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For everyone that havent noticed yet, theres a new app on the market that allows ZOOM on the G1 Camera, now we are only missing a FLASH so we can get great quality pics on night.
What is the name of the app?
BSDADON said:
What is the name of the app?
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CamaraZoom
That's the easy way to find it via search on the market... and cost .99 euro?
You do know that this is digital zoom and not optical zoom, right? You're basically getting a cropped picture. You may as well just take the picture click the zoom button on your viewer...
What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
MoridinBG said:
What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
Now, if you really want a zoom, get one of these babies. I got it on e-bay for $13 including shipping and it's the real deal. Plus, you look like a total ubercooldork when you pull it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508175
Ill be happier when they come out with the S60 ability to do "Night Mode" which gave me GREAT pictures in nighttime and so without the flash.
At max zoom you are getting the equivalent of a .5MP photo which means you have an image that is 2048x1526 pixels large and only have 500,000 pixels to fill it. Add to that the fact that the autofocus cant figure out what to do to obtain a decent image and you end up with pictures that are more grainy than the Sahara Desert. This is why I havent added it to snapPhoto. If you want crappy pictures then simply take the image and zoom it with some other app.
Now Flash. You do realise that flash is a hardware thing right? And you do realise that you cant code hardware into something that doesnt have it. I would have thought that was a basic concept but here we are 9 months after launch and people still cant figure that out.
As far as nightmode - on snapphoto it does work, but it cant make light where there is none so if you expect it to make a shot taken in very dark areas to suddenly be like a shot taken in full daylight - think again. All nightmode does is leave the shutter open longer in an attempt to get more light exposure. As a result of this any movement will lead to much blurrier pics.
If you want an example of what can be achieved by someone who takes a little time to play with the settings in my app check out .
http://thecrayonbox.org/files/nightbeach.jpg
Taken with snapphotopro.
Nice with snapphoto. I may try that for the G1. However the Nokia S60 phones have a great night mode. Ive taken alot of pictures with low light and it performed better then my optical digital camera. This was with a Nokia 3650 which isnt even a MP phone (My 2 MP camera was dark photos only)
This was taken at a amusement park on top of the "Eifel Tower" at the twilight night time.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(42).jpg
I did a comparison that night between the 2 modes.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(43).jpg
Yea it added a green tint, but for when I travel out now, I use my phone all the time. =) (Granted did upgraded to a higher caliber S60 MP camera phone lol)
nolageek said:
Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
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i LOLed.
This is a seriously cool camera.
I know its digital zoom but really helps for composition and saves the hassle of cropping later on (say if I take 10 zoomed pictures).
I love Snap Photo too, but Camera ZOOM is the new camera for me - seems a lot of people like it - already top 25 app!
Customisable skins, animations, easy to use and fast ... would definitely recommend.
I was wondering if there is any application on the net so you can take long exposure photos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_(photography)
hope im clear...
thnq very much
+1 on this, I'd kill to have something like that.
Lol.... better get a very nice tripod for your phone..
http://joby.com/gorillamobile
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http://joby.com/gorillamobile
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Interesting. Could be nice to have one, but I'm afraid I don't really have much need for it.
Funny while trying to accomplish a picture of the full moon this past week I dreamed of this exact feature. But i have to agree, without a tripod it would be a blurry mess.
The phone takes incredible close up pictures, or normal high res pictures when i set the focus to center. But without a way to steady the phone, it would be basically useless.
But i would still try it!! Hell yeah.
so till now nobody ever came across something like this???... ...it must possible right?..I just want a small application thats able to keep the shutter open for a few second...
I do not know of any application for this. However, even if you find one I am not sure you would like the results. Small very dense CMOS sensors like the ones in thee phones do not like long exposures. The sensor heats up quickly and creates tons of image noise that has to be removed in post processing. By the time you delete the noise, all the detail is gone as well. I have a $2.5K Leica that takes great pictures at normal exposures, but anything over 1/4 second is unusable to me.
If you want long digital exposures worth keeping, you really need to step up to a higher quality camera with a larger physical sensor. Oddly enough, the lower the megapixel count, the better the image will be.
Doug M.
Its a good idea but i dont think the picture would come out great. Since the phone's camera sensor is so small there would be A LOT of noise. Even on my Canon XSi with long exposures I get some noise, and the cameras sensor is about 20 times bigger than the phones.
dwmackay said:
I do not know of any application for this. However, even if you find one I am not sure you would like the results. Small very dense CMOS sensors like the ones in thee phones do not like long exposures. The sensor heats up quickly and creates tons of image noise that has to be removed in post processing. By the time you delete the noise, all the detail is gone as well. I have a $2.5K Leica that takes great pictures at normal exposures, but anything over 1/4 second is unusable to me.
If you want long digital exposures worth keeping, you really need to step up to a higher quality camera with a larger physical sensor. Oddly enough, the lower the megapixel count, the better the image will be.
