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Like alot of people said in other posts I am experiencing not being able to get into recovery mode via the 3 button combo.when it comes to rooting I was wondering how important it was. I'm new to android and unless I'm not mistaken, there are other methods to rooting.however I'm more concerned if something goes wrong, I want to make sure I can get things back to normal and not be bricked. Also, when the froyo update comes out I'm going to want to revert to stock. To people who are experienced at rooting, how necessary is it. If it is I will return it, but I'm worried the one I will get will have gps issues and so far mine has been lucky enough to have gps work almost flawlessly.
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GPS won't be flawless for long, it is flakey, known everywhere. It works sometimes and dosen't others.
Nerz said:
Like alot of people said in other posts I am experiencing not being able to get into recovery mode via the 3 button combo.when it comes to rooting I was wondering how important it was. I'm new to android and unless I'm not mistaken, there are other methods to rooting.however I'm more concerned if something goes wrong, I want to make sure I can get things back to normal and not be bricked. Also, when the froyo update comes out I'm going to want to revert to stock. To people who are experienced at rooting, how necessary is it. If it is I will return it, but I'm worried the one I will get will have gps issues and so far mine has been lucky enough to have gps work almost flawlessly.
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i personally dont know how necessary it is but, all i know is you can side load apps like roms so u can play the emulators they have such as sega genesis and what not. also you will be able to get the apps we normally cant get in the android market such as: super mario wallpaper, tethering, and many other 3rd party apps that are available that we cannot get. i dont know all of them. but comming from a jailbroken iphone jailbreaking the captivate is way more difficult. android is not as user friendly when it comes to the technical geek stuff. my captivate is a week old now
but i think you should wait on the froyo then wait to see if they come out with a one click root method for 2.2, which they probally will. i was close to rooting mine but it seems a little bothersome to convert it back to stock. so i would just hold off till froyo
Yea, I'm just thinking I should than exchange my cappy for one that will go into recovery mode via the button combo.I'm not very experienced in rooting but from what I understand if you can't you have more of a chance in bricking the phone. Not sure though.
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Nerz said:
Yea, I'm just thinking I should than exchange my cappy for one that will go into recovery mode via the button combo.I'm not very experienced in rooting but from what I understand if you can't you have more of a chance in bricking the phone. Not sure though.
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I just replaced my cappy today. Went to the AT&T store and got it right away. The new one still can't boot into recovery mode via the button combo. So, its up to you. I say its worth a shot.
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I just replaced my cappy today. Went to the AT&T store and got it right away. The new one still can't boot into recovery mode via the button combo. So, its up to you. I say its worth a shot.
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Yea see that's the other problem, there's so many people that mes up doing a root. I hope they come out with a more stable root system when froyo roils around.
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Tchem said:
Yea see that's the other problem, there's so many people that mes up doing a root. I hope they come out with a more stable root system when froyo roils around.
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I didnt brick my phone while root. I accidentally pulled the battery when my phone was rebooting from removing the lag fix.
As of right now, there are many root methods provided and all of them work flawlessly (provided you follow directions).
Tchem said:
Yea see that's the other problem, there's so many people that mes up doing a root. I hope they come out with a more stable root system when froyo roils around.
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Nope, not worth s shot, if you can't boot into recovery, how do you plan to apply the root, you need recovery mode for this. Unless you plan to use ADB everytime. Eventually your phone will brick without being able to use the key combo method. To me it isn't worth taking the chance.
Nerz said:
Like alot of people said in other posts I am experiencing not being able to get into recovery mode via the 3 button combo.when it comes to rooting I was wondering how important it was. I'm new to android and unless I'm not mistaken, there are other methods to rooting.however I'm more concerned if something goes wrong, I want to make sure I can get things back to normal and not be bricked. Also, when the froyo update comes out I'm going to want to revert to stock. To people who are experienced at rooting, how necessary is it. If it is I will return it, but I'm worried the one I will get will have gps issues and so far mine has been lucky enough to have gps work almost flawlessly.
