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I might be a senior, but we're all still learning
So my question is, when you wipe/reflash something, is there a way to keep all the Protected/Paid apps installed when you start up? Normally, a wipe will break all of your protected/paid apps and list them in the launcher as "com.XXXX.XXXX" or even "org.XXX.XXX". Launching them results in the infamous Force Close box.
This is indeed on Apps2SD and with Cyan's new 3.9
Have you tried running the fix_permissions script?
I'll reboot and run it now
Didn't fix them, unfortunatly :/
lukekirstein said:
Didn't fix them, unfortunatly :/
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Back up all your apps using MyBackupPro or Backup for Root Users. I have all mine on my sd so they re-install automatically. I don't have to do anything, and they don't load up as com.xxxxx.htc.. blah. But I use Backup for Root Users when I do have to format my ext2 and this brings them back no problem.
Hmm interesting. I've never used Backup for Root Users with apps, just the data. Takes too long for me with all my apps...but I managed to find the spare time to re-install, that was fun . Thanks guys!
my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.
kusotare said:
my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.
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Wouldn't hurt to have a backup unlocked GSM phone too. That's one of the nice things about GSM-based technologies... if your phone dies for whatever reason, pop the sim out and put it in a backup phone. You'll still be able to be contacted while you fix the primary device.
I had this issue too with the same Rom and with the previous version. This is how I solved it.
First I deleted all apps, etc from my SD card while it was connected to my Mac, just made it easier. (I was also running a previous Apps2Sd, not the one built into the mod, which I believe was the root of the issue. I didn't use the old apps2sd once I upgraded the ROM, and I may be way off but I find it suspect.
Then I wiped and reinstalled the ROM. Yea I had to reinstall my apps but...
...before doing all that I had tried removing and then reinstalling an app. A reboot/power cycle of the G1 would result in the icon being gone again and that ugly error message in regards to the app.
When I did the step I mentioned prevously, delete, wipe, etc I've not had any further issues.
I've also since updated by fs from ext2 to ext3 but that was after the fact.
Cyan's mod is by far my favorite and consistently stable and well documented. I'm glad I was able to correct my issues.
kusotare said:
my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.
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Have to agree completely with the above. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.
lukekirstein said:
I might be a senior, but we're all still learning
So my question is, when you wipe/reflash something, is there a way to keep all the Protected/Paid apps installed when you start up? Normally, a wipe will break all of your protected/paid apps and list them in the launcher as "com.XXXX.XXXX" or even "org.XXX.XXX". Launching them results in the infamous Force Close box.
This is indeed on Apps2SD and with Cyan's new 3.9
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Did you manage to find a solution to this problem? If you did, could you please post it. I flash different ROMs often. Having to reinstall my paid apps over and over again is starting to get very annoying.
Haven't tried yet. I might try the MyBackup Pro option, as I heard it's a great app anyways. But I know what you mean
I was using my phone a few hours ago (adding an icon from the application drawer to the home screen if that will help with solving the problem) when suddenly, the phone reset itself as though I had done a wipe from the recovery console. I had to sign back into Google and re-sync my contacts and calendar. All my settings were back to defaults. My home screen icons disappeared and changed to the default icons (browser, contacts, dialer, market, messaging, maps) as did the wallpaper. All my SMS messages were gone. Basically, it as was as though I had wiped and flashed the ROM for the first time.
However, and this is the weird part. Not only were all my apps still there but they were still installed. All the settings were lost but they were still there. I am not concerned with the restoration of my settings or anything like that. I've got that all covered with backups. My big question is why did it happen? Has anyone experienced or heard of this phantom reset? My ROM details are in my sig but just in case that changes and someone visits this post later, it will make more sense to them if I list it in the post itself.
Cyanogen 3.6.8.1 w/Recovery Menu v1.4. Radio v2.22.19.26i. A2SD on 550MB ext2 partition. Compcache enabled/24MB.
Has the only happened once with you? It could have been just a glitch.
supremeteam256 said:
Has the only happened once with you? It could have been just a glitch.
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Well, I can tell you why your apps survived, because you have them on sd card so that's not weird, you can wipe all you want and they will survive.
I would say this is a glitch, don't worry about it unless it happens again.
borodin1 said:
Well, I can tell you why your apps survived, because you have them on sd card so that's not weird, you can wipe all you want and they will survive.
