Alright so I've been looking around on various Android forums and people seem to be very upset that there is no CDMA variant of the Nexus 4 announced so far. Coming from the Sprint/Verizon Galaxy Nexus, I am glad that they're not bothering this time around because CDMA goes against what the Nexus brand stands for, openness.
These carriers are very self-contained. You can only purchase phones to use on their network from them. Want a unlocked phone? You're out of luck BUT you can purchase the phone from their website off contract or you can go and get one from eBay or Craigslist. Because of this, the carriers have manufacturers by the balls, especially when it comes to updating phones. Want to get an update? You'll have to wait until these carriers "inspect" the update to ensure that it is not "harmful to the network" and all that PR crap they go on and on about.
Anyways, CDMA would mean that Google/LG would have to make a 4G LTE variant since these carriers only sell 4G phones now and Google doesn't seem too happy about how the CDMA variants of the GNex turned out last time. The updates were untimely to say the absolute least and the battery life was horrendous. I'm sure that the guys at Google had one hell of a time disputing against the crapware that Verizon/Sprint wanted to put on their phones so they could get a quick buck from Blockbuster and whatever other useless advertisements and applications they put on there now days.
If you want a Nexus phone, jump over to another carrier. I'm finally going over to T-Mobile and I'm getting unlimited data/text and a hundred minutes (which won't be used because I use GrooVe for voice over data/WiFi) for $30 a month. The entire move is going to cost me less than $400 and I'm sure you all have phones that you could sell to get over here. It really is the better move and the HSPA+ is amazingly fast without the battery drain.
My only option for a carrier is Verizon or sprint. At&t and T-Mobile only have gprs where my grandparents live, and I need internet for work. I'm upset there isn't a CDMA variant.
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I'm pretty excited about making the move to GSM and prepaid service. Any smartphone I've ever had was either Sprint and now Verizon. I can't even get an hour and a half of on-screen time with my Verizon gnex. It'll constantly switch from 3g to LTE and most of the time get stuck in the middle, looking for signal and draining the battery, it's horrendous.
I'm glad that there isn't a CDMA variant because CDMA is dead-end technology, and anything that brings about its demise sooner is a good thing IMO. Whatever the original technical merits were that CDMA held over GSM have pretty much become nonexistent as I understand it, and you give up the huge advantage of being able to easily switch carriers without purchasing a new phone. Anyone who's spent time outside the US and in an open GSM phone system knows how nice it is to be able to switch carriers at will.
But also Google's rationale for not including LTE makes a lot more sense with no CDMA variant. As the OP mentioned, a CDMA variant would absolutely HAVE to have LTE. Verizon's EV-DO network is still Rev. A, right? That's disgustingly slow in today's day and age, and while it makes sense that the CDMA carriers would have skipped over later revisions of EV-DO and go straight to LTE, it also means they're in an "LTE or bust" situation right now. GSM networks have a much better upgrade path, and 42mbps HSPA+ is more than fast enough for just about anything you'd want to do on a phone.
Personally I'm happy with the decision, because as a GSM user I see no need to frantically jump on the LTE bandwagon. I'd much rather take better battery life and a lower phone cost than have a transmission standard that is overkill for the vast majority of phone applications forced down my throat.
You all don't remember that GSM Nexus devices always come out first. CDMA phones will most likely come out months later, and with higher storage to generate buzz. Google knows better than to shut out ~20 million subscribers.
I'm pretty confident they are offering such low priced unlocked phones to try and get as many people into their ecosystem as possible. Ignoring CDMA users is not consistent with that, so just like before, it'll likely be 1 to 5 months before we see 32gb CDMA phones later on.
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You all don't remember that GSM Nexus devices always come out first. CDMA phones will most likely come out months later, and with higher storage to generate buzz. Google knows better than to shut out ~20 million subscribers.
I'm pretty confident they are offering such low priced unlocked phones to try and get as many people into their ecosystem as possible. Ignoring CDMA users is not consistent with that, so just like before, it'll likely be 1 to 5 months before we see 32gb CDMA phones later on.
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While I get where you're coming from, I completely disagree. Of course, I'm with a GSM carrier (and always have been), so I couldn't care less if they come out with a CDMA Nexus 4. Then again, I'm one of those people that don't believe the Galaxy Nexus offered by Verizon and Sprint was an actual Nexus device. If a phone's updates are coming from a carrier and not straight from Google...that's not a true Nexus and, frankly, you get what you deserve for thinking it is (in general terms...I'm not talking about you specifically).
I think all the reasons listed earlier are correct. I think Google got a bad taste in their mouths from having the carriers (re: Verizon and Sprint) dictate to them what they were going to do instead of the other way around. I also agree that CDMA is a dying technology and I'm also all for anything that bring that about faster. Wireless companies in the US need to get their #[email protected]% together and agree on a standard. All this GSM/CDMA/LTE crap is just confusing to consumers (not to me, but to uneducated consumers).
I firmly believe, though, that if you want a Nexus phone you need to get with a GSM carrier. Period. If by some miracle Google does release a CDMA version of the Nexus 4 later, I'll still believe you don't have a "true" Nexus phone. Only when the carriers have their hands off the updates can you actually make me believe a CDMA Nexus is a "real" Nexus.
I've been looking at the pre paid services but I have two lines since I pay for my mothers phone.
With the 1000 minute family plans it ends up making more sense for me to go that route since I'd get 2 free galaxy S2's.. One for her and I'd sell the other + my Sprint Galaxy s2 on eBay for my N4...
