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What US network are you on if you have unlocked note?

I saw a deal for an unlocked "world" version of the note and I am on TmoUS. So if I buy the note, will I be able to use my unlimited data plan with 3g or H? I am confused reading the forums on the att side and this one...they're saying I can only get edge? Because that would really suck.
I'm on tapatalk and can't do a decent search on xda via app so if this had been asked already, just point me to that thread and I will gladly have this one deleted. Also, the desire to get the unlocked note is a spur of the moment kinda thing since the deal is only available for one day. Btw, unlocked note is selling for 585 with shipping from 1saleaday.
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what they said is right you will only get edge speeds on tmobile with the inter.. Note...If you use AT&T then its no big deal.

I am also on tmo. I found an article that says you can run tmo hspa+ on att note so I'm going to try and trade line on Craigslist. Edge is killing me man.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.

skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?

whocares2k7 said:
Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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that depends on the frequency of the 3g network in your area.
however, this is the first I've seen it mentioned that American t mobile has any other 3g bands than 700mhz.
So I'd say no, you most likely will not get 3g speeds.

The N7000 will only run on T-Mobile edge. If you want 4g you have to AT&T or Straight Talk.

This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.

Well, EDGE is downright terrible...no one can argue that. If you want to use T-Mobile, you're better off getting the AT-T note, unlocking it, then installing the right modem files to use it on 3g/4g. I use T-Mobile myself, and decided to keep the Int. version...I think it's better, and the development community is WAY better, mainly because the device has been out longer. It's up to you really. Don't hope T-Mobile will be updating it's 1900mhz spectrum in your area anytime soon...it's a process I'm sure will take many years.

ubermetroid said:
This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.

chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?

smalmagal said:
I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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Yes they do number porting as long as it is not a at&t number because straight talk uses at&t network.

It sucks that it is more difficult to get the inter version to work on 3g or h on tmo. I did read that the inter version is better than att version and I do believe that development will be better with the inter version as it obviously covers more countries and it has been out longer. I really want this note but I'm just gonna wait a bit. I have a feeling those guys working on getting tmo to work on inter version will be able to do it. Wishful thinking probably but it is possible with all the talented devs out there. I guess I'm going to be on sensation for a while until tmo comes up with a phone as awesome as the note. Thanks for all the responses!!
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Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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kotaro_14 said:
Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Noob question...how can I check? Are you getting 3g with tmo now?
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chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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FYI and I have heard of this issue before, Straight Talk gets varied reception in Metropolitian areas. Let me explain.
I have had ST for a few months now, on the NT7000. I have had zero issues.
A couple of caveats
DO NOT use more than 100mb/day or 2gb/month, whichever comes first. People have had their contracts terminated by ST for doing this. So not truly unlimited (but still more than decent deal). This is not a *hard* limit- I have done more without any issues by accident.
I get decent service in the suburb of NYC where I live (few tall buildings), actually much better service than Tmobile had.
However, in NYC itself, the service can be absolutely horrible depending on area. My guess for this phenomenon is that while you are on an ATT MVNO, this doesn't necessarily mean that you have the same roaming rights as regular ATT customers. In a metro area, roaming might be necessary to get signal in certain places.
My download speeds at 2gb down 1 up.
I would just buy a months' worth at first and try it out as prepaid, then port your number in.
From what I understand, you don't even need to buy the e71 like I did anymore

skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Which areas in Philly? I live in Philly but only manage to ever get Edge speeds on mine.

I use RedPocket. It's a MVNO of AT&T ....
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!

so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?

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so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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I do. I got it with the SGS II and ow with the Note. up to 3mbs download. Good enough. MediaNet is $10 a month unlimited, I don't use nearly 2GB maybe less than 1 as I am in WiFi most of the time. I am using a Cingular.wap setting. Its different than the "smartphone" APN but the speeds are the same (until LTE is available) I don't need LTE speeds on a phone. I don't even get those speeds at home on cable. maybe 7Mbs DL.

thinking about switching from Sprint to Verizon

I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Verizon and what phone features didn't you have with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching if Verizon is so stripped down you can't use the phones.

