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Dualboot Phiremod/Honeycomb SD on Ebay

Dualboot Phiremod/Honeycomb SD on Ebay
Ok, I know this issue has been raised before. But this just isn't right. This person is profiting off the hard work of everyone here on the Nook Color Dev forums. I understand that some people are technically challenged and enjoy the fact that all they have to do is pop in the SDcard with the roms already loaded. But I've made that dualboot img so that any technically challenged person can do it. All you have to do is burn it to a card and you have a dualboot rom.
Not to mention all the devs that actually put work into making these roms how they are. And we do it all so everyone can benefit without being ripped off by said ebay poster.
**sigh**
Sorry for my rants, but even if the poster had even mentioned or give credit where credit is due, I wouldn't be as upset.
Oh and here is a youtube video where the person is explaining on how to use the dualboot menu by J4mm3r. You don't want to boot to "eemc". LOLOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayrOZfF6gE
Just want to say thanks to the wonderful community here as well.
Thanks,
Racks

One half of me is happy to see that my Honeycomb SDK build was good enough to want to use. The other half of me is pissed off at stupid profiteers using it to make bouku bucks....
Sadly, i knew when i put it out there, i could not stop it from being used this way. And of course, it isn't just my effort being ripped off - it looks like they are using your work as well Racks.
Ah well... i just won't support the poor suckers who get said cards, and cannot figure out why they dont work.

Why dont you guys report the items on ebay. Since he deff does not have a license from google to SELL android os. Google lets you use android for free but have to have a license to sell it.

$50 Yikes! I could see spending maybe $10 or $20 to save the hassle, in fact I paid a local guy $20 off of Craigslist to do the CM7 install for me since I wasn't comfortable doing it myself. But $50?!?!? That's robbery.

You know, there's a whole wider point here about how forums, and the like, disseminate information.
I've had my Nook for all of a week. I'm on my second Android phone so am used to flashing ROM updates. BUT coming to this corner of XDA I hit a brick wall seriously hard.
The problem for this and many other fora is that no-one offically obsoletes and removes information. Some info is good and still current; some never worked and some has now become bad after Nook updates. As a noob I have no easy way of knowing which is which.
I've been following this forum daily but I've mainly been looking to Gingerbread and stock 1.2. I am astounded to discover there is a dual boot option on an SD card with Honeycomb. Where is it? Why didn't I see it? Where are the guides to doing it?
On to the eBay guy; you do get a tested 16Gb card for your money. Good luck to him! If he'd acknowledges software sources - all the eBay 'me toos' out there would have it too easy.

croques said:
You know, there's a whole wider point here about how forums, and the like, disseminate information.
I've had my Nook for all of a week. I'm on my second Android phone so am used to flashing ROM updates. BUT coming to this corner of XDA I hit a brick wall seriously hard.
The problem for this and many other fora is that no-one offically obsoletes and removes information. Some info is good and still current; some never worked and some has now become bad after Nook updates. As a noob I have no easy way of knowing which is which.
I've been following this forum daily but I've mainly been looking to Gingerbread and stock 1.2. I am astounded to discover there is a dual boot option on an SD card with Honeycomb. Where is it? Why didn't I see it? Where are the guides to doing it?
On to the eBay guy; you do get a tested 16Gb card for your money. Good luck to him! If he'd acknowledges software sources - all the eBay 'me toos' out there would have it too easy.
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Well you can find the dualboot SD here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13092402&postcount=1
And it almost sounds like your condoning his actions? Be that as it may, yes when we put information out there on these forums, people are free to use them as they wish. Just wish people like said poster wouldn't benefit free from other peoples hard work that they put into it. Not to mention the community here that tested these roms and reported bugs and issues so that it would be tweaked to it's best ability to run on our Nooks.
How would anyone feel if they put hours and days or even months into a project so that they can help out a community only to have someone come by, take that project, package it up and make a profit off of it. It just aint right.
Again, I was just writing to vent. Don't take anything I write personal. I feel much better now!
Thanks,
Racks

