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Returning the Bionic because of it's cheap screen

Simple story
T-Mobile is going to have Samsung Galaxy S II
Sprint is going to have Samsung Galaxy S II
Those carriers have A LOT of devices, Verizon has ONE, and it came 6 MONTHS LATE
Anyway, I waited all these months, and yesterday I signed a new 2 year contract and spent $329
Now, I just bought a Samsung Galaxy S 10.1, and man, that screen is second to none
Samsung just knows how to do a nice screen
Bevore I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, I had the Asus Eee Pad, and I returned that
Not because the Samsung has the better screen, but because the Samsung weight is SO LIGHT that I was attracted to that table
Now this Motorola Droid Bionic is a little on the heavy side, but I don't care about that
But, from my point of view, even though the speed is stupidly high (14Mbps)
I just feel like this screen is cheap
In THEORY, this screen is BETTER than the Samsung Galaxy SII, it has a bigger resolution
but when I move an icon (say I'm rearranging icons in the home screen)
I do like Verizon because it allows me to use 5,7,10 GB of bandwidth
Also Verizon is like $50 cheaper per month since my family already has a plan with Verizon
However, let's suppose that for the next 6 months I have to chose between
Verizon with this Bionic
Tmobile with Samsung Galaxy S II
Sprint with Samsung Galaxy S II
I don't like that with T-Mobile as soon as I enter BestBuy, WalMart, Fry's... the connection speed drops to levels of being 95% useless.
Now, I haven't tested Verizon, but if they took 6 months to bring this piece of crap to my hands, then I don't want to comit to their expensive $350 termination fee
I would be happy with Verizon and Samsung Galaxy SII, but of course, that combo doesn't exist
I live in Orange, CA
Any suggestions?
Anybody else this is the cheapest piece of screen EVER?
OR it's only me?

Verizon only has one phone? I could have sworn I saw about 50 of them on the walls.

then goto another carrier. personally I dont see what the big deal about the screen is. I had a charge and the screen was nice the hardware inside not so much. I also had a xperia play that was true junk. I like my bionic as it fits my needs thats not to say my wife wont end up with it if verizon gets the prime. but for now I like the bionic.

No offense but I have to say this....changing carriers to an inferior carrier just for a device is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.....enjoy your 2 bars at best
My advice....wait for roms
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If u want we could trade my charge for ur bionic, if ur not so happy with it.
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I'm probably taking mine back.
I hate this screen. Yes, I came off a Samsung too.
I don't really have anything bad to say about the phone otherwise. It's really good. However, for what I paid for the phone (paid full retail), I don't want to feel like I'm looking at a washed out cheese grater.
Roms aren't going to help that.
I'll probably go back to my Fascinate for another month or two until either the Vigor or Prime come out.

Haters gonna hate.
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Hi guys, don't hurt me but I really don't understand where the people complaining about the screen are coming from. I mean, if I put my nose within 5 inches of the screen I guess I can see some pixelation, but I don't operate my phone from that distance so I don't have a chance of seeing it in normal use. Am I some troglodyte, or is this problem related only to some phones?
I also haven't had the issue where restarting causes you to lose aps.

I suspect that people who really flip out over the super AMOLED screens are those to whom over-saturated colors are most appealing (my wife is one of those), and those who are ambivalent or even turned off by the screens are those who are more attracted to desaturated or "mature" colors. I'm one of the latter, as I well know by having spent a lot of time picking out colors in my local home improvement store and analyzing why certain colors appealed to me and others did not. Consequently, I harmonize with the pentile screens better than with the AMOLED ones.
I don't believe the SG Tab 10.1 has a super AMOLED screen, so I doubt a reaction to that tablet is relevant from a screen perspective. I believe the 7.7" version is supposed to have one though.
I know it seems like Verizon isn't getting all the best phones, what with the Atrix hitting AT&T months and months ago and them not getting the SGSII at all, which was a great disappointment. But things have a way of leveling off over time. Another thing is that we focus so hard on the phone that's just around the corner that we forget what's already there. Verizon had two solid entries in the 4G LTE world, the Thunderbolt and the Charge before the Bionic was released. Both are very solid devices and have faster network than any other domestic phones.
And then we've got stuff coming down the pipe like the Vigor and a new Moto phone toward the end of the year, plus some beast from Samsung and perhaps even the Nexus. A year ago, when the X came out, it seemed like Verizon owned the Android world. But the pendulum swings, and in this industry it swings really fast. I think that your reasons for picking a carrier are far more important than any single phone, and that it's probably wise to see it through unless there are very strong reasons beside the phone to jump ship.
One other thing. It's a lot less trouble for you and a lot less expensive for Verizon if you research and test drive the phones and tablets you're considering before you buy them, and avoid having to return them. That drives prices up for everyone, and it's not necessary if you have a retail location in your area where you can see the devices in person. It also wastes less of your time. I'm not preaching at you, my friend, just putting some thoughts out there to ponder.

