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All others rooted phones have a message showed when an application asks root, why don't we have this on Tattoo ?
On Tattoo root permissions are always enabled
Ok, it's nice but we can't see which application ask root :/
Like Terminal Emulator, when you launch it, the shell is always in normal user "$", not in root :/
JoOoSs said:
Ok, it's nice but we can't see which application ask root :/
Like Terminal Emulator, when you launch it, the shell is always in normal user "$", not in root :/
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This is true, but I dont know how, after isntalling 5faif ROM, terminal emulator shows me the #, id command shows me that I'm root.
I'm on stock ROM, this is the problem i think!
Anybody has SetCPU ?
The problem with this is that every application can obtain root without our knowledge.
It is a serious security flaw.
Not really. Android is pretty secure. Even if you get a brick from a Andirus (Virus + Android), it's a piece of cake to undo the damage.
Netbuster said:
This is true, but I dont know how, after isntalling 5faif ROM, terminal emulator shows me the #, id command shows me that I'm root.
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Because that rom you've flashed contains custom boot.img by mainfram3 that gives to you root at startup and loads tattoo-hack.ko (partition r/w always mounted)
Coburn64 said:
Not really. Android is pretty secure. Even if you get a brick from a Andirus (Virus + Android), it's a piece of cake to undo the damage.
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Actually i wasn't having viruses in mind. More like keyloggers and such. SU prompt wasn't invented for no reason...
I think the OP was asking about SuperUser.apk.
It's a modified su plus a service that asks for user intervention when a program calls /system/bin/su. It's nifty and it should be used by everyone.
Android apps are prevented from looking into other apps data. If su is readily available, a app can escalated it's privileges and steal your personal info, by reading data from other apps.
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I think the OP was asking about SuperUser.apk.
It's a modified su plus a service that asks for user intervention when a program calls /system/bin/su. It's nifty and it should be used by everyone.
Android apps are prevented from looking into other apps data. If su is readily available, a app can escalated it's privileges and steal your personal info, by reading data from other apps.
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Exactly my point.
MoDaCo Custom ROM 1 includes Superuser apk for root access.
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Anyone know how to fix Superuser Permissions manually?
I have Tattoo with rooted boot.img (mainfram3)
I pushed su into /system/bin/
Made chmod 4577 /system/bin/su
Pushed superuser.apk from Modaco Rom to /system/app/
Restart sure...
SuperUser Permissions can be executed (list is clear)
But any app doesn't send request to Superuser Permissions.
What i could forget?
Finally, I solved it partially.
Sure, i have rooted boot.img
I extracted from Modaco Custom ROM for Tattoo:
su
Superuser.apk
copied su to: /system/bin/su
copied Superuser.apk to: /system/app
run in terminal: chmod 4577 /system/bin/su
restarted and everything works fine now... Superuser Permissions shows all root-requests, Titanium Backup works, other root-things works too
But i notice, that su-binary from Modaco ROM is about 34-36 kb, but
su-binary from guide of getting root is about 80-85 kb.
1-2 months ago we faced with difference in size of su. We choosed bigger su in case, what it can run "flash_image", smaller su can't run.
But maybe it fixed already? I did not test it yet.
Thanks @5[Strogino]
I was trying to use Titanium today to back up my apps but it didn't work.
lukic said:
Thanks @5[Strogino]
I was trying to use Titanium today to back up my apps but it didn't work.
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What exactly wrote TB?
Did you download busybox via TB?
I don't remember exactly.
It did ask me to download busybox and I did that, but still it didn't work.
Hello...
My question is simple. Why I get permission denied on rooted phone?
When I type: adb shell, I get $. Then I type su and I get this message: Permission Denied.
I followed this how-to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792016) to root my phone and everything was fine. I get root privilegies and installed Superuser.apk, su, busybox...
But now, when I try to get root privilegies, I get the message above. Why?
Thanks and sorry for my english.
Because your phone isn't rooted. Either you didn't do it right or it's unrooted somehow, perhaps you got an OTA.
I think my phone is rooted, because there are many apps that use root permissions installed and working normally.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Then su isn't set up properly, or isn't asking for superuser permissions, or has been denied superuser permissions? Look in your Superuser app, maybe clear settings in it and let su ask again.
So, I cleared the settings in Superuser.apk and tried open Adfree apps that needs su permissions... and it opened and got permissions normally. I really don't understand what is the problem...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
You do have usb debugging enabled right?
