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[Q] Usb Otg not working on Kindle Fire HD.

Please help. I have done a through search of the forums and found nothing on the subject. (Any search including "otg" returns results for "ota" updates.) The ability to use a flash drive as a kind of external hard drive was a MAJOR reason I rooted and installed a non-stock os. I have a Kindle Fire HD running twrp, cm10.2 and hashcode's 3.0.50+ kernel. I have tried both the "stickdrive" and "USB OTG Helper" apps with no luck. I was told in another thread that some ROMs will support USB OTG mounting but when I asked which ones I didn't get a response.
Thank you in advance.

Last I heard hashcode hasn't enabled otg in his kernel yet, and I think all ROMs use his kernel except stock amazon and kinology. You should wait for some other people to verify what I said first though because I am not 100% sure on this.
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stunts513 said:
Last I heard hashcode hasn't enabled otg in his kernel yet, and I think all ROMs use his kernel except stock amazon and kinology. You should wait for some other people to verify what I said first though because I am not 100% sure on this.
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What is "kinology"? I'd be willing to try it out and update as to the results if I knew where to download it.

Its in the android development section, but it uses the same kernel as stock amazon os, its basically Amazon's os, but modded.
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stunts513 said:
Its in the android development section, but it uses the same kernel as stock amazon os, its basically Amazon's os, but modded.
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I tried both of the apps I mentioned before I rooted/modded my KFHD with no luck. So, do I just need to wait till KitKat and CM11 come out?

Or just wait until hashcode gets otg working. I think he was going to work on otg after all the other bugs and such are worked out. Seems like waiting for cm 11 to have otg would take longer than waiting for the current version, because I'm guessing the new version will have a new kernel so some things will have to be redone, and bugs introduced. Personally I'm just hoping by the time the next android release is out we can still use a buggy flashplayer... Don't even get me started on that....
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stunts513 said:
Or just wait until hashcode gets otg working. I think he was going to work on otg after all the other bugs and such are worked out. ..."some things will have to be redone, and bugs introduced." ...we can still use a "buggy" flashplayer.
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Forgive me, why would one want to introduce bugs into a system?, and what is a "buggy" flash player? I thought bugs were glitches. Do you mean exploits?
Also, why do you use CM10.1? Is it more stable than CM10.2?

Eh well you don't want to introduce bugs into a system it just tends to happen when making something new while ironing the new problems out. That's why official releases of an os have these things fixed first usually before final release, though we tend to use alpha and beta ROMs a lot because some of us would rather have a buggy os than a amazon os. Not that hashcode's cm is that buggy anymore, he's worked out almost all the bugs I think. As for the buggy flash player, adobe stopped development a while back for flash player in ice cream sandwich, because they said html5 would be the future, even though so much of the net uses flash... Anyways the last flash player for ICS is kinda buggy on jellybean OS's, mainly because it wasn't designed for it, and some web browsers won't let u use the last version of flash because its buggy, like dolphin unless you download the modded version of the browser I found on the forums. One of the bugs I noticed is if I tap around in a video player too much it crashes the web browser. So no not exploits, just code that needs rewriting but will never happen since flash players is closed source. Ah as for me using cm 10.1, I just want to wait a few months until I'm sure that the apps in the market have stabilized, among other things, because some apps were having problems after the changes made in the new release caused certain apps to not work correctly. There's also a few other reasons like I heard about some of the libraries for the new version aren't optimized yet for our processor, and that there was a nasty bug with fstrim that could potentially hard brick our kindle by corrupting the emmc beyond repair. The bug that could do that isn't confirmed in the kindle fire HD, but it is said to affect the specific emmc that the kindle fire HD has. So yea there are a few things I'm waiting on before making the switch. Not to mention I'm happy with my os as-is right now.
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stunts513 said:
Ah as for me using cm 10.1, I just want to wait a few months until I'm sure that the apps in the market have stabilized, among other things, because some apps were having problems after the changes made in the new release caused certain apps to not work correctly. There's also a few other reasons like I heard about some of the libraries for the new version aren't optimized yet for our processor, and that there was a nasty bug with fstrim that could potentially hard brick our kindle by corrupting the emmc beyond repair. The bug that could do that isn't confirmed in the kindle fire HD, but it is said to affect the specific emmc that the kindle fire HD has. So yea there are a few things I'm waiting on before making the switch. Not to mention I'm happy with my os as-is right now.
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I hate to ask, but I'm still new to XDA and I'm still having a bit of trouble navigating. Would you post a link to where I can find CM10.1? Specifically the one meant for our KFTT? Thanks.

