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I want to do a full wipe of all data when going from ROM to ROM installing to EMMC.
So far each time I install, some files are left over in one or other area.
I have yet to find a complete answer/quide on how to go about completely cleaning everything before installing a new ROM?
(Ideally the equivalent of formating and partitioning before installing Windows...)
At the moment I am cautious to try the WIPES and FACTORY RESET options in CWM as I have not found a solid answer as to what they do here.
(Is CWM the way to go here?)
Thanks for any help
There is utility like that for GTAB but didn't see one for NC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974422
And in this post all the way down in OP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985705
Let me see if I understand this correctly, you're saying you manually format each partition under CWR and are sketched about using the factory reset function? Ive both wiped and flashed between various emmc based roms as well as EXT4 based roms to the (EXT2?) based roms without a problem. Each time I use the correct CWR and manually format /system, /data, and /cache. If i'm understanding your question correctly then I hope this helps. It may not be the fix you're looking for but it works.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly, you're saying you manually format each partition under CWR and are sketched about using the factory reset function? Ive both wiped and flashed between various emmc based roms as well as EXT4 based roms to the (EXT2?) based roms without a problem. Each time I use the correct CWR and manually format /system, /data, and /cache. If i'm understanding your question correctly then I hope this helps. It may not be the fix you're looking for but it works.
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yeah - thanks, i think that is pretty much what i am after.
What is the difference between factory reset/wipe and formating the system/data partitions?
Is there anything on the boot partition that might get left over?
Hello. I've tried flashing some kernels for my stock rom, but ended up stuck on lg boot logo. The kernels converted my filesystem to ext4. After i get stuck, i tried to recover my backup of stock rom, but no success - after recovering, it got stucked on lg logo with loading. Is it because that EXT4 thing? I got pissed, and ended up installing CM7, which i don't like, but i have no choice - otherwise i can't use my phone. I really want to go back to stock, so if i use BacktoEXT3 to my phone (which converts the filesystem to ext3), can i recover my stock rom successfully? Of course something may be wrong with the backup (before i recovered it successfully though), so can i just download some EuroOpen rom(v10b), and flash it through CWM? Thanks very much in advance.
If you use back2ext3, it will obliterate your data on all partitions so you'll have to start from scratch. What does exist, though, is a CWM zip that will fix a kernel for EXT4 use. You'd have to find it though, it's on here somewhere.
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If you use back2ext3, it will obliterate your data on all partitions so you'll have to start from scratch. What does exist, though, is a CWM zip that will fix a kernel for EXT4 use. You'd have to find it though, it's on here somewhere.
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Back2Ext3 will not delete my internal sd card contents right? (cwm is in there)
With restore, i'll get the partitions back, so no problem use back2ext3 then, right?
-flash back2ext3
-restore stock froyo v10b
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can i make this?
martinesko36 said:
Back2Ext3 will not delete my internal sd card contents right? (cwm is in there)
With restore, i'll get the partitions back, so no problem use back2ext3 then, right?
-flash back2ext3
-restore stock froyo v10b
-happy face
can i make this?
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Correct on all accounts. Happy face.
Yeah try it and share results
Several users have complained that they get blank screens and cannot flash new roms to their Nook Color. And sometimes they end up in a recovery bootloop where it will do nothing but boot to recovery no matter what they choose in the boot menu. Sometimes this is due to corrupted partitions on internal memory.
DizzyDen has prepared some .img files that can be burned to emmc to repair some of these issues, and they work well. But some of the files are very large and it takes a little knowledge of adb commands on the part of the users. And some users cannot get adb working on their machines. So I started investigating other solutions, and I have made some tools that work that I hope are user friendly.
Dean Gibson has a thread that describes how to repartition emmc to set the partition sizes for data and media to the user's preference. He repartitions partitions p6 (data), p7 (cache) and p8 (media). In studying his zip, I figured out how to make his tool repair partitions p4 (extended), p5 (system), p6 (data), p7 (cache), and p8 (media). And I was able to add additional commands to also repair partition p1 (boot). I asked Dean's permission to post his tools as modified by me and he agreed. Thanks Dean!
So that takes care of partitions 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.