Very excited about moving back to T-mob after being on Sprint with **** service in my area for almost a year.
Please use the rant thread here or post in one of the review threads.
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Check it out:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/23/sprint-to-offer-iphone-5-in-october/
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pretty neat stuff
Well that network is really gonna be bogged down now.
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Well that network is really gonna be bogged down now.
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Not with all of the network upgrades Sprint is going through.
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My wife wants one...(gave the htc evo a shot but kept her blackberry in the end).
the question is...how much more will sprint hike its monthly prices for an iphone?
Sweet! Exactly what Apple needs. The more choices for the iPhone, the better. Sprint doesn't have a great many high-end phones but the iPhone should compensate for that.
BTW for apple lovers - IPhone 5 its supposed to support both systems CDMA and GSM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/238634/iphone_5_expected_to_have_dualmode_capabilities.html
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BTW for apple lovers - IPhone 5 its supposed to support both systems CDMA and GSM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/238634/iphone_5_expected_to_have_dualmode_capabilities.html
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It would probably be firmware dependent for whichever carrier it comes from. I can't see carriers going along with a phone that can be easily used on another network.
Hmmm who knows, maybe apple will make one iphone 5 that complies with GSM and CDMA bands for all the networks...somehow lock up the extra bands and use them for international roaming.
Wasn't Sprint supposedly going to announce some sort of great news this fall? I hope this wasn't their great news. I was hoping for a vast network upgrade. Iphone5 is the last thing that Sprint needs on their network. Very few have access to Sprints small 4G wimax network and the Iphone5 most likely won't be Wimax capable. Judging by the speed at which Sprint has rolled out their 4G, I doubt that their 3G network will be capable of handling the influx of Iphone fanboys. Sorry to be so negative, but I went through this same crap with AT&T back when they got the first Iphone and the network went to junk overnight.
I hope Sprint proves me wrong since I recently renewed my contract. Won't have to wait long to find out!
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Wasn't Sprint supposedly going to announce some sort of great news this fall? I hope this wasn't their great news. I was hoping for a vast network upgrade. Iphone5 is the last thing that Sprint needs on their network. Very few have access to Sprints small 4G wimax network and the Iphone5 most likely won't be Wimax capable. Judging by the speed at which Sprint has rolled out their 4G, I doubt that their 3G network will be capable of handling the influx of Iphone fanboys. Sorry to be so negative, but I went through this same crap with AT&T back when they got the first Iphone and the network went to junk overnight.
I hope Sprint proves me wrong since I recently renewed my contract. Won't have to wait long to find out!
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I agree!!!! They need to get these multimode towers and rev b and rolled out ASAP and move voice to old iden frequency if they expect to take on the iphone! cuz it wont be only current sprint customers looking to upgrade but undoubtedly some iphoners from at&t and maybe even verizon will jump ship to sprint for various reasons. Id estimate at least 10,000 iphones on sprint by the end of the year...
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I agree!!!! They need to get these multimode towers and rev b and rolled out ASAP and move voice to old iden frequency if they expect to take on the iphone! cuz it wont be only current sprint customers looking to upgrade but undoubtedly some iphoners from at&t and maybe even verizon will jump ship to sprint for various reasons. Id estimate at least 10,000 iphones on sprint by the end of the year...
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10,000 eh? LOL. Think in millions my friend.
And to the Guy who contemplated that they would charge more for iPhone than android.. they won't.
Personally I wouldn't want an iPhone over an android. Also I wouldn't want sprint over T-Mobile because of their high prices without reasoning.
Also, I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed that all carriers get the same hardware because it has cdma and GSM hardware, and each carrier will have their phones locked to their carrier. You will be able to buy unlocked phones(as you can any phone) and a carrier will of course be happy to set you up on their service. I don't think there is a valid reason this wouldn't be the case.
Apple made the move to cdma /GSM devices to avoid hardware fragmentation, that way ios works the same on all current devices, making it easier to upgrade ios and build apps for.
The single thing that makes ALL apple products outperform most competitors is that all of their devices only make up a few dozen hardware profiles, of which they support the 2-3 most recent. This is why ios4 only works on iphone3g and more recent, lion only works on more recent MacBook/airs/etc hardware.
Much easier to support a handful of hardware configurations(apple model) than hundreds/thousands of Chipset/hardware combinations(all PC's or androids). Apple realizes that limiting hardware combinations AND functionality will provide a more stable/smooth experience, be easier to keep updated, though less innovative(not allowing basic functions like saving and managing file system) and competitive. Hence why you kind of have to be in the apple cult or have a REAL use for their devices to desire it over a PC or android platform.
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10,000 eh? LOL. Think in millions my friend.
And to the Guy who contemplated that they would charge more for iPhone than android.. they won't.
Personally I wouldn't want an iPhone over an android. Also I wouldn't want sprint over T-Mobile because of their high prices without reasoning.
Also, I'm pretty sure it has been confirmed that all carriers get the same hardware because it has cdma and GSM hardware, and each carrier will have their phones locked to their carrier. You will be able to buy unlocked phones(as you can any phone) and a carrier will of course be happy to set you up on their service. I don't think there is a valid reason this wouldn't be the case.
Apple made the move to cdma /GSM devices to avoid hardware fragmentation, that way ios works the same on all current devices, making it easier to upgrade ios and build apps for.
