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Battery Instability

Nowadays I have a weird problem. Even though I fully charge my phone, it behaves like battery is empty. It happens in two way:
1. After some usage, it can occur at 15%.
2. While showing battery is charged enough, you restart the phone. It starts as ciritical battery level.
3. For case 1, it can happen at higher levels as well. Screen starts flickering then phone shutsdown suddenly.
I tried calibration apk. I suspect it caused some problem also.
My system was stock 4.1.2 leak. I thought it may be reason, so I downgraded to ICS. But, I still have same problem...
Any1 has an idea? Battery or phone has problem or not?

May be time to get a new battery
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373728

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373728

I opened back cover now. I am very surprised. Battery got deformed. Middle part became thicker. It cannot fit to battery slot.
I think god saved me. It could explode.
This turned from question to possible Samsung defect. So, I am agree originally I made wrong choice. But, this topic is suitable for here in the light of my new finding.

necrocavus said:
I opened back cover now. I am very surprised. Battery got deformed. Middle part became thicker. It cannot fit to battery slot.
I think god saved me. It could explode.
This turned from question to possible Samsung defect. So, I am agree originally I made wrong choice. But, this topic is suitable for here in the light of my new finding.
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I have the exact same problem! Been wanting to change the battery but haven't found it. If you buy a new battery and everything comes back to normal, please let us know!

I have same issue as OP. My screen starts to flicker at 15% as if it's about to lose power any second.
Happens with OEM battery as well as two aftermarket hyperion batteries.

Same here.. my batterry was a little bulged at the middle and i thought it is still ok.. then it started acting up..
-It says fully charged on the battery indicator while turned off and charging
- when I turn it on, it says 50%..
- when I get to recovery (philZ stock kernel recovery) it says 1%
Then it got worse and wont turn on when unplugged... Bought a battery at our local samsung store and all the problems went away!

capitansid said:
Same here.. my batterry was a little bulged at the middle and i thought it is still ok.. then it started acting up..
-It says fully charged on the battery indicator while turned off and charging
- when I turn it on, it says 50%..
- when I get to recovery (philZ stock kernel recovery) it says 1%
Then it got worse and wont turn on when unplugged... Bought a battery at our local samsung store and all the problems went away!
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Awesome!! That's what I wanted to know! Now I'll look for the battery.
Does anybody know why this happens?

I had this issue last month. Changed to Mugen battery. Everything's good now.
All the symptoms described here are dying battery issues. Have them replaced before your note dies.

I was unaware of this situation and I downgraded by JellBean to first GB, then ICS. I am lucky it did not shutdown during firmware install.
I went to some official Samsung technical service. They will give me a new battery soon. I am using my Sony Ericsson Walkman series phone Luckily I have iPad with cellular. Now, I will just wait and I will hope everything will be ok.

I bought a 7000 mAh battery on ebay. It's awesome! No problem now. My battery last all day :good:

Anybody know what rom less drain battery??
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vinxarc said:
Anybody know what rom less drain battery??
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Any cm rom will do the job
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[Q] Initial Battery

hi there i am expecting to get the HTC One in the coming days, and im wondering what is the best way to charge it out of the box?
as it comes with around half battery life, should i turn it on and use it ? or should i charge it straight away?
thanks

rohiroro said:
hi there i am expecting to get the HTC One in the coming days, and im wondering what is the best way to charge it out of the box?
as it comes with around half battery life, should i turn it on and use it ? or should i charge it straight away?
thanks
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Either or is fine. Just limit completely draining your battery when using lithium ion/lithium polymer batteries. :good:

mang0 said:
Either or is fine. Just limit completely draining your battery when using lithium ion/lithium polymer batteries. :good:
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so i can use it straight out the box ?

well you can't use it in the box can you?

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well you can't use it in the box can you?
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ahahah but i just dont want it to ruin the long term battery life so im not sure on what to do

rohiroro said:
ahahah but i just dont want it to ruin the long term battery life so im not sure on what to do
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Just charge it to 100% and give it an hour or so more and then give it a few cycles once every few weeks, chances are your'e going to be getting rid in two years so don't worry too much.