Partitions 2 and 3 are very special and one must be very careful with them. Partition 2 is 'rom', which holds information that is specific to the user's device (serial number, etc.), and it is used by the system to set flags for deciding whether to boot to recovery or not and set the boot count that is used to decide whether to do a reset to factory conditions (8 failed boots). Partition 3 is 'factory' and holds the factory.zip file used by the 8 failed boot reset (if you want to learn more about the 8 failed boot reset, go to my tips thread linked in my signature). It also holds a backup of the device information in partition 2. So it is possible to repair partition 2 if partition 3 is still intact.
A few users have somehow managed to flash Nook Tablet ROMs to their Nook Colors and really messed up partition 4. (Edit: and now I know how it happened, some idiot recommended that they remove the first line of the updater script. NEVER do that! That line is a safety check to make sure you are flashing to the right device. You can also defeat the safety check by using an old CWM that has the toggle, 'disable asserts'. Never do that either.) And since partition 4 is the extended partition that holds partitions 5, 6, 7, and 8, they get messed up too. To repair those partitions along with partition 1, use CWM recovery to flash the two zips attached below. Be warned that everything in emmc media (p8) will be wiped out, so you may want to back that up first if you still can. The first zip to flash is 'NookColor-emmc-repair-partitions-1-4-5-6-7-8.zip'. It will recreate those partitions on emmc. As soon as you have sucessfully flashed that zip, you must reboot the Nook Color back to CWM so that the updated partition table is read by CWM. Then you need to flash 'NookColor-emmc-format-partitions-5-6-7-8.zip' (partitions 1 and 4 do not need formatting). It will format the newly created partitions to the correct structure. Now you can use CWM to restore an earlier nandroid backup or flash your favorite ROM (including stock, get version 1.4.3 that I have modified to be flashable with CWM here, or DizzyDen has posted some excellent 1.4.1 stock ROMs here). If you are going to flash a stock ROM, you must be sure to use the format zip or the stock ROM will not boot properly.
If you are in a recovery bootloop, the first thing I recommend trying is to use my CWM version 5.5.0.4 bootable SD that is discussed in my tips thread linked in my signature and has been modified to help get out of some kinds of recovery flag bootloops. If you are in a recovery bootloop that just hangs, it may get you out of it after exiting my CWM with the 'reboot' command in the menu. But if you are still in the loop after doing that, it may be because your device info is missing or corrupted in partition 2. It will not boot to a ROM without this info. (Specifically, it needs a file in /rom/devconf named DeviceID. It is a text file with your 16 digit serial number in it followed by a line feed, 17 bytes.) Try flashing with CWM my 'NookColor-emmc-repair-partition-2.zip' attached to this post to recreate that info. But I recommend this as a last resort, since messing with that partition is risky. That zip will recreate the partition, reset the flags and copy your device specific information from partition 3. But your partition 3 must be intact for this to work. If it is not, the zip will abort and do nothing.
Additionally, for those that do not want to use CWM, I have made a bootable SD that has an older version of TWRP here. Newer versions of TWRP will return an error message when trying to flash these zips. It also has been modified to get you out of some kinds of bootloops.
Two points of information. First, I have included a temporary copy of CWM 5.5.0.4 on the boot partition of my repair so that if tries to reboot to emmc before you put a ROM on it, it goes to CWM. It will be removed as soon as you restore a backup or flash a ROM. Second, the new partition scheme created with my zip is for the original Nook Color's 1GB data and 5GB media. If you want one of the other schemes (5GB data/1GB media or 2GB data/4GB media) go to Dean Gibson's thread and flash his zips after you have repaired your system with mine. See his thread here.
I'm adding a little extra information about emmc partition structure for those interested. With any MBR disk there can be a maximum of four primary partitions. So to have more than four partitions the last primary partition is created as an extended partition so multiple logical partitions can be made inside it. The emmc structure is: p1 (boot, fat, primary), p2 (rom, fat, primary), p3 (factory, ext3, primary), p4 (extended, going from end of p3 to end of the disk), p5 (system, ext2, logical, inside the extended), p6 (data, ext3, logical, inside the extended), p7 (cache, ext3, logical, inside the extended) and p8 (media, fat, logical, inside the extended).
You save my nook color
Thank you so much. My serial number and other information were recovered successfully. Without those information I could not boot into any rom. If you cannot boot into ROM after following the first 2 steps, try recover partition 2. It works for me.