The single thing that makes ALL apple products outperform most competitors is that all of their devices only make up a few dozen hardware profiles, of which they support the 2-3 most recent. This is why ios4 only works on iphone3g and more recent, lion only works on more recent MacBook/airs/etc hardware.
Much easier to support a handful of hardware configurations(apple model) than hundreds/thousands of Chipset/hardware combinations(all PC's or androids). Apple realizes that limiting hardware combinations AND functionality will provide a more stable/smooth experience, be easier to keep updated, though less innovative(not allowing basic functions like saving and managing file system) and competitive. Hence why you kind of have to be in the apple cult or have a REAL use for their devices to desire it over a PC or android platform.
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Lol i was being conservative in the fact that some androiders might stick with it rather than jumping ship but yea millions in prolly a more accurate number... i wish it wasn't cuz that means even slower 3g speeds compared to now... hopefully Sprint will grab the bull by the horns with this series of network upgrades to accomodate this new fanbase.
I can understand not just the iPhone phobia ...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20096567-94/sprint-iphone-brings-its-share-of-problems/
I currently have AT&T but need to switch to Verizon since AT&T has no coverage in an area I travel to frequently. What's the likelihood of the Note coming to Verizon?
With the recent announcement of the LTE Korean version the likelihood is much better, no? If not I may have to settle for the Nexus, which is not something I really want to do...
I highly doubt it.
Thanks for the response. Why do you doubt it?
He's probably just being sarcastic, I imagine this question gets asked a fair bit. I only chanced on this thread from a google search for any new news about the Note coming to the US on Verizon.
...And the latest is still "maybe"...Maybe now that they've released a Note with LTE, in South Korea, that a US release is forthcoming. Nothing is confirmed though and neither Samsung or Verizon are saying anything further.
I was incredibly close myself to getting the GSM/HSPA version of the Note, figuring on getting whatever the cheapest service from AT&T is...But AT&T just started "turning on" their LTE service in NYC area and the Note isn't capable of using it.
...And so I too am waiting to see what the story is/will-be with Verizon.
Plus it looks like the LTE 7003 will only have the single core cpu and older gpu... I wonder why?
Verizon or TMobile or bust...
I mean that seriously, I will use AT&T over my cold dead rotting corpse...
There is NOTHING you could do besides give me everything (phone/plan/yearsofservice) FREE to get me to use AT&T... been there, done that, have to suffer with them for home phone/dsl (and no, no-one else services my area, not even SAT), dont plan on making it any worse then I have to...
I mean, hell, they yet again managed to get ranked WORST in customer satisfaction for the last 2 years solid... and more even before that...
At this point, I am willing to suffer with no 3G on TMo then not... WiFi FTW!
I have mine at Tmobile. I get 15kb down on edge. Its fine for gps and stuff, big stuff on wifi tho but i pay 50 bucks only.
I have had a great experience with AT&T. I am currently using a iPad SIM in my Note. I get 6 down and 1.5 up, which is no better then my iPhone 4 got...but it's more then adequate for surfing. Google Voice for text, GroovIP for voice. $30 a month(grandfather iPad Unlimited) Though $25 a month for 2 gigs is still reasonable I think.
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I have mine at Tmobile. I get 15kb down on edge. Its fine for gps and stuff, big stuff on wifi tho but i pay 50 bucks only.
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thats not bad actually, and if you use google maps/navigation you can use the labs "preload" and not require all that much anyway!...
the scale keeps tipping towards GNote-ON-TMo... Voice+EDGE wont be so bad since I use WiFi 95% of the time anyway...
Oh and I could switch to the "off" carrier for TMobile, ergo SimpleMobile and pay even less!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
Pretty good article explaining why lte on a Nexus 4 doesn't make any sense for any potential whiners out there
Google wants direct control of the software on Nexus devices with no carrier intervention. That alone means Google can't sell an LTE device, as there's simply no access to LTE networks without working with carriers in one way or another: Verizon and Sprint's LTE networks still require compatibility with their 3G CDMA systems, and there's essentially no such thing as an unlocked CDMA device. AT&T's fledgling LTE network runs on different frequencies than other LTE networks around the world, so Google would have to build a custom phone for just 77 markets in the US. Doing that without AT&T's financial assistance makes little sense.
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Also it explains it pretty well why they didn't make the same mistake by going CDMA like they did on the Galaxy Nexus.
And there's precious little to suggest working with carriers is even in Google's best interests, or in the best interests of Nexus customers. The Galaxy Nexus was announced last year with a promised LTE version on Verizon, but the carrier held back releasing the phone for months to promote its own Droid RAZR instead. Google eventually grew tired of waiting and sent unlocked HSPA+ devices to reviewers. And software updates for Nexus phones sold through carriers have been problematic as well: it took the Verizon three full months to disseminate the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update to its Galaxy Nexus, slightly longer than Sprint.
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All accurate, a good summary.
With its pricing of the Nexus 4 and lack of LTE, Google is quite clearly giving US carriers the finger. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if a CDMA/LTE version appeared for Verizon and Sprint, but LTE doesn't really matter that much if you get decent 3G/3.5G/HSPA+ whatever you want to call it (i.e., not Verizon or Sprint 3G).
Really, anything over a few Mbps is enough for me...but I know other people use their phones differently.