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get a new one. i just replaced mine for a new one. took me going to 3 different stores trying a total of 9 captivates to find one that the 3 buttons worked. you will NEED that if you get bricked. i would HIGHLY suggest not flashing anything unless you do it. if you have any other questions feel free to pm me, i can give you my speech i gave.
best of luck sir!
xtremekilla09 said:
I just replaced my cappy today. Went to the AT&T store and got it right away. The new one still can't boot into recovery mode via the button combo. So, its up to you. I say its worth a shot.
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i stood there, told me the store manager i would like to keep trying the other phones. since a sim card is not needed for the phone to boot to recovery it will not void their "warrenty pre sim card"
like i said in above post 3 stores and 9 captivates
Yea I guess I should exchange it. Hopefully it won't take abunch of phones to get one that will, and if it does, hopefully they will let me test til I get it right. Anyone know if this is just something samsung just started on later date phones that were made to stop people from trying to root? I'm not sure how phone companies view phone rooting.
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Nerz said:
Yea I guess I should exchange it. Hopefully it won't take abunch of phones to get one that will, and if it does, hopefully they will let me test til I get it right. Anyone know if this is just something samsung just started on later date phones that were made to stop people from trying to root? I'm not sure how phone companies view phone rooting.
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It's your phone, why should they care if you modified it? Void warranty maybe. Otherwise, why use open sourcing?
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Nerz said:
Yea I guess I should exchange it. Hopefully it won't take abunch of phones to get one that will, and if it does, hopefully they will let me test til I get it right. Anyone know if this is just something samsung just started on later date phones that were made to stop people from trying to root? I'm not sure how phone companies view phone rooting.
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Yes, definitely exchange your phone. Also, I would test this function in store until you get one that works. From what I have read, it seems like there was a bunch of phone made during the week of 8-10-2010 thru about 8-14-2010 that had a hardware defect. There's another thread in the boards somewhere that people who can't use 3 button recovery post their build dates, and all so far fell into that build week.
I wouldn't even begin to mod my phone if I didn't have access to recovery or download mode by using buttons. If you rely on adb you are out of luck if you soft brick it.
Of course I'm going to try to test in store. How do I check the news manufacturing date?
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Nerz said:
Of course I'm going to try to test in store. How do I check the news manufacturing date?
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Not sure, but I'll find the post for you. I did notice that on my Battery there is a date of 07-04-2010. I know that's a battery date, but maybe it helps.
Nerz said:
Of course I'm going to try to test in store. How do I check the news manufacturing date?
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Here's the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8082249&postcount=16
go to the phone keypad, dial *#*#197328640#*#* from there it will pull the service menu, go to Version Info, SW Version, READ ALL SW VERSION
Mine by the way shows RF Cal Date of 07-11-2010.
My rf cal date is 8 14 2010
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Nerz said:
My rf cal date is 8 14 2010
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Wow, that falls into the date range of the others I've seen.
So ive now returned that faulty cappy, and have one that will goto into recovery mode. Although, the gps definitely,seems as if it won't even get a fix. Oh well I guess if the problem is software ill wait for the update. Also it could be me, but it definitely seems more laggy then before, especially the back button.
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Yep, gps is mostly broken right now.
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My Zio has a mind of its own! Force closes! Goes back! Google search! Menu options! And all while it lays flat on my desk, or my nightstand, countertop, anywhere. But only between 55%-85% battery. PLEASE HELP!
Now I'm so broke i can't even pay attention!
Now it just boots up, shuts off, boots up, shuts off. Its basically a landline smartphone cause I can only use it if the charger is plugged in, like right now. All the pages and pages on rooting but very few out there to fix lil problems while rooted. Feel like rolling my window down on the freeway and toss this zio out, THEN ILL HAVE TO BUY SOMETHING ELSE! That'll sure fix the problems above. Unless anybody's got a lil advice that would help me out?