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Thanks
My nook has been stuck in a "will not boot" state for about a week. I could run CWM and cyanoboot, but when ever I tried to boot CM I would get stuck at the "loading..." screen. I tried loading both CM7 & CM9 but neither one would boot.
I ran both repair scripts, reloaded CM7.1 and success!
Thanks Leapinlar! :good:
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Right from my 1st install I couldn't get the bar at the bottom of the screen, which made using the Kindle app more than a little difficult. This finally cleared everything off so I could start with a clean slate, and BINGO! I know have the bottom bar on all the screens. I assume when I go in to the Kindle app it will be ok now also (I just have to format a 16gb microSD and put in the Nook Color 1st).
I can't thank you enough!!!!
Ugh! Tried this method too, and I still cannot get the nook to boot into CWR or CWM. I tried the 8 boots thing too, but I don't know if I ever did it right because I have cyanogen mod installed on emmc. Not sure how to repair the partition if I cannot even boot into anything that allows me to flash the zip to the chip. I thought it may be the sd, but the sd cards work on my other nook. I have now basically dissembled my nook color trying to find any other solution I wish I knew what happened in the first place.
czarofthefrozentundra said:
Ugh! Tried this method too, and I still cannot get the nook to boot into CWR or CWM. I tried the 8 boots thing too, but I don't know if I ever did it right because I have cyanogen mod installed on emmc. Not sure how to repair the partition if I cannot even boot into anything that allows me to flash the zip to the chip. I thought it may be the sd, but the sd cards work on my other nook. I have now basically dissembled my nook color trying to find any other solution I wish I knew what happened in the first place.
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Did you try my version of the CWM bootable SD card? It is on my tips thread and has been modified to boot in certain types of recovery bootloops. Unless you get CWM running you cannot flash things to internal memory. And depending on where in the boot process it hangs, you may not be able to get adb working to put things there either. And the 8 failed boots will not work unless you have stock recovery still on emmc.
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Did you try my version of the CWM bootable SD card? It is on my tips thread and has been modified to boot in certain types of recovery bootloops. Unless you get CWM running you cannot flash things to internal memory. And depending on where in the boot process it hangs, you may not be able to get adb working to put things there either. And the 8 failed boots will not work unless you have stock recovery still on emmc.
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Yup. Tried the card. I believe I replaced the emmc with cyanogenmod back in the day. Starts, goes to loading, turns black, then done. Cannot do anything after that. Bummer, sounds like it is actually toast.
czarofthefrozentundra said:
Yup. Tried the card. I believe I replaced the emmc with cyanogenmod back in the day. Starts, goes to loading, turns black, then done. Cannot do anything after that. Bummer, sounds like it is actually toast.
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If you can get adb working while it is sitting there black, you can push the stock recovery files to partition one. Then you may be able to do the 8 failed boots. You can extract the stock recovery files from my zip in my tips thread.
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If you can get adb working while it is sitting there black, you can push the stock recovery files to partition one. Then you may be able to do the 8 failed boots. You can extract the stock recovery files from my zip in my tips thread.
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Worth a shot. Have nothing more to lose other than time. Maybe adb will work with you card in it. It didn't work with everything else I tried.
OMG OMG thank you soooo much for this thread , you saved my reading addict self from going insane ......
You've done a great job on collecting all of these useful things, especially for those who are stuck with their Nook Color boot looping. (I was once that guy) Dean helped me out with his data zips as well way back! Thanks for all this! :good: :victory:
Much thanks, leapinlar. Restored a nandroid with TWRP that was corrupted and lost my boot partition. I used your first 2 repair zips and I'm back in business. Your many contributions are greatly appreciated.
Mike T
OMG! Thank you so much for putting this up! Back at the beginning of the year I was having problems with my NC not going into USB Mode and only showing a black arrow when trying to load books and following this finally fixed it. Great write-up and instructions, thanks for the hard work.
I've been trying to restore my NOOK for about 2 weeks and this post has gotten me the farthest but i'm stuck at the point where my nook will start up, the "Read Forever" splash screen will come up and then it attempts to recover the system since i see an greenish Android screen come up for a second and then i get an error screen saying "Install Failed" with an image of a nook with an exclamation point in it's screen. I'm assuming i've really messed the nook up but here is where I am.