Moto's pentile screens are pretty washed out, but that's not even what I can't stand about them; I can't stand the pentile sub-pixel layout. I hated AMOLEDs when they used a pentile format (Galaxy S, Nexus S for starters). The SAMOLED+ completely solved the "bug screen" issue by using a traditional striped sub-pixel pattern. It's a wonderful thing, and I hope pentile goes the way of the dodo soon. I was about to get a Bionic until I played with the screen a bit. There's no way I could live with it.

Honestly, are half of the people in this thread joking?
Life lessons:
You cannot have it all.
Most likely, the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence.

idefiler6 said:
Haters gonna hate.
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It's not a matter of being a hater. I bought it. I gave it a shot. It doesn't work for me. I take it back and get something else later.
I don't see how that's being a hater, unless you're saying I should stick with a phone I'm not happy with simply to be in the club.
Immolate said:
I suspect that people who really flip out over the super AMOLED screens are those to whom over-saturated colors are most appealing (my wife is one of those), and those who are ambivalent or even turned off by the screens are those who are more attracted to desaturated or "mature" colors. I'm one of the latter, as I well know by having spent a lot of time picking out colors in my local home improvement store and analyzing why certain colors appealed to me and others did not. Consequently, I harmonize with the pentile screens better than with the AMOLED ones.
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While I found the lack of color saturation mildly annoying, it was something that I could deal with. I had lasik done so my vision's very sharp and can pick up a lot of minute detail. I'm not saying I'm eagle eyed by any stretch of the imagination, but the acuity is good enough that I notice the checkerboard all the time. Others eyes are built differently like you said, so they pick up on different things.
One other thing. It's a lot less trouble for you and a lot less expensive for Verizon if you research and test drive the phones and tablets you're considering before you buy them, and avoid having to return them. That drives prices up for everyone, and it's not necessary if you have a retail location in your area where you can see the devices in person. It also wastes less of your time. I'm not preaching at you, my friend, just putting some thoughts out there to ponder.
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I think that's generally a fair statement. Thing is though, when you're on the borderline, it takes more than just 10 minutes playing with it to get an idea if something is tolerable or not in the long run. The more I worked with the phone, the more I found that it was a deal breaker despite the other positives of the phone. I still lose some money, and the restocking fee is reasonable. And I'm sure Verizon factors in a certain amount of returns into their pricing as well.
I can see why Moto made the choice they did considering the energy savings. Just doesn't work for me. If the Droid HD comes out, or whatever they call it and it has the issue resolved, I'd give Moto another shot assuming the phone's at least rootable.

LocoFreek25 said:
Honestly, are half of the people in this thread joking?
Life lessons:
You cannot have it all.
Most likely, the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence.
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It's not about having it all. It's about being able to accept trade offs in something. What one person will accept is different than what another will.
I'm sure there will be trade offs with other phones too. They'll just be different.

Lucky for you Verizon has a 14day no worry policy so there you go.... may be a way around the termination fee...

Superguy said:
I'm probably taking mine back.
I hate this screen. Yes, I came off a Samsung too.
I don't really have anything bad to say about the phone otherwise. It's really good. However, for what I paid for the phone (paid full retail), I don't want to feel like I'm looking at a washed out cheese grater.
Roms aren't going to help that.
I'll probably go back to my Fascinate for another month or two until either the Vigor or Prime come out.
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Dude
Do this
DOWNLOAD LCD RESOLUTION
Change NEW DENSITY to 270
Reboot
Enjoy
It feels like a big bad ass Tmobile G2X (that was my previous phone)
It's not Samsung Super AMOLED or whatever, but it is 92%-95% as good as my Tmobile G2X screen
The extra resolution really messes up everything
My only question right now is
1) Droid BIONIC with Verizon
2) Samsung Galaxy S II with Sprint?
Let's say I want
1) at least 3-5 bars everywhere in Orange County
2) I want to enter WalMart, BestBuy, Frys... and still have a good working internet connection
Which one should I chose?
I don't really need 14Mbps (although it's so cool to see that speed on a freaking phone)
However, with Tmobile, I would enter to Best Buy, my internet would drop, it was horrible
In terms of internet availability, any advice between Verizon vs Sprint?
I REALLY like the LCD Resolution program, I'm happy with my device now
IT IS A REAL ISSUE though, for the people that say that I am over reacting
It's soooo pixelated its horrible

vash1053 said:
Moto's pentile screens are pretty washed out, but that's not even what I can't stand about them; I can't stand the pentile sub-pixel layout. I hated AMOLEDs when they used a pentile format (Galaxy S, Nexus S for starters). The SAMOLED+ completely solved the "bug screen" issue by using a traditional striped sub-pixel pattern. It's a wonderful thing, and I hope pentile goes the way of the dodo soon. I was about to get a Bionic until I played with the screen a bit. There's no way I could live with it.
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Any change you can please explain what you mean with that?
Pentile
Never heard of it
I had a Asus Eee Pad and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 had a better screen
However I didn't switched from the Asus to the Galaxy because of the screen
However I DID switched because the Galaxy Tab is the lighter tab out there, so I can actually read books and do all the stuff, and I LOVE my tablet right now
So, screen is cool, but I wouldn't change just for a screen
However with the screen as pixelated as the Motorola Bionic (and the fact that they were delayed 6 months), I was 80% sure I was going to return it to the store within 14 days
However with that app LCD Resolution, now I am not going to return my phone
UNLESS
Sprint and Samsung Galaxy SII work wonders
I think I will buy (depending on the cash) the Samsung on September 16th.
Then I will test them both, and then I will make my final call.
I like Sprint, they have cool phones (HTC EVO phones, Galaxy SII...)
Anybody knows if their internet drops here in Orange County?
or is the internet from Sprint stable?
My MAIN complain is that, as a former Tmobile user, the internet would just drop as soon as I enter a mall,store, etc
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idefiler6 said:
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Pentile LCD is by far "cheap"..
Moto chooses Pentile because it's better on your battery and it's brighter than traditional LCDs when comparing screens at the same power rating.
I'd rather have a "battery saver" screen than a "bling bling, oh gnoes, 5% battery warning" screen.