You'll lose unlimited data. You've been with Sprint for 13 years now, are they not providing good service in your area? Be aware that later this year Sprint will be adding voice carriers on 800Mhz which will greatly increase your voice coverage. Later on they will be adding LTE carrier(s) on 800Mhz as well as part of network vision 2.0 which will greatly increase LTE coverage as well.
But if big red can offer better service for your needs then that will clearly be the better, more expensive, option.
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With Verizon, you'll likely experience slower updates and a couple extra hoops to flash custom ROMs.
If Verizon didn't screw me over in the past, then I'd probably give them a chance again since in my area, they offer the best coverage for data.

mrzood said:
You'll lose unlimited data. You've been with Sprint for 13 years now, are they not providing good service in your area? Be aware that later this year Sprint will be adding voice carriers on 800Mhz which will greatly increase your voice coverage. Later on they will be adding LTE carrier(s) on 800Mhz as well as part of network vision 2.0 which will greatly increase LTE coverage as well.
But if big red can offer better service for your needs then that will clearly be the better, more expensive, option.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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bndfishing said:
I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Verizon and what phone features didn't you have with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching if Verizon is so stripped down you can't use the phones.
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Google Maps Navigation is a app from Google, Verizon can't stop you from using it. If you want Visual Voice mail just download something like Google voice.
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GiantJay said:
Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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Google Maps Navigation is a app from Google, Verizon can't stop you from using it. If you want Visual Voice mail just download something like Google voice.
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I've heard radio technicians rave about att, but I don't care. They still are the evil empire IMO.

GiantJay said:
Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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Care to elaborate on what makes Verizons' radio technology so much better than Sprints'? Why do you think AWS is going to be great? If it's any indication from T-Mobile, AWS has absolutely terrible building penetration in metro areas. I don't deny that Verizon has a decent network, I used to use them for my carrier. When they started the tiered data plans and only letting you grandfather unlimited plans by paying for the FULL price of a phone, they started feeling too anti-consumer to me so I left. Having to worry about how much data I use in 2013 is awfully draconian.
We get that Sprints' legacy network is old, slow, and overloaded. Network Vision is replacing EVERY site with new hardware and backhaul. Even 1x only sites will get the full Network Vision treatment(800Mhz CDMA/LTE and 1900Mhz CDMA/LTE). With that said, I've NEVER had one issue with voice coverage with Sprint, only slow data in metro areas. /anecdote
With 800Mhz 1xAdvance/LTE on the horizon, Sprint will be even better.

I've been with Sprint for a while... I 1/2 thought about changing to Verizon this year when my contract was up (I HATE AT&T so I won't switch to them) but honestly it wasn't worth it for me. I have unlimited data, my coverage has been very good. Yes I only have 3g, but for what I use my phone for most of the time, it's fine (I don't surf the web much on my phone or watch Youtube, so...). They are also in the process of putting 4g in my area, although it will probably be a while before it is complete. I also get a discount though work with Sprint so it would cost me a lot more to go to Verizon. Every time I have had to call Sprint Customer Service they have been very helpful (which is only a few times).
In the end, it just wasn't worth it for me to switch.

You'll lose unlimited there customer service sucks there phones are so bloated and have locked bootloaders your Better off going with tmobile it is about the same price as sprint and there hspa+ network is as fast or faster than Lte and it is all ready nation wide.
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Same thing happend to me so I left vzw.
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It all depends on your area to what carrier to go with. That's why they have a 14 day period to cancel service. Ask friends and family about different providers and check out the sensorly app in the Play store for real coverage.
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GiantJay said:
It all depends on your area to what carrier to go with. That's why they have a 14 day period to cancel service. Ask friends and family about different providers and check out the sensorly app in the Play store for real coverage.
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Unfortunately if you're using an EVO lte the coverage map means nothing because I rarely get 4g where the map says I should have 2 bars. Even with airplane mode toggle I still can't pick it up. I usually use my wife's turd viper to check and almost always she has it. When I do have lte my wife's viper still gets better speeds. That's probably my main reason for getting s4 over the one because it's supposed to have the same problems. That's probably the biggest plus for the plastic over aluminum.
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optimummind said:
With Verizon, you'll likely experience slower updates and a couple extra hoops to flash custom ROMs.
If Verizon didn't screw me over in the past, then I'd probably give them a chance again since in my area, they offer the best coverage for data.
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OMG, this & you can say bye bye to your unlimited plan, locked bootloader, terrible customer service. Verizon is just a big headache. They gave me horrible nightmares.