I've reformatted the partitions using your 1-4,5,6,7,8 zip
Rebooted to recovery
Formatted partiions 5,6,7,8 with your zip
Flashed your 1.4.3 stock rom
At this point I can't get any further since it appears something else is wrong and i didn't want to attempt the reformatting of partition 2 without asking if there is anything else i should try. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I've been trying to restore my NOOK for about 2 weeks and this post has gotten me the farthest but i'm stuck at the point where my nook will start up, the "Read Forever" splash screen will come up and then it attempts to recover the system since i see an greenish Android screen come up for a second and then i get an error screen saying "Install Failed" with an image of a nook with an exclamation point in it's screen. I'm assuming i've really messed the nook up but here is where I am.
I've reformatted the partitions using your 1-4,5,6,7,8 zip
Rebooted to recovery
Formatted partiions 5,6,7,8 with your zip
Flashed your 1.4.3 stock rom
At this point I can't get any further since it appears something else is wrong and i didn't want to attempt the reformatting of partition 2 without asking if there is anything else i should try. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Do the partition 2 repair. That is what is messed up and causing the reboot.
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Do the partition 2 repair. That is what is messed up and causing the reboot.
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I've tried the partition2 zip and received an error trying to mount the factory partition. Status 7 was the error code. Is there a way to fix this?
jmiklus01 said:
I've tried the partition2 zip and received an error trying to mount the factory partition. Status 7 was the error code. Is there a way to fix this?
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Oh, that is really bad news. That means your partition 3 is corrupted and there is no way to retrieve your device info, like serial number, etc. PM me and maybe I can help you get it partly working, but much of the device info is lost if that partition is truly corrupted.
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leapinlar said:
Oh, that is really bad news. That means your partition 3 is corrupted and there is no way to retrieve your device info, like serial number, etc. PM me and maybe I can help you get it partly working, but much of the device info is lost if that partition is truly corrupted.
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I've been trying to restore my daughter NC back to stock for couple months now and no success.
I did flash the P 1-4-5-6-7-8.zip and got this message after reboot:
"CWM-based Recovery v5.5.0.4
E: Can't mount /cache/recovery/command
E: Can't mount /cache/recovery/log
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
E: Can't mount /cache/recovery/last_log
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/last_log
during the reboot, there is a menu option to hit "n" for reboot mode option. when i hit "n" it gives me (attachment).
but it won't let me move up or down to select except for the 1st option
Help would be very appreciated
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I've been trying to restore my daughter NC back to stock for couple months now and no success.
I did flash the P 1-4-5-6-7-8.zip and got this message after reboot:
"CWM-based Recovery v5.5.0.4
E: Can't mount /cache/recovery/command
E: Can't mount /cache/recovery/log
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
E: Can't mount /cache/recovery/last_log
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/last_log
during the reboot, there is a menu option to hit "n" for reboot mode option. when i hit "n" it gives me (attachment).
but it won't let me move up or down to select except for the 1st option
Help would be very appreciated
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During reboot it should automatically go to CWM because everything else is wiped. The boot menu only lets you make the first choice because that is all that is there, everything else is wiped. You need to continue to use the CWM to flash the format zip next. Then you can flash a ROM. If the CWM that pops up is not working, use the bootable CWM SD.
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During reboot it should automatically go to CWM because everything else is wiped. The boot menu only lets you make the first choice because that is all that is there, everything else is wiped. You need to continue to use the CWM to flash the format zip next. Then you can flash a ROM. If the CWM that pops up is not working, use the bootable CWM SD.
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Thx for replied, the Nook just stock on loading and it won't let me do anything except for power up and down
[Q] I9001 error "E:format_volume: make_extf4fs failed on /dev/block/mmcblk1p2"
Hi guys,
I've been using Cyanogenmod 10.2 for some time now, from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2436670
Now I want to upgrade to CM 11, but when I try to wipe data I get this error, and when I reboot it's like nothing happened, all apps and files are there, absolutely nothing's changed. I've tried all sort of things, nothing from the other threads helped. Tried formating the sd card, partition, mounting/unmounting and formating. I have an internal sd card. I don't really get around this too much, I only have the basic knowledge of android systems.Any help?
Hi,
I can't really tell what your problem is, but obviously your recovery tries to wipe the wrong partition when wiping data. mmcblk1p2 means, the second partition on the internal sdcard (not the internal memory!). Strangely your recovery uses the wrong partition number.
