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[size=+1]Modded Joystick Joypad for Google Nexus 7 [/size]
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I modded this "Oregon Scientific Meep! Tablet Joystick" to use for the Nexus 7.
Issues to address/mod:
1) Meep has USB Mini Male Connection
2) Overall internal dimensions are too big for the N7
3) Color looks too kiddy
The Meep! came with a male USB Mini connector, so I had to make a cable with - USB Micro B male (nexus7 Side) --> USB mini A female (joystick input) - while using a piece of network cable to extend the overall length for the connection. I also used plasti dip rubberized coating to make the joystick black. Foam adhesive weather-seal helped secure the device and took up excessive space that the larger Meep! tablet occupies. You can rotate it 180 degrees and the tablet will not budge inside and it also feels very safe inside
Why Make This?:
I did this because there is nothing physically integrated (unless you pay $499 for a wikipad) and using a separate joystick is kind of a pain if your laying on the couch or in bed. I needed something to accommodate lazy ass mode. Granted it is limited to 4 direction buttons on the left and 4 push buttons on the right, you can still use the on screen buttons if more are needed. I'm usually on emu's most of the time so it suits my needs... Maybe if there is a large interest in the community, someone with manufacturing capabilities will make something like the WikiPad joystick for our 7" form factors with SixAxis like abilities... Until then, I had to mod one...
Project cost: $7.67 ($20 best buy reward card and many parts from the garage)
Minimum Cost: $~30.00 (if you don't have any parts on hand or discount cards)
Any Interests on a How To?:
If it strikes an interest please reply and I'll share the mod details and requirements. Don't feel like posting a tutorial right now if nobody is curious. I consider it to be a lightly-moderate level project. I'm sure this will also work for other 7" form factors like the Galaxy Tab and Kindle Fire, but I have not seen their cable configurations, so I would have to have look at one beforehand.
- Mark
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[size=+1]Modded Joystick Joypad for Google Nexus 7 [/size]
$30 for everything or in addition to the pad?
The Pad looks to be about $25 from Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Oregon-...lets/6456833.p?id=1218747934641&skuId=6456833
Does the Pad even fit in the unit? Or does the only modification require foam weather stripping and a M-microUSB>F-miniUSB? Because I have a Female Mini > Male Micro Adapter already: http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mini-USB-Micro-USB-Charger-Adapter/dp/B0018L4GOQ
I'm also curious about how the buttons feel. Do you have any issues with fine tweaks to the dpad and do the buttons have a solid feels? Doesn't seem too bad of a price for a unit like this that only needs a few minor tweaks to get working. I don't know if my cable would work because of the way the tablet sits in the unit. Probably require a 90 degree micro adapter.
$30 total.
A 90 degree otg is needed in order to fit properly. The inner casing was recessed to allow the otg connector to sit in and allow the device to center itself. Also, the cable was extended to allow the joystick port to reach the tablet. I soldered in a spare piece of network cable. A short cable will not work, without being extended.
Personally I've enjoyed using it so far. It feels more engaging to have the device your hands with the use of physical buttons.
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Seems pretty simple and would probably be a cake walk if someone made a 3" 90 OTG cable.
I believe there are some cable retailers that probably have one, but the price is $12-15. I found it easier/cheaper to make one with $3.00 worth of cable from eBay. Not difficult, just a little tedious because of the wire sizes.
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thanks for posting this. Although I wish the meep had more buttons, I have been on the lookout for something just like this for a while now.
Same here
Anyone find anything with more buttons or 2 analog sticks?
Submit this to kickstarter. Refine the design to perfectly fit the Nexus 7 (slide in like the Wikipad) and add a few buttons (mainly shoulder buttons).
Should be no problem to pledge the needed funds. The Nexus 7 sells very good and I estimate 30% of all Nexus 7 users are interested in this.
I have been looking for something like this. If there was a kickstarter project for this i would donate...
What is the port on the Joypad. You said it has a cable with a Male MiniUSB. Is it Full USB>Mini?