GiantJay said:
Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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To be fair, going by history, they'll probably push the AWS software enable update to their S4 about 9 months after the AWS launch and have a 500Mb data cap.

Currently (and will PROBABLY stay a Sprint customer), however, as for 800MHz LTE, as far as I know, there's no current phones that will be able to take advantage of that once it becomes available (unless Sprint is planning something similar for the S4 and they just haven't advertised it yet). 800MHz for voice will work for virtually everyone... but no phone out there right now is going to see an improvement data-wise from that spectrum. Pretty sure they announced at CTIA that only the new phones coming later this year will be able to take advantage of it.

I personally moved away from Sprint even with having LTE coverage and discover the world of MVNO and haven't regretted it one bit.
I've always thought prepaid service was for those with bad credit but oh boy was I wrong, times have changed.
Now I look at those who are under contracts and over paying for service as suckers.
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tmeader said:
Currently (and will PROBABLY stay a Sprint customer), however, as for 800MHz LTE, as far as I know, there's no current phones that will be able to take advantage of that once it becomes available (unless Sprint is planning something similar for the S4 and they just haven't advertised it yet). 800MHz for voice will work for virtually everyone... but no phone out there right now is going to see an improvement data-wise from that spectrum. Pretty sure they announced at CTIA that only the new phones coming later this year will be able to take advantage of it.
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Correct, there are currently no Sprint 800Mhz LTE phones available. The current S4 cannot do LTE on 800.
shook187 said:
I personally moved away from Sprint even with having LTE coverage and discover the world of MVNO and haven't regretted it one bit.
I've always thought prepaid service was for those with bad credit but oh boy was I wrong, times have changed.
Now I look at those who are under contracts and over paying for service as suckers.
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Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?

mrzood said:
Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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Cross carrier roaming is allowed between AT&T and T Mobile if you choose a GMS phone.
From what I heard Verizon and Sprint allows cross carrier roaming through Straight Talk. If you choose to use a CDMA phone.
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mrzood said:
Correct, there are currently no Sprint 800Mhz LTE phones available. The current S4 cannot do LTE on 800.
Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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ting lets calls/text on roaming but not data
but at 36 bucks a month for any sprint device you already have for what compares to the 30 dollar tmo plan

shook187 said:
Cross carrier roaming is allowed between AT&T and T Mobile if you choose a GMS phone.
From what I heard Verizon and Sprint allows cross carrier roaming through Straight Talk. If you choose to use a CDMA phone.
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ting lets calls/text on roaming but not data
but at 36 bucks a month for any sprint device you already have for what compares to the 30 dollar tmo plan
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Good to know!

Funny because I just left Verizon for Sprint. The data speeds are unbelievable but there too expensive. I also have a 27% discount through my employer with Sprint, so that is a plus. I gotta admit I'm loving this unlimited data thing.
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I switched from AT&T to sprint. Unlimited data is cool, but unfortunately it is SO SLOW in the areas I travel to it is pointless. And that is even in some of sprints LTE areas.
And the voice coverage sucks in the areas I go to for business too.
Sprint has great plans, and if you have good coverage they are hard to beat. Problem is that their voice and data network coverage is crap compared to Verizon or AT&T...
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Goodbye T-Mobile and Sprint. Hello Softbank USA!

I figured I'd post this here
http://pocketnow.com/2014/06/07/softbank-usa
As John Legere, the future CEO of Softbank USA has said, Uncarrier is here to stay!
I hope this means that I get Tri-Band on my Nexus 5!
-A T-Mobile Customer.

I have no problem with this even though my Sero plan will probably be going away as long as Dan Hesse gets canned and John Legere takes control with the TMO way of doing business.

this sounds awesome

Not a big fan of the name. SoftBank USA sounds more of a bank name than a carrier name.

zephiK said:
Not a big fan of the name. SoftBank USA sounds more of a bank name than a carrier name.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank
SoftBank is a Japanese telecommunications company who owns Sprint and soon T-Mobile.

