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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/
Welcome to AT&T Wireless...
All I can say is F_*$
I hate AT&T! I used to have both At&t and T-mobile and I left the death star because of their terrible customer service! Now I have to go to Sprint or Verizon..most likely Verizon because of their coverage. However its going to cost me almost Double. Again all I can say is ****!
I just put a 32gb memory card in my HD7, this super sucks.
I was thinking to myself, sh!t! AT&T sucks! I then realized, well the monstrous GSM network would be pretty cool. I just hope they don't mess with the unlimited data plan, or the attractive prices. I use my phone a lot, and unfortunately some of us have to stay on 3G data at all times because we can't all afford home internet for WiFi (where I live it is NOT affordable). I also enjoy my 85 dollar phone bill, a considerable drop from the $120/mo. AT&T or Verizon charge.
sirandrew said:
Welcome to AT&T Wireless...
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I believe it's "AT&T Mobility" **** I have a bad feeling about this.
Luisraul924 said:
I believe it's "AT&T Mobility" **** I have a bad feeling about this.
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LOL - Indeed... there goes my rate plan out the window.
I have been here before.
I was with what was the Original At&t Wireless, they sold out to Cingular, and they sold out again and back to the At&t nameplate. So I was on a great plan and had been on a great plan for many years. At&t started turning off services on my plan. Every time I would call they would just say..."well you are on a legacy plan and we don't support that anymore. You need to sign up for a new plan at twice the cost if you want those features."And I am not talking about major stuff, call forwarding, paging, voice mail, etc. I see this coming again for all of us T-Mobile customers that have been with them for sometime. I was an originally a voicestream customer and now I will switch carriers, most likely to Verizon, if I am going to pay that much for service I will go where I get the best coverage. I know the drawbacks of both but I refuse to ever give At&t another penny after the way they treated me the last time I was a customer. It's sad to see a company that takes care of its customers like T-Mobile not be able to keep up in this Monopolistic world. Just another example of what deregulation has brought to the USA. We will be down to three major carriers with this merger and I will bet it will be two soon. So much for competition and lower prices.
Yeah, this is pretty bad. Hopefully when the deal goes through next year they will let me out of my contract without penalty.
they will if they change your plan. t-mobile has a 3000 minute, unlimtied text and data family plan (limited time only) that's $10 cheaper than their 1500 family plan with the same features....mine kicks in 3/29 for 2 years...if it changes, i leave ETF free.
linky http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/...re-for-Families-3000-Talk-Text-Unlimited-Data
What does this ultimately mean for T-Mobile customers?
Will T-Mobile still keep their branding name?
there will still be t-mobile, but only in the u.k., no more t-mobile usa.
mr8820 said:
there will still be t-mobile, but only in the u.k., no more t-mobile usa.
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This is correct. It'll just be AT&T. I wonder, given Sprint's situation, if Verizon will pick them up as they are using the same cell technology as each other. It would be a massive duopoly. I'm not sure how that would affect the prices, it might drive prices lower faster given that they'll only mainly be looking at each other in terms of "scopin the comp out".
****ing sucks...
LMAO I still dont see what the big deal is aside from prices going up however
i dont see what the big issue is with At&t
aside from capping data and the 4g debacle.
I had them and they were pretty decent to me
Nothing will happen for a year. ATT primarily wants TMO's AWS spectrum and other assorted IP. THEN they'll assimilate everyone
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LMAO I still dont see what the big deal is aside from prices going up however
i dont see what the big issue is with At&t
aside from capping data and the 4g debacle.
I had them and they were pretty decent to me
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Prices going up: If I bought the same services (but still less than what I'm getting from TMo) from AT&T it would cost me an extra $35 a month (from $119 to $154). That's $420 a year. That is a pretty significant difference.
The closest package I could get with both Verizon and Sprint is $188 a month. That's $828 more a year. With less competition, it's significantly more likely that AT&T will raise their prices to Verizon and Sprint's level as opposed to the other way around.