I'm trying to figure out how to make just 1 cable go from the N7 to the Joypad.
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Looks like the Joypad has a miniUSB in the middle of the unit point UP where the tablet would normally "dock". I can't find a 1 cable solution that would be perfect for this. Looks like splicing is the only option at this point.
You would need a Female Mini > Male Micro
I emailed NYKO about manufacturing a cradle style gamepad with updated buttons (analog sticks, and triggers - like a wikipad) and sent them a vid link. Hopefully they respond and give me their thoughts.
They have the manufacturing capabilities and already some current joysticks that feature all the remaining buttons we're looking for. I'm sure they can sell it at a lower cost than an kickstarter could, just my thought tho...
I also have a sixaxis,xb360, and a Logitech.... overall I enjoy the cradle style better than a separate controller for several reasons: no need for a stand, your hands grip the device and the screen is always located in line with controls, and you can sit/lay in virtually any position without worrying about the screen tipping over or adjusting your position. The device and controls feel integrated and as one unit. In other words, my n64 consumption has gone up and sleep has gone down.
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hey man, it's an awesome idea, could you post a tutorial how to do it? I've been looking for a perfect gamepad solution and this looks like it is!
Is there still no after market solution like this for sale. Sometime is missing out on making a million bucks. I would easily buy one of these for $50 for my n7
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To the OP. The way you have it set up, does the Nexus sit in front of the male mini usb plug that is attached to the case?
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Hi to all! I made the same joystick mod and... It's AWESOME!
But I have a little issue - system recognise joystick as keyboard. It is normal?
For setup keys i use USB BT Joystick Center.
I second the request for a tutorial on how to make this. I have found the pad and would love this mod.
Is it plug in play or what settings must be tweaked in order to make this happen?
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Now that USBhost works with cm7, we have more options. So, I'm hunting for a case/keyboard/trackpad (or mouse) combo that will turn the NC into a 7" netbook -- using Bluetooth and/or USB.
Does anyone know of any accessory that would handle this pretty well?
Has anyone seen/used this one?
http://www.ankaka.com/tablet-holder...ini-keyboard-for-7-inch-tablet-pc_p47823.html
I should check the 7" GalaxyTab accessories forum. While I've found a few 7" cases for sale around the net, I havent heard/seen any of them mention Nook specifically.
Has anyone had any luck with something like this?
That's totally cool! If you decide to get something like this please post how it works out. I would be in the market for something like that. In fact the low price on the one you linked is tempting me right now.
Yes, that's an excellent find! Should I decide to move to the Iconia Tab A100 in fall, or stick with the Nook Color, I will probably snatch one of those up.
That relies on the keyboard being connected by usb, which the nookcolor doesnt have. Im not sure if an adapter can be used? If it can i'd be quite interested in one myself.
marcboy said:
That relies on the keyboard being connected by usb, which the nookcolor doesnt have. Im not sure if an adapter can be used? If it can i'd be quite interested in one myself.
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USB Host support is current being worked on, and keyboards are working provided you pick up an adapter. The question becomes, however, will this work without having to go through a USB powered hub.
Haha, that guy above me didn't know about USB Host support we now have
All kidding aside, you guys know the NC is longer and skinnier than the GTab, right? As in, I'm sot sure that top clasp will bend down enough...maybe with the top and bottom ones bent...
wow that looks kick ass.
lets keep this thread updated with options
ace7196 said:
Haha, that guy above me didn't know about USB Host support we now have
All kidding aside, you guys know the NC is longer and skinnier than the GTab, right? As in, I'm sot sure that top clasp will bend down enough...maybe with the top and bottom ones bent...
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Yeah, that's my primary concern -- making sure the darn NC fits. Of course, my other concern is that the keyboard works in USB host mode without a powered hub.
I'm very close to testing one of these out... maybe a father's day gift to myself? lol
If it does work, I'll probably need to mod it to hold the nook somehow...hmmm...