Here ya go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245335
If you want, try the tablet ui patch in my signature for the latest cm 10.1, I haven't had much feedback on it. It also contains the same link I just posted.
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stunts513 said:
Here ya go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245335
If you want, try the tablet ui patch in my signature for the latest cm 10.1, I haven't had much feedback on it. It also contains the same link I just posted.
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So... I would use the "Latest"? And how would I go about implementing your tablet ui?
Sorry to keep bugging you. I feel like I'm being a bother.

The instructions are on the link in my SIG, u basically flash the file I attached after u flash cm and gapps, and yea use the latest.
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stunts513 said:
The instructions are on the link in my SIG, u basically flash the file I attached after u flash cm and gapps, and yea use the latest.
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Thank you. I appreciate the help.

Still no OTG
JeremySwagS said:
I tried both of the apps I mentioned before I rooted/modded my KFHD with no luck. So, do I just need to wait till KitKat and CM11 come out?
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Well CM11 is out and still no OTG support for Kindle Fire HD. I sure wish that I could get this to work. I just don't know where to start.

New member here. I have the same problem -- KFHD7, CM11, no OTG. Did you ever figure this out?
Thanks.
-L
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Beaker319 said:
Well CM11 is out and still no OTG support for Kindle Fire HD. I sure wish that I could get this to work. I just don't know where to start.
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To JeremySwags and Breaker319,
Did you guys ever figure this out? I'm ready to pitch this thing...
-L

[Q] I have a 2013 (11.3.1.0) KFHD and a fastboot cable. Can I flash a custom ROM now?

I know that the bootloader is locked on the 2013 KFHD and we're currently waiting for a workaround for that. And we also need TWRP which has not been recompiled for the 2013 KFHD.
However, I have a fastboot cable. I don't necessarily need TWRP nor do I have to wait for the bootloader to be fixed, correct? If I am correct in my assumption, can someone provide me with some resources as to how I might be able to get something like CM11 working on my KFHD? Or is there some sort of dev IRC channel that I can go to for help? I have extensive experience with C/C++ and the unix environment, so I don't need a noob-friendly tutorial.
Thanks.

cheesylard said:
I know that the bootloader is locked on the 2013 KFHD and we're currently waiting for a workaround for that. And we also need TWRP which has not been recompiled for the 2013 KFHD.
However, I have a fastboot cable. I don't necessarily need TWRP nor do I have to wait for the bootloader to be fixed, correct? If I am correct in my assumption, can someone provide me with some resources as to how I might be able to get something like CM11 working on my KFHD? Or is there some sort of dev IRC channel that I can go to for help? I have extensive experience with C/C++ and the unix environment, so I don't need a noob-friendly tutorial.
Thanks.
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There is many threads in this forum for fast boot KFHD you can search by CM11 or C/C++. Hope you will find what you were looking for....

You can't right now. There are no exploits for the bootloader.
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LinearEquation said:
You can't right now. There are no exploits for the bootloader.
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Doesn't having a fastboot cable get rid of the need for an unlocked bootloader? It's used for recovery, right? So in theory I could just flash any image I want to the device.

cheesylard said:
Doesn't having a fastboot cable get rid of the need for an unlocked bootloader? It's used for recovery, right? So in theory I could just flash any image I want to the device.
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No you can't do that. The images have to be specific and there has to be an exploit to unlock the bootloader or in the case of most of the Kindle series, flash a 2nd bootloader. It sounds good but it won't work. Until an exploit is found the only thing that could maybe be flashed are signed images from Amazon made specifically to flash through fastboot. I don't see them putting them on the open market anytime soon.

