Is there any possibility or workaround through which band 3/1800MHz can be enabled on my Xperia Z C6606 (T-mobile variant). Thanks
c4capricorn said: dear Experts, Just bought a Xperia Z. Unfortunately, in my country, the telcos use LTE on band 3 at 1800MHz. However, there aren't any good options available in the market. I had a nexus on which i hacked the QCN through a procedure which enabled band 3. Is there any possibility or workaround through which band 3/1800MHz can be enabled on my Xperia Z C6606 (T-mobile variant). Thanks Click to expand... Click to collapse Check cross development section