A thought:
So...maybe get the case, then get a very small hub (smallest ever!), and you can cram the hub between the NC and one of the supports?
Like this? http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-usb-4-ports-hub-black-787
If the g/f ends up getting on that (I'm pretty sure is the same minus the dimensions) for her GTab, I'll toss the NC on it. I don't see why a "normal" usb keyboard wouldn't work. The cheapo ones that used to (still do?) come with dells worked without any hub on my NC. My illuminated keyboard and wireless mouse needed the unpowered hub to work for the NC.
Options:
USB:
http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Tablet-Stand-USB-Keyboard/dp/B004OB0EBQ/
http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Tablet-Stand-USB-Keyboard/dp/B004OB0EBQ/
http://www.amazon.com/Digistore-tablet-Protective-leather-Keyboard/dp/B004TJJPG8/
Bluetooth:
http://solidlineproducts.com/galaxy_tab/bluetooth_keyboard_case_galaxy/
http://www.amazon.com/Leather-Housing-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Samsung/dp/B004QE4S7C/
http://www.amazon.com/Portfolio-Built-QWERTY-Keyboard-Samsung/dp/B004OEW8S0/
... I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger on one or two of these for testing purposes...
Just received the HDE 7 w keyboard from amazon.
I didn't receive the micro usb adapter yet to test it with the nook. I did hook it the keyboard to my desktop to do some quick typing tests. However a quick take on it.
Firstly my hands are a bit big, I found the keyboard cramped. I was expecting this to a degree. But am finding it rather easy to click the other buttons. Not much better than the onscreen one, I like the tactical feedback, but my accuracy seems to have declined even further. The feel of the keyboard is good like a laptop keyboard, keys are bit shallow but overall good. I also hadn't noticed but it has the three lock leds for num. caps. and scroll.
The case, it feels good, like leather,and seems relatively padded. The clips to hold the nook in. The bottom two are good. The top is a bit away from the top, and even folding it down didn't help hold it. The clips only cover up the power button, and it's still relatively accessible. Turning it on it's side the nook slid out rather easily. I am thinking of Velcro on the back of the nook to help hold it in place. Once close besides the lack of side clips it feels sturdy and protected.
The magnetic strap that closes the case needs to be pushed behind the cover, by defaults it's in the way of viewing the screen. The back stand seemed to slide very easily and didn't hold it up to well. It kept falling back.
Portability is pretty much gone with this, It makes it about the size of a good hardback. It is not pocket able now, i think it's more due to added thickness.
It's seems like a good case, if your hands aren't overly large, and with a few modifications. The lack of side clips are somewhat problematic. The included stylus as probably know is for resistive screens, but it seems cheap. I will take and post pics later.
^^^ excellent info! Have any updates on how its working out with the nook itself?
I'm gonna try and get the pingtab one, but I can't find an adapter for the weird (hopefully not propriatary?) USB connector the Nook has. Anybody know where to get one?
Hmm, actually, do I need to be looking for a powered hub?
Requia said:
I'm gonna try and get the pingtab one, but I can't find an adapter for the weird (hopefully not propriatary?) USB connector the Nook has. Anybody know where to get one?
Hmm, actually, do I need to be looking for a powered hub?
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Lots of great info regarding USB host mode here, including info on the required adapters:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497
Ok, I have the mentioned keyboard/case combo*, though not the adapter (a twitchy one click finger made me buy the wrong one**), so I can't test the case just yet. It does however, kit the Nook perfectly. Unfortunately, it wasn't designed to hold a tablet in place when you hold the case like a book, only when it's used as a netbook. This also means the nook might not stay inside the case when carrying the case around without careful handling, so it's velcro time despite being the exact right size.
The USB cord could stand to be a tad longer, but I think I'll be happier in the long run using an extension cable when I want to hold the nook outside the case while typing.
The bulky standard USB tip gets in the way of closing the case with the nook inside, which means I'm going to have to let the cord hang out.