I would say this is a glitch, don't worry about it unless it happens again.
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Yes, the apps on sd being the reason I didn't lose them makes sense. I had a different problem losing apps on the sd when I wiped but that was a mistakes in the way I was slinking and it was also on JF1.51 (a2sd is very unstable on that ROM). Anyway, I'm seriously hoping it was just a one time glitch because my setup is voodoo smooth otherwise. I finally got my G1 running perfectly and I'd hate to think something was wrong. Either way, Nandroid is always an option.
Phantom Reset Not a Glitch. Happened Again!
OK. So it happened again. The phantom reset that I described in the first post happened to me again. It's pretty annoying to have to perform Nadroid restores all the time. Anyone have any real thoughts other than telling me it was a fluke?
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I am pretty certain that this happened right after I used Backup for Root Users. I have my identical setup on my father's G1 and this has never happened. He has told me in the past that he does not use that app. I don't want to instantly blame the app but I want to provide as much info as possible. Cyan's ROMs are too good for this to be an issue.
aaronratner said:
OK. So it happened again. The phantom reset that I described in the first post happened to me again. It's pretty annoying to have to perform Nadroid restores all the time. Anyone have any real thoughts other than telling me it was a fluke?
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The dev has reported that it has issues (if you can replicate the errors, send him a logcat)
hes on the forums on this site
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Thanks a lot. I will try and write-up (on dev's site) of what I was doing when it happened. It happened to me twice so I don't think I will use it again (at least until it's fixed). I am a backup freak so I like to use multiple apps but nandroid seems to cover it all. I will stick with what seems to work (and work well) for now.
On a side note, Cyan's latest looks too juicy not to try out. Going to upgrade now.
Hi!
Yesterday my phone beeped telling me there was and Android update available, around 198MB
it came from this
dropbox.. com/s/kek0lyolyzdrjhj/2014-10-17%2020.16.39.png?dl=0
To this
dropbox.. com/s/zh92wxumigfe00e/2014-10-17%2020.38.32.png?dl=0
Everything was ok for some hours until hell broke loose
The screen will have a bad time turning on. I press the button several times with no response.
The phone is lagged as my grandpa in his grave. Apps close and even transition from one screen to the other is everything but impossible.
But, when I reboot it, it's ok for as long as I'm using it. If I lock the screen and let it aside for a while, the problems come back
No app updates in the meantime. It went from smooth to horrendous in the period of 4 or 5 hours. I didn't use it much in there, but I doubt it was malfunctioning like this
Special apps I have are Greenify pro, MinGuard (I think that's the name), SuperUser and I rooted it with Towelroot long ago
Any help will be appreciated
marioho said:
Hi!
Yesterday my phone beeped telling me there was and Android update available, around 198MB
it came from this
dropbox.. com/s/kek0lyolyzdrjhj/2014-10-17%2020.16.39.png?dl=0
To this
dropbox.. com/s/zh92wxumigfe00e/2014-10-17%2020.38.32.png?dl=0
Everything was ok for some hours until hell broke loose
The screen will have a bad time turning on. I press the button several times with no response.
The phone is lagged as my grandpa in his grave. Apps close and even transition from one screen to the other is everything but impossible.
But, when I reboot it, it's ok for as long as I'm using it. If I lock the screen and let it aside for a while, the problems come back
No app updates in the meantime. It went from smooth to horrendous in the period of 4 or 5 hours. I didn't use it much in there, but I doubt it was malfunctioning like this
Special apps I have are Greenify pro, MinGuard (I think that's the name), SuperUser and I rooted it with Towelroot long ago
Any help will be appreciated
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If it was a factory update I'm willing to bet you lost root along with busybox. If so, TowelRoot will probably not work this time. There's another root exploit available called PurpleDrake.
shinobisoft said:
If it was a factory update I'm willing to bet you lost root along with busybox. If so, TowelRoot will probably not work this time. There's another root exploit available called PurpleDrake.
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Thank you! I did it, re-rooted it following the instructions (indeed it looked like I'd lost my root) but the problem is not solved.
It's just a hunch, but seems to me that changing the Launcher smoothes things up. I was using Google Now Launcher and switched to both LG stock one and Solo Launcher and it seems to be ok.