Doug M.
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And yet, my $1.8K Canon takes AMAZING long exposure shots, even up to 30 seconds.
here's one I setup in about 5 seconds a couple years ago: http://l3it3r.com/2007/bashir.jpg
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And yet, my $1.8K Canon takes AMAZING long exposure shots, even up to 30 seconds.
here's one I setup in about 5 seconds a couple years ago: http://l3it3r.com/2007/bashir.jpg
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Yes, my newer Nikon D700 does quite well with low-light and long exposures. I have done some 30 second exposures that just amaze me. The Leica is old by digital standards (4 years). I cannot wait to seewhat the next 4 years will bring. Maybe we can get rid of our flashes forever...
Doug M.
You could just take a video and then convert it to a long exposure photo using an app on your computer
http://www.nimisis.com/projects/exposure.php
I also just saw this app online, haven't tried it yet though.
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/time-exposure_nbeb.html
And the free version:
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/entertainment/time-exposure-free_nbec.html
Iphone???
I know That iphone has one Called Magic Shutter and it replicates some amazing results. Now all we need is to port it to android
long exposure is awesome. even my $400 xti takes some excellent long exposure pictures.
I want to do timelapse star photography and I need 20+ second exposure times per shot. Grrrr.
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
Its not really a fault of the camera or the phone, it is attempting to get a correctly exposed shot with the light available and if there is a lot of movement in poor light the bits that are moving get blurred due to a slow shutter speed.
You might want to try using the colour sensor only although it is well known the camera app is a bit crap, you could try another like Camera Zoom FX etc.
Cheers for the reply,
I have opencamera installed but didn't really use it much so I'll give that a test over the next few days.
shaunydub said:
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
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Change your wife and problem solved?
ben_linux said:
Change your wife and problem solved?
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LMAO!
Haha,
Sadly I will still have the challenge with pictures of moving things.
shaunydub said:
Cheers for the reply,
I have opencamera installed but didn't really use it much so I'll give that a test over the next few days.
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Trouble is comparing it with an iPhone isn't going to help either, i think the camera in the Nokia 8 gets a bad rap but clearly it cant compete with an iPhone which are known for having great cameras.
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Trouble is comparing it with an iPhone isn't going to help either, i think the camera in the Nokia 8 gets a bad rap but clearly it cant compete with an iPhone which are known for having great cameras.
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For sure, but I had a lot of phones with camera's over the years and didn't get blur as bad as this guy.
iphone 6 is 3 years old so I would expect it to produce better photo's than that (ignoring the blur factor), when I had my Lumia 950XL my wife was amazed at how good the photo's looked compared to her iphone.
If I can just find a better camera app than the default one it can be ok.
But did you try Google Camera on the dev section ? the BSG, Cstark or Arnova one ? There is zero shutter lag like Pixels, and it's very good.
You can't compete with Lumia 950XL though. Still a king after these years and incredible in low light
shaunydub said:
For sure, but I had a lot of phones with camera's over the years and didn't get blur as bad as this guy.
iphone 6 is 3 years old so I would expect it to produce better photo's than that (ignoring the blur factor), when I had my Lumia 950XL my wife was amazed at how good the photo's looked compared to her iphone.
If I can just find a better camera app than the default one it can be ok.
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Age has nothing to do with it though, a good camera is a good camera, my (now little used) Canon 20D is 14 years old and still takes a cracking photo.
The f2 aperture is the weak point on the Nokia 8, even my Moto G5 Plus has an f1.7 aperture and sadly Nokia cant do anything to change that other than force the camera to shoot with a higher ISO and therefore a faster shutter in low light.
Use the google camera app. Turn on "HDR+ Enhanced" and you should not get blurry photo in decent/good light. A bit of delay per shot but you'll get great image.
The phone still gives up in low light, however.
Bit late here, but I have the same issue. I think the camera is ****. Even my old phones (and cheaper phones are significantly better at capturing moving targets). Really disappointed. Got new kitten, 1 in 10 photos is keepable. Even in bright light. It just takes way too long to focus, often missing the moment altogether.
shaunydub said:
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
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Slow/blurry focus is already a common problem on Nokia 8. You can install the Google Camera to resolve the problem. It also comes with some new features (such as motion picture) which is currently and exclusively on Google Pixel 2 camera as well.??
Let's check out the following posts for details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/themes/modded-google-camera-hdr-nokia-8-t3713411
Google Camera port download page:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Reading some say Iqoo Neo 3 might have not the sharpest photos, anyone tested with GCAM to see if it improves quality?
I own this phone, and the camera is a big step up from my 3 year old axon 7. As far as 'not the sharpest photos' goes, often in portait mode the vivo camera does a lot of automatic settings, that adjust beauty and light. sometimes this doesnt go well, but probably 85% of the time, if I'm patient, I get a terrific photo.