While making a call on the EvoLTE i had 3G/LTE and i could still use the internet but on the HTC ONE this seems to be a problem even if i dont answer. My tethering will stop and my 3G will be disabled. Is it my ROM, Sprint, HTC or just me
The One does not have SV-DO like the EVO LTE did. They wanted the EVO to have SV-DO because Sprint's LTE network was still in its nascency when the phone came out and they thought that the ability to do voice and data simultaneously would ease their customers' complaints.
The One does not have this ability because both antennae can be used for LTE to minimize RF fade, which enables the One to have better LTE reception than the EVO did. The One does, however, feature SV-LTE, so you can do voice and data when connected to LTE.
Here is an article with a lot more info: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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HTC is stupid
OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid phone iphone wannabe clone.
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Good luck with that; none of Sprint's phones feature SV-DO anymore. No, there is no way around this that I know of. Wow... and that's your first post on XDA.
Disgusting and a slap in the face to many by Sprint and HTC
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Good luck with that; none of Sprint's phones feature SV-DO anymore. No, there is no way around this that I know of. Wow... and that's your first post on XDA.
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#1 Yes its my first post but I've been a silent member and supporter for a few years now. #2 This should have been made clear and the fact that it passed by me shows it wasn't because I would have never gotten this phone if that was the case. #3 I'm not under any Sprint contract anymore and can go to AT&T where I'm sure GSM can deliver both voice and text quite nicely and with ease and that SG4 at least has removable storage unlike this dumb iphone wannabe. And last but not least #4 I just got off the phone with Sprint and they're sending me a free HTC EVO LTE for the bother and trouble they've caused me by being idiots for not having LTE towers in my area.
When everything switches to LTE everywhere around the country then only will this phone be perfect. Until then it sucks and I can't wait to get back to my sense 4.0 with my good ol' message,music,email,bookmark,and note widgets HTC were best known for back in their prime. After bragging how much this phone crapped over the SG4 and anything apple could ever put out I'm ashamed and disappointed in Sprint and HTC.
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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Which is why I made Sprint send me a free new EVO LTE. Now I know I will always need a secondary phone until the year 2020 when LTE covers the globe. Knowing how slow Sprint is with their coverage and towers.
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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i guess they figure it's not important w/ 4g being more ubiquitous. 4g and talk does work. I never use the feature myself.
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i guess they figure it's not important w/ 4g being more ubiquitous. 4g and talk does work. I never use the feature myself.
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Yeah I don't see the big deal, it's a cool feature but nothin to get all crazy over. I wouldn't even want to be with Sprint if they didn't have 4g all over my city anyway because their 3g sucks big time.
Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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#1 Yes its my first post but I've been a silent member and supporter for a few years now. #2 This should have been made clear and the fact that it passed by me shows it wasn't because I would have never gotten this phone if that was the case.
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The fact that you know how to flash ROMs and mod your phone does not mean you have done proper research. Obviously, people knew that the One was not going to be SV-DO before it came out, as evidenced by the article that I posted above. SV-DO was somewhat of a surprise feature on the EVO LTE and Galaxy S3 when they were first announced and the FCC filings were reviewed. Anyone who knew anything about CDMA should've known this, yourself included.
What concerns me further is the fact that you've been coming to XDA for years yet still make generalizations like this:
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#3 I'm not under any Sprint contract anymore and can go to AT&T where I'm sure GSM can deliver both voice and text quite nicely and with ease and that SG4 at least has removable storage unlike this dumb iphone wannabe.
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You're right, GSM will support voice and data on the SGS4, just like it would on a GSM HTC One. But really? Comparing the One to the iPhone? Yes, I do wish that it had external storage, but I'm getting along just fine without it. As an Android phone, however, it is just as customizable as the SGS4. But, what I'm curious about is why you even bothered with this phone if you spent so much time on XDA as you claimed above? Surely, you knew that this phone did not have expandable storage or a removeable battery, so I'm confused as to why you even mentioned those shortcomings here, to say nothing of actually buying the phone.
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And last but not least #4 I just got off the phone with Sprint and they're sending me a free HTC EVO LTE for the bother and trouble they've caused me by being idiots for not having LTE towers in my area.
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I might be misunderstanding this, but according to #3, you're not under a Sprint contract any longer, so why are they sending you a free EVO?
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When everything switches to LTE everywhere around the country then only will this phone be perfect. Until then it sucks and I can't wait to get back to my sense 4.0 with my good ol' message,music,email,bookmark,and note widgets HTC were best known for back in their prime. After bragging how much this phone crapped over the SG4 and anything apple could ever put out I'm ashamed and disappointed in Sprint and HTC.
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Again, I can understand the fundamental limits that Sprint's network currently imposes on the One, but I'm confused as to why you are blaming HTC.
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Which is why I made Sprint send me a free new EVO LTE. Now I know I will always need a secondary phone until the year 2020 when LTE covers the globe. Knowing how slow Sprint is with their coverage and towers.
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This is just outright confusing. You are clearly indicating that you plan on holding onto the EVO LTE until 2020. Do you know how useless your phone will be by then? If your battery manages to still be useful until then, the phone will be wildly outdated simply with respect to the frequencies it has access to. The EVO and One can only run on Sprint's 1900MHz LTE network. Sprint is currently rolling out LTE on their 800MHz and 2500MHz frequencies. Sprint will start selling tri-band phones optimized for all 3 of their LTE bands late this year/early next year (they're already selling hotspots for them). By then, a number of carriers (Sprint included) will be moving on to Vo-LTE making this entire issue moot. I don't even think Sprint will be transmitting 1xAdvanced by that point, so voice on the EVO LTE might not even work.