Quite possibly the most useless thread on this bionic forum.
"me don't like screen, me return"
Really?
What exactly is the point in posting this? You mad bro?
If you returned it for your own reasons, so be it, why post it in here?
My eyes are pretty good, this screen is just fine, returning a device because it *might* look a little less vibrant than another one AND going to an inferior carrier IMHO is just beyond petty. But whatever works for you. It's your money. You should buy what you really like, no matter that it is a gram on the other side of a 10 pound scale.
But why... why post about it? Completely pointless.

I dont really give a crap what the technology behind the screen is.. If I cant see it in my S2000 on a nice sunny day w/the top down then I dont want it.
thats why i sent my incredible back, thats why I sent my fascinate back, the DX was decent but not great..
The bionic.. is awesome. I can see it in direct sunlight w/my sunglasses on.

Nexus 7 vs. XO V7

XO Vision 7'' eGlide Steal Tablet Computer
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I have been conflicted about the decision ASUS/Google made to omit a HDMI port & microSD slot on the N7. I feel the need to get a 7" android tablet but I am wondering if I should try this XO Vision 7'' Tablet For $99 to hold me over until someone makes a more fully featured 7" inch tablet, or just go with the Nexus 7 and make due with whatever workaround solutions I can find.
I am hoping that someone will come out with a tablet with the the same specs as the Nexus 7 with the added features of expandable storage and HDMI out. If they do this in the near future, I could then give this cheaper tablet to a family member as a gift and upgrade to whatever this new device is and not feel like I was missing out.
This budget tablet has pretty decent specs for the money except for the low resolution screen. I think if it had a better screen I wouldn't even hesitate.
Anyone have opinions either way?

All you asked for is an opinion, not facts. So here goes:
If you buy a $99 tablet, you will regret it. It will not be something to get you by, it will be something to throw at a wall.
There. That is my opinion.

Meh. The specs are OKAY. The low resolution screen kinda sucks (800x400). Personally i wouldn't trade the Nexus 7's support str8 from google, latest OS updates, the great rom/kernel development that I'm sure will come in the next few weeks/months for this tablet.
If HDMI and SD card support is that important to you then....

i get the feeling there are chinese tablets out there for similar price with better specs. The problem is finding them.
I like it. And yes, the problem is that you asked for an opinion, as opposed to any analysis.

Get the Nexus 7. Sure, other devices are going to come out with expandable storage, but this is a Nexus device. Everyone who waits for one and doesn't get it because it doesn't have X feature ends up wanting one in the long run anyway. This happened to me with the Galaxy Nexus. I decided to not wait any longer and bought the S II. I love my S II, but I would rather have the Nexus right now.
Either way, the $100 you spend on that tablet would be a waste. The low screen resolution would be enough to turn me away from it. The resolution on my S II (which is AMOLED, so not a fair comparison) is higher than that and it's almost three inches smaller. Imagine how horrible it would look on a 7" tablet. I mean, the Nook Color has a better screen and that one looks grainy to me at this point.

Ok, Ok, I may have made a mistake by asking for opinions, but I was hoping they'd be constructive opinions. And keep in mind this tablet would only be to hold me over for a couple of months until a more PREMIUM option comes along with BETTER specs than the N7. I would have easily paid $300 for an 8gig N7 if it had the extra features I want. I have a 16 gig N7 on order which will cost me 286.33 anyway if I don't cancel. If I get this other tablet I wouldn't have to wait any more either.
Any analysis would be appreciated by the way.

To get you by, I highly recommend buying the Nexus 7 (of course) or a Fire or a Nook.
Use it to see if you like it or until something better comes along.
If you choose the Nexus 7, at least it will hold its value and you won't lose much on resale.
Fire and Nook values may resemble the residential housing market.
I was not kidding about the usability of $99 tablets. A lot of EBay specs look good too.