So recently i rooted my Xperia z1 using kingroot and it went smoothly i got root access,then i tried to switch it to supersu and it didnt work,i have used terminal emulator to run the shell file,the method in which you place mrw folder in phone memory,but it just uninstalls the kingroot and installs the supersu,it didnt upate the root app,so supersu doesn't update its binary,i have tried multiple times and i cant do it manually because i camt mount /system to r/w what can i do? Any help please i am so frustrated with this kingroot app.
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So recently i rooted my Xperia z1 using kingroot and it went smoothly i got root access,then i tried to switch it to supersu and it didnt work,i have used terminal emulator to run the shell file,the method in which you place mrw folder in phone memory,but it just uninstalls the kingroot and installs the supersu,it didnt upate the root app,so supersu doesn't update its binary,i have tried multiple times and i cant do it manually because i camt mount /system to r/w what can i do? Any help please i am so frustrated with this kingroot app.
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First and foremost: Do NOT use Kingroot. There are many threads that explain why Kingroot is shady:
http://androidforums.com/threads/kingroot-safe-to-use.923983/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3vmspw/thoughts_regarding_kingroot/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604749
Yes, I know there's guides that recommends users to use KingRoot. But unless you want to send private IMEI to China or leak information to the world, just don't use it.
Second, use THIS guide to obtain root.
Alternatively, you can go to the custom ROM route: this will save you a lot of time and headache. Jaguar ROM if you want some AOSP flavor, or DStrikerz if you like Sony's UI. Both includes root, but DStrikerz will allow flashing with locked bootloader. Read THIS for custom recovery.
Hello, new user here.
Since I stuggled with root on my Phone and somehow managed to maintain it, I thought, I 'd share you the stuff I did with you.
I put the TL;DR between hide, if you want to read the story behind my struggle anyway, you are welcome.
I am better with explaining stories then explaining things.
Spoiler
I am using a Samsung S4 mini, Stock ROM and just don't want to flash a cROM.
But I wanted more functions to do - a swiss knife like my old GT-S3650, which was able to boot a PC from.
Most of the things I want to use need root, so why not rooting this sleep S4 mini baby?
And I managed to root it using Kingroot. And all of the things I want to use worked.
After a few days, I noticed network traffic, even with the most network apps and Sync disabled.
Weird? Yes. So I installed "Shark" on my Phone and "Wireshark" on my PC, and started logging.
I noticed an increase of Jabber (the protocol) and a lot of request on domains from China.
Some requests even included my IMEI, how I am connected to the Internet, etc... pretty private Stuff.
I found most of the sources, the IMEI sending App was Shark itself.
Used Lucky Patcher to get rid of it and /etc/hosts blocked the DNS with Hosts Editor.
Did the same with some Kingroot DNS.
But then I asked myself: "Can Kingroot still root my phone, even when cut of the web?".
So I UNROOTED my Phone from Kingroot. Bad idea. Really bad one.
After I ran Kingroot again, it told me, it didn't have a network connection.
I have no idea how I was able to edit the hosts file without SU.
Rerooted the Phone, even if it left a bitter taste of having unwanted network traffic.
This is which made me want to switch to SuperSU.
I tried to mount system as RW prior and installing SuperSU over Kingroot SU. And it failed.
I even tried to make my own uninstall script to uninstall KR by unpacking the Kingroot APK and look what it does.
Not working, the script failed (I am not used to Linux), so I stayed at Kingroot.
While I was working on Kingroot, I was thinking about the idea of having 2 SU Apps, which everyone said it won't work.
But I wanted it to make work - and this is actually the focus on this topic.
During tests, it didn't work as intended, so I stopped working on it and forgot it overtime, resting within my /system.
Days passed, Weeks and Months and I lived with Kingroot, forgot all the trouble and access to/from China.
Recently, I started SuperSU - it was still on my phone. This "cannot install su binary" nagged me and thought:
Oh, why not use this instead.
And then there was SuperSuME... which I didn't want to use, since I was able to brick BlueStacks with it.
But I really wanted to get rid of Kingroot and use SuperSU. This was yesterday.
My phone still has warranty and I think I have Odin here (just in case), but not the 100% exact ROM file.
So I did SuperSuME anyway -I always could return the phone and claim it "broken after OTA update", lol.
Well, SuperSuME did it's Job better then expected and no bricks. Nice Job.
While playing around with SuperSU, I did another mistake.
And here we are... at the main topic.
TD;TR for those who didn't want to read the story:
I rooted my phone 2 times with Kingroot and finally wanted to switch to SuperSU.
After I accidentally broke Kingroot the first time, blocked it's Internet access and unrooted afterwards, I got stuck with a unrooted phone and Kingroot failed to root it.
I was lucky to fix that problem and rooted again with Kingroot.