I hope they keep unlimited data.
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Hope they merge to a all GSM network, instead of a hodgepodge of all the different tech used by Sprint and T-Mo.
Wouldn't the logical and smart name for the company be SprinT-Mobile?
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Beauenheim said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank
SoftBank is a Japanese telecommunications company who owns Sprint and soon T-Mobile.
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I'm aware of what soft bank is.. I was saying that I'm not the biggest fan of the name because it sounds like a bank more than a carrier name.
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Seriously, what does this mean for us N5 users? With the addition of Sprint Spark, the N5 can connect to literally EVERY band both companies have, 3G, HSPA+, T-Mo LTE, Sprint Band 25/26/41 LTE, etc...Will SoftBank issue new SIMs to utilize both networks? They might consolidate into GSM, but Sprint Spark is significantly more advanced then HSPA+/T-Mo LTE, and I think that they'd want to utilize that...Either way, should be interesting...

Koopa777 said:
Seriously, what does this mean for us N5 users? With the addition of Sprint Spark, the N5 can connect to literally EVERY band both companies have, 3G, HSPA+, T-Mo LTE, Sprint Band 25/26/41 LTE, etc...Will SoftBank issue new SIMs to utilize both networks? They might consolidate into GSM, but Sprint Spark is significantly more advanced then HSPA+/T-Mo LTE, and I think that they'd want to utilize that...Either way, should be interesting...
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T-Mobile also has 20x20 LTE which is pretty fast. They're most likely going to go to VoLTE route.

in the end i dont really see a down side to any of this. just really hope they dont do away with unlimited data.

May the Mobile Data Gods be with us!
If you don't see a downside to this, you have never been on Sprint (lucky you). The absolute worst network has been hemorrhaging customers for quite a while for a reason, me as one of them. I am glad to see the rumor mill is for T-Mobile CEO to take the lead job, but I see great potential for my wonderful T-Mobile to be harmed mightily. Lets hope for the best
StevieJ

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If you don't see a downside to this, you have never been on Sprint (lucky you). The absolute worst network has been hemorrhaging customers for quite a while for a reason, me as one of them. I am glad to see the rumor mill is for T-Mobile CEO to take the lead job, but I see great potential for my wonderful T-Mobile to be harmed mightily. Lets hope for the best
StevieJ
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Speak for yourself. T-Mobile has 2G coverage in my town. Sprint(which I'm on) has 3G, and in the city next to me, Sprint has blanketed LTE, while T-Mobile has spotty HSPA and barely any LTE. In the sticks, Sprint is almost always better than T-Mobile, hell AT&T has more deadspots around my area than Sprint...

I'll be ok with the merger, as long as its like T-mobile taking sprint over, and not the other way around. Get rid of all sprint higher ups, and keep t-mobiles, because obviously the current t-mobile is much more capable then sprint has ever been since the sprint/nextel merger.
And i better get to keep my $30 100 min, unlim text 5gig data plan.