Now I'm so broke i can't even pay attention!
Have you dropped the phone? The reason I asked is that my buddy brought over a HTC Droid incredible and it has similar problems after it was dropped...I rooted it and flashed a few different roms and some of the problems diminished but didn't go away...what rom are you using?
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Dropped, yes, 2hrs after I first bought it over a year ago. But this has recently started happening, like yesterday and today. I am rooted but not rom-ed (hu, I said rom-ed). I'm too scared to change rom's cause I'm still researching how to do it.
Now I'm so broke i can't even pay attention!
Hmm.. well I would try flashing the open zip rom and see what that does for ya...its not hard to do that, maybe that will help. Other than that i dunno. I've done some tweeking on the open zip rom for my girlfriend and daughter, haven't done any theming for it besides some uot kitchen work, but have been able to apply alot of various build. prop tweeks and some other tweeks that seemed to help with battery life.
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Not to take this thread off topic but do you mind sharing your tweaks?
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Mattix724 said:
Not to take this thread off topic but do you mind sharing your tweaks?
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There mostly from developer KNZO, he's got a list of build.prop and init.d tweaks.. he's done alot of developing for the optimus p500, I think he's developing for the optimus black now...anyways, most of his tweaks are now standard for custom roms for the p500&p509.. so i tryed to incorporate them into the Sanyo zio.
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So I think I want to root this thing but I would like to know the do's and donts before rooting what to stray away from and some orecausions so I don't end up with a pretty paper weight!!!
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There is a newbie guide on the first page of the bionic general forum that has everything you will need to know and links.
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Just follow my guide, take your time, and you'll be fine. It's not that big of a deal. I'm working on a guide to restoring so if you want to back out you'll be covered.
Rooting in particular is really easy because of the hard work of p3 and dhacker. Plug in phone and run a script. Can't mess it up.
Charge your battery!
bfitzpatrickd2d said:
So I think I want to root this thing but I would like to know the do's and donts before rooting what to stray away from and some orecausions so I don't end up with a pretty paper weight!!!
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Don't delete anything. To de-bloat, use Titanium Backup to freeze apps instead. That way you can restore them before accepting an OTA. Sometimes they check.
I was going to post a link to a page that has a good list of bloatware that's safe to freeze, but the forum won't let me post links.
Also, make a nandroid backup before you change anything.
Good luck!
What about being on. 901 root possibly I am more or less referring to flashing rom and bootloader stuff on what precausions that way
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Anyone;??
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tuckmobile said:
Charge your battery!
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I can't stress this enough. If your battery is low (say 20% or less) Recovery WILL NOT WORK (at least in my experience.) Plug your Bionic into a wall charger (not USB) and let it charge fully. Be patient and just let it charge. Once fully-charged, have at it.
I don't know if it's possible to truly "brick" a Bionic, but I have gotten into a couple boot loops that scared the heck out of me. I was able to recover cleanly each time, but in both cases, I had to charge to over 40% in order for it to sustain the recovery process.
Oh, and backup. Titanium Backup rocks. Be sure to back up.
bfitzpatrickd2d said:
What about being on. 901 root possibly I am more or less referring to flashing rom and bootloader stuff on what precausions that way
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Just follow the noob guide mentioned above. Its stickied in the general section. It'll get you on 901 rooted and gives you a selection of 3 roms compatible with 901. Read through some of the posts too. I'm not sure what else you are looking for.
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More or less do and don't to not brick my bionic my charge was pretty much unbrickablr
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You can soft brick the bionic. But i have yet to hear about or experience a hard brick.