Out of the box, just set up your phone and play with it until it dies. Then charge it up to 100%. When it's around 95%, stop playing with the phone and just let it sit until it fully charges.
After that, stop worrying about battery calibration because it's all hocus pocus cargo cult pointlessness. If you have battery problems, use BBS to diagnose them.

[Q] things to be done on battery after getting new htc one

I am new in HTC phones. I will get my htc one after 2 days, i mainly want to know about battery charging cycles. how can we do that to get maximum battery life. what is mean by battery calibration ? is the battery to be calibrated in every weak ? sorry for my bad english

Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone

Just use it. Charge it when you need to, charge it when you can, top up charge is fine. Calibration is a myth. You don't need to do anything or not do anything abnormal.
Letting it run out and leaving it empty is a bad idea. Charging it, turning it off, charging it, and whatever other voodoo is recommended is a bad idea.

Lol at two contradicting responses.
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asif9t9 said:
Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??

One charge for a day is enough for htc one if you don't play games

If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.

Riyal said:
If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
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How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Guich said:
Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.

BenPope said:
Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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I don't use this method.
But my friend have a very good battery life with it.
So, why don't share?
I don't use it because i can't do this, it's simple

HTC One Battery Conditioning
sarathsnair said:
is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??
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G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.

It's based on scientific facts.
When your battery has high load(Almost fully charged) more ions inside the battery are stored there hence doing alot of chemical changes in the battery. And chemical change is the only reason why our batteries here are losing it's capacity.
And the reason why I set 30% as the minimum is because you don't want your battery to be drained too much as there's likely chances that you'll completely drain it causing it to be broken also.
And why limit the examples on HTC One batteries? Is this a serious question or just a joke? We all know that HTC One was just released months ago and another obvious fact is it has a non removable battery. So obviously the answer would be none.
And about real life proofs about my usage and how it affects battery life do you want me to show you a nokia 3310 model still up and running for almost a 8 years now? Also want me to show you my nokia n900 which is already about 4 years now and still kicking it's battery perfectly up to now? I could have also showed you my n95 up and running till now if only it didn't break it's flex cable.
There's no such thing as integrated ticking time bomb on your battery(like rumors in the 20th century where they say electronic ICs have a hard coded date where they will totally shut off) where it would just instantly die once it reach it's recharge limit. What manufacturer in their right mind would do that? Smartphone business isn't a monopoly and every competitor would want the best of them all on their products. Also if this myth would have been true most people's device wouldn't even last a year due to plugging your phone on a computer would initiate a charge also. So would that mean that if I plug my phone on my PC 5x a day and charge it once a day it would only last roughly 6months? lol!
Also here's a good website that would backup my claim.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Partial and random charge is fine; does not need full charge; lower voltage limit preferred; keep battery cool.
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Prevent full cycles, apply some charge after a full discharge to keep the protection circuit alive.
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Keep cool, battery lasts longest when operating in mid state-of-charge of 20–80%. Prevent ultra-fast charging and high loads.
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BenPope said:
How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Did you read those websites? Because their numbers and yours don't agree. So either you made up the numbers or you obtained your scientific facts from elsewhere.

As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.

I thinks the powersave is the best route when not playing any games. If you play games then you can call it quits!
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OzBoy08 said:
G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
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As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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thank u so much

milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?

BenPope said:
Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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As much as I know, dont drain the battery too much the first time you take it out the box. All batteries comes with a little charge in it. Had a friend who used to work at a mobile company and I cant remember the term he used to describe that. But the first charge doesnt have to be exactly 8hrs. Phone might be fully charged after 4-6hrs if you hadnt used it much from the box. Just dont unplug it before it reaches 100% on the first charge. Let it get to full and leave it for another 10-15mins and its good to go.

Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.

anotherfakeusername said:
I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
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Some devices have this problem.
Mine not.
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Where to get replacement batteries

Oneplus 3 is an awesome phone no doubt (if you don't damage it). However with the dash charging, there's a high chance we might need replacement batteries for the phone after a year or two.
Does anyone know where we would be able to obtain dash capable batteries for replacement? It would be a great disappointment if we are not able to replace it.
*it is a concern because at least in Singapore, there is 0 support despite purchasing a local set. You will be given an email to make an appointment to bring your set down to a location, but NO ONE will respond to your email. Oneplus Singapore Facebook as well as official reseller do not provide any support either.