By the way, I see you've started to spread your disease to other threads, I'm going to be following you, cleaning up your mess.
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Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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With CDMA carriers adopting LTE, this will become less of an issue as all of Sprint's LTE phones support SV-LTE. Once Sprint transmits on all of its available spectrum, and once their network upgrades are complete, LTE will be pretty much everywhere that Sprint has 3G now. However, if you can't wait a year for their tri-band phones to come out, then you gotta do what you gotta do...
adios
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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c ya :crying:
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With CDMA carriers adopting LTE, this will become less of an issue as all of Sprint's LTE phones support SV-LTE. Once Sprint transmits on all of its available spectrum, and once their network upgrades are complete, LTE will be pretty much everywhere that Sprint has 3G now. However, if you can't wait a year for their tri-band phones to come out, then you gotta do what you gotta do...
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They tell me they'll have LTE everywhere they have 3G. But they don't have 3G anywhere! It's all name sake! Most of the time I can't even do a speed test!
Sprint has terrible coverage, even in huge covered markets like San Francisco. The speeds there were pathetic, ranging between 2 and 5 megs. If that's the best Sprint can do, while advertising speeds of around 20 megs, they should be sued for every dollar (or yen, I guess) they have.
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They tell me they'll have LTE everywhere they have 3G. But they don't have 3G anywhere! It's all name sake! Most of the time I can't even do a speed test!
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I can't speak for San Francisco's network state, but if it is anything like Chicago was at your level of deployment, I can tell you that it's going to get a LOT better. EV-DO (3G) was BLAZING here between 2006-2009. Back then, I was regularly getting between 1-2Mbps, then it started dropping to 10-300Kbps (yes, 10Kbps). Now, when I don't get LTE (which isn't often now that Chicago is nearly done), my EV-DO is sill around 1Mbps, which is totally useable.
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NV Sites Accepted = 69%
LTE Sites Accepted = 49%
Anticipated LTE Launch = Fall 2013 (North Bay launched 12/2012, East Bay 2/2013)
Original Scheduled Completion = July 2013
Current Production Rate Completion = January 2014
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SOURCE:http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
This is as of July 29. You should note that "LTE Sites Accepted" does not necessarily mean it's transmitting LTE yet, so the actual percentage is probably lower lower. This is where I have some trouble defending Sprint; they announce a market as "launched" when only a fraction of the towers are transmitting LTE.
Given the nature of LTE, it is a much more fragile airlink than EV-DO. Given the same frequency, LTE will drop before EV-DO does. That being said, 1900MHz LTE should be available around 80-90% of the places that 1900MHz EV-DO is. Once Sprint begins transmitting on 800MHz, the increased penetration means that LTE should be available everywhere 1900MHz EV-DO is now. So, if you're in a spot where you have the "3G" icon but you aren't able to get any data through, that means you're connected to a tower that has not received Network Vision upgrades. Once the NV upgrades are complete for 1900MHz, you should get useable 3G at a minimum. Once the tower starts transmitting LTE on 800MHz (assuming you have a compatible device by then), you should receive LTE.
SOURCE:http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1771-lte-700/?p=37464
sauprankul said:
Sprint has terrible coverage, even in huge covered markets like San Francisco. The speeds there were pathetic, ranging between 2 and 5 megs. If that's the best Sprint can do, while advertising speeds of around 20 megs, they should be sued for every dollar (or yen, I guess) they have.
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I'm assuming that 2-5Mbps is when you're connected to LTE, right? EV-DO Rev. A maxes out at a theoretical 3.2Mbps. I'm not really sure what you're doing that you need more than 2-5Mbps, but once all the backhaul is complete, you should be getting 6-8Mbps with low latency. Where did you get 20Mbps, just out of curiosity? I've never seen that number... The maximum theoretical throughput of Sprint's 1900MHz LTE on a 5x5 carrier is 37.5Mbps, though real-world should be what I said earlier.
SOURCE: http://gigaom.com/2012/07/16/sprint-launches-lte-in-clusters-promises-6-8-mbps-speeds/
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Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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I wouldn't be on sprint if i wasn't on a large family plan (that i don't pay a dime for). When the time comes to pay for my own service, i'll probably go unlocked on T-mobile if they have good Chicagoland and Michigan coverage.
I love HTC phones (because of how clean sense is) and I love Sprint (for their unlimited data only). Heres what I hate about them both...Sprint is clearly the weakest out of all the carriers but they make up for it with unlimited data plans. For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*! Theres no way Sprint will have country wide coverage of their LTE service even in the next 5 years and if so it will be spotty as HELL. I think its a slap in the face to many of their loyal customers who still live in rural/farm/or dense suburb areas. I haven't seen anything this stupid since the unveil of XBOX ONE! Sprint better take a note from Microsoft and reverse this $hit very fast because when people come out of their 2 year contracts from the EVO LTE and SG3 they're gonna be pissed when they find out their new upgrades can't do what their old phones can.
Screw what you and I know now about the tech subhuman. The fact of the matter is the mass general consumers of Sprint have no idea about the tech inside the phone. They will just expect their new powerful phones to be able to do what their old phones use to do. For Sprint sake they better have LTE towers up every damn where in the year or all HELL will break loose. Sprint is going to lose a lot of costumers to AT&T.