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I've had my note since December last year and absolutely love usingit. I came from a HTC Desire and I only rooted it out of necessity (the keyboard broke it beyond unrooted repair). But I've been thinking hard about rooting the note I havent seen a need to yet but I get this niggling feeling I'm missing out but I dont want to lose the samsung apps like s memo and planner (unless there are viable alternatives). So xda I put it to you, convice me
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Serj Alexandrov said:
I've had my note since December last year and absolutely love usingit. I came from a HTC Desire and I only rooted it out of necessity (the keyboard broke it beyond unrooted repair). But I've been thinking hard about rooting the note I havent seen a need to yet but I get this niggling feeling I'm missing out but I dont want to lose the samsung apps like s memo and planner (unless there are viable alternatives). So xda I put it to you, convice me
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Go ahead root your phone and you would be open to a plethora of options and tweaks you can do with your phone. And rooting does not remove any of the apps. In fact rooting lets you remove the apps, if you so choose, which you don't need and are built into the system and you can't uninstall them from the manage applications tab under settings of your phone. And many many many more things. The best you can backup your entire rom and just in case anything go wrong or you not liking anything you can anytime restore to the original state your phone was in when you created the backup !
Cheers!
Thanks for the advice, part of me expected someone to come along and just say "if you don't have root Y U ON XDA" but i must say that all your points are very convincing and i will probably root it tonight hopefully i wont **** it up
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Serj Alexandrov said:
Thanks for the advice, part of me expected someone to come along and just say "if you don't have root Y U ON XDA" but i must say that all your points are very convincing and i will probably root it tonight hopefully i wont **** it up
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You should also get a Custom ROM. Most of them still have the Samsung apps.
If you ask if you should root, then don't root. You should only root if you have a good reason.
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Dude for real get a cuatom rom example "CheckRom V6"
All apps is there +your root ;-)
And its much more perfect then any stock ;-)
My phone is CheckRomV6 + Franco kernel.
Make your phone be a pro.
Hey,
Well I got my N7 yesterday and played around with it and all in all I think that it's a good tablet with 4.2.1. I find it to be slow sometimes when I am typing fast or using chrome.
If I did decide to root could I backup my device before I do so I can just restore and carry on like nothing has changed.
What are the advantages of rooting the N7, I know I can speed it up and delete stock apps.
Would appreciate it if someone helped me out.
Also if I do root can someone post
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So that its a good idea to root then, can I backup before I root so I can carry on from normal?
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I suggest that you learn what is root access and what you can do with it before doing so, rooting is not a goal, but the means to an end.
What I usually tell anyone who asks this question is: Do it if you need root access for something specific (can be as insignificant as one app). And if you need to ask without knowing if you have to root, then the answer is no until you understand what it is you're doing.
Edit: Do some research on root access and it's benefits/drawbacks and Nexus factory restore images to put your mind at ease on rolling back to stock. Having root access in and out of itself is harmless, what the user chooses to do with that can be dangerous, especially if what they are looking to do is delete system files.
Edit 2: Assuming that you are using stock firmware, I have heard of slowdowns caused by Google currents and its background sync. Try turning off the background sync and see if that helps with your issues.
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Spunkiest said:
So that its a good idea to root then, can I backup before I root so I can carry on from normal?
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Don't just do something just to do it. Rooting alone will add nothing to your device or its performance. Rooting allows access to areas of the operating system for apps that require it, but these are generally limited to backup apps and those that modify certain settings. It also makes a device more vulnerable to some serious problems if done wrong or if you misuse an app that has root access. If you are unsure, best to leave it alone until you know what the benefits are exactly and whether or not you need it. BTW, rooting will void your warranty on most devices and unless you understand how to recover from a problem and return your device to stock in the event you need warranty service or exchange, I would stay away from it.
I was also thinking of rooting with the Nexus Root Kit. And i also saw that you have an option to "Flash Stock+Unroot" has anybody tried this toolkit ?
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ROOTING is a NECESSITY!!!
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meh, like others said, only root if there is something you need and to those that say you dont lose anything thats a tad wrong, some apps check for root and dont let you run them. There are apps that hide the root but from personal experience they dont always work for everything.