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As long as they keep unlimited data and the UP phone upgrade program, I'm all for it.
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misfit0313 said:
Hope they merge to a all GSM network, instead of a hodgepodge of all the different tech used by Sprint and T-Mo.
Wouldn't the logical and smart name for the company be SprinT-Mobile?
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The most likely course of action is that the networks will remain as is and the combined company will transition to all LTE and eventually shut off the CDMA/GSM/UMTS networks completely.
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Considering they will most likely have 800, PCS, AWS and the spark band; they could take one of those bands and use a third for voLTE.
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Koopa777 said:
Speak for yourself. T-Mobile has 2G coverage in my town. Sprint(which I'm on) has 3G, and in the city next to me, Sprint has blanketed LTE, while T-Mobile has spotty HSPA and barely any LTE. In the sticks, Sprint is almost always better than T-Mobile, hell AT&T has more deadspots around my area than Sprint...
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Where I'm located (Houston Tx) T-Mobile sucks. I work w/ some guys who have great flagship devices and they have Tmo and are always getting dropped calls and data is spotty as all get out.
I'm in Biloxi Mississippi now and I have LTE about 70% of the time on Sprint. I have it 90% of the time in Houston and have for a while now. They have come a looooooooooong way. Guess it just depends on where you are located.
I hope the deal goes through. [emoji41]
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If this is seriously the final verdict of the merger...I have to say I'm terrified and excited all at the same time. Sprint is right next to Verizon with me..and I hate both of them, no opinion of AT&T though.
But I'm excited because as long as Legere is still CEO I don't think us original T-Mobile clients have to worry too much (been with T-Mobile since 1999)..and hopefully we end up on a grandfathered plan so we don't lose features or have an insane price hike... Because the most important thing to me on my plan is unlimited data.
Edit : this makes sense now and it goes along with Uncarrier 5.0... Legere wanted to increase revenue...so he got did away with 15% discounts with programs like Triple A (AAA) and made it so only government and military workers are the only ones capable of getting a discount)
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[Q] T-Mobile vs Verizon for N6?

Hey everyone, I am looking for some opinions here. I live in Atlanta, GA and have just switched to Verizon from T-Mobile. Originally, I purchased iPhone 6+ and am now using the Nexus 6. I still am debating which I will use day to day, but, I have had nothing but issues with Verizon.
Without too much detail... rep that helped us migrate 3 business lines screwed up. As a result we had a lot of calls with care and managers and ended up getting 30gb of shared web for price of 10gb as well as close to $400 worth of credits atop of $450 in 2 cycles for switching. Great deal overall and helps a ton to cover device costs!
I had no issues with T-Mobile but my business partner is going to Dallas more where he had spotty coverage. On Verizon, he was great there but here... we have issues. From voice quality being much worse than Tmobile (even on VOLTE) to slower data speeds to 3G where we have LTE on T-Mobile. Now, with Nexus 6 I at least will get HSPA while on call with T-Mobile, compared to 0 data on verizon. There are places I get nearly 80mbps on Verizon, but it is cancelled out by overall mediocre performance.
I completely understand that Verizon has amazing coverage and better in-building penetration. However, Tmobile has made huge strides to become a very good data network in many metro areas. While calculating costs, after all credits, we would come out pretty even going back and won't save too much money.
So, given all that, is it worth staying on Verizon? Am I simply seeing greener grass on the other side? I am also worried that with Verizon it will be ages before nexus 6 will get VOLTE and Voice + Data.
Now, I am researching a lot about spectrum and what each carrier is deploying and for some reason T-Mobile just seems to be better when it comes to LTE tech, newly acquired spectrum and overall voice + data.

I was a Verizon customer for 11 years and switched to T-Mobile about 1 and half years ago. Couldn't be happier. Wished there was an easy answer gl with your decision

jbdan said:
I was a Verizon customer for 11 years and switched to T-Mobile about 1 and half years ago. Couldn't be happier. Wished there was an easy answer gl with your decision
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Thanks! Yea, indeed. From one angle I am thinking that the extra coverage is worth it, specially considering how so many others pay way more than what my plan costs. From another, I am seeing such inconsistent service and decreased voice quality makes it hard to want to stay on Verizon. I do like seeing 75mpbs sometimes though .
I rarely had service issues on T-Mobile everywhere I went around the city, now, it is a daily routine on Verizon.

air2k57 said:
Thanks! Yea, indeed. From one angle I am thinking that the extra coverage is worth it, specially considering how so many others pay way more than what my plan costs. From another, I am seeing such inconsistent service and decreased voice quality makes it hard to want to stay on Verizon. I do like seeing 75mpbs sometimes though .
I rarely had service issues on T-Mobile everywhere I went around the city, now, it is a daily routine on Verizon.
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Sounds like you've somewhat made your decision then
75mbps or 25mbps it doesn't matter to me but to some it might (I get 50mbps down and 25 up). Love HD voice it's crystal. What I love most though? That I am no longer with the big red corp and am with the most innovative and exciting carrier of the last 2 years