If this deal falls through, how are we supposed to feel about tmobile?
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when I　hear the news feel sad........so...there isn't any cheap price anymore guys.
My friend works for T-Mobile as an engineer, he said expect T-Mobile to implement all the changes MUCH sooner than we expect. He said his division is already being broken up & relocated. Some are getting their walking papers. The T-Mobile employees aren't too happy about this either. Also confirmed that older phones like the HD2 will not be supported with 3G capabilities on at&t's network. But even though the deal won't be complete for a few months, they will start making most changes sooner, so the transition will move along smoother. Basically us that love T-Mobile & hate at&t are screwed.
Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
Yuhfhrh said:
It's not fair :'(
My grandparents live in a rural area and its where I spend about 1/4 of the year. Tmobile and Att are GPRS, but Sprint and Verizon have 3g. Its the only internet there and I need reliable internet for work. I can't get the new Nexus.
I know I'm in a small boat of people but I'm still going to post my sob story. I just love the Nexus program.
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That really sucks, but yeah, I think Google itself has said that it did not like how the Verizon Galaxy Nexus turned out. In the end, if anyone's been there through the Galaxy S, or S2, or S3, we do know that carrier's influence really does bring down phones, such as a slower processor or bloatware or lack of features. Still, they could have opted for some type of CDMA model but I'm not sure whether they need to work directly with Verizon/Sprint to make it happen.
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Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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Yeah, I'm kinda bummed about this as well. I'm on Ting, which rides Sprint's network (and occasionally Verizon's voice network), and this phone annihilates everything else in the price range. The best unsubsidized option at $300 at the moment is the Samsung Galaxy Victory, which while capable, isn't exactly a phone to get excited about--while the SGSIII clocks in starting at $530. The Nexus line has been really appealing as far as price/quality goes. I was really hoping this would end up on Sprint so I could send a well-built phone out to my mom in the sticks where LTE probably won't rear it's ugly head for another few years.
Oh well, I suppose I can take solace from the fact that I couldn't get this phone even if I'd stuck with Verizon.
I've been on Cingular then T-Mobile for 4 years. Ported to Verizon just for the Galaxy Nexus. Now I'm paying the ETF and porting over to at&t. No real problems with Verizon, its just their LTE network is abysmal on battery...and I work for at&t so I get a good discount on service. Just waiting for a good reason to switch.
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I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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You'll be glad once you do too, unless you are living in some area where there is no access to T-Mobile 3G. Otherwise its so much better.
eksasol said:
You'll be glad once you do too, unless you are living in some area where there is no access to T-Mobile 3G. Otherwise its so much better.
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Haha yeah, Sprint has been getting better for me, however their speed still sucks when compared to AT&T and T-mobile in my area. Plus, my plan is nearly $100, when I seriously just want text and data lol, I don't care about talking. And also, I find it annoying being on a CDMA network because all these great phone come out, and I have to wait a pro-longed time period to get my hands on one.
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Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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I am switching from Sprint for this very reason. Tired of missing out on all the good phones aaaaaannnnnnnd Sprint service is horrible in centrel florida
drew_grant said:
I've been on Cingular then T-Mobile for 4 years. Ported to Verizon just for the Galaxy Nexus. Now I'm paying the ETF and porting over to at&t. No real problems with Verizon, its just their LTE network is abysmal on battery...and I work for at&t so I get a good discount on service. Just waiting for a good reason to switch.
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If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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Been there done that. 2GB of data and I got warning calls. Don't expect them to be good at all!
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Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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I'll be doing the same thing, but I may ride the T-Mobile side of the service for faster 3G.
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Been there done that. 2GB of data and I got warning calls. Don't expect them to be good at all!
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I have went over 5gb's a month on ST and never experienced slow down or ever had a warning message
Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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I am planning on leaving sprint to for this devices. Any ideas on what a good carrier to switch too? Without worrying about going over your data limits
eep2378 said:
I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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If T-Mobile coverage is a good option for you Solevei and Simple Mobile are 2 very good alternatives. Solevei doesnt throttle till 4gb and SM states it doesnt throttle at all as long as you play "nice" with the network.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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There would be (hefty) early termination fees. A nice thing is that even if she has the Verizon version, it can handle GSM.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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Forewarning on those who want to jump to StraightTalk.