racks11479 said:
...when we put information out there on these forums, people are free to use them as they wish. Just wish people like said poster wouldn't benefit free from other peoples hard work that they put into it. Not to mention the community here that tested these roms and reported bugs and issues so that it would be tweaked to it's best ability to run on our Nooks.
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I can totally understand where you are coming from; I have a paid app on the market and am sure some people download, get a refund but keep it on their system with Titanium Backup. I get mad too. But sometimes I pirate stuff and feel justified. Human beings are a funny mix - or at least I am.
Would you really want to run a business selling formatted SD cards on eBay or would you prefer doing what you do and contributing to the community? Clearly for you, 'contribution' is an important part of your self-realization. I imagine monetizing everything you touch is not how you wish to live your life or see yourself. There are others who take a different world-view; the eBay guy being one of them.
As for condoning his actions, I think I recognise the world needs enterpreneurs as well as altruists; but I agree I do feel differently when it's me being ripped off
Thanks for the link but in a way it make the case for the eBay guy. The post has been updated and the steps one needs to take from scratch to get an SD card dual booting have become less clear. The words "Phiremod 6.2 and Madcat's Honeycomb Hybrid-RC1" may mean something to those that have been here a while; sadly in this madly hyper-linked world it means little to me yet.
I'm minded of a software Engineering lecturer who once asked 'Why is it that when software is updated the file size always grows". Thread updates via edits on XDA-developers always get larger - is there a good reason why?

croques said:
I can totally understand where you are coming from; I have a paid app on the market and am sure some people download, get a refund but keep it on their system with Titanium Backup. I get mad too. But sometimes I pirate stuff and feel justified. Human beings are a funny mix - or at least I am.
Would you really want to run a business selling formatted SD cards on eBay or would you prefer doing what you do and contributing to the community? Clearly for you, 'contribution' is an important part of your self-realization. I imagine monetizing everything you touch is not how you wish to live your life or see yourself. There are others who take a different world-view; the eBay guy being one of them.
As for condoning his actions, I think I recognise the world needs enterpreneurs as well as altruists; but I agree I do feel differently when it's me being ripped off
Thanks for the link but in a way it make the case for the eBay guy. The post has been updated and the steps one needs to take from scratch to get an SD card dual booting have become less clear. The words "Phiremod 6.2 and Madcat's Honeycomb Hybrid-RC1" may mean something to those that have been here a while; sadly in this madly hyper-linked world it means little to me yet.
I'm minded of a software Engineering lecturer who once asked 'Why is it that when software is updated the file size always grows". Thread updates via edits on XDA-developers always get larger - is there a good reason why?
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Well, firstly just want to say thanks for your understanding of my rants.
And yes you are correct in how the world works, people will be people.
Thread updates gets larger via edits so newcomers can see the progress of the work that has been done. And out there for anyone that wants to understand how it progressed from initial beta phase to current status of the app/software/rom being worked on.
Oh and regarding the software quote, well size of any particular software grows when you add additional modifications, tweaks and functions.
Take my horrible analogy for example:
"You can make scrambled eggs with just two eggs some oil and a pan. Wanna make make that scrambled egg even better? How bout an omelette, now we need previous ingredients, plus, cheese, mushrooms, etc...." you get my drift.
-Racks

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Dualboot Phiremod/Honeycomb SD on Ebay
Ok, I know this issue has been raised before. But this just isn't right. This person is profiting off the hard work of everyone here on the Nook Color Dev forums. I understand that some people are technically challenged and enjoy the fact that all they have to do is pop in the SDcard with the roms already loaded. But I've made that dualboot img so that any technically challenged person can do it. All you have to do is burn it to a card and you have a dualboot rom.
Not to mention all the devs that actually put work into making these roms how they are. And we do it all so everyone can benefit without being ripped off by said ebay poster.
**sigh**
Sorry for my rants, but even if the poster had even mentioned or give credit where credit is due, I wouldn't be as upset.
Oh and here is a youtube video where the person is explaining on how to use the dualboot menu by J4mm3r. You don't want to boot to "eemc". LOLOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayrOZfF6gE
Just want to say thanks to the wonderful community here as well.
Thanks,
Racks
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Racks, I'm sorry to hear the profiting from your and other devs work. I personally am not a developer, and would consider myself fairly novice at the inner workings of my NCs, however I have rooted both of mine and bought the second one just to learn, to try the different mods, to try all of the neat things that have been done to this point so that I can learn. Great reason to have threads out there that are older...
I had someone here at the office offer me $ to root their nook and put MN on it, I declined, modded it for them anyway, and now she's happy, I don't have any extra money, but for some reason I feel better about it. Imagine that, and I expressly made it clear that I didn't do anything other than follow directions and take no credit for what they now had.
So, thank you for all of your work, thanks to all of the other devs for their work as well, and to Hades with the guys that try to profit off of other people's hard work! LOL
DB