No matter, I first recommend to reflash recovery (important: recovery from ADC Team) and ROM (CM10.2).
It looks like you've installed a kernel for dualboot (two different ROMs on one device, where the second one is located on the sdcard). If you did, just reflash CM10.2. If not, just make sure you're using ADC recovery and no custom kernel.
I hope this will help,
Fabian
Thanks for your reply,
I do remember installing some kernel, I think it was the one offered on the thread of CM 10.2 I previously mentioned. And I'm using CWM recovery. Should I just flash that recovery again?
Yeah, it'd be the best just to reflash recovery. Please use one of those: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463347
After that, just try again and tell your results
Thanks, will do soon
Success!
Will try CM 11 now, thanks a lot!
Question: I want to wipe everything from my HD+ and start completely fresh. What is safe to wipe and how do I do it in TWPR or CWM? A "factory reset" isn't good enough. It leaves old data around. But I've read too many stories about bricking a device by formatting /data using CWM.
Background: I've been running CM 10.2.1 for a few weeks now. Given what Jon Lee posted about Google and security, I thought I'd try a clean install of CM 10.2.1 without installing gapps, just to see what that's like. (And what services don't run.)
So I did the usual "factory reset" from TWRP and reinstalled CM 10.2.1. To my surprise, when I booted, the latest version of Google Play was still showing on the launcher!
I had used Link2SD to integrate the latest version of Google Play with the OEM system app. So apparently, that this was not wiped. And of course, internal media data is not wiped (not by TWRP, anyway) in a factory reset. But I thought /system was.
The TWRP FAQ has a page about wiping. It says
Depending on your device and its configuration, you may have options for wiping internal storage, external storage, sd-ext, android_secure, and/or an option for formatting data. There's almost no reason that you would ever need to use these items. These options are there for convenience. For instance, if you're getting ready to sell your device, then it's a good idea to wipe everything on the device so that the new owner doesn't get your private data.
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But they don't tell you which to select.
TWRP makes it confusing by offering to 1) wipe data, 2) internal storage, 3) SDcard or 4) SDcard data in Advanced Wipe. Which is it for wiping your media stuff?
From what I've read, "internal storage" should be the same as "SDcard." So why both? And how is "SDcard data" distinct from those two?
To make matters worse, in the Nook I thought there was an additional element of confusion because the Nook doesn't call the internal SDcard memory what everyone else calls it.
So let's say I am selling my HD+. Would I select all of the above and still be able to install a ROM clean?
Or would I brick?
I know that on a desk top computer if you want to start bare metal, you format the hard drive, wiping everything, and install onto that. But judging from what Succulent wrote in his blog about recovering from an EMMC crash, you can't start totally clean with Android. Apparently, Android needs some preexisting files on the "drive" in order to install. (Like the devconf folder, which contains your MAC and your serial number.)
[Am I understanding him correctly? He was talking about recovering from a tablet wrecked by the EMMC brick bug. Perhaps no /data partition at all, as he offers a script to rebuild/expand that partition?]
I have read stories of people bricking their tablets by formatting /data from CWM. I don't understand why that should brick it. Why couldn't you boot into recovery? How can the /data partition affect the /recovery partition?
So - has anybody done a complete wipe on their Nook HD+? Please explain, for those of us who are obsessive compulsive, exactly how you do it.
To wipe your device with CWM go to mounts and storage and format /system, /cache and 'data and datamedia'. A normal factory reset only wipes /cache and the portion of /data that does not hold your media files. It does not wipe /system. Usually the ROM install does that, but the install script has a feature that saves gapps if you are installing the same version of the ROM (eg, CM11 over CM11). So to get rid of everything, including media files and gapps, do what I said in the first sentence. Of course after formatting /system you must put a ROM back on it for it to boot.
And it is not /data formatting that is the brick problem, it is formatting the /bootdata partition. They are different things. Don't format that.
And succulent was talking about /rom partition which is different yet that needs to be left alone. That is where the devconf folder is. It contains things you need to keep.
If you want to understand the partition structure of the HD/HD+ go to my HD/HD+ Tips thread linked in my signature and read item 16.
And please read my PM to you about removing those assert removal instructions from my dummies thread.