StraightTalk has occasional issues where you will lose Data connectivity and the only solution is to restart hoping it has returned. Happened a lot to my girlfriend and dropped them on September. Rumor has it AT&T is throttling mvno networks or some sort. I haven't heard them fixing the issue but
Reference:
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2012/08/persistent-data-problems-frustrating.html
There are links to various forums there with the same complaint. Try and see if the issue is fixed.
People think T-Mobile will be good and rosy until they actually make the switch to T-Mobile.
I say this... T-Mobile is a good carrier if they have good service where you live and you don't ever leave your area.
But, if you try doing ANY kind of traveling, good luck. I loved T-Mobile when I first got them. I didn't travel much. Then, I started traveling because I got a new job, and I was almost always roaming, had crap service, and tons of dropped calls.
That lasted about a week and then I paid the ETF and got the heck out of there.
No problems on Verizon. Love them, never a dropped call, LTE service almost everywhere I go... Just wish they would stop thinking they're making their users experiences better...THEY AREN'T!
Not sure where you travel, I have always had T-Mobile and travel all over. I cant think of a single time I didnt have good connectivity or service. Any good sized city probably already has "4G" and smaller ones have excellent coverage. I suppose if you find yourself outside of the city you may run into issues, I never have in 5+ years.
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Not sure where you travel, I have always had T-Mobile and travel all over. I cant think of a single time I didnt have good connectivity or service. Any good sized city probably already has "4G" and smaller ones have excellent coverage. I suppose if you find yourself outside of the city you may run into issues, I never have in 5+ years.
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T-mobile works fine all over Califoronia, from SD to the norcal. Verizon has the best network service but then again they cost almost double of what t-mobile users are paying. T-mobile users also have unlimited data and up to 5GB of 4G.
Also with simcard base phone, they can be re-used all over the wordl and have higher resell value. You can only sell a verizon phone to verrizon customer.
Good news if you're a Sprint customer. Expect big changes within the coming 1-2 years. If you follow the stock market then you may have just heard that Sprint was recently purchased by SoftBank. The FCC has officially approved the deal now. In another transitional move, Sprint has purchased the entirety of Clearwire.
The big news is that SoftBank will be giving Sprint $5 billion this year to expand its 4G LTE network to compete directly with Verizon and AT&t.
Add that to the fact that Sprint now owns the Clearwire technology and can acquire all of their towers and things are looking pretty positive for Sprint customers all in all. Obviously this stuff doesn't happen over night, but give it 1-2 years time and you will see Sprint leading the way.
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Good news if you're a Sprint customer. Expect big changes within the coming 1-2 years. If you follow the stock market then you may have just heard that Sprint was recently purchased by SoftBank. The FCC has officially approved the deal now. In another transitional move, Sprint has purchased the entirety of Clearwire.
The big news is that SoftBank will be giving Sprint $5 billion this year to expand its 4G LTE network to compete directly with Verizon and AT&t.
Add that to the fact that Sprint now owns the Clearwire technology and can acquire all of their towers and things are looking pretty positive for Sprint customers all in all. Obviously this stuff doesn't happen over night, but give it 1-2 years time and you will see Sprint leading the way.
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Yes... this is all true. But see THIS, which is the exact opposite of good news for Sprint customers
Joe0113 said:
Yes... this is all true. But see THIS, which is the exact opposite of good news for Sprint customers
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No worries.. That thread saying the plans are more expensive are incorrect.
If you have a SINGLE line with Sprint then you're more than likely on the 'Everything Data 450' plan, which costs $79.99 a month before tax. To stay at the same monthly price you should just switch to the 'Unlimited, My Way' plan which costs you $50 for unlimited talk and text, and $30 for the unlimited data. $50 + $30 = $80.. which is what the Everything Data 450 plan costs right now.