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Sounds like you've somewhat made your decision then
75mbps or 25mbps it doesn't matter to me but to some it might (I get 50mbps down and 25 up). Love HD voice it's crystal. What I love most though? That I am no longer with the big red corp and am with the most innovative and exciting carrier of the last 2 years
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Haha i hear ya. To me, anything over 5mbps is good as on mobile it all loads instant and videos buffer fast. So im not crazy in thinking that tmobile has an overall more advanced network?

air2k57 said:
Haha i hear ya. To me, anything over 5mbps is good as on mobile it all loads instant and videos buffer fast. So im not crazy in thinking that tmobile has an overall more advanced network?
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Good question I really don't know. I don't think you're crazy for thinking that. Tmo has turned the carrier world upside down and I believe all subscribers of all carriers can thank tmo for their lower prices and higher GB data plans.
I had to drop vzw because we moved 1 1/2 yrs ago to suburb of Atlanta and it's a vzw dead spot. No prob with tmo though. Blessing in disguise

jbdan said:
Good question I really don't know. I don't think you're crazy for thinking that. Tmo has turned the carrier world upside down and I believe all subscribers of all carriers can thank tmo for their lower prices and higher GB data plans.
I had to drop vzw because we moved 1 1/2 yrs ago to suburb of Atlanta and it's a vzw dead spot. No prob with tmo though. Blessing in disguise
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So you pretty much live by me sounds like. Interesting, that just means that it may not just be me then. At first I thought it was either my phone or the sim, verizon replaced both though. It seems like service always bounced between 2 and 4 bars of LTE at my house which creates random results. At times I could be getting 2mbps down while another verizon phone is getting 50, and vice versa. Speed isn't eveytbing, but there is no consistency and added with bad voice quality even on volte... A week ago I drove out towards Lawrenceville to help a friend look for a car and I kept dropping to 3G or having data so bad that even mobile sites would not load. My gf has T-Mobile and I grabbed her phone to test, she was literally getting 40 Mbps to my 1!

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So you pretty much live by me sounds like. Interesting, that just means that it may not just be me then. At first I thought it was either my phone or the sim, verizon replaced both though. It seems like service always bounced between 2 and 4 bars of LTE at my house which creates random results. At times I could be getting 2mbps down while another verizon phone is getting 50, and vice versa. Speed isn't eveytbing, but there is no consistency and added with bad voice quality even on volte... A week ago I drove out towards Lawrenceville to help a friend look for a car and I kept dropping to 3G or having data so bad that even mobile sites would not load. My gf has T-Mobile and I grabbed her phone to test, she was literally getting 40 Mbps to my 1!
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Haha! I live in mableton/Smyrna area. I have great coverage on tmo where ever I go in and around Atlanta. Especially now with the moto N6 its radios rock. 3g on vzw is like edge on tmo. They're both painful. I rarely if ever have seen edge in and around Atlanta on tmo (only one spot I know of) but often saw 3g on vzw. Tmos hspa/umts is super fast

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Haha! I live in mableton/Smyrna area. I have great coverage on tmo where ever I go in and around Atlanta. Especially now with the moto N6 its radios rock. 3g on vzw is like edge on tmo. They're both painful. I rarely if ever have seen edge in and around Atlanta on tmo (only one spot I know of) but often saw 3g on vzw. Tmos hspa/umts is super fast
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How is voice on n6? I popped Tmobile sim in it and it wasn't very good when I tried. I've read that volte and hd voice won't come to n6 on Tmobile till early 2015? Yea, I always told people about how good hspa on Tmobile was lol. It killed LTE on most carriers originally. Other than having a little higher ping.

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How is voice on n6? I popped Tmobile sim in it and it wasn't very good when I tried. I've read that volte and hd voice won't come to n6 on Tmobile till early 2015? Yea, I always told people about how good hspa on Tmobile was lol. It killed LTE on most carriers originally. Other than having a little higher ping.
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Already has HD voice spoke with it today. Volte will be a while yeah. I think voice quality is great, HD and non-hd

If anyone else has any input, greatly appreciated. I downloaded root metrics app and looking at places I go T-Mobile seems to have much stronger data than verizon. Although, voice coverage seems a tab better on verizon.

if you live out in the country, or spend lots of time out there, then tmobile is not for you. i love tmobile, and they have wonderful data speed where i live(70mbps download/30mbps upload. southern brooklyn), but out in the country, they arent so good. in cities, they are wonderful.