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No you can't do that. The images have to be specific and there has to be an exploit to unlock the bootloader or in the case of most of the Kindle series, flash a 2nd bootloader. It sounds good but it won't work. Until an exploit is found the only thing that could maybe be flashed are signed images from Amazon made specifically to flash through fastboot. I don't see them putting them on the open market anytime soon.
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Ah, so the images have to be signed... that sucks. Thanks for the explanation. I guess I'll just wait for an exploit like everyone else

cheesylard said:
Ah, so the images have to be signed... that sucks. Thanks for the explanation. I guess I'll just wait for an exploit like everyone else
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ROMs are built for specific hardware too. The Fire HD 2012 and the Fire HD 2013 vastly different hardware wise.
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Ph0enix_216 said:
ROMs are built for specific hardware too. The Fire HD 2012 and the Fire HD 2013 vastly different hardware wise.
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Is anybody actively working on roms for the 2013 KFHD 7"? Do we have anything like an ETA?

fivelon said:
Is anybody actively working on roms for the 2013 KFHD 7"? Do we have anything like an ETA?
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I'm pretty sure we'd need an exploit before people would be able to start working on ROMs, but I may be wrong.

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I'm pretty sure we'd need an exploit before people would be able to start working on ROMs, but I may be wrong.
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Yeah, you're correct.

:good: lol

[Q] will kindle fire hd 7/ tate get otg support?

just wondering whether the kindle fire hd 7 will get otg support, i know that most roms run hashcodes kernel and that it doesnt support it. I'm not demanding it or anything, i just want to know if its being considered? or in development? thanks. I want it for usb storage and controllers haha

luigirocks said:
just wondering whether the kindle fire hd 7 will get otg support, i know that most roms run hashcodes kernel and that it doesnt support it. I'm not demanding it or anything, i just want to know if its being considered? or in development? thanks. I want it for usb storage and controllers haha
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I heard a while back that it was coming soon but, well.... that was quite a while ago.
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Once I get my ROM rolled out I might try to compile a kernel with it enabled, as-is I don't have enough storage space available on my Linux partition to download the cm sources and I've messed with the innerds a little bit for my ROM so I'd rather go from hashcode's sources.
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stunts513 said:
Once I get my ROM rolled out I might try to compile a kernel with it enabled, as-is I don't have enough storage space available on my Linux partition to download the cm sources and I've messed with the innerds a little bit for my ROM so I'd rather go from hashcode's sources.
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I hope its soon I can't wait for otg support!

Kindle Fire HD (newest model)

just got mine 4 days ago...
i want to root it and install a decent Android os (e.g. CyanogenMod)
waht is the easyiest way ?
i read a few threads hear but i am kinda confused
a link to the most decent FQ and Guide will be apreciatet !
THX

First off, there are no modifications available (besides rooting) for the newer Kindle Fire HD. Secondly, you posted in the wrong section. You should have posted under the 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A section.
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Thread moved.

ok sorry..
but if i rooted the device i can install an alternative ROM
e.g. cyanogen

missbender said:
ok sorry..
but if i rooted the device i can install an alternative ROM
e.g. cyanogen
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nope, we haven't been able to crack the bootloader on the 2013 kindle fire hd, no custom roms available for it, sorry.

[Q]porting linux in multyboot

I have a question it's possible port a linux (in multyboot) like ubuntu or fedora to this devices? like the nexus 7 in this case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957561
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
thanke and exuseme for my bad english

Well as far as Ubuntu touch yes it is possible, hashcode made some test ports for us, but they excluded the 7" model. I was going to try it myself but he mentioned when the flipped it to android in Ubuntu instead of Ubuntu in android it caused a filesystem mounting error or something and since he said it would have to be debugged first I went and ported something else.
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excuse me, I've another question , is this app work in the Kfhd (tale)? I cant get a factory cable and I wouden't brick my kindle
sorry for my bad english

I would assume it works, I have never tried it personally. If you have 2nd bootloader + twrp installed then even if it bricked it you could still restore it.
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stunts513 said:
I would assume it works, I have never tried it personally. If you have 2nd bootloader + twrp installed then even if it bricked it you could still restore it.
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I try it in the last cm 11 nignt but he need a loop kernel. And it don't work? there are a loop kernel for the tale?

You mean a kernel with loopback device support? I thought the cm 11 kernel had that, that's pretty standard in terms of a desktop Linux is, not sure about a android device though.
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