It's actually a BETTER option, because now you get unlimited calling. With the Everything Data 450 plan, you only get 450 anytime minutes. With the new plan at the SAME price you get unlimited EVERYTHING. Or, you can choose the 'My All-in' plan for $110 month and get unlimited data, text, and calling PLUS a 5GB hotspot add-on for your phone.
The price scheme is the same for 2 phones as well. The only people who are gonna end up paying MORE are the ones who have 3 or more lines on their accounts. But remember, not ALL phones will require unlimited data, and some phone may be basic phones. So the plan will be cheaper.
If you have multiple SMARTphones with Sprint and want unlimited data, here is a breakdown of what you'll be paying with the new plans:
2 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $149.99
2 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $150 per month but now you get unlimited calling
3 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $179.98
3 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $210 per month but now you get unlimited calling
4 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $209.97
4 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $260 per month but now you get unlimited calling
But like I said, everyone with only 1 or 2 lines of service will NOT notice price differences unless they switch to the "My All-in" plan, but that's totally up to them.
Hope this helps.
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No worries.. That thread saying the plans are more expensive are incorrect.
If you have a SINGLE line with Sprint then you're more than likely on the 'Everything Data 450' plan, which costs $79.99 a month before tax. To stay at the same monthly price you should just switch to the 'Unlimited, My Way' plan which costs you $50 for unlimited talk and text, and $30 for the unlimited data. $50 + $30 = $80.. which is what the Everything Data 450 plan costs right now.
It's actually a BETTER option, because now you get unlimited calling. With the Everything Data 450 plan, you only get 450 anytime minutes. With the new plan at the SAME price you get unlimited EVERYTHING. Or, you can choose the 'My All-in' plan for $110 month and get unlimited data, text, and calling PLUS a 5GB hotspot add-on for your phone.
The price scheme is the same for 2 phones as well. The only people who are gonna end up paying MORE are the ones who have 3 or more lines on their accounts. But remember, not ALL phones will require unlimited data, and some phone may be basic phones. So the plan will be cheaper.
If you have multiple SMARTphones with Sprint and want unlimited data, here is a breakdown of what you'll be paying with the new plans:
2 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $149.99
2 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $150 per month but now you get unlimited calling
3 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $179.98
3 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $210 per month but now you get unlimited calling
4 phones currently on the 'Everything Data Share 1500' plan = $209.97
4 phones on the new 'Everything, My Way' plan = $260 per month but now you get unlimited calling
But like I said, everyone with only 1 or 2 lines of service will NOT notice price differences unless they switch to the "My All-in" plan, but that's totally up to them.
Hope this helps.
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Well I'm on a family plan (me+mom+dad+sis+bro) all 5 of us have smartphones. Unlimited text+data. So the hike in price will be extremely ridiculous, my parents will probably and HOPEFULLY switch to Verizon!!
Joe0113 said:
Well I'm on a family plan (me+mom+dad+sis+bro) all 5 of us have smartphones. Unlimited text+data. So the hike in price will be extremely ridiculous, my parents will probably and HOPEFULLY switch to Verizon!!
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Believe me...the grass is not greener in the other side.
Verizon service may be the most reliable but they lock their devices down to the max. They're always the first to up their prices too. I had the Verizon S4 and it lacked some of the basic features on the S4 that other variants have, like blocking mode.
I was with Sprint like 5 years ago before I switched to ATT and then Verizon. Based on what my family members told me about Sprint being better than before, I switched back to Sprint yesterday. And to my amaze they have 4G here and they're 3G is not as bad as it was years ago. Heck, ATT still doesn't have 4G here where in live.
I'm gonna try and wait it through to see what big changes Sprint comes out the gate with.
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How do you keep getting out of your contract so freely.....or are you paying every time?
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Believe me...the grass is not greener in the other side.