I think the loser doing this gets away with it by claiming you are not buying Android but rather you are buying the memory card and his "service" - which is a BS way around the rules.

Theres always the guy that profits solely off the service.
Just because we "get it" doesnt mean the average end user does.
"Android will change the way we do things" been saying that since me G1.

Instead of the legal and moral issues (if exist) the seller doesn't mention anywhere what is the class of the sds. The photo from ebay is low quality so I couldn't spot it.

what about this scenario?
A coworker has played with my rooted (bootloader with CM7 on a 16g sd card - stock untouched) and is purchasing one soon. i've told her there might be some issue with rooting 'new' hardware - but I'm not exactly certain about that. she wants to pay me to set hers up the way mine is. she might give me money, or she might buy me a six-pack of fancy beer or who knows.
I've told her that it is all copied work from various folks on the boards - but she'll never know xda-developers much less the individuals who have made all this possible. (can I 'thank' you guys on your threads more than once - adding a thanks for her?)
If I accept any kind of remuneration, am I profiteering from your work?
What if I decide to upgrade to a 32 gig card, and she pays me the price of my 16gig card and I leave the setup on it?
just curious where the line is

kimberlim said:
A coworker has played with my rooted (bootloader with CM7 on a 16g sd card - stock untouched) and is purchasing one soon. i've told her there might be some issue with rooting 'new' hardware - but I'm not exactly certain about that. she wants to pay me to set hers up the way mine is. she might give me money, or she might buy me a six-pack of fancy beer or who knows.
I've told her that it is all copied work from various folks on the boards - but she'll never know xda-developers much less the individuals who have made all this possible. (can I 'thank' you guys on your threads more than once - adding a thanks for her?)
If I accept any kind of remuneration, am I profiteering from your work?
What if I decide to upgrade to a 32 gig card, and she pays me the price of my 16gig card and I leave the setup on it?
just curious where the line is
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There is no line crossed. Your not putting out an ad to get peoples nooks so you can root it for them.
Someone personally asked you to do this for them. And I see nothing wrong with it. Its the ones that mass produce software that isn't theirs for money. That's what irks me.
I say gofor it. Not to mention that you've told your co-worker about
XdA. Not every one is tech savvy. And I already said that I wouldn't be as upset if said poster would have given credit to all the devs that put work in for free so he can make money off burning not just one. But many sdcards to sell on eBay.
To each his own I guess.
Thanks,
Racks
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

Aloha...
You developers amaze me with your talents and the products resulting from them.
Shame on the sellers. As mentioned above, I expect that they say they are only charging for the cards and service. Boo! Hiss!
I'm having a tad of trouble with the Phiremod/HC dual boot with menu. Could someone please tell me the correct forum to get help with it? (NC 1.2, 8gb class 4 San disk card)
You are awesome, all of you!
Tana-Lee
61-year-old noob typing from the HC rom

I can see your fustration Racks. If I dedicated so much of my own time to benefit my community then somebody comes in and profits off my hard work I would be pissed.
That being said for us users on xda we do appreciate the time you put in to make our devices that much more awesome. So I say thank you sir, and hopefully more people will come to the xda forums and do their work themselves or at least try.
And it is true that Android is "open sourced" for the most part. However, anything Google requires licensing. This includes Google apps and the Android market. These are closed sourced. Seeing how these sd cards have both Google apps and market preinstalled, I can see Google justified in taking action if they choose to. Even if the consumer is paying for the "device" (sd card) that devices is distributing Google's property. Food for thought.
Sent from my PG06100 using XDA App