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if you live out in the country, or spend lots of time out there, then tmobile is not for you. i love tmobile, and they have wonderful data speed where i live(70mbps download/30mbps upload. southern brooklyn), but out in the country, they arent so good. in cities, they are wonderful.
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Thanks for your input!

[Q] Maybe leaving T-Mobile for Sprint - What will I lose? or Gain?

Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.

Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.

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Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.

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Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.

Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.

I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.

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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
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I had verizon wireless for 10 years and left them over a year ago for T-Mobile. I didn't regret anything. I didn't switch because of price because I could afford verizon, but their plans and phones suck and they are scam artists trying to rape every penny from you just like John Legere quoted. In my area and even in rural places in georgia I get pretty decent excellent coverage and service. At home I usually get from 80-112mbps down and 7-15mbps up. Verizon couldn't match that and hell, everyone I know that has sprint hate it and are jumping to T-Mobile because they get less than 1mbps and call quality sounds like pure ****. T-Mobile has nationwide VoLTE and WiFi calling and texting and the "Uncarrier" exclusives. I have unlimited data so I use it as my home internet since I have root for tethering unlimited data and its way faster than charters fastest speeds they deliver to my house lol. Sprint is also bad just like verizon because remember they are money hungry companies and they will lock u in contracts and can only use their cdma devices or select unlocked devices like the nexus 6. I heard verizon doesn't recognize the unlocked nexus 6, idk if that is true or not.

Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.

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I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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Although tethering is not supported, it does work.
There also would be no issue popping in a Cricket SIM in a Nexus 9. I've considered selling my WiFi N9 and getting a LTE N9 with a 20GB Cricket SIM.

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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
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Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April. Thanks though.

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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April.
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It did expire, someone is selling their account.

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Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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There is an app on the playstore if you have root called "WiFi Tether Router" which will work or if you want unlimited native tethering.
#1 in SQL lite go to /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db/global
#2 add " tether_dun required " and set the value to 0
#3 in your APN settings add " dun " to APN type and set your APN to IPv4 only since IPv6 doesnt support this.

Either use OpenSignal app or their site and zoom in on your neighborhood. They have a list of carriers with their average upload and download speed.
Personally I wouldn't use Sprint as OpenSignal and Rootmetrics has shown it is the slowest network across the country.
Get a AT&T GoPhone sim and try them out for a month. Walmart sells the sims. They now have rollover data on prepaid just like T-mobile. Plus they're not throttled like Cricket.
I wait for Callingmart to announce their monthly 10% off GoPhone refills on Twitter. Then refill each month saving me $6.

Just my 2¢ but I have been with Sprint for going on 8 years. Their service is great in my area (now) and their customer service has always been outstanding. While I do agree that they don't have the best coverage, they have come a long way in my time with them. You can get unlimited, TRULY unlimited data with them for a good price. They offer payment plans on the top devices and as I said, customer service has bent over backwards for me more than once. Choice is yours, OP, just do your homework and choose wisely.

I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.

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I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.

Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
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Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
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Good point. Hadn't thought about those. Thanks.
This morning my Speed Tests were decidedly better. At least 8 and as high as 12 meg. I haven't seen those numbers in months. So, (holding breath), perhaps my last call got something changed. I won't make changes unless I am sure there is no hope for change.

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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
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Other than calling to activate new phones, I have only had to call once in all my years with Sprint and I have no complaints on it. I don't generally need service, I pay my bill and use my phone lol. As far as overseas call centers, that's not entirely true; there is a Sprint call center in my city (along with a T-Mobile call center). To each their own.

I switched from Sprint to Verizon as my family plan 4 years ago, best decision of my life. Sprint will frustrate you beyond belief with their slow data, you won't even be able to load Google. I know you said the big 2 cost too much, so I'd stay with T-Mobile if I were you, avoid Sprint at all costs. I personally love Verizon, have 5 off contract smartphones with them, 15GB shared data, and pay $153+tax a month.