I'll update the post in a few minutes to clarify it further. It could be that just those few minutes of usage after a reboot are smooth, as I stated in OP. Nevertheless, as soon as I change the launcher, the phone behaves better
Any hints? Google launcher version in Play Store is from August 1st here
Edit: bah, no luck. Same ****, regardless of the chosen launcher.
What do I do now? Try to downgrade it?
marioho said:
Thank you! I did it, re-rooted it following the instructions (indeed it looked like I'd lost my root) but the problem is not solved.
It's just a hunch, but seems to me that changing the Launcher smoothes things up. I was using Google Now Launcher and switched to both LG stock one and Solo Launcher and it seems to be ok.
I'll update the post in a few minutes to clarify it further. It could be that just those few minutes of usage after a reboot are smooth, as I stated in OP. Nevertheless, as soon as I change the launcher, the phone behaves better
Any hints? Google launcher version in Play Store is from August 1st here
Edit: bah, no luck. Same ****, regardless of the chosen launcher.
What do I do now? Try to downgrade it?
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Wait a minute. I remember some issues changing from Quarx ROM back to stock. I walked someone else thru this once before. Lemme see if I can find that post. Otherwise I'll have to go back to stock, which isn't a problem but I'd rather not if I can avoid it. LOL.
shinobisoft said:
Wait a minute. I remember some issues changing from Quarx ROM back to stock. I walked someone else thru this once before. Lemme see if I can find that post. Otherwise I'll have to go back to stock, which isn't a problem but I'd rather not if I can avoid it. LOL.
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There's a special place in Heaven for people like you.
It's probably clear by now, but I'm using stock rom here. I grabbed the phone in its early days, when this sub was crawling its way to glory, and we didn't even have a Recovery by that time. Since I was mostly ok with Stock, never minded doing anything special other than rooting it.
marioho said:
There's a special place in Heaven for people like you.
It's probably clear by now, but I'm using stock rom here. I grabbed the phone in its early days, when this sub was crawling its way to glory, and we didn't even have a Recovery by that time. Since I was mostly ok with Stock, never minded doing anything special other than rooting it.
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LOL. Thanks
Here's the post.
Let me know if that does the trick.
---------- Post added at 03:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:33 PM ----------
I forgot to mention, the code listed to activate LG's hidden menu is for the D415 variant.
Code:
3845#*XXX#
Change the XXX to your device model number, ie, 400, 405, 410, 415
shinobisoft said:
LOL. Thanks
Here's the post.
Let me know if that does the trick.
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I forgot to mention, the code listed to activate LG's hidden menu is for the D415 variant.
Code:
3845#*XXX#
Change the XXX to your device model number, ie, 400, 405, 410, 415
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Haha I noticed that. Mine is 410 (LGD410HN, to be more precise, according to lg-firmware-rom.com).
I followed the instructions. This is what I saw: dropbox. com/s/6h721axufevchjw/2014-10-18%2019.42.10.png?dl=0
I'll update the post in a few minutes with the outcome. As far as I can see, though, things seem to be the same.
Just rebooted the phone, so it takes a few minutes for it to get sluggish.
Edit: Yeah, same thing.
It's another hunch, but every now and then pops up a message saying that a certain google process or app stopped working. Yesterday's update did have a pack of Google updates, IIRC.
Check greenified apps. Maybe it's trying greenify any system or normal app and Android it's trying wake it. Same problem here time ago
Kowalzki said:
Check greenified apps. Maybe it's trying greenify any system or normal app and Android it's trying wake it. Same problem here time ago
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It makes sense if you take in account that the problem starts a few minutes after the phone sits idle.
I opened Greenify and there was this orange popup
dropbox. com/s/qkxeb850esfkxuo/2014-10-18%2020.40.57.png?dl=0
I disabled the auto-hibernate featuer now and unchecked the google apps that were on the list (Play Music; Play Books, Play Games, Remote Access - i think). But I didn't add any app since the update yesterday and the phone was running smooth since the last time I checked a few more, wich happened weeks ago.
I've got no clue about what may be causing the auto-hibernation problem that Greenify notes (the picture above).