Racks, thanks for the time you and the other devs put into the nook and cm7. I am fairly new to th android world but not to nix so the transition was not as rough for me as for some. I realize there wil always be folks out there who try to obtain other peoples work and profit from it and we, as a community, can only watch. What I propose, however rough around the edges it sounds, is that we, as a community, refer anyone who purchases these warz back to the source for assistance. I do realize that I sound harsh but the only way to prevent others from profiting from your work is to refuse to support the "pirated" software.
The whole AOSP thing has been a thorny issue from day one. As an old guy, I remember programming before monitors when keypunch cards were the norm but, even then, There were folks trying to profit from the hard work of others. Same thing applied then, if you have my work and did not get it from me then when you need support, go to the guy you got it from. Just sayin.....
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The Verge Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 15 minute video review

It was a good review. Not all hipster like the Apple videos.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm totally stoked! Bring on some 4.2 goodness!

There's already an update for Google Now with the new features.

Nebucatnetzer said:
There's already an update for Google Now with the new features.
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Its very nice too.

I'm hype! Thanks for sharing the video.

Why Android?! Why Google?!
Excellence in simplicity and humility!
That's why I love Google and hoping my heart will never be broken.
Look at those guys on the video! They are so cool, speaking with such humility and Never ever comparing their work to some other contender. I like that and i feel comfortable buy their devices and using their services.
With such prices I can't complain much about the lack of sd slot or removable battery.
I'm in guys.

nessim19 said:
Excellence in simplicity and humility!
That's why I love Google and hoping my heart will never be broken.
Look at those guys on the video! They are so cool, speaking with such humility and Never ever comparing their work to some other contender. I like that and i feel comfortable buy their devices and using their services.
With such prices I can't complain much about the lack of sd slot or removable battery.
I'm in guys.
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well put... sadly, i'd like to see some Verizon/Sprint compatibility for the N4... this news saddens me as i was looking to update my device before the end of the year and i refuse to use AT&T/T-Mobile networks... hopefully something is announced sooner than later...

Interview with Google about Nexus 4 and much more!
Hope this is an appropriate forum if not, can a mod please move, not just close...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoxMMZ0HJBQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Already an earlier thread about this just a few down from yours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962667
I'll let the mod's know to merge this one into the earlier one.

How about using the real link instead of linking to a Youtube account that is stealing The Verge's video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-4uMQqerA&feature=g-all-u

That is the same video... just on a different YouTube account.. am I missing something?

stretched said:
That is the same video... just on a different YouTube account.. am I missing something?
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Yes, the first link ripped The Verge's video and posted it on their account to generate views.

The limited storage is this phones downfall.

I've been looking for a phone to buy outright for awhile and the Lumia 920, iPhone 5 and Galaxy Note 2 are all strong contenders, however the Nexus 4 beat them all with the price of £279. I was so prepared to buy one because it's a bargain but only 16GB? That would be fine if there was a Micro SD but there isn't. They really need to release a 32GB and 64GB model. I mean I fill 16GB up with music alone on my GS2.

Sweet, another thread about storage. Go buy another phone.

Buy another phone. Use cloud services. Use the search function in this forum. Do anything else but complain here. Most of us have had enough.