With GCAM, I have had success with GCAM 7.3.020, modified(m_7.2.010_Urnyx05-v2.2.apk) for taking astrophotography, but sometimes the app does crash with regular photos.
from this guide
https://www.ytechb.com/download-google-camera-7-3-for-iqoo-3/
I am happy with this phone camera. It is better than my wifes Redmi Note 8 pro. I cannot compare it with other, similar priced or spec'ed phones.
Hope this helps.
Maybe you have photo samples from your neo 3? Thanks !
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Maybe you have photo samples from your neo 3? Thanks !
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Sorry for very late reply.
First image (floating structure in water) was captured at sunset with vivo's camera. all auto, just a regular photo, no tripod. This is the best example and one of my favourite photos. The AI for taking a photo and adjusting itself to the light did a great job IMO.
Second photo is using gcam and a selfie stick with a base. 30 second photo of the milky way, about 10pm at night, in a country area with little to no light pollution.
Both photos are compressed by both google images and then xda uploads. original file size is about 8-9mb for each.
Sorry I'm not keen to upload any portrait photos.
I'm opening this thread since I don't see it there.
Why do I get the impression that the 960 FPS Slow Motion that the Camera does is actually an interpolated version of a 240 FPS version?
Today I was curious to see how good it was, I put the 960 FPS mode and I said: I will finally be able to see every little detail of my experiments and social life.
I was very disappointed to see that after the video had been processed I would find myself with an old acquaintance of interpolation algorithms such as RIFE, CAIN or DAIN... The distortions. These flaws are common when interpolating videos as the AI is trying to guess where the next pixel will go in the next frame, as a consequence sometimes a teleportation effect is generated and that's what I realized today.
Honestly, that has left me disappointed because now I know that in the 960 FPS version, 3 out of 4 frames are not real.
It would be stupid to ask but the camera and processor specs support 960 FPS video. Why didn't Motorola actually implement it? Instead it is using the NPU to Interpolate
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I'm opening this thread since I don't see it there.
Why do I get the impression that the 960 FPS Slow Motion that the Camera does is actually an interpolated version of a 240 FPS version?
Today I was curious to see how good it was, I put the 960 FPS mode and I said: I will finally be able to see every little detail of my experiments and social life.
I was very disappointed to see that after the video had been processed I would find myself with an old acquaintance of interpolation algorithms such as RIFE, CAIN or DAIN... The distortions. These flaws are common when interpolating videos as the AI is trying to guess where the next pixel will go in the next frame, as a consequence sometimes a teleportation effect is generated and that's what I realized today.
Honestly, that has left me disappointed because now I know that in the 960 FPS version, 3 out of 4 frames are not real.
It would be stupid to ask but the camera and processor specs support 960 FPS video. Why didn't Motorola actually implement it? Instead it is using the NPU to Interpolate
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They couldn't be bothered. Much about this device is made just to seem good on the surface but actually using it is a different story. I, for example, doubt that the main camera is even 108MP. Taking photos in 108MP does not offer any more detail than 12MP. They honestly should have just gone for an OIS 16MP or something but no, they went backwards from last generation and slapped in this garbage sensor, which is a shame since the telephoto and wide angle are actually great. I also noticed the messed up "960fps video" and I just never use it.
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They couldn't be bothered. Much about this device is made just to seem good on the surface but actually using it is a different story. I, for example, doubt that the main camera is even 108MP. Taking photos in 108MP does not offer any more detail than 12MP. They honestly should have just gone for an OIS 16MP or something but no, they went backwards from last generation and slapped in this garbage sensor, which is a shame since the telephoto and wide angle are actually great. I also noticed the messed up "960fps video" and I just never use it.
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Actually in the rest of the sections I am satisfied for the price of the phone but in the quality of the main camera I was disappointed. I'm still using GCam and I can't find a way to make the photo display with its details.
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Actually in the rest of the sections I am satisfied for the price of the phone but in the quality of the main camera I was disappointed. I'm still using GCam and I can't find a way to make the photo display with its details.
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What do you mean by "display with it's detail"? The phone does take soft pictures with the main camera, I know. Shooting in RAW and opening the images in Light Room does show that there is a lot of detail that gets crushed due to the aggressive denoise algorithm that GCam uses, and the main camera app sharpens the image so much that it ends up looking like an oil painting.
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What do you mean by "display with it's detail"? The phone does take soft pictures with the main camera, I know. Shooting in RAW and opening the images in Light Room does show that there is a lot of detail that gets crushed due to the aggressive denoise algorithm that GCam uses, and the main camera app sharpens the image so much that it ends up looking like an oil painting.
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With details I was referring to the information that the camera captures when you zoom in and start to see noise. I find no way to prevent the noise algorithm from creating corrections far from reality. When you take a picture, the photo is perfect until you zoom to 4x. You realize that you start to see noise and lose detail. And Motorola in the camera content update it released earlier this week hasn't fixed anything.