Now onto the HTC hate. For some reason HTC keeps dropping the damn ball with their phones and software (sense). For every step they take forward they cut off a limb. The built in battery $hit and no SD card expansion are stupid things I've grown to make fun of Apple fanboys for but now I find myself on the other side of the fence because I trusted HTC to show Apple they could do exactly what they're doing and beat them in quality....HOW FOOLISH WAS I TO THINK THAT! The whole unibody thing is neat and the front speakers are amazing but thats where the HTC ONE stops becoming awesome. SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
I have 5 Sprint lines open and one of them is the new HTC ONE which is the only one under a new contract. I still have 8 days to cancel it if I choose to. I personally use 3 of the lines which are all rooted HTC phones. The original EVO 4G,EVO LTE,and now the ONE. Its amazing how the original EVO still has a better 3G connection than its newer cousins and can download files faster using wifi tether. It just pisses me off that Sprint didn't care enough to include all their handsets with their best 3G services (for voice and data) until they figured out all this stupid LTE placement.
Now thanks to Subhuman I'm more educated on all the frequencies and radios that go in these new phones vs the old. I know the phone is capable of sending text while on a call now but only on LTE. But I have a few questions/request that will help me determine if I will keep the HTC ONE now. As of right now I'm using the phone as a Windows 8 wannabe with the Launcher 8 app (I know, I know, I'm lame) Please help me out if you can.
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
My Motorola photon q 4g lte was able to use 3g while on the phone. Seems like we're taking a step backwards, doesn't it?
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For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*!
SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
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First the ability to talk and use data on 3G (SVDO) not being included had nothing to with Sprint or HTC. It's because Qualcomm changed that. Read that article from s4gru referenced earlier.
The general concesus was that Sense was to gaudy and intrusive, that was always what most people said in critism to HTC, Sense 5 changed alot to be smaller, less intrusive, and also conform more to Android (Googles) Holo look and feel. As such, lots of the widget were taken out, but most of the critics have been positive in reference to Sense 5.
1. Sense 4 widgets will not work on the Sense 5 framework and would require lots of work if they were even to ever work. No one seems willing to do that work since you are the first I've seen to want it.
2. I don't have a Media link, but do you have the H200 or H300. I H300 is the new one that came as a bonus on the AT&T preordered Ones. Maybe the problem is you are using the H200.
3. The One is USB 2.0 so maybe that's why? IDK
4. Are you running an adblock app? This has been linked to popping or skipping in Pandora.
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First the ability to talk and use data on 3G (SVDO) not being included had nothing to with Sprint or HTC. It's because Qualcomm changed that. Read that article from s4gru referenced earlier.
The general concesus was that Sense was to gaudy and intrusive, that was always what most people said in critism to HTC, Sense 5 changed alot to be smaller, less intrusive, and also conform more to Android (Googles) Holo look and feel. As such, lots of the widget were taken out, but most of the critics have been positive in reference to Sense 5.
1. Sense 4 widgets will not work on the Sense 5 framework and would require lots of work if they were even to ever work. No one seems willing to do that work since you are the first I've seen to want it.
2. I don't have a Media link, but do you have the H200 or H300. I H300 is the new one that came as a bonus on the AT&T preordered Ones. Maybe the problem is you are using the H200.
3. The One is USB 2.0 so maybe that's why? IDK
4. Are you running an adblock app? This has been linked to popping or skipping in Pandora.
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@1. You didn't like the ease of the Sense 4.0 widgets O_O wow?! As much as I hear people cry about the blinkfeed it would seem they would want proper widgets back. Anyway I'm no a dev and I'm hoping someone good like Flex360 or another dev would go through the trouble of making them work on SENSE 5.0 I'd donate a nice amount of money for something like that.
@2. I probably have the H200 but I did do an update last night so it should be on par with the 300 now.
@3. Maybe thats the reason but I just find it always slower to copy to the device that has built in storage rather than the device that has a removable sd card slot. Its like that slow Apple syncing crap from itunes. I really don't get why its like that even on other devices. I copied 1.90GB yesterday to the HTC ONE (pics,music,etc) it took about an hour to transfer. If I was transferring that same amount to an SD card (like in my EVO LTE) it would take 8-10 min the most.
@4. No I'm not running any kind of adblock I don't think unless Flex360's Stock with goodies rom has a native adblock built in.
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I love HTC phones (because of how clean sense is) and I love Sprint (for their unlimited data only). Heres what I hate about them both...Sprint is clearly the weakest out of all the carriers but they make up for it with unlimited data plans. For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*!
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Please, try to understand the reason WHY they no longer support SV-DO. Using multiple antennae for LTE will increase LTE reception. What’s better, spotty LTE with SV-DO or a solid LTE connection without SV-DO? Assume you're on a fringe LTE area.
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Theres no way Sprint will have country wide coverage of their LTE service even in the next 5 years and if so it will be spotty as HELL. I think its a slap in the face to many of their loyal customers who still live in rural/farm/or dense suburb areas. I haven't seen anything this stupid since the unveil of XBOX ONE! Sprint better take a note from Microsoft and reverse this $hit very fast because when people come out of their 2 year contracts from the EVO LTE and SG3 they're gonna be pissed when they find out their new upgrades can't do what their old phones can.