150pilot said:
Ok, Ok, I may have made a mistake by asking for opinions, but I was hoping they'd be constructive opinions. And keep in mind this tablet would only be to hold me over for a couple of months until a more PREMIUM option comes along with BETTER specs than the N7. I would have easily paid $300 for an 8gig N7 if it had the extra features I want.
Any analysis would be appreciated by the way.
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Well If you want something to hold you over for a few months until you find what you want, you should probably go with the Nexus 7 and sell it on ebay when you find what you want. It will have much better resale then the XO and it will be a much more satisfying user experience.
Chances are the Nexus 7 will end up costing you the same in the long run as the XO once you take into account resale so you not really wasting anything and get a better system until the time you upgrade.
rmm200 said:
To get you by, I highly recommend buying the Nexus 7 (of course) or a Fire or a Nook.
Use it to see if you like it or until something better comes along.
If you choose the Nexus 7, at least it will hold its value and you won't lose much on resale.
Fire and Nook values may resemble the residential housing market.
I was not kidding about the usability of $99 tablets. A lot of EBay specs look good too.
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Yeah that.. you kind of beat me too it.

The problem isn't the anemic hardware, but the crappy software. You'd want one with good community support. Right now, that's the KF. NC has good support too, but it's two gens old and a bit too slow.
Would suggest a used KF for around $100. Geeks are dumping it in favor of the new flavor. If you want mainly a good e-reader, suggest NC for $50-70. Both of course have ample support here. Set a search bot for CL listing in your area.

rmm200 said:
To get you by, I highly recommend buying the Nexus 7 (of course) or a Fire or a Nook.
Use it to see if you like it or until something better comes along.
If you choose the Nexus 7, at least it will hold its value and you won't lose much on resale.
Fire and Nook values may resemble the residential housing market.
I was not kidding about the usability of $99 tablets. A lot of EBay specs look good too.
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Now this is what I'm looking for. I am looking for something with at least ICS on it though. And as these three are all in the same price category I'd definitely go with the N7 out of these for the OS alone. Do you really think resale of the N7 will be a viable option? I guess if I just knock up to $100 of what I paid, I could sell it and I'd be in that same situation as if I blew $100 on the XO tablet.

Cel1084 said:
Chances are the Nexus 7 will end up costing you the same in the long run as the XO once you take into account resale so you not really wasting anything and get a better system until the time you upgrade.
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I guess I have to kind of agree. Hadn't really thought about reselling as I hate selling things. But I am begining to believe this is probably the best course of action.

rmm200 said:
I was not kidding about the usability of $99 tablets.
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Until the N7, I'd have said that about $199 tablets

150pilot said:
Ok, Ok, I may have made a mistake by asking for opinions, but I was hoping they'd be constructive opinions. And keep in mind this tablet would only be to hold me over for a couple of months until a more PREMIUM option comes along with BETTER specs than the N7. I would have easily paid $300 for an 8gig N7 if it had the extra features I want. I have a 16 gig N7 on order which will cost me 286.33 anyway if I don't cancel. If I get this other tablet I wouldn't have to wait any more either.
Any analysis would be appreciated by the way.
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Oh, I'm sorry. Were our opinions not constructive enough because we were telling you to not do what you want to do? Sorry. You asked.

150pilot said:
Ok, Ok, I may have made a mistake by asking for opinions, but I was hoping they'd be constructive opinions. And keep in mind this tablet would only be to hold me over for a couple of months until a more PREMIUM option comes along with BETTER specs than the N7. I would have easily paid $300 for an 8gig N7 if it had the extra features I want. I have a 16 gig N7 on order which will cost me 286.33 anyway if I don't cancel. If I get this other tablet I wouldn't have to wait any more either.
Any analysis would be appreciated by the way.
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get a samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0, it has expandable storage and i think that it also has hdmi out too.

jtc276 said:
Oh, I'm sorry. Were our opinions not constructive enough because we were telling you to not do what you want to do? Sorry. You asked.
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Well, throwing it at a wall, I found to be a little destructive. :silly:
But you're right, I did ask, so I'll take whatever you guys dish out.

lovenokia said:
get a samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0, it has expandable storage and i think that it also has hdmi out too.
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The day of the Google I/O keynote when they announced the Nexus 7 I almost did just that. I am still thinking about that option as well. The only reason I haven't done it is, I am left to wonder when/if it will ever receive the 4.1 update to JB. If I knew it was coming soon I think I'd be better off with this tablet for what want in a 7" tablet.

Is this thread about making an edgy decision for you? Seems you had your mind made up but wanted others to confirm and give you extra reasons to side with the N7
...Just saying
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suchavibrantthang said:
Is this thread about making an edgy decision for you? Seems you had your mind made up but wanted others to confirm and give you extra reasons to side with the N7
...Just saying
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Agree with this guy. You sound like you want 4.1, it's going to be a while before any other tablet gets that.
And the other guys above are right in the fact that N7 will hold it's value well. Go with the N7 and forget that piece of crap XO, you will regret the XO. It might even turn you off of tablets completely.
Get N7 and be done with it.
Then just resell it if something better comes along. And hey... if nothing better comes along... guess what, you've got the best tablet available at this price!
I'm personally planning to do exactly what I and others are suggesting to you as well.
I'm ordering an N7, but I, like you, would really like the HDMI out, so we'll see what Acer comes out with with their a110, and we'll see what other companies come out with as well and I'll look into video out workarounds in the mean time, perhaps we'll find a suitable work around and get to keep our super sexy HD screens and the latest versions of Android (including all future updates they day the are released rather than waiting months for other companies to implement updates - if ever).
Rock yourself an N7 my friend... just do it, stop hesitating, you'll thank us all later.
(not sure if I should even add this part to not confuse you even further but - if for some reason you're set on getting a cheap junk Chinese tablet to save a dollar though there's a lot better options than the XO Vision, keep in mind they're all still junk though, I'd say look at something like this instead: Ramos W6HD or perhaps Ainol NOVO Mars - I still say go with the N7 though, you'll be a lot happier in the long run)