After months, I used SuperSUME to change that. After SuperSU was installed, i made the mistake of unticking "Enable Superuser". Bad idea.
Tapping "Enable" again, it failed to update the su-binary. oh god. I unrooted again.
While traversing through my directories to start Kingroot again to root, I found my "shadow copy" of SU.
Wut? Shadow copy? Let me explain:
After my first unroot, I wanted to have a SU backup anyway at all costs, just in case I accidentally messup root again.
Now after hours I think I know why it doesn't work.. the normal way, of course.
I installed SuperSU, went into /data/data (or where ever SuperSU has its files) and took a look at them.
Unpacked the SuperSU APK on the PC and gathered all "needed" (I think were needed) files.
I hexedited the most SU binaries from SU to ZU and changed all other referenced binaries as well.
I am sorry about that, Chainfire. I was just testing things.
SU => ZU
SUpolicy => ZUpolicy
setup_su => setup_zu
99SuperSUDaemon => 99SuperZUDaemon
daemonsu => daemonzu
zygote => zugote
I had no idea what sukernel was for, so I left that out.
Why call it ZU? "Sun Tzu" thats why. Known as "Sunzi", he wrote Book about "the Art of War".
After I made sure everything is properly renamed and edited, I moved them onto my phone in the right directories required and chmod them.
I don't know much about that, I just copied the chmod numbers from Kingroot SU and some weird script I found on the web.
Tried to run it using JuiceSSH local terminal, and BAM!! the SuperSU box popped up.
But pressing "Allow" accepted it and nothing else happened.
It became stuck after ZU... it did nothing, but the daemon was running as daemonzu and daemonsu at the same time..
JuiceSSH popped up in SuperSU (while it told me the SU bin was outdated), though.
So I was on the right track, but a piece of the puzzle was missing, so I stopped delving deeper into it.
And forgot about it until about yesterday - where I disabled "Superuser" in SuperSU.
Midwhile the su binary changed from Kingroot SU to SuperSU SU.
Note: It should really ask "Do you want to disable Superuser? SuperSU will delete su binary" Yes/NO.
As I found those files, I started JuiceSSH and typed "zu".
This time, ZU somehow worked like it should.
It spawned a root shell. OMG...
I guess it somehow requires something else needed, which wasn't working while Kingroot was active.
I tried "Root Checker" and it failed. I had no "official" root. But still root available in JuiceSSH.
Somehow I managed to restore SuperSU to normal status. Guess this thing can latch onto an active root user or so.. no idea.
I even screenshotted this, cause I couldn't believe it. If you want, I can post those.
I have now a working second su on my phone, which is hidden from most apps.
But I think it is not perfect, it relies on something SuperSU does or installs during installation.
I apologize again to Chainfire for editing his stuff.
So, now my questions:
1. How can I make it perfect to run standalone, only using SuperSU as a GUI for (Allow/Deny)?
1b. Can we make it part of SuperSU? As a special function: "Install Stealth SU"?
2. Can we use that for something else? -> Probably for this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396
3. Why must the binary be called SU? I know it's for the most apps to do their job and somehow Linux standard.
***UPDATE***
I removed Kingroot through their app and unrooted my phone. I tried another one click root, Kingoroot (I know, quite similar names.) The SU which this one installs, isn't restricting me and I successfully set read/write to /system.
I still would prefer to be using superSU but I get a binary occupied message, and the kingouser app doesn't have an option to switch SU app.
For anyone else struggling with kingroot not letting apps work properly, try kingo, who knows.
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I have the Z3 Compact, and I HAVE NO ACCESS to a PC, and thus have rooted my phone with King root (which was a terrible idea but any root is better than no root)
I have this issue, where King root in some way shape or form is not allowing anything that requires write permission to /storage access to it.
This is not allowing me to install/use things like busybox, lucky patcher, freedom, and is also, stopping me from using terminal emulator to do things such as mount -o rw,remount,/system or anything else. I tried to use a system I found on XDA to replace Kingroots superuser to SuperSU to get around this, however, the replace_kinguser method, fails with no write permission, and also, fails to remove kinguser from /system/apps/kinguser because that doesn't exist as a directory and I think Kingroot may have made changes to their superuser handler.
I really, really need help getting Kingroot out, and superSU in. Without the use of a PC. Considering I do, have root, there must be something I can do.
I also can't set system to write with ES file explorer or pretty much any other method on the first ten pages of Google.
Any time I try to set /system to r/w I get permission denied.
I'm running, android 5.0.2
Also, BOOTLOADER UNLOCK ALLOWED? NO
So I don't think I can flash a custom recovery of any kind.