I suspect that the keyboard has a watch battery or similar inside, as the USB seems too thin to have a full 4 wires. This might be a problem in terms of long term durability, as I won't be able to get to the battery without unstitching or cutting the case, but it was 20$, so if it lasts 2 years and dies it'll still be a great value.
Edit1: The stylus is not a capacitive stylus, so no good with the nook, not terribly surprised.
All in all, this is highly usable and should work well with the nook (after I get the adapter), but it'd be 10x nicer with minor tweaks (a microUSB instead of a full sized, and a couple extra tabs so the tablet is held in 4 directions).
*I still can't post links, but paleh0rse posted it above, its the Digistore-tablet-Protective-leather-Keyboard one.
**Anybody know any national chain stores that might have the right adapter and aren't Radio Shack?
Anyone get one working?
@soulnothing just received the same (HDE 7" off Amazon)
and used it with a u -> USB adapter. No joy. Anyone else had any luck with this? Would assume it required a powered hub. Dang, so much for compact....
To avoid jacking Verygreens thread on usb host support, I am creating this thread for development of the Nook Color Backpack.
What is the Backpack, you ask?
The Backpack will be an open hardware based addon similar in style to the sliders used on Compaq(HP) iPaqs. It will be self contained in that it will carry its own battery source for powering USB peripherals and also a few built in goodies such as a camera module, stereo speakers(possibly amplified), and possibly a GPS module.
This thread is to help others who may want to build a similar device and to accept input from the community on its design. PLEASE, refrain from any flame wars or other similar postings.
Feel free to post with suggestions, comments or even criticism(as long as it is constructive).
Reserved for schematics and other technical details....
reserved for pics and misc. details......
Neat idea! I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes.
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Interesting idea...
Sparkfun.com sells a bunch of stuff that would make for a good prototype:
5V 600mA boost converter and LiIon charger (w/ microusb charging port):
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10300
2Ah single LiPo cell:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8483
microUSB plug - right angle breakout:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10031
USB A socket:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9011
If you were planning to use a hub you'd need a more capable boost converter or go with 2 LiPo cells in series and step-down. For a proof-of-concept I think you can get pretty far with these parts.
pokey9000 said:
Sparkfun.com sells a bunch of stuff that would make for a good prototype:
5V 600mA boost converter and LiIon charger (w/ microusb charging port):
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10300
2Ah single LiPo cell:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8483
microUSB plug - right angle breakout:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10031
USB A socket:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9011
If you were planning to use a hub you'd need a more capable boost converter or go with 2 LiPo cells in series and step-down. For a proof-of-concept I think you can get pretty far with these parts.
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Thanks pokey. I'll check into those. As far as the plug, I'm currently looking at buying and modifying a stock cable...to retain stock charging from a high amp source. Externally I think I will be going with a standard female USB A port for power in/stock USB connectivity.
The hub I've chosen so far is a cheapo Targus unpowered. Very easy to mod into what will be required.
Really need to get on a rough draft drawing of the general layout. I work 12 hours a day in construction. Ill try hard to squeeze spare time in for this and pics of the little I have done so far this week.
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solar panel, 1.8" hard drive, flash card reader, speakers and 3g card are some things I think might also be cool in something like this.
I am digging this idea. Can't wait to see some progress on this. If the speakers were bt then you could limit the wires some. Space for a 1/8 inch hdd would be nice because you could just use a cf card if you desired. Could really make the nook into a sort of laptop device if done right. Really can't wait to see this. Also check this out. Found it in another thread. May want to add a holder for it into the design somehow. http://www.amazon.com/ProMini-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-TouchPad/dp/B003ZJEUBI/ref=pd_sim_e_1
Good idea 3G will be appreciated.
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It took some googling for me to figure out what you were trying to do, but I see now you want to make a hard case that slides over the back of the NC with some hardware integrated.