Psipherious said:
Get N7 and be done with it.
Then just resell it if something better comes along. And hey... if nothing better comes along... guess what, you've got the best tablet available at this price!
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OK. Done. I am taking your guy's advice. But first, I'll back up a bit. I have a 64G LTE iPad. It has become my main device, I love the battery life & instant on features the most. I am completely sold on tablets. However the entire time I've owned the iPad, Android guys were telling/showing how easy it was to just stick in a microSD card full of movies & watch them or download something from the web on their tablet, pull out the MicroSD card stick it in a USB adapter & transfer files to any other computer. I've longed for those features as Apple has denied them to me as they must not think I can handle it. I have also come to the conclusion that I'd like a smaller, lighter, more portable device to carry everywhere that didn't cost me $900 like my iPad+smart-cover. So, for a LONG-TERM 7" android tablet at a MINIMUM, I'd like Buttery smooth (iPad-like) Jelly Bean, on at least a dual-core 1+ Ghz tablet, 1+ GB ram, with screen res of AT LEAST 1024x600, and it should have MicroSD & HDMI out, along with 9-10 battery life for being online. That's what I'd like in a LONG-TERM 7" android device. Any more would be a bonus. But I have decided to settle for the Nexus 7 until someone comes along with my Dream Tablet, and then I'll knock off $100 of the $286.33 I will have paid and use the remaining balance toward whatever the Nexus 7 killer is.
I think Android could possibly be better than iOS with this new Jelly Bean version but only if combined with hardware that takes advantage of all of its capabilities. I think Google/Asus hit a home run with the Nexus 7 but they could have easily made it a GRAND SLAM.

IM SOOO CONFOOOZED...
SUMBODI TELL ME WOT TO BY...​

Just picked up an Atrix HD at lunchtime, intitial thoughts

Cliffs: Shut up and read it
To be 100% honest, I don't like it as much as the Atrix 2. The build quality is on par, there's just something too....i dont know...RAZR-esque about it. I had an HTC One X in between that will be given to a coworker now, I'll stick with the AHD for the time being. It feels good in the hand, doesn't seem as prone to slipping out of it like the One X does. I'm afraid i'm going to destroy that thing by dropping it.
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The car dock was included, I walked out the door for $108 with the phone and dock. It's pretty solid, but definitely a new design from older Motorola car docks. Basically, you dock the phone, then you slide the power connector into the phone, it's a 2 part method. Not a dealbreaker, but I know i'll forget to slide the power thing over and it'll just kill my battery at some point.
The camera, while better than the Atrix 2, is still not up to my standards. The HTC is still MUCH better quality, but it's not the end of the world. What good is a great camera if I drop the HTC?
The data speeds are absolutely ridiculous, I took a few speedtests with the HTC and then the AHD back to back. I managed about 15-20 down with the HOX, and 30-40 with the AHD. THAT is awesome! So much for my 5gb data cap .
The interface is nice. I quite like what Motorola has done with "Blur" or whatever they're officially calling it these days. I somehow managed to get AT&T Messages handling my text messages, that isnt going to fly with me, I prefer the stock one. I like the swipe features of the icons/widgets on the home screens, very cool even if I don't use them often.
The screen isn't as bright as the HOX outside in direct sunlight, but i'm sure it's as good or better than the GS3. Still not a deal breaker for me. Oh, I did not have auto brightness enabled when i went outside, it is now. I may edit this after I walk outside in a bit. I do feel there is a lot of wasted bezel space, but I'm not the engineer and have no clue what's shoved underneath said wasted space.
The clock/weather/data monitor widget is cool, it actively monitors the amount of data remaining! I really like that, i've used 3.53/5GB this month, thankfully the billing cycle ends on tuesday.
All in all, I'm pleased with the purchase for now. It's a change from the Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 designs, however I don't think it reduces the build quality at all. To me it feels better built than the HTC One X, and miles better than a GS3.
I am taking pic/screenshot requests and questions for the afternoon, so go nuts.
Side-note. While i was at the store, there was a guy upgrading to an iPhone 4S and had a cracked back glass. I jokingly offered him $50 for it, so now i'm the proud new owner of a $60 (including the replacement glass) iphone 4 that will either be given to the wife to replace her dying ipod touch, or it'll show up on Craigslist in a few days and pay for my AHD and a few Abita Andygators.

Smart actions just eliminated any new for tasker or locale. This thing is great!
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Can you upload the wallpapers? I got the system dump but it doesn't seem to include the wallpapers. Thanks!