Why would Dash Charge wreck the battery? Afterall if anything the phone heats up less than other phones, because the charging is handled by the adapter, not the phone.

BolintsMiki said:
Why would Dash Charge wreck the battery? Afterall if anything the phone heats up less than other phones, because the charging is handled by the adapter, not the phone.
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You have a point there. However, batteries will eventually degrade, so it would be great to be able to do a replacement when the time comes

8monochrome said:
You have a point there. However, batteries will eventually degrade, so it would be great to be able to do a replacement when the time comes
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Most damage to a battery is done at night when you charge a phone when you've gone to sleep, as the charger will put it to 100% and keep it there throughout the night, which puts more strain on the battery. (just look into Sony Qnovo battery charging tech in their new phones).
The dash charger has been proven to change people's charging habits. For example I wake up at 7.30am to go to work at 9am, as soon as I wake up I put my phone on charge. Thus meaning it stays at 100% for less time, and so degrades slower.

just keep your battery b/w 40-80% and it's all good

Prince Chandela said:
just keep your battery b/w 40-80% and it's all good
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That's bull**** and bears any real usage

Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf

panther124 said:
Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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Awesome! However, the battery capacity seems to be much lower than 3000mah

Stay away from buying non oem batteries. You don't want your phone to be the next Note 7 lol.

Again you wont need a new battery. It degrade really slow. The problem with fastcharging is heat. Batteries dont like heat. Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%. Again it doesnt matter what you do.. If u drain it to 0% its not fully empty so really doesnt matter!

Demian3112 said:
Again you wont need a new battery. It degrade really slow. The problem with fastcharging is heat. Batteries dont like heat. Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%. Again it doesnt matter what you do.. If u drain it to 0% its not fully empty so really doesnt matter!
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Personally I change battery ever 1.5 to 2 years. Batteries have a lifespan and degrade over time. It degrades faster with heat. It's quite disappointing that no one is sellong replacements though.

Demian3112 said:
Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%.
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Exactly. The controller stops the current flow at full charge. It will not top it up if you keep it plugged in such as in the overnight scenario.

panther124 said:
Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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The model number on eBay is BLP607.
You'll need BLP613 for OP3.

Maybe after a longer time there will be more replacements, if there aren't already.
If the OnePlus's battery it good I don't see a need for a replacement personality because I change phone after 2 years, when factory support ends and I'm tired of the phone.

I am pretty sure you can't wait to buy a new one before the battery degrade to an unacceptable level.
Like my OnePlus 1, which still has a quite decent battery time, though it has already become my son's toy.
So, don't worry about this too much.

Majority of the users will replace their phones instead of a degraded battery within 2 years. Unless the battery is defective then yea that would be understandable. If you are one the minority who upgrades every 3+ years then kudos to yall for having the will power to resist the upgrade fever.

is there no one who works at one plus and also uses xda?
that dude can help us in getting batteries from the supplier of one plus.
I am using my xperia ZL since 2013. i changed its battery a while ago. now i feel it is time to change my device. moving on to one plus 3 soon.

I think my OnePlus 3 battery is pretty broaken already. Last me for around 4 houers so i need to recharge it several times a day.
I cant find a original battery, so ill probably have to get a not OEM one

Hilmy said:
I think my OnePlus 3 battery is pretty broaken already. Last me for around 4 houers so i need to recharge it several times a day.
I cant find a original battery, so ill probably have to get a not OEM one
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Strange. Are you on stock ROM?

DBrandon said:
Strange. Are you on stock ROM?
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Yes I am. Android 7.1.1 and Oxygen 4.1.3
AccuBattery says my battery is 87% helathy and on 2611 mAh instead of 3000mAh, but feels like much less

Should i charge my N9 when i get it??

Phone arrives in 3 hrs..
Should i charge up the phone streight away..or use it on the residual charge thats in the battery till it dies...yhen fully charge it up...
Thxs

I've never been able to receive a new device and let it charge all the way up before using it. Today will be no different for me, I'm playing with my new Note 9 as soon as I take it out of the box. IMO, battery conditioning is not necessary. I've never worried about it, and I've never had problems with battery life.