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Sprint will be done with round 1 of Network Vision by the end, if not the middle, of 2014. They started rolling out LTE in late 2011 and are currently done with just over half of their 39,000 sites. All but roughly 100 (0.25%) of those 39,000 sites will not receive LTE because of licensing agreements or regulatory issues. I’m sorry, but I can’t give you more details than that because I’m getting this information from the Sponsor section of S4GRU.com. As I said above, on 1900MHz alone, LTE will cover 80-90% of the places that you’re getting 3G. As for the places where you can get 3G but no useable speed, you will get useable 3G, but it will unfortunately lack SV-DO. By 2015, Sprint will have 800MHz LTE on about 80% of its 39,000 sites, increasing LTE penetration and covering pretty much everywhere that is now 3G.
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Screw what you and I know now about the tech subhuman. The fact of the matter is the mass general consumers of Sprint have no idea about the tech inside the phone. They will just expect their new powerful phones to be able to do what their old phones use to do. For Sprint sake they better have LTE towers up every damn where in the year or all HELL will break loose. Sprint is going to lose a lot of costumers to AT&T.
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Looking solely at a phone’s ability to do simultaneous voice and data, AT&T does have Sprint beat, but honestly, so few people actually use this that it will not be an issue. You seem to be an outlier, wanting to use your phone while tethering. How many of the “mass general customers” tether their phones? Most of the people that you’re talking about don’t even know what “tethering” is. Additionally, voice is being used less and less, which is why so many carriers are practically giving it away. For most people, the few minutes per day that people spend talking on their phones won’t impact their ability to use data because they’ll probably be walking or driving while talking. Once the LTE rollouts are complete, it will be a non-issue because all phones will support SV-LTE.
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Now onto the HTC hate. For some reason HTC keeps dropping the damn ball with their phones and software (sense). For every step they take forward they cut off a limb. The built in battery $hit and no SD card expansion are stupid things I've grown to make fun of Apple fanboys for but now I find myself on the other side of the fence because I trusted HTC to show Apple they could do exactly what they're doing and beat them in quality....HOW FOOLISH WAS I TO THINK THAT! The whole unibody thing is neat and the front speakers are amazing but thats where the HTC ONE stops becoming awesome.
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I can agree with you here to an extent. When I first made the jump from Windows Mobile (not Windows Phone) to back in 2010, I considered both the iPhone and Android. I hated the locked-down philosophy that Apple had both in terms of hardware and software. I very much dislike being denied the ability to expand storage or swap batteries.
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SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
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The word “elegance” implies tasteful and simple, generally speaking. If HTC were to continue piling on superfluous options, it would be at odds with elegance. I think HTC believes that there are now enough options in the Play store that they can back off and allow people to choose what they want from there. I think that Beautiful Widgets is itself a testament to HTC’s prior genius; those widgets are obviously inspired by Sense. Which widgets are you missing, exactly?
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I have 5 Sprint lines open and one of them is the new HTC ONE which is the only one under a new contract. I still have 8 days to cancel it if I choose to. I personally use 3 of the lines which are all rooted HTC phones. The original EVO 4G,EVO LTE,and now the ONE. Its amazing how the original EVO still has a better 3G connection than its newer cousins and can download files faster using wifi tether. It just pisses me off that Sprint didn't care enough to include all their handsets with their best 3G services (for voice and data) until they figured out all this stupid LTE placement.
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The difference in performance is a little strange, I will grant that. The One’s 3G connection should be at least on par with the original EVO. Personally, I have not noticed any difference, though my one is a clear step up from my EVO LTE.
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Now thanks to Subhuman I'm more educated on all the frequencies and radios that go in these new phones vs the old. I know the phone is capable of sending text while on a call now but only on LTE. But I have a few questions/request that will help me determine if I will keep the HTC ONE now. As of right now I'm using the phone as a Windows 8 wannabe with the Launcher 8 app (I know, I know, I'm lame) Please help me out if you can.
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The One is capable of sending a text while on a call without being connected to LTE, I just did it.
Android-X said:
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
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1.) It might be best to search the Play store for the specific widgets that you need.
2.) I’m sorry, but I am unfamiliar with Media Link.
3.) This is a hassle, and loading everything on the phone typically takes time. I just mount it as an external drive and copy/paste, then leave it for the 45 minutes or so that it needs. I’ve never used HTC Sync, but for my photos, I have it set up so that it auto-uploads to Dropbox every time I connect to my Wi-Fi.
4.) This happens to me as well on YouTube, typically on slower connections. I think it has something to do with the buffering and/or compression.
tetrabyt said:
My Motorola photon q 4g lte was able to use 3g while on the phone. Seems like we're taking a step backwards, doesn't it?
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The Photon Q was another phone that supported SV-DO, so all these arguments apply to that phone as well.
As a Verizon User, I was so ready for the Nexus 5 to come out on Verizon and when it didn't, yet the hardware supported it, I knew there had to be a way to get this device to run on Verizon's Network. So, naturally I looked around on Forums and such and here is what we know right now:
- The WTR1625L Built by Qualcomm (The Same chip in the G2) Does in fact have hardware support for Verizon
- The Nexus 5 DOES recognize Verizon as a network and has even allowed some users to browse on Band 4 LTE Shown here
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847&page=32)
- CDMA Voice and Band 13 Currently do not work (As Expected)
- A User named Ken GS4 over on the Google Forums here, was in fact able to have his Nexus 5's IMEI registered and active inside of Verizon's Database, and then theoretically, should "Activate". Now, Ken has stated that the phone would not work on CDMA or Band 13 however he does not live in a band 4 area and was unable to check on that
(http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/Jv9FAwucMWM/7pIfTKxY5yUJ)
- Additionally, Ken had stated that the Verizon Wireless employees told him that on their end everything checked out and so, it had to be something in the Firmware that would be blocking it
- Some users on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847 have attempted flashing the LG G2 Radios at no avail, so unless those files are heavily modded in order to allow the Nexus 5 to turn on without a boot loop, that solution is out.