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Can you upload the wallpapers? I got the system dump but it doesn't seem to include the wallpapers. Thanks!
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Tell me where they would be and I'll get them. Not sure why, they're ugly as can be lol.
EDIT: poked and prodded, found the default one. It's a start I guess.
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Many thanks!

Great thanks for this HD wp
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picked one up as well. haven't tested outside, but inside the screen is brighter, crisper and colors more pronounced than my One X. It is especially noticeable for me in Maps and Gmail.I also emailed one of the wallpapers to myself and displayed it on the HOX side by side with the Moto. Crisper on the Moto and colors slightly more vibrant. It is a cooler screen while the One X is warmer, but I prefer how white backgrounds appear on the MAHD. We'll see how the week goes. If the battery will last me through as work day as the HOX does, then it's a keeper as I like the on screen buttons, near-stock ICS feel, etc. Camera is definitely not as good as the One X but still decent and I think I can live with that.
Noten the picture of the wallpaper, my camera focused more on the HOX so in the pic it appears slightly more crisp than the MAHD, but in person it is not.

I have too say the ATRIX HD is pretty sweet! I love the screen and the can.. low light it isn't that great but out in daytime its really good. The screen is beautiful and I love the feel and I'm getting great battery life.. few things I could change would be the home launcher.. way too much like an I phone
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few things I could change would be the home launcher.. way too much like an I phone
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What do you mean about it being too much like an iPhone? In what way, can you elaborate? Thanks!

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What do you mean about it being too much like an iPhone? In what way, can you elaborate? Thanks!
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Well you start off with one screen like an iphone, well now they have two... but you add more screens as you add more apps and widgets... and as far as i know, i might be wrong but the main screen is the far left one.. like an iphone. and you can't change it at all. i hate it. also you can't use the clock widget on another launcher without root access, or at least it wouldn't work on Nova. so yeah
but other than that i really do like the phone.
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So I went to the release event Motorola had for the Atirx HD, it was really nice they had some cool stuff to show. well during the meeting the main guy said a very interesting comment, "We had to take somethings out to make it a better price." So after the demonstration i asked the rep, so what "things" did you take out?
he said with a nervousness voice, oh nothing to big, we had to reduce the 13mp cam to a 8 and drop the 16gb to an 8gb. oh and we took out NFC.
and then he said they had a new app that works with NFC but cuz att wanted a lower price phone they took it out. i guess its going to be on the new razor.. so yeah.
that really it. but other than that don't you just love the phone?

Once you set up multiple screens, can you drag the home/main screen set by default as the first screen wherever you want it?
Glad to see some reviews and even comparisons to the HOX. By all accounts the camera is inferior. How does it stack up against the GNex?
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Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.

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Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.
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Yup...and the development for the s3 is unbeatable, if the atrix HD had that then I would definitely switch. Oh well... I really like their UI over Samsung and HTC and the build is much better.
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bimmerd00d said:
Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.
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I'm assuming they asked for their Vehicle Dock back? Thanks for the pics and review.
So I guess we have AT&T to blame for stripping the Atrix HD of all it's glory and what it could have been (i.e., 13 megapixels, 16gb, NFC). The question is, would you pay $199 instead of $99 for this phone if it included this stuff?

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I'm assuming they asked for their Vehicle Dock back? Thanks for the pics and review.
So I guess we have AT&T to blame for stripping the Atrix HD of all it's glory and what it could have been (i.e., 13 megapixels, 16gb, NFC). The question is, would you pay $199 instead of $99 for this phone if it included this stuff?
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If only it had 13megapixels, 16GB internals, NFC, a 4.7/4.8" screen, and Webtop, it wouldn't be a question for me. I'd get that phone in a heartbeat. But sadly.. AT&T opted it to be a budget phone.. So, no go for me. Gonna get the SGS3 instead.. A shame too. I really had high hopes for the next Atrix. A little heartbroken here. /proudownerofatrix4g

Those two things - camera and battery life - are the only things holding me back from complete satisfaction, BUT...is it really worth $150 more to get a One X or SGS III?? For me, I have to reluctantly say...maybe...we'll see if I can coax more juice out of it first (before my buyer's remorse period is over). Here's a low light picture sample, since there is a lack of those available online.

Its like I'm back in the OG Atrix forum back on its launch day. So much disappointment when everyone started leaving us for the Inspire 4G. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like any devs are working on the third Atrix.
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Just ordered mine and I'm coming from the sgs2. One question how is the temp when in heavy use? Also any freezing issue. That's the problem with the sgs2
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Just ordered mine and I'm coming from the sgs2. One question how is the temp when in heavy use? Also any freezing issue. That's the problem with the sgs2
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The temp has been okay on mine, but I'm home over 90% of the time (telecommute for work) and I'm on WiFi. Some people say having it on 4G it gets a little warm.
I had mine freeze this morning after a phone call. Had to force a reboot (Power + Vol Down).
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Dont you think this phone got old too fast?

Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.

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Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Yes ..this phone was the most under rated phone .
Its actually better than s3 ...
Feeling sad for the 4x hd users ..
Shame on you LG ...
They haven't even provided software updates
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Yep
I'm getting the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini soon (read 2 weeks), just because i want a phone with the same price range (~300 euros) and one which does actually gets new updates

The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.