Hello for battery calibration is recommanded to charge it at 5% to 100%

Just enjoy it. Mine came with 60 pc and charged at 15. Never done any ritual dance or calibration and never had a problem.

Got mine with 55% and used until it died. Like the others have said, I've never worried about when and how long I've charged a battery and never had issues.

There are tons of info on this online. General rule is you do not want to charge 100% nor run it down to 0%. This is bad for the battery. I just try to keep my phone away from 0 and 100. Usually at 40-70. Accubattery app is pretty helpful in this regard.

eaoosa said:
There are tons of info on this online. General rule is you do not want to charge 100% nor run it down to 0%. This is bad for the battery. I just try to keep my phone away from 0 and 100. Usually at 40-70. Accubattery app is pretty helpful in this regard.
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That makes zero sense.
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That makes zero sense.
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I agree. Except for the fact that science shows it's right. People are actually paid to do this research, unlike us posting on a message board with our opinions that make zero sense. Do with your phone as you like, obviously, but don't disregard the science out of hand. Most people don't care because they keep their phone for a year and dump it, if you want to preserve battery life and keep a phone for longer than a year it makes good sense to follow the science.

Semantics said:
I agree. Except for the fact that science shows it's right. People are actually paid to do this research, unlike us posting on a message board with our opinions that make zero sense. Do with your phone as you like, obviously, but don't disregard the science out of hand. Most people don't care because they keep their phone for a year and dump it, if you want to preserve battery life and keep a phone for longer than a year it makes good sense to follow the science.
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Strange...every phone I've ever owned has had a battery that lasts longer than a year.
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The first time I get a new device, I like to drain the battery completely before charging it again. It's become a habit, and my devices' batteries have never given me issues. Not about to change now.

thepubguy said:
Phone arrives in 3 hrs..
Should i charge up the phone streight away..or use it on the residual charge thats in the battery till it dies...yhen fully charge it up...
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It really doesn't matter for todays batteries.

You should all watch this video for the truth about modern cell phone batteries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF2O4l1JprI

I did the 40-80% on my note 8 regularly. The next owner will be much pleased ?
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thepubguy said:
Phone arrives in 3 hrs..
Should i charge up the phone streight away..or use it on the residual charge thats in the battery till it dies...then fully charge it up...
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I would say this:
After you are done setting up the phone, erased cache in recovery and ready to play with it, do this first to avoid calibration issues...
1. Use the phone and let the battery get drained to zero and shut down automatically.
2. See if it turns on (without charging) by pressing the power on key. Probably it won't but if it does , use and let it drain till it shuts down.
3. Now charge it fully without switching the phone on.
4. Turn it on , plug the charger and charge it again for the remaining charge to fill.
5. Use the phone and don't charge in between at all. Let the battery get drained to zero and shut down.
6. Repeat steps 3, 4 and 5.
7. Plug the charger, switch it on and charge till 100%. It's calibrated now, I believe.
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After this, DO NOT repeat this 100 to Zero and Zero to 100% charging 'coz it'll shorten the battery health and if you plan to use the phone for say above one year, 2 yrs etc. Now on, Do not let it go below say.. 20 % and above, say 70,80 %. Keep charging in the middle whenever you feel like. It'll keep the battery healthy and will last longer.

Some people are so damn stubborn. The researchers... nevermind.

I didn't want to let my phone die because my friend's note 8 bricked because of it. I trickle charged it and managed to get it to start again after an hour. But then he left it on and it bricked again. So I didn't want to risk it. I had a portable charger so I let it juice up while I was playing with it lol

Just use the damn phone. :laugh:

The other advice is to keep your phone cool when new as you're updating and transferring data etc batteries don't like heat.

Let it die, let it stay without electricity for 3-4 hours and charge it. Let it stay at %100 for 1 hour.

the legend says u should chatge it one u take it out of the box
don`t believe that.. i got my s7 edge and i didn`t charge it first time, i played with it until itvget 12% charge then i charged it to 100%
i didn`t get any problem with battery at all