My main criticism is that the backpack form factor is really optimized for handheld devices, and the NC is already pushing the practical weight for a handheld device. We're looking at easily another 1lb or more with this hardware, rendering it more of a docking station, at which point an actual docking station with a keyboard makes more sense.
Still, if you do want to design a backpack, consider incorporating stands and grips to make it more ergonomic. For instance, you could have fold-out tripod legs, or a picture-frame style easel, and indentations or possibly even finger loops.
Personally, I would prefer a genuine dock to serve as the 'other half of the laptop,' without requiring that the NC be either permanently attached to all that hardware or removed from its primary case.
to make the hooks that go around the side you could use sugru to mold them. i would think that would work.
I have a few thoughts.
1. I might find time to make this into my obsession for a while, as much as this interests me. My degree is in electronic engineering and I'm a pretty crafty person so perhaps I can be of assistance. I will give it some thought and see if I can contribute. So busy this days with life...
2. One of the things I need to be able to switch from a full laptop is the ability to sit this thing on my lap and work from a keyboard. With all the current cases, they are not supported properly like a hinged laptop display so they have to be on something and propped up. To be able to use some type of hinged holder that is stiff enough to hold the Nook up would be awesome. I have some ideas on how to do this, it could be the finishing touch once it's all working.
3. With the functionality that most people seem to want, I personally don't think size is that big of an issue. Why don't we figure out how to mod one of the existing iPad cases or something of that nature? That would give a slightly larger keyboard and the extra space around where the Nook would attach and/or slide into could hold the additional hardware like speakers and such. IMO, if I can have the size of the Nook and pop it into something like this when I *really* need to work or type a long email, I'm cool with a slightly larger format.
I'm struggling to keep up with some of the latest info regarding USB host & BT support on the Nook and such, but I'll see if I can read up. I'm guessing that once the source for HC is released it all becomes easier and it appears that CM7 is already making a lot of progress.
troyy0206 said:
2. One of the things I need to be able to switch from a full laptop is the ability to sit this thing on my lap and work from a keyboard.
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3. With the functionality that most people seem to want, I personally don't think size is that big of an issue.
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More power to you, though it sounds like the Asus Transformer is exactly what you want.
Take a look at this:http://www.energizerpowerpacks.com/us/
I have 2 of the XP4001 models, each one is the size of a small usb hard drive. It has two usb ports on it and charges my phone, digital camera, and mp3 player great.
Haven't tried it on the Nook yet...
If I get what you're trying to do, taking apart one of the XP8000 models and going from there might be a good part of the prototype puzzle?
You can find these at office supply stores, more then big box electronics stores.
pokey9000 said:
More power to you, though it sounds like the Asus Transformer is exactly what you want.
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Now where's the fun in just buying it already made if we can design and build it ourselves
Blue6IX said:
Take a look at this:http://www.energizerpowerpacks.com/us/
I have 2 of the XP4001 models, each one is the size of a small usb hard drive. It has two usb ports on it and charges my phone, digital camera, and mp3 player great.
Haven't tried it on the Nook yet...
If I get what you're trying to do, taking apart one of the XP8000 models and going from there might be a good part of the prototype puzzle?
You can find these at office supply stores, more then big box electronics stores.
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This looks like a great battery pack. Thanks for the link.
I've been thinking more and reading more on verygreens thread...I'm start to think KISS. Battery pack and USB hub, with one port facing each way(left,right,top,bottom). Then just make a modified camera with the cord eliminated and the plug molded right into its housing. Have opposite ports facing forward and backward at top and bottom to allow for video chat or (very large) camera usage.
Some benifits of this will be more flexibility in hardware, possible use as a simple battery pack for the nook, and MUCH easier designing of the charging/bypass circuits.
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Taosaur said:
It took some googling for me to figure out what you were trying to do, but I see now you want to make a hard case that slides over the back of the NC with some hardware integrated.
My main criticism is that the backpack form factor is really optimized for handheld devices, and the NC is already pushing the practical weight for a handheld device. We're looking at easily another 1lb or more with this hardware, rendering it more of a docking station, at which point an actual docking station with a keyboard makes more sense.