I'll only be able to state for sure in a few minutes, but seems to me that the problem persists.
marioho said:
It makes sense if you take in account that the problem starts a few minutes after the phone sits idle.
I opened Greenify and there was this orange popup
dropbox. com/s/qkxeb850esfkxuo/2014-10-18%2020.40.57.png?dl=0
I disabled the auto-hibernate featuer now and unchecked the google apps that were on the list (Play Music; Play Books, Play Games, Remote Access - i think). But I didn't add any app since the update yesterday and the phone was running smooth since the last time I checked a few more, wich happened weeks ago.
I've got no clue about what may be causing the auto-hibernation problem that Greenify notes (the picture above).
I'll only be able to state for sure in a few minutes, but seems to me that the problem persists.
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Do you have a custom recovery installed? If so, the only other suggestion I have, mainly because of the app updates, is to wipe cache and Dalvik cache and then reboot the device.
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Do you have a custom recovery installed? If so, the only other suggestion I have, mainly because of the app updates, is to wipe cache and Dalvik cache and then reboot the device.
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No, I don't, but I'll try to install one right now.
If it doesn't work, will downgrade be the only option?
marioho said:
No, I don't, but I'll try to install one right now.
If it doesn't work, will downgrade be the only option?
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That's what it's sounding like. I hate to say that because the only way to downgrade is to flash a KDZ. Unless someone has made a flashable zip of your stock ROM.
shinobisoft said:
That's what it's sounding like. I hate to say that because the only way to downgrade is to flash a KDZ. Unless someone has made a flashable zip of your stock ROM.
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It's been ages since I last meddled with KDZ-ish things... I guess the "hate to say" part is because it will wipe all data from my phone, right?
I installed CWM and wiped cache and Dalvik. It asked to fix my root, I chose 'yes' and rebooted. After the phone took its sweet time to update apps, I was gifted with this popup message after normally unlocking the screen:
Code:
Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps has stopped.
It's the same error message I've been receiving constantly for a while now, as I stated before.
And, yes, things seem to be the same broken s**t as before.
Gosh, what a headache!
marioho said:
It's been ages since I last meddled with KDZ-ish things... I guess the "hate to say" part is because it will wipe all data from my phone, right?
I installed CWM and wiped cache and Dalvik. It asked to fix my root, I chose 'yes' and rebooted. After the phone took its sweet time to update apps, I was gifted with this popup message after normally unlocking the screen:
Code:
Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps has stopped.
It's the same error message I've been receiving constantly for a while now, as I stated before.
And, yes, things seem to be the same broken s**t as before.
Gosh, what a headache!
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Unfortunately, you cannot just reflash GApps on stock like we can on custom ROMs. As for CWM asking to fix root, this generally isn't needed. So selecting "No" wouldn't hurt.
Well my friend, I'm fresh outta ideas. This may be the first issue that I've not had a fix for. LOL. Sorry. I really hate it when I can't help someone resolve an issue. It's the perfectionist in me, LOL.
Your help and almost instantaneous replies made it. I appreciate, trust me.
I'll search for that old post with LG tool and kdz files and do the deed in a few minutes. I'll update the topic and deem it Solved when I'm finished
Thank you, again
I have flashed prolly 25 ROMs over the last year or so. All were various XDA posted ROMs. All were flashed by first wiping the internal system fully as well as the cache and dalvik.
Over time my M7 has become sluggish.
Is it possible that the SD has some residual files that are slowing the overall OS and a total wipe might help?
metropical said:
I have flashed prolly 25 ROMs over the last year or so. All were various XDA posted ROMs. All were flashed by first wiping the internal system fully as well as the cache and dalvik.
Over time my M7 has become sluggish.
Is it possible that the SD has some residual files that are slowing the overall OS and a total wipe might help?
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You might want to do a full wipe and you might want to remove some old files off of your phone to give it more breathing room. Remember to backup everything including the ROM and copy it off of your phone in case something goes wrong.
If you really wanted a clean start then you could get an htc RUU but it would reset the phone completely stock, so make a backup. This helped me when I had a similar slow down on my phone
majmoz said:
You might want to do a full wipe and you might want to remove some old files off of your phone to give it more breathing room. Remember to backup everything including the ROM and copy it off of your phone in case something goes wrong.