So, It looks as though all of us Verizon Users need a developer to look deep into the code, find what is blocking the Verizon network, and create a flashable zip which could remedy the solution and allow the WTR1625L to work as it does in the G2 but without any blockage. Now, developers, as we know, are busy and need to put food on the table. So, I propose we start a kickstarter/IndieGogo Campaign, along with a WILLING DEVELOPER, and have all of us Verizon users put our money where our mouths are. We would need to raise enough money to get a Developer a Nexus 5, and enough for a Verizon plan for at least a month, along with some extra cash to allow him/her to have payment for completing this incredibly large task. So, We are calling out to you, THE DEVELOPERS, to contact me so I can create a kickstarter/indiegogo campaign in your name, so that you can raise enough money to help all of us Get This Phone working on Big Red!!!
Screw Verizon. I left them after 5 years of sh!tty droid phones. I even had grandfathered unlimited data.
N5->VZW=Headache
Solution :
Sell N5 + Buy VZW G2=No Headache
Just sayin....
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Nexus will never "officially" be on Verizon again
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
It will probably never happen I was with VZW for 10 years and I just switched to att and its been so much better just get out if u can.
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If Verizon wanted the phone on their network they would have made a deal with LG/Google to do so legally. It seems to me an attempt to hack software to allow a phone to operate on a private company's bandwidth smacks of being illegal. If they wanted it, it would already be there. If you love the phone, take it where it works. If you live VZW, then pick something in their product line.
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
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And THIS is the reason I am switching to T-Mo next month after 15 years with VZW. The GNex debacle was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Can't wait to have a REAL Nexus.
sorry verizon people, your just going to have to accept that verizon will not ever get a nexus device, due to how they handled the galaxy nexus. And they shouldnt after that.(
I left verizon & unlimited data about a month & a half ago. Sure, I hated to lose unlimited data. But, I wanted the N5. Sometimes you have to make hard decisions. Give up the good fight with verizon, you will not prevail. Leave as soon as you can if you can have good service with another provider.
um, WTR1625L is the transceiver. there are other components that need to be compatible (modem which is inside the snapdragon 800 chip, antennas)
you probably need to modify modem as well.... good luck finding the source code (FCC regulates the baseband) or hacking it
I'm gone from Verizon too. Have only found one place where I get no signal on tmo and in fact have a better signal in my office than I ever did on vzw. To the poster above, why would you lose unlimited? I'm on prepaid unlimited everything. Don't miss vzw too much. They won't legally allow a true nexus on their network any time soon so if you want a nexus you better be prepared to leave big red...
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A lot of people don't seem to understand that Verizon throttles people's bandwith once they hit a certain limit on their data. It's still unlimited, but you'll be getting it a lot slower eventually if you use a lot of data. The same goes with any "unlimited" data plan from prepaid carriers these days, you typically pay for a certain amount of data at "full 4G/LTE speeds" and then once you hit that limit, you get throttled down to a slower download and upload rate.
I'm on Aio Wireless and get 8+/- mbps on LTE (They cap you at 8mbps on LTE), but once I hit my limit, I go to 256kbps which is still plenty fast enough to surf the web. You're not going to stream netflix in HD off of that little bandwith, but for many people it'll do the job just fine for facebook, surfing the web, checking emails, etc.
I left Verizon a year ago, and I'll never go back to them ever. Even if they lowered their prices to be competitive with T-Mobile or other prepaid carriers, it's not worth their bloatware loaded phones, cdma network, or software update timeline.
Verizon will never get a nexus. Nor do they deserve one. They hold off updates etc. And that's not what a nexus is about. I had unlimited data on Verizon. And was with then for 10+ years. Sold my **** and left. Got straight talk using att towers. It's been a month and I'm much better off.
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A bit of an analogous story, I bought an HP touchpad during the firesale and the community back then was so hellbent on getting android to work on the HP tablet because the native webos was a dying ecosystem. Lo and behold a bunch of developers actually managed to get Android onto the HP touchpad but it didn't run very well because the touchpad's hardware wasn't optimized for android to begin with. It was a crappy, unstable experience.
Alot of credit and Kudos go to the developers who made this possible, however. Those guys were amazing but the long and short of it is that you're going to be making a huge effort to get a subpar experience. If you can't break from the Verizon network, you might as well just get something which is officially supported or naively runs on the Verizon network.
TLR you're putting a bunch of effort in achieving a subpar experience at best.
Just leave Verizon. They charge way too much and have crap phones. Jump ship to T-Mobile or att
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Jesus people just don't understand. it's technically just not feasible to use it on Verizon.
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I left verizon for ATT and am not looking back. I used to love verizon becuase of the great service but ATT has the same if not better service. I even left with a corporate discount and unlimited data. The Nexus 5 was just worth it.
Another one here that left a corporate discount and grandfathered unlimited data just to have an unadulterated Android experience with the Nexus 5. I miss the unlimited 4G and that there were more LTE towers for verizon in my area but it was a sacrifice I had to make. Saves me some $$ in the long run and I have a much better phone because of it.
why do people insist that this is possible? it's not going to work, just move on to another carrier.