Still, if you do want to design a backpack, consider incorporating stands and grips to make it more ergonomic. For instance, you could have fold-out tripod legs, or a picture-frame style easel, and indentations or possibly even finger loops.
Personally, I would prefer a genuine dock to serve as the 'other half of the laptop,' without requiring that the NC be either permanently attached to all that hardware or removed from its primary case.
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I see what you are saying...yeah, if I hold my nook one handed for any length of time...its heavy. As above, I have started thinking about keeping it simple. The hub I have only weighs an ounce or two, once stripped of the housing. The batteries will be the main source of weight/bulk. The charge controller is about dead simple using a picaxe 20x2 chip and very few components. Mostly it will just be a voltage source sensor and switch to transfer to the appropriate power source(battery or USB input).
I guess I haven't ever looked at this as a laptop converter, but rather as a way to complete the picture, by allowing the addition of things like a camera and microphone input that Android was made for.
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Syco54645 said:
to make the hooks that go around the side you could use sugru to mold them. i would think that would work.
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Not sure if sugru will be strong enough. Was thinking more along the lines of custom molded fiberglass. Easy enough, light, damn strong. Mayhaps ill spring for some carbon fiber
@ troyy0206....feel free to work on a seperate design as well. This isn't all about what I want...its about designing something that anyone else can duplicate or modify to their needs. As an EE, you have a leg up on most of us in terms of designing the circuitry. I'm just good at putting parts together.
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Recently bought a Nook Color, and already have a 32GB microSD card for it and have a pack of anti-glare screen protectors coming in on Saturday. I'm looking to add a plain case and a keyboard case (if possible) to complete my "accessory" set for it.
For the plain case, I'm just looking for something along the lines of the Otterbox Commuter case for it - something that will look nice and be able to protect it should it fall; I want to comfortably carry it on the street and not worry if it falls out of my hands. Just wondering, though - is it worth ~$40? I don't care about it covering the microSD card slot (I don't intend on removing it much), I'm just talking purely about protection and whether there's a better case for the price that would offer a similar level of protection. I don't need a "folio-type" case that will actually cover the screen, and I'd actually prefer that it isn't.
As for the keyboard case, I'm looking at something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OB0EBQ/
And I remember seeing one with a microUSB connector at the end, but I can't find it at the moment. Anyway, I'm wondering if there's such a keyboard case that would work via USB with the Nook Color (and if there's anything specific I need to do in terms of software - I have CM7.2 on it right now), since I've read that certain such devices won't work without a powered USB hub, and I'd rather not deal with that. I'm not too interested in Bluetooth keyboard cases both due to price and the hassle of Bluetooth (pairing, battery life, etc.), but if somebody knows of a cheap one that works well with the Nook Color then I'd be very interested.
Thanks!
I too have given up on bluetooth keyboards and I'm using this case:
http://www.caseyfrennier.com/nook-color-keyboard-case/
I like it. I've dropped it a few times too. On carpet though.
Peoplephobic said:
I too have given up on bluetooth keyboards and I'm using this case:
http://www.caseyfrennier.com/nook-color-keyboard-case/
I like it. I've dropped it a few times too. On carpet though.
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I found that case here, with a microUSB plug (meaning the miniUSB plug and converter is unnecessary):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170783937772
Great to know that it only requires an app to work. Think I might go with that and the Otterbox, since it seems like it should still fit according to the specs.
Nobody makes a micro usb female to usb male adapter that I've found so you won't be able to use that keyboard and a mouse and usb drive using a usb hub.
Good find though.
Peoplephobic said:
Nobody makes a micro usb female to usb male adapter that I've found so you won't be able to use that keyboard and a mouse and usb drive using a usb hub.
Good find though.
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I thought about that (after I bought it =P), but I don't even have a wired mouse at the moment, or the need to plug in a flash drive. Just the keyboard plugged in is fine for me.