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To wipe your device with CWM go to mounts and storage and format /system, /cache and 'data and datamedia'. A normal factory reset only wipes /cache and the portion of /data that does not hold your media files. It does not wipe /system. Usually the ROM install does that, but the install script has a feature that saves gapps if you are installing the same version of the ROM (eg, CM11 over CM11). So to get rid of everything, including media files and gapps, do what I said in the first sentence. Of course after formatting /system you must put a ROM back on it for it to boot.
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Thanks for the thorough answer. And explanations. I always find it easier to remember something when I understand the reason for it. So I didn't know before that the install scripts keep gapps.(But that's what I was deducing.)
I know to stay away from /rom and /boot. Hopefully, TWRP would not let one format those in their numerous choices for Advanced Wipe.
From what you've written before in one of your other threads, I know that you're not a fan of TWRP. So I still don't know what the similar commands are in TWRP for a total clean. But for now I can delete /system in TWRP and do the reinstall without gapps. When I'm ready for a total wipe, I'll revert to CWM.
Can we trade /factory for /swap?
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If you want to understand the partition structure of the HD/HD+ go to my HD/HD+ Tips thread linked in my signature and read item 16.
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Read it. (And made an image of my factory partition. And then moved it to my extSDcard for safer keeping.)
So, the Nook HD+ partition structure is a bit different from the stock Android partition stuff I had found on the web.
So, for those of us running a custom ROM, I presume the factory image doesn't do us much good anymore. Will the HD+ automagically restore after 8 failed boots?
If not (or even if it will), is there a way to take that 448MB in the /factory image partition and use them for, say, a /swap partition instead? I think an xda developer is doing something like this for the Galaxy Tab 2, where he's using some memory that Samsung uses for animations and uses them for ZRam instead. Since I've backed up the factory image, and since I already have your factory 2.0.2 ROM, I really don't need the image any more. Seems like wasted space.
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Read it. (And made an image of my factory partition. And then moved it to my extSDcard for safer keeping.)
So, the Nook HD+ partition structure is a bit different from the stock Android partition stuff I had found on the web.
So, for those of us running a custom ROM, I presume the factory image doesn't do us much good anymore. Will the HD+ automagically restore after 8 failed boots?
If not (or even if it will), is there a way to take that 448MB in the /factory image partition and use them for, say, a /swap partition instead? I think an xda developer is doing something like this for the Galaxy Tab 2, where he's using some memory that Samsung uses for animations and uses them for ZRam instead. Since I've backed up the factory image, and since I already have your factory 2.0.2 ROM, I really don't need the image any more. Seems like wasted space.
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You can play with the partitions all you want. Just don't ask me to help you fix it. You don't seem to heed my warnings anyway.
But other users be warned that factory partition has vital backup information there (it has more than just the factory zip there) and if you lose it, your device is as good as a paperweight. That is why I recommended all users back that partition up. Not for the factory zip, but for the backup files there. The device has other safety backup routines other than just restoring the stock ROM. An example is, I told you and succulent told you that devconf has vital files all ROMs need in /rom. Well, /factory has a backup of /rom there and if the device discovers /rom is messed up, it tries to repair itself. No /factory and no repair. Paperweight!
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You can play with the partitions all you want. Just don't ask me to help you fix it. You don't seem to heed my warnings anyway.
But other users be warned that factory partition has vital backup information there (it has more than just the factory zip there) and if you lose it, your device is as good as a paperweight. That is why I recommended all users back that partition up. Not for the factory zip, but for the backup files there. The device has other safety backup routines other than just restoring the stock ROM. An example is, I told you and succulent told you that devconf has vital files all ROMs need in /rom. Well, /factory has a backup of /rom there and if the device discovers /rom is messed up, it tries to repair itself. No /factory and no repair. Paperweight!
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Thanks for the quick response.
I am sorry that I seem to have gotten on your bad side. I did what you asked and moved my previous comment out of your thread. And I warned everyone that you don't think it's a good procedure.
And I did heed your warning. I made a backup of the factory partition and even moved the copy to my ext SD card for safer keeping. Especially since we were talking about wiping the sdcard. (Unless you're trying to say that storing the /factory img on the ext SD card is a bad idea because I won't be able to get it back to the internal SDcard if/when I need it.)
As for the devconf files, they're in the /rom partition. I don't understand how using the /factory partition for a /swap is going to ruin the /rom partition.