Verizon service may be the most reliable but they lock their devices down to the max. They're always the first to up their prices too. I had the Verizon S4 and it lacked some of the basic features on the S4 that other variants have, like blocking mode.
I was with Sprint like 5 years ago before I switched to ATT and then Verizon. Based on what my family members told me about Sprint being better than before, I switched back to Sprint yesterday. And to my amaze they have 4G here and they're 3G is not as bad as it was years ago. Heck, ATT still doesn't have 4G here where in live.
I'm gonna try and wait it through to see what big changes Sprint comes out the gate with.
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Snazarian said:
How do you keep getting out of your contract so freely.....or are you paying every time?
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Well for my kids lines, I normally buy their phones off Craigslist, so I don't have a etf on their lines. As far as my wife and my lines, I pay the etf... But I cancel my line first then my wife's line in the next billing cycle. That way both etf's don't end up on the same bill.
Then I resale the phones my wife and I was using and recoup some of what I have to pay on the etf.
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I love my sprint service after network vision. The data speeds are great. The question is how is sprint going to fix the large roaming areas. I hope softbank can fund sprint to fix this. Look at floridas map.
The ONLY thing that concerns me is the throttling of data speeds. They have long touted not throttling. And now they are. I've been telling everyone thatnsoftbank was a very bad idea. It was obvious but people just seen the couple billion to be spent on LTE. Problem is, Sprint is no longer Sprint. We are Softbank and Softbank ONLY. Don't expect anything to be how it was. All new business strategy and leadership. Verizon prices with slow speeds and far less coverage.
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Actually id go so far as to say that a single line plan for myself would cost a good bit more with the new plans. i have a 25% discount that gets applied to my first line, with the new plan that discount is dropped to first line for mins etc then i have to pay the full amount on data.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...y-all-in-plans-available-beginning-july-12th/
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The ONLY thing that concerns me is the throttling of data speeds. They have long touted not throttling. And now they are. I've been telling everyone thatnsoftbank was a very bad idea. It was obvious but people just seen the couple billion to be spent on LTE. Problem is, Sprint is no longer Sprint. We are Softbank and Softbank ONLY. Don't expect anything to be how it was. All new business strategy and leadership. Verizon prices with slow speeds and far less coverage.
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Good points. And even the LTE thing I take with a huge grain of salt. Sprint been promising LTE will be almost everywhere in 1-2 years for years now. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Good points. And even the LTE thing I take with a huge grain of salt. Sprint been promising LTE will be almost everywhere in 1-2 years for years now. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Larger markets will get LTE first. We only just NOW are getting enhanced 3G where I live. But, realistically, thanks to the SoftBank deal I predict most markets will have LTE within the next 1 1/2 years. It's definitely not an overnight switch.
Remember the EDGE network, a.k.a. 2G? Remember how long it took for everyone to get 3G when you first heard about it?
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Larger markets will get LTE first. We only just NOW are getting enhanced 3G where I live. But, realistically, thanks to the SoftBank deal I predict most markets will have LTE within the next 1 1/2 years. It's definitely not an overnight switch.
Remember the EDGE network, a.k.a. 2G? Remember how long it took for everyone to get 3G when you first heard about it?
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This is a false statement if you are talking about Sprints LTE deployment. They are not upgrading based on population. And they aren't doing upgrades city to city. They are upgrading whole markets at the same time.
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Joe0113 said:
Well I'm on a family plan (me+mom+dad+sis+bro) all 5 of us have smartphones. Unlimited text+data. So the hike in price will be extremely ridiculous, my parents will probably and HOPEFULLY switch to Verizon!!
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What you need to understand is the $10 per line you pay for premium data. In the new plan, it's built in. That drops you 50 right there. These new plans are actually cheaper.
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This is a false statement if you are talking about Sprints LTE deployment. They are not upgrading based on population. And they aren't doing upgrades city to city. They are upgrading whole markets at the same time.
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Ok, not sure where you got that information from.
The LTE roll will eventually be nationwide, but you can't expect the whole nation to make the switch overnight. LARGER markets will get LTE first which makes sense. Who do you expect to have LTE first... New York City, or some little town in northern Washington?