So I finally received the case this week and I've been using it a bit...I love it. My only two complaints are that it doesn't hold it well enough to prevent it from slipping out on the sides, and that the Nook Tweaks app to enable USB host doesn't always work properly (might have to re-enable settings and refresh a few times) - but certainly not a dealbreaker.
I'm still looking for a decent regular case, though, as the Otterbox is kinda pricey at ~$45.
magus57 said:
My only two complaints are that it doesn't hold it well enough to prevent it from slipping out on the sides, and that the Nook Tweaks app to enable USB host doesn't always work properly (might have to re-enable settings and refresh a few times) - but certainly not a dealbreaker.
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Which case are you talking about here? Just for complete clarity, so I know what not to get.
--bornagainpenguin
bornagainpenguin said:
Which case are you talking about here? Just for complete clarity, so I know what not to get.
--bornagainpenguin
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The one I linked to:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170783937772
From what I understand, the full-size USB version that can be bought on Amazon is identical in the way it holds the tablet. Again, I certainly wouldn't call it a dealbreaker especially since you can probably make some DIY straps to hold it better or something.
eBay has lots of cases. Got mine from a seller named letsshopdirect. $10 shipped. Whoo.
I bought a keyboard case, even with Nook Tweaks app and both USB settings checked, it wont work with my NC. I know its not the keyboard, cuz it works with other tablets. What am I doing wrong?
Oh, this may help: http://www.ebay.com/itm/310961491593?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 its the link to the listing on ebay for my keyboard
I've used a universal case from Walmart which has yet to fail me.
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Do these exist for any device?
I don't know why you couldn't have a case that allows for the installation of an SD card while allowing you to physically mount your device within it..so everything looks flush, even if it makes your device an extra 1/2" long or w/e.
I'd never thought of that before. That's a rather clever idea; a case that is also a dock, perhaps. I suppose the various iphone battery cases are similar in execution, but since it is usb OTG, the opportunities are a lot more interesting with Android.
I think it would be awesome IF OTG didn't require root & stickmount. I doubt most accessory makers are going to go through the trouble of serving such a small market. Yes, most people at XDA will root, but we are probably less than 1% of the market.
I was thinking this too but have little hope we will see something come to market. I'm gonna order a few thick cases and see if I have room to cut out a spot for a lil built in microusb reader and think otg cable.
It would be nice if some manufacturer made a USB otg case with a battery built in also. Make it the ultimate media device, but able to shed the extra bulk whenever by simply removing the case.
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You have to consider that using USB host uses some extra battery, so even if you aren't using any USB ports but have the case on it might decrease battery life.
omg
i just thought of this.
i took it a bit further tho.
having charging capabilities would be wonderfull
my thread
you beat me by a few hours
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792704
I would just be happy with a good case that has a backup battery built in, I would also like one of those for my galaxy s2. Why do they only make those for the iPhone ? Does apple own the patent or something?!
proud_whovian said:
I would just be happy with a good case that has a backup battery built in, I would also like one of those for my galaxy s2. Why do they only make those for the iPhone ? Does apple own the patent or something?!
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Apple owns the patent on the rectangle & the touch screen. And they're all lawyered up........be afraid.
I think what I'll end up doing is trying my hand at tearing apart an OTG cable and connecting with one of these:
http://www.usbfirewire.com/usb_cables_a_to_micro-b_up_angled_a_to_up_angled_micro_b_64.html
http://www.usbfirewire.com/usb_cables_a_to_micro-b_down_angled_a_to_down_angled_micro_b_66.html
http://www.theandroidsmartphone.com...-i9100-galaxy-s-ii-2-gt-n7000-galaxy-note.htm
Still not as low profile as I'd like, but if I can get a hard case with a little thickness, I might be able to make it look like 1 piece. It's not perfect, but it might be the best we've got (unless somebody already makes an OTG cable with an elbow). Be nice if I can peal back the rubber and expose just the plug and then set it up with a flat ribbon cable or something straight to an SD card.