Unlimited data here so storage isn't an issue and i get H+ mostly everywhere I got from home to work so all good. 16 gig is enough for me. Lucky we all have the option to buy other phones

Venekor said:
I've been looking for a phone to buy outright for awhile and the Lumia 920, iPhone 5 and Galaxy Note 2 are all strong contenders, however the Nexus 4 beat them all with the price of £279. I was so prepared to buy one because it's a bargain but only 16GB? That would be fine if there was a Micro SD but there isn't. They really need to release a 32GB and 64GB model. I mean I fill 16GB up with music alone on my GS2.
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No one cares about your lack of storage. Don't buy it. But starting another thread on the subject is retarded. Much like your reasoning. Lets be brutally honest here too; Most that music you have sux. I bet its all emo/metro one hit gargbage. Cut out the crap.
I currently have every Led zep, Pink flyod, the who, the beatles, Metallica, slayer, Gwar, Wierd AL, AC DC, Alice Cooper, Aerosmith, the B52s, BTO, Bad Religion, Bela Fleck, the Black Keys, blood hound gang, Blues traveler, Buthole surfers, Cat Stevens, Cherry poppin Daddies, Citizen Fish, Danzig, Bowie, Elton Jon, Eric Clapton, Frank Zappa, GNR, Jethro Tull, Hendrix, Mifits Thrill kill kult, and about 50 more bands, with huge discography librarys all in Flac, and I only have about ten gigs taken up. You are doing something wrong, listening to garbage, if you have much more than that......

get over it. use google play for music or any of the free streaming music players. drive for documents and ubuntu one, dropbox, box, sugarsync, and google plus for photos. join the cloud and keep back ups on the home computer.
This thread should just be deleted!

lol so much hate, this is like Apple telling customers they're holding it wrong. I'm sorry that I am wrong for wanting more storage, no you people have convinced me that I don't need more than 16GB, you're right :S................
It's called feedback, if enough people request it then they'll release a version with more storage.

Venekor said:
lol so much hate, this is like Apple telling customers they're holding it wrong. I'm sorry that I am wrong for wanting more storage, no you people have convinced me that I don't need more than 16GB, you're right :S................
It's called feedback, if enough people request it then they'll release a version with more storage.
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No, the main point was that there are already threads in this very forum, in the same section, about the exact same topic. If you want to give feedback, email Google, I'm sure they'll love to hear from you.

Venekor said:
lol so much hate, this is like Apple telling customers they're holding it wrong. I'm sorry that I am wrong for wanting more storage, no you people have convinced me that I don't need more than 16GB, you're right :S................
It's called feedback, if enough people request it then they'll release a version with more storage.
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By feedback, you mean as many threads saying the exact same thing as possible right?

Venekor said:
lol so much hate, this is like Apple telling customers they're holding it wrong..
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That was a design flaw, NOT a design decision.
Venekor said:
I'm sorry that I am wrong for wanting more storage, no you people have convinced me that I don't need more than 16GB, you're right :S................
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And that's the great thing about Android devices in general, variety. You want more storage try an S3 or HTC One x, or anything that meets your specific requirements. Rather than bleating about the one device that doesn't.
Venekor said:
It's called feedback, if enough people request it then they'll release a version with more storage.
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I personally would have thought that after the Galaxy Nexus if the feedback/backlash was so great they would have changed their minds with the Nexus 4 and included the ability for expanded storage.

dieseldanjr said:
I personally would have thought that after the Galaxy Nexus if the feedback/backlash was so great they would have changed their minds with the Nexus 4 and included the ability for expanded storage.
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Why is that? Because of how much the GNex flopped?
Oh wait... that's right. Everyone complained about it for the weeks prior to the release and then you didn't hear a word about it because it was never an actual problem.

We really need to get a Mod in here to just merge all the storage rant threads together. I'm not saying I'm not fully satisfied with the storage issue, but I'm not making a new one despite the fact there's already about five (as far as I've seen, probably more) threads which state exactly what you're stating.

Hello, please use one of these threads:
Poll: what size storage do you need?
How much memory are you using????
Stop Complaining About The Storage!
Storage Solution.
Worried about space? Possible solution...
or just the more general complaining thread here:
Google ******* fails again...
Thanks
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POLL: How many phones ordered?

This is an attempt to count the Sales of phones Google sold on day one. Lets face it, a good percentage of people who ordered this phone browse these forums......So if you ordered 2 or 3 lets count those as well. All countries included....
How many phones did you buy?
Also if you are one of the ones reselling on Ebay, lets NOT count those....you don't need to identify yourself of course, just remain silent...... So we can add roughly 280 for those......