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The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...

brunek said:
This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
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Apple made 3 year old phones that are still compatible with the latest software updates, also the latest iDevices have less ram than the latest android whilst also ran faster. The problem in android's core engineering used to made manufacturers reluctant to update their software since the hw might not be able to handle the software. But then Jelly Bean came out and ran faster in older devices, and things should change accordingly. But they're not. So yes, it might be their business mindset that needs to change.

I agree to this.. Someone mentioned that they even can get KK 4.4 on their Samsung Galaxy 1!
I'm also thinking about buying a new phone, but it's sad since the Optimus 4X is a good phone! I don't want a phone with the actionbar or what they call it (the back, home and menu buttons on-screen). And IF you gonna buy a new phone these days, i'm thinking it's smart to go for a phone with 1080x1920 screen. I'm thinking HTC One..

i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(

greece-for-ever said:
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
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I've noticed the problem with the battery drain as well, but only the last 2 months or so.. I run official CM10.1.3 stable, dunno if that's worse than CM10.2.. Kinda made me wonder lately!

i have try many roms and kernels combo because baterry drain and the best for me is zabien RC7 with original kernel underlock to 475 mhz verry low governor performance set 1 core ...all run enough smooth and i have 3h 50m screen on the best so far for me ... sorry for bad english
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Don't buy a new phone.
The industry wants you to think that you have to upgrade your phone every year, but really, what are you missing?
Is it that important to have 480ppi instead of 320 although you can't really tell a big difference? Is it necessary that your processor is twice as fast, although you can play pretty much every game completely lag free?
Back in the days people had their cellphone for many years, they were solid and bug-free. I think it isn't good to support the development of the ever-growing mobile industry, this isn't good for the environment and it isn't good for your purse

Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).

Maczuga said:
Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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I wont buy an other phone, I will stick to this at least for more 2 years.
I've saved up too much for this and I have the confidence in our developers.

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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.

Maczuga said:
Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.

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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
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Amazon pls
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This will be my last phone of LG...Had HTC Trophy 7 before this one and it received updates regulary issued by Microsoft. Now I have this phone which on paper is amazing and its good in RL too, but I am stuck with old version of Android just because LG wont bother their overpaid devs to release new versions. So basically my LG is in graveyard regarding software. Next time I will go either with Nexus line from Google or go back to MS...at least when they upgrade system all manufacturers receive it...

Just shortly. The only thing i am missing probably is battery of something like 3000mAh.
Everything else fits price and in compare with other phones is just perfect.
You shouldnt request full developers forum as this phone is not a popular model. However with such users population it is just great to have at least few devs!!!!
For those who talk about MS. Probably that is wrong forum to talk about it...
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Replacing mako...

I'm feeling sad. Because I know my mako will soon be spreading its wings and going to a new home. My contract is up and I promised a friend who had an S4 nicked only a couple of weeks after getting it that she could have my N4 when my contract is up for renewal (I wouldn't really want anybody to be stuck with a Desire running stock 2.2...) But my real question and purpose for posting here is what do I get to replace it? I know there's an obvious answer and the Nexus 5 is probably what I'll end up with, but I thought I'd throw this out there for the advice of you lovely netizens
I've played with an N5 in the O2 shop and it really doesn't feel like much of an upgrade to the 4. I'm not particularly fond of the very generic industrial design or the in-hand feel. I'm sure given a bit of tinkering and a custom ROM it could be quite nice, but with the stock ROM on the N5 (obviously) and the modded colour profile on the N4, I actually prefer the LCD on the mako! The camera is much better on the 5, not that I use it much, and I suppose the battery life ought to be a bit better. It really didn't feel any faster but I'm sure SlimKat + over clock vs stock is not a fair comparison. It just seems silly to be stuck with a phone for 2 years which has already been made obsolete (in my mind) by this years' MWC launches and which doesn't really represent a big upgrade from the phone I have now.
So what about the S5? I've pretty much discounted it due to the fact that it's a Samsung, which means AOSP ROM support will be poor, it will suffer from SOD and probably also fry its eMMC after a few months Although I'm sure there are people willing to endure that for a removable battery and a microSD slot, I'm not one of them. Funnily enough, several of my friends who own/owned S3s have said they'll not buy another Sammy...
The Z2? Well, I guess it's likely to have good AOSP support so long as I can get my mitts on an unbranded one (no prob, I'll just renew through Carphone Warehouse) but it's also GIGANTIC and I'm not sure whether it uses the easily broken dragon trail glass and that daft easily scratched plastic outer layer like the original Z.
I presume there will be a new HTC One (two?) very soon, which has a chance of being a more reasonable size and probably better build quality than the competitors but I don't know what the situation with bootloader locking is like on current HTC Qualcomm devices? (Assuming it will be Qualcomm) After my One X debacle, I pretty much told myself I wouldn't buy another HTC but I have had many over the years which have been great so it seems mean not to forgive them for that one terrible device.
I presume LG won't be in on this round of upgrades (aside from phabletty ones) but I had considered the G2 due to its larger battery but otherwise similar hardware to the N5?
Yeah, I guess I'll just get an N5.
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You answered your own question by the end. BTW you should root your desire and flash KitKat on it.
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I would look at the lg g flex to ik its huge but the screen is pretty alsome
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Got the same problem want to replace my nexus 4 but no idea with what, also tried Nexus 5 but don't feel like update maybe the LG g2 because of bigger screen, but still don't feels like big upgrade...
LG flex is nice but ways to expensive
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If you cant wait (until nexus 6 is released), i would suggest new htc one or lg g2. Lg g2 has a great screen size, its sharp, but too saturated cartoonish colors, if you like that. Awesome battery, 5,6 hours of screen on time, great camera. it has a great devs support but its not working as smooth as nexus 5. So in order: nexus 6, new htc one, lg g2 (or nexus 5 if you really like aosp and smoothness).
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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G2 is a legit contender
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Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
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stuffynet said:
Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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I heard so as well.
Hardware and Price definitly make it a great Phone.
After a quick personal test I have to say coming from a Stock/Custom Rom the UI is really ugly, but there are custom Roms.

OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?

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OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?
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So? My equally-4-year-old HTC Vision runs KitKat. I mean, sure, Apple officially released their latest OS for the iPhone 4 (and hopefully the performance will be acceptable this time) but I've never run a shipping ROM on any device I've owned since my original iPhone, anyway, so the crappy long term support of Android device manufacturers not a big deal for me. Also, there seems to be a lot of pro-Apple sentiment for long-term device support but I don't think that's a gesture of kindness or 'different' business behaviour to other manufacturers. Really, they have to keep support, since they keep crummy old devices on the market a lot longer than other manufacturers. I know a few people who still have remaining months on two year contracts with iPhone 4s, but I'm fairly certain that's not going to be the case with any Android handset which was launched around the same time.
Incidentally, I think I've settled on the G2. Given that the cost to me will be the same with an N5 or a G2, it seems silly not to go for the bigger battery, (much) contrastier screen and better camera since I'll run CM/AOSP either way. It means dealing with nasty Samsung-like glossy plastic, but given that it's already good, I'm thinking the battery life ought to be insane once all the LG OEM crap is gone
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling weirdly reminiscent about replacing my Mako... Usually I'm terribly excited to get my mitts on a new device, but this time I'm just left wondering how I'll cope if I don't like whatever I replace it with as much

I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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prog19 said:
I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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Azurael said:
I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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That's what we're seing in the Optimus G forum. The development follows the lead of N4, but not at the same pace. My GF has one and simply love the lg UI and the miniapps. But the device is great and stuck in the 4.1.1
There's a lot of great devs there, like XboxfanJ, and many many others doing a great job porting things out, but it's a shame that LG is failing to provide a update to any other android version. Even 4.3 would be great in that device.
I had to root my GF Optimus G just to use fstrim, because it was becoming laggy as hell. And while google is doing a magnificent job puting the Gapps avaible in the playstore, she misses some nice features, like the notifications listener, or immersive mode, but at the same time, being with the device since november of 2013 (here in brazil mid class people just have to be one generation or two behind every single eletronic stuff, because they are expensive as hell) she doesn't want to void the warranty.
The really bad thing about LG is that they launch their flagships with old android versions, update short after the relase and then go with the excuse that the device has already seen a major upgrade.
OG came with 4.0 and then was updated to 4.1
LG Flex came with 4.2
G2 came with 4.2
And that's the way they do their business.

If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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Connor Baker said:
If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
Connor Baker
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No, I literally will not buy Samsung hardware on principle. I've seen too many dead S2s, notes, S3s, etc. That is a company with zero concept of quality control, to keep releasing b0rked eMMC controllers, generation after generation. Plus, if you begin to read the CM device managers' posts on Exynos support, you see what a ****ty attitude they have for the development community, even if most current devices are Qualcomm based and a lot easier to work with. Plus I'm not and never have been enamoured with their hardware in general. Sadly, the G2 looks and feels like a Samsung, but I guess I'll have to live with that. Oh, and what good is a GPE unless you're buying your device outright? AFAIK a Nexus 5 is the only chance you have of getting a shipping 'stock' android device here on contract.
Edit: I reaslise I probably came across as a bit of an arse in this post. Sorry, Samsung make me angry. It might be worth waiting for the new HTC One but I'm fairly certain the camera will be rubbish and it still has a small screen with a massive bezel (or it's a massive device, not sure which )
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As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.

Pvt WhoOkid said:
As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.
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Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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Azurael said:
Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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People shouldn't tell you what to do, they can only make a suggestion. It's about what you want from your phone. If you want software optimized with hardware, get most recent updates and roll the smoothest devices on market, go with nexus line. My brother has LG g2 and with that beast of cpu and gpu, it's much slower then my nexus 4 (on both aosp rooms and lg ones). I would never buy g2 just because of that. Also Samsung devices, bloat bloat bloat, and sluggishness. I would buy n5 in no time because I want speed and fast updates, and a camera to take quick and decent pictures. Yeah battery is a little bit weak but, there are kernels for that
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