The switch will take place piece by piece and step by step with priority going to markets with a higher demand for 4G LTE. Like I said in my previous post, I expect 90% of all markets to have LTE within the next 1 1/2 years.
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Ok, not sure where you got that information from.
The LTE roll will eventually be nationwide, but you can't expect the whole nation to make the switch overnight. LARGER markets will get LTE first which makes sense. Who do you expect to have LTE first... New York City, or some little town in northern Washington?
The switch will take place piece by piece and step by step with priority going to markets with a higher demand for 4G LTE. Like I said in my previous post, I expect 90% of all markets to have LTE within the next 1 1/2 years.
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I hope so, 2 years ago.... a lady from Sprint swore to my bf that we would have 4g at the end of the year........nope nothing....I hardly even get 3g (in some locations)
I don't care what anyone says and no one will convince me otherwise. Sprint's network upgrade vision has been/is terrible. They should of been doing LTE like others instead of wasting time/money on WiMax. T-Mobile has done in a year what Sprint should have been able to do years ago. I've been with Sprint for a while and am really getting fed up with it all. I'm lucky to have LTE (about 50%) where I live but we never got WiMax and the 3G speeds suck and always have. The new pricing better not mess with my corporate rates or I'm jumping ship.
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Ok, not sure where you got that information from.
The LTE roll will eventually be nationwide, but you can't expect the whole nation to make the switch overnight. LARGER markets will get LTE first which makes sense. Who do you expect to have LTE first... New York City, or some little town in northern Washington?
The switch will take place piece by piece and step by step with priority going to markets with a higher demand for 4G LTE. Like I said in my previous post, I expect 90% of all markets to have LTE within the next 1 1/2 years.
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Let's just say I know people. They are not doing upgrades based on population. New York and LA would have been the first places to get LTE if that was the case. Not to mention there is different LTE providers per region of the country. Such as Alcatel/Lucent, Samsung, Ericsson. It is by whole markets not cities. Example the whole Upper Central Valley of California is a market. Which goes from Oregon to Stockton to Reno and beyond. Sacramento will be upgraded last because it is harder to do work in a major city and get building permit approval etc. So smaller suburbs such as Rocklin and Roseville already have LTE going and the city of Sacramento has nothing.
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Let's just say I know people. They are not doing upgrades based on population. New York and LA would have been the first places to get LTE if that was the case. Not to mention there is different LTE providers per region of the country. Such as Alcatel/Lucent, Samsung, Ericsson. It is by whole markets not cities. Example the whole Upper Central Valley of California is a market. Which goes from Oregon to Stockton to Reno and beyond. Sacramento will be upgraded last because it is harder to do work in a major city and get building permit approval etc. So smaller suburbs such as Rocklin and Roseville already have LTE going and the city of Sacramento has nothing.
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This, population had nothing to do with Network Vision deployment.
Check here for everything Sprint LTE related:
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I just wanted to put a feeler out there. Hopefully those who may have switched from Verizon might chime in and give me some helpful advice.
I've been with Verizon since the GS3 came out and I've had it with that company. They have excellent service, and I have signal just about anywhere I go, but there are a lot of things about them that bother me, and I'm ready to jump ship. This all started when I had a Note 4 in hand at the VZW store the other day, and after speaking to the ASSociate there, I'm ready to leave. I'm on the EDGE plan (kinda like JUMP), and was an early adopter to that, so I had the 50% pay off to get a new phone after 11 mo. First thing I don't like is the cost. With a 21% discount, I was paying $121/mo for the Note 3 with 5GB data, 450min, and 1000 text messages (I never used up the minutes or texts). I didn't think that was too outrageous since I was paying off that N3 every month, and I was OK with it because I'm a complete nerd and like to have a new phone every year. However, they now want you to pay off 75% of the phone over 18 months. What is that bs? If I'm paying 75% of an $800 phone, I might as well just sell it on eBay. Another issue is the bootloader, of course. Verizon locks down their phones hardcore. Even rooting them is a chore on VZW, and I'm tired of it. I'm not even a huge "power-user". I just like to have my Titanium Backup and freedom of controlling my system apps. T-Mobile obviously doesn't have any of these issues, but everyone I talk to says the service isn't that great, especially in rural areas. I take a lot of trips to remote locations, and fear that I will not have signal at any of them. For a person who always has their phone on them and is an extension of themselves, this could be a deal-breaker.