There's already a thread.

Only 2% of all those that buy nexus use xda lol...but ok 1

I only bought 1 for myself. The profit margin here from reselling does not seem worth it to me for the time and hassle of reselling. Plus I hate wanting something so bad but it being sold out cause of resellers.

Clay said:
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Yes, but it is not specific to the amount sold....it only asks if you managed to get 1 or if you got more than 1.....I am attempting to count how many of us were lucky enough to get one.

lazarat said:
Only 2% of all those that buy nexus use xda lol...but ok 1
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I honeslty have no clue as to the percentage, but I would think it would be a lot higher than 2% I would guess as much as 60-70% (this purely an UN-educated guess.....and based on the 7-800 pages of "did you get one?" thread.....)

I bought 3

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I bought 3
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Mark in the poll up top to count them up......I for one am not going to go through 10's if not hundreds of pages to count...Hence the poll! Thx.

I got an 8gb at midnight last night. Google said it should be here by Friday. We'll shall see about that. Got a case at 3am too lol.
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Jasonator said:
I honeslty have no clue as to the percentage, but I would think it would be a lot higher than 2% I would guess as much as 60-70% (this purely an UN-educated guess.....and based on the 7-800 pages of "did you get one?" thread.....)
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Doubtful - 3 people in my office tried and only one of us got. I'm the only one on XDA. To my knowledge others in the building tried, also not members of XDA. Various people I know were trying to get this, also not on XDA. We're the minority.

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Doubtful - 3 people in my office tried and only one of us got. I'm the only one on XDA. To my knowledge others in the building tried, also not members of XDA. Various people I know were trying to get this, also not on XDA. We're the minority.
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Thats very interesting. I buy and sell phones locally ( not the N4, this is for my personal use) and almost everyperson I deal with has heard of these forums....

Jasonator said:
Thats very interesting. I buy and sell phones locally ( not the N4, this is for my personal use) and almost everyperson I deal with has heard of these forums....
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They've heard of XDA, I've pointed them here on more than one occasion when they've had problems, but I'm the only registered member. So as members here with accounts, we are the minority.

where is 0? many people were unable to order a device.

If your answer is greater than 2, you should die in a fire, lol

UKROB86 said:
where is 0? many people were unable to order a device.
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I am merely trying to gauge how many people actually bought one...not ow many couldnt get one.

I got two, for me (Galaxy Nexus) & my girlfriend (original Galaxy S).

Absolutely the worst phone I've ever had

No storage space. The screen will spaz out if there is any moisture in the air. The screen sucks in general. I snapped mine in half. Avoid this phone at all costs.

I am using mine with Tempered Glass and a nice cover and it works like a charm. And about storage, it really depends on how many applications you're using, or how big these apps are. Don't expect high-end performance from a mid-end phone. You get what you pay for.

Its garbage.

I have a 2013 moto g without external SD card and I can put a lot of apps on it. Desire 510 is just a piece of trash. Bottom line.

Idk about you. I have the EU model and I have after a fresh install somewhere around 4GB of space for apps For me it's more than I need using it only for social apps and calls.

KevinClover said:
No storage space. The screen will spaz out if there is any moisture in the air. The screen sucks in general. I snapped mine in half. Avoid this phone at all costs.
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KevinClover said:
Its garbage.
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KevinClover said:
I have a 2013 moto g without external SD card and I can put a lot of apps on it. Desire 510 is just a piece of trash. Bottom line.
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Look dude....If you don't like it then why in the world did you bought it? This is a mid-range device, you can't expected to perform like the S7, M10 or G4. It simply wasn't build for it. If you didn't do some research before you bought it...the fault is yours. I knew that the screen wasn't good two weeks before I purchased mine but I also knew that adding a Tampered Glass protection will resolve the issue. The RAM and processor are good, even some very demanding games can run on it (with a few reasonable lags). As for the storage. You can always root it and delete all the bloatware from it. After that I ended up with 3.5 Gb user space. And if even that's not good enough for you...you can always buy a SD card. There are also ways to add the SD card as internal storage, make the apps install on the SD card, move app data to the SD card etc... My point is....always do research before you buy something that you need to rely on every day. If you don't like it, don't buy it, It's simple as that. Don't go on the Internet bashing how something doesn't measure up to your standards. As you can imagine all of us on this forum already know about the downsides of the Desire 510 and we either found a work around for the problem or we simply learned to live with it. I suggest you do the same.
Peace :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