From what you're saying, the HD+ still has a "safety routine" built in, even when running custom recovery and a custom ROM? Does that mean that its safety routine is hard coded somewhere? Or part of the /rom code itself? How does the HD+ know to look in /factory when its running a non-factory OS? Does CM tell it to do that?
You're the expert. I'm just guessing here. If the /factory partition were used as a /swap, and if the system turned into a paperweight because it needed the /factory image later someday, then couldn't one go into recovery and copy the /factory partition back over, per your instructions? As a minimum, couldn't one use succulent's emmc recovery procedure to get back to factory status?
I'd be willing to trade that off for more performance.
How does one know when the HD+ goes into this safety routine? Does it tell you? Or is it transparent to the user? It would be interesting to know how often that happens. Does the safety routine then repair the /rom partition once booted if it detects a problem in /rom?
PMikeP said:
Thanks for the quick response.
I am sorry that I seem to have gotten on your bad side. I did what you asked and moved my previous comment out of your thread. And I warned everyone that you don't think it's a good procedure.
And I did heed your warning. I made a backup of the factory partition and even moved the copy to my ext SD card for safer keeping. Especially since we were talking about wiping the sdcard. (Unless you're trying to say that storing the /factory img on the ext SD card is a bad idea because I won't be able to get it back to the internal SDcard if/when I need it.)
As for the devconf files, they're in the /rom partition. I don't understand how using the /factory partition for a /swap is going to ruin the /rom partition.
From what you're saying, the HD+ still has a "safety routine" built in, even when running custom recovery and a custom ROM? Does that mean that its safety routine is hard coded somewhere? Or part of the /rom code itself? How does the HD+ know to look in /factory when its running a non-factory OS? Does CM tell it to do that?
You're the expert. I'm just guessing here. If the /factory partition were used as a /swap, and if the system turned into a paperweight because it needed the /factory image later someday, then couldn't one go into recovery and copy the /factory partition back over, per your instructions? As a minimum, couldn't one use succulent's emmc recovery procedure to get back to factory status?
I'd be willing to trade that off for more performance.
How does one know when the HD+ goes into this safety routine? Does it tell you? Or is it transparent to the user? It would be interesting to know how often that happens. Does the safety routine then repair the /rom partition once booted if it detects a problem in /rom?
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If you want to know more how the automatic repairs work, go to my Nook Color Tips thread linked in my signature and read item A12. The partition numbers are different but the repair process works exactly the same way on the HD/HD+, including the need for stock recovery to be installed. There are two ways to get your device automatically repaired if you have CM and CWM/TWRP recovery installed on internal memory. One is to flash stock recovery back per my item 5 in my HD/HD+ CWM thread, and the second is to flash the plain stock zip from item 6 there. That puts stock recovery back. Then it can repair /rom if need be.
And there is no real drawback of removing the factory.zip file from /factory partition since it is basically the same as a plain stock zip I have published. But the other files there are vital and should not be touched.
You got on my bad side by publishing that assert removal procedure on the help forum after I asked you to remove it from my thread. I don't want to make it easy for any user to do that as I consider it dangerous for noobs to do. See my response to your posting of that procedure.
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leapinlar said:
You got on my bad side by publishing that assert removal procedure on the help forum after I asked you to remove it from my thread. I don't want to make it easy for any user to do that as I consider it dangerous for noobs to do.
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Thanks for letting me know. Later last night, I saw a post of yours on the Nook Color (I think it was) where you thought that anyone who would remove the updater-script safety check was an "idiot."
Okay, so I'm an idiot. But I am free to be an idiot and start my own thread in the Help forum, right? Just as you are free to respond there as you did. That's what makes the forum go 'round.
PMikeP said:
Thanks for letting me know. Later last night, I saw a post of yours on the Nook Color (I think it was) where you thought that anyone who would remove the updater-script safety check was an "idiot."
Okay, so I'm an idiot. But it's my right to be an idiot and my right to start my own thread in the Help forum, right? Just as it's your right to respond there as you did. That's what makes the forum go 'round.
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As I recall, I did not say the person that removed the assert was an idiot, it was the person who recommended it that I said was an idiot. The user was a noob and knew no better. He was trying to flash a Nook Tablet ROM to his Nook Color and the assert kept failing (doing what it was designed to do). The idiot was the one that told him just to remove the assert. He did that and bricked his Nook Color.
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