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I did a full wipe factory reset. So far things seem better, other than the 1 xPosed module I installed, MacroExpansion, isn't working properly, or at least not the way it did before the wipe.
metropical said:
I did a full wipe factory reset. So far things seem better, other than the 1 xPosed module I installed, MacroExpansion, isn't working properly, or at least not the way it did before the wipe.
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how many of these slow down threads do you have going ?
To me it seems your digging the same hole you were in before. Why don't you try using the phone without Xposed and without 110 junk apps and games on it? xPosed is a Hack ..the second you install and activate it your phone is no longer normal and your asking for problems
clsA said:
how many of these slow down threads do you have going ?
To me it seems your digging the same hole you were in before. Why don't you try using the phone without Xposed and without 110 junk apps and games on it? xPosed is a Hack ..the second you install and activate it your phone is no longer normal and your asking for problems
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couple thousand.
no junk, no games at all. and since exposed worked before without issues, I think it's likely to work again. But I'll have some worthwhile input to figure its' issue.
Do I have multiples of the same concept?
Yep, weather for instance. Coz sometimes the servers don't respond when I want to know what's ahead.
Do I have a lot of apps that are seldom used? Yep, but when they're of use, they are.
the one "junk app" that was in particular misbehaving was a NYC subway map, which can be helpful when I go to areas that I'm not totally familiar with.
It now works fine.
One mans junk is anothers useful app. But do I have dancing chickens? Nope.
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and since exposed worked before without issues, I think it's likely to work again.
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Right their is the flaw in your thinking, you did have issues that's why you wiped the phone (Twice). You'll eventually figure it out the hard way
clsA said:
Right their is the flaw in your thinking, you did have issues that's why you wiped the phone (Twice). You'll eventually figure it out the hard way
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Time will tell.
I tried an OTA of Android Pie tonight, this was from EE UK.
First the system update couldn't verify, so I had to hard power off the phone, on powering on it re-installed and loaded up.
I unlocked the phone from the lock screen and it went to "Android Starting" and after a few moments rebooted.
Now the phone loads up but I can't unlock it, I just get constant PIN incorrects. It's a software issue because you never get to the limit of pin attempts, or the forgotten password option.
Contacted Sony, they've heard of it numerous times today, can't do anything about it.
They'll tell you to use Sony Companion to backup and restore, which you can't do unless the phones unlocked. So basically demand a full reset all data lost.
Update at your own risk, maybe consider removing device pin before the update if you can.
Same problem here in France.
There's a thread on talk.sonymobile: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ1-Compact/Can-t-access-phone-after-updating/td-p/1351581/page/2
So far no working solution.
The french sonyxperia twitter account is also useless.
No problem with the update here. Although, I don't have a device PIN, but a password.
After the update, some apps seem to run less stable than before...
zwan33 said:
No problem with the update here. Although, I don't have a device PIN, but a password.
After the update, some apps seem to run less stable than before...
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backup ur photos/videos and make a factory reset, everything works flawlessly for me.
rideti.me said:
So basically demand a full reset all data lost.
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It's a painful lesson, but backing up everything before doing anything is a must, even when doing something like an OTA update which you expect to work. I'm just waiting for a customized UK ftf to become available and will be doing a complete wipe which alleviates any unforeseen conflicts.
I had full backup, the corruption was in the pincode, therefore encryption control is lost. The backups are encrypted, I've recovered apps, messages, contacts etc.... But none of the appdata was recoverable without de-crypt.
I feel lucky: I used the repair function because I did not want to have all those small issues usually coming with a big OTA update. I did not expect such a big problem though.
Not to shove it in the face of all the people having this annoying issue, but I can confirm that with a fresh install everything is smooth and I haven't experienced any "big" bug as of yet. The phone seems even faster than with Oreo.
To be honest, besides the long process to reactivate the app of my bank, I don't even mind resetting all my apps every now and then, I noticed that it preserves battery life and performances. But I do understand that this may not be an option to some of you...
TechIntrigue said:
Just curious, why wait for the customized UK version? Does that have any benefits over the other firmware releases?
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TBH, I'm not so sure, about either. Having read yesterday that the Singapore fw only has the Amazon app as bloat I'm going to install it today.
EDIT: Going back to Oreo as Substratum doesn't work without root.
Has anyone affected managed to do a full reset ?