Dude first off this pos was given to me. Even so, I hate it. Second do nt cone me like you just gonna chastise me over my opinion of a garbage phone. I didn't read any of it anyways. Don't comment on any more of my posts if it ain't gonna be helpful or I'll report toi to admin. Now get up of my stat and don't ever bother me again with your bs.

Qlink gave me that garbage and everybody else I know who got qlink had got 2015 moto e. I got trash.

KevinClover said:
Dude first off this pos was given to me. Even so, I hate it. Second do nt cone me like you just gonna chastise me over my opinion of a garbage phone. I didn't read any of it anyways. Don't comment on any more of my posts if it ain't gonna be helpful or I'll report toi to admin. Now get up of my stat and don't ever bother me again with your bs.
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Look...I'm sorry if I offended you in some way. I really didn't mean to. (I'm from Europe and the way we talk here is a bit different)
I believe that my previous post was helpful (not much but helpful in a descent way). You also didn't specify what kind of help you need, so my post above was a general advice. But if you need help with anything specific, just ask, I'm sure that me or somebody else from these forums will help you out. And again, I'm really sorry if I offended you in some way.

Theres no way you got 3.5 gigs of user space on an HTC desire 510. Any more stories? And yeah I had the pos rooted and running apps2sd. I deleted all I could and replaced apps with smaller versions. The most space I could come up with was about 750-800 mb. So quit lying dude you sound dumb on a forum all about phones. Did you not read my post where I said that I did have this phone? HAD. Till I smashed it. 3.5 GB my ass. Show me a screenshot of that.

KevinClover said:
Theres no way you got 3.5 gigs of user space on an HTC desire 510. Any more stories? And yeah I had the pos rooted and running apps2sd. I deleted all I could and replaced apps with smaller versions. The most space I could come up with was about 750-800 mb. So quit lying dude you sound dumb on a forum all about phones. Did you not read my post where I said that I did have this phone? HAD. Till I smashed it. 3.5 GB my ass. Show me a screenshot of that.
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It may not be exactly 3,5 but its close...

KevinClover said:
Theres no way you got 3.5 gigs of user space on an HTC desire 510. Any more stories? And yeah I had the pos rooted and running apps2sd. I deleted all I could and replaced apps with smaller versions. The most space I could come up with was about 750-800 mb. So quit lying dude you sound dumb on a forum all about phones. Did you not read my post where I said that I did have this phone? HAD. Till I smashed it. 3.5 GB my ass. Show me a screenshot of that.
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Lmfao @ this thread now.

Deleted. Decided to not even entertain your opinion.
Eh, lucky number 13 might as well.
Arrogant, ignorant, bullies with a false sense of entitlement, such as yourself are the reason the Devs abandoned this device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66265198&postcount=17
Thanks.
There is a place for threads like this. It's called Reddit. Good luck.

KevinClover said:
Don't comment on any more of my posts if it ain't gonna be helpful or I'll report toi to admin.
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Two things:
1.) You made a typo. I'm assuming "toi" meant to be "it".
2.) Denny's posts are the only things useful about this thread. This thread is more garbage than the phone that you claim to be garbage. XDA is a place for innovation and expansion, not complaining. If you wanna complain like a stereotypical teenage girl, get an Instagram and blab on that. Nobody wants to hear your crap.
bg260 said:
Deleted. Decided to not even entertain your opinion.
Eh, lucky number 13 might as well.
Arrogant, ignorant, bullies with a false sense of entitlement, such as yourself are the reason the Devs abandoned this device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66265198&postcount=17
Thanks.
There is a place for threads like this. It's called Reddit. Good luck.
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Agreed