It's amazing we can fit a bluetooth radio into the USB port and hardly add anything size wize, but looking for a microusb cable that's very low profile turns up nothing fruitful. . . Anybody know where to find bare microusb connectors?
Edit: Hmmmmm. . . http://www.foxlink.com/_en/2_product/2pro_detail.php?ID=137
Naturally when i first bought my N7 i wanted to put it right inside of a case to avoid damaging the tablet. I am a pretty clumsy guy, so i went right onto Amazon to look for a case suitable for the N7. I discovered this tablet case/stand and usb keyboard combination, marked down from $32.00 to $7.15. It comes with a usb keyboard, that seems a bit flimsy, but is reported to work the N7 just fine. And the N7 fits right into the case without any issues and is
very secure. The only downside is it does not come with an otg cable, but those are cheap now. The cases exterior is made of artificial leather, but it feels nice and i feel my tablet is safe inside the case. It also has a stand, and its very sturdy and it sits the tablet a good angle. I think its a good product especially for the price. Hope this helps.
http://www.amazon.com/Tablet-Stand-USB-Keyboard-Carrying/dp/B004OB0EBQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
The keys look a little too small for those who type very fast. But for 7 bucks, i mean its worth a shot.
Anyone try this? If so how are the keys?
Read some reviews and for the price you cannot do better. However, if its somewhat hard to type on people might be better off with the touchscreen keyboard.
Good find!!
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The keys look a little too small for those who type very fast. But for 7 bucks, i mean its worth a shot.
Anyone try this? If so how are the keys?
Read some reviews and for the price you cannot do better. However, if its somewhat hard to type on people might be better off with the touchscreen keyboard.
Good find!!
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I tried to type on the keys, just to get a feel for it, and they do seem a small, especially if your a big guy (im 6'2 200 plus). It just may take some getting used to, but as you said for the price you can't beat it.
This type of case has been posted about a few times now, it won't work with your N7, at least not without you also buying an adaptor, it has the wrong connector. The styluses are only good for the bin as they won't work either.
I had this same case on my very first tablet, it was OK... you will easily find a better case for not much more money, the keyboard worked with my old tablet just fine (need to use an adapter and you will too if you use it with the n7) it felt OK typing on it but it was better than the onscreen keyboard.
With the n7 I feel this on screen keyboard would be better than the one supplied with case
The stylus worked on that tablet but. Doubt it would on the n7 as this is a capacitative touch while my old tablet was resistive (yeah I know terrible but it was my first tablet a long time ago)
I bought a cheap 7$ case from eBay for my n7, it works, seems protective, folds to a stand but **** is it ugly! I only used it a few days and have been using my tablet naked form then on, still in the market for a nice case, maybe in the 15-30$ range if anyone has any recommendations
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I bought one of these cases with the built-in keyboard:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370569042688
and one of these OTG adapters:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261063649106
and together they work fine on my N7. The keys are on the small side but they're not terrible. If I ever have the inclination to do more than a little typing on my tablet then it would be quite satisfactory.
I don't understand why the need for an OTG cable. Any micro adapter will do. Or just buy a keyboard with a microusb cable in it already. The only problem that I didn't expect (size was a given) was that the usb cables on these cheap keyboards are waaay to thin and break easily. My suggestion is to get a bluetooth keyboard for another twenty bucks. That is until I find out that they also have some manufacturing problem.
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I don't understand why the need for an OTG cable. Any micro adapter will do. Or just buy a keyboard with a microusb cable in it already. The only problem that I didn't expect (size was a given) was that the usb cables on these cheap keyboards are waaay to thin and break easily. My suggestion is to get a bluetooth keyboard for another twenty bucks. That is until I find out that they also have some manufacturing problem.
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problem would be battery life for the tablet and the keyboard, seems to use a lot more than just usb. and you can get keyboards of higher quality and the proper port, they are just more expensive than I'm willing to pay
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