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Brandon Simion Sebok said:
I was also thinking of rooting with the Nexus Root Kit. And i also saw that you have an option to "Flash Stock+Unroot" has anybody tried this toolkit ?
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I tried it. I unlocked and rooted my N7 with it and I also flashed stock and unrooted it, because something went wrong and I had to do it (that mistake was made by me, not by the program). Everything went very good and fast, I recommend it (it's your choice to use a toolkit or not), but read everything carefully!
Of course all of this depends on what you want to do with the device after root. There is no point if you want to stick custom ROMs on it as being a nexus device it will constantly be updated. Only if you require root access to a specific application should you root the device. But also take into consideration if it is worth it. If it is for a minor improvement then you have the potential to brick the device and void warrenty for nothing. Only do it if there is a genuine need.
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I tried it. I unlocked and rooted my N7 with it and I also flashed stock and unrooted it, because something went wrong and I had to do it (that mistake was made by me, not by the program). Everything went very good and fast, I recommend it (it's your choice to use a toolkit or not), but read everything carefully!
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Thanks a million i was hesitating , but if you say it works great , I'll take your word
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Is there any way to backup all my app and games ( with all my progress I have made) before unlocking the boothloader?
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AngryGamer025 said:
Is there any way to backup all my app and games ( with all my progress I have made) before unlocking the boothloader?
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In a word, no. Titanium Backup will not even run on an unrooted device. Other backup apps may run on an unrooted device, but you will not be able to restore data from them if you are not rooted, only the actual apps. You need to first unlock the bootloader to root a Nexus 7.
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Brandon Simion Sebok said:
Thanks a million i was hesitating , but if you say it works great , I'll take your word
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So you decided to take the advice of people who have been here months over that of others who have been here years. Good for you!:good:
I know I've been here only for one year, but I learnt many useful things. I tried this program and it works great, I recommend it, but only if you need something fast and simple and you don't want to learn anything. You can do it the hard way to discover something new, right? It's his choice after all, isn't it?
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ROOTING is a NECESSITY!!!
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+1
Not for everyone though.
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Brandon Simion Sebok said:
I was also thinking of rooting with the Nexus Root Kit. And i also saw that you have an option to "Flash Stock+Unroot" has anybody tried this toolkit ?
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I don't advocate against the use of toolkits myself (as I've used even used them on my own N7), but I would at least urge you to understand what it is you're doing before you do it. And by that I don't mean knowing enough to manually input every command, just know enough to understand why you're doing something and have a general idea of how it is accomplished.
Trust me, learning a little bit before using the automated route saves you and everyone else a lot of crying and hand holding over simple matters if something ever goes wrong.
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I don't advocate against the use of toolkits myself (as I've used even used them on my own N7), but I would at least urge you to understand what it is you're doing before you do it. And by that I don't mean knowing enough to manually input every command, just know enough to understand why you're doing something and have a general idea of how it is accomplished.
Trust me, learning a little bit before using the automated route saves you and everyone else a lot of crying and hand holding over simple matters if something ever goes wrong.
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Yep, certainly. It's nothing wrong in learning something, it won't hurt anybody.
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I don't advocate against the use of toolkits myself (as I've used even used them on my own N7), but I would at least urge you to understand what it is you're doing before you do it. And by that I don't mean knowing enough to manually input every command, just know enough to understand why you're doing something and have a general idea of how it is accomplished.
Trust me, learning a little bit before using the automated route saves you and everyone else a lot of crying and hand holding over simple matters if something ever goes wrong.
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Yep agreed. As someone that's done it the hard way too many times I can't wait to use a toolkit when i get this device. Lol
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littleemp said:
Trust me, learning a little bit before using the automated route saves you and everyone else a lot of crying and hand holding over simple matters if something ever goes wrong.
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This guy gets it.
Just root as soon as possible and be done with it and never look back.
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Yeah, go ahead and root it. What could possibly go wrong?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080183