Any advice? I'm seriously considering it, and TMo is sending me an iPhone 5s to test this week, but I'm still afraid of the commitment.
I just traded in my Verizon Note 3 and switched to tmobile. I am loving it so far. I actually get better reception that Verizon here in my part of Pittsburgh. I recently upgraded to the unlimited 4g plan and decided I am going to ditch Comcast too. I will get a Chromecast and/or MHL cable to hook my note up to my tv and occasionally for youtube ans netflix, wifi Hotspot when I am using the computer.
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i made the switch from verizon to t-mobile on friday. i'm giving up verizon's unlimited data plan because they won't let me upgrade unless i pay full price or give up the unlimited. i chose to go with t-mobile's $80 unlimited everything plan w/ 5gb of hotspot. my situation is a little different than yours, though. i was already a t-mobile customer (back when they were voicestream until 2010), so i already know what i'm getting myself into in terms of quality (plus, my parents, brother, and sister-in-law are on t-mobile). i live in chicago also, so that makes a difference. i've never had an issue with t-mobile's service. the only reason i had originally switched the first time is because when the smartphone race began, t-mobile had some of the worst selections.
again, i live in chicago, so your results might vary, but i did a ookla speedtest on my brother's note 4 (on t-mobile) and my galaxy s4 (on verizon) and his numbers beat my numbers consistently (which genuinely surprised me).
Do the T-mobile test drive first available here http://explore.t-mobile.com/test-drive-free-trial?cmpid=WTR_PB_N62kxn2C&002=2202007&004=13691619257&005=47088372328&006=45480286217&007=Search&008=&025=c&026=&gclid=Cj0KEQjwt7KiBRD9lOePpe_BhrgBEiQAHaS_116jcCU3lPFxN-073akQkOmUEMwL_jAlA8fhsqPxLb4aAuDY8P8HAQ. They will send you a phone to try out for a week. I wanted to switch, but found out that they actually have no service at my home and half of the areas on my way to work, even though on their website it says there is full 2g service in all these places. Their coverage map is extremely misleading. Just read all the customer dissatisfaction with coverage via this link. http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/content?filterID=contentstatus%5Bpublished%5D~objecttype~objecttype%5Bthread%5D
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I just wanted to put a feeler out there. Hopefully those who may have switched from Verizon might chime in and give me some helpful advice.
I've been with Verizon since the GS3 came out and I've had it with that company. They have excellent service, and I have signal just about anywhere I go, but there are a lot of things about them that bother me, and I'm ready to jump ship. This all started when I had a Note 4 in hand at the VZW store the other day, and after speaking to the ASSociate there, I'm ready to leave. I'm on the EDGE plan (kinda like JUMP), and was an early adopter to that, so I had the 50% pay off to get a new phone after 11 mo. First thing I don't like is the cost. With a 21% discount, I was paying $121/mo for the Note 3 with 5GB data, 450min, and 1000 text messages (I never used up the minutes or texts). I didn't think that was too outrageous since I was paying off that N3 every month, and I was OK with it because I'm a complete nerd and like to have a new phone every year. However, they now want you to pay off 75% of the phone over 18 months. What is that bs? If I'm paying 75% of an $800 phone, I might as well just sell it on eBay. Another issue is the bootloader, of course. Verizon locks down their phones hardcore. Even rooting them is a chore on VZW, and I'm tired of it. I'm not even a huge "power-user". I just like to have my Titanium Backup and freedom of controlling my system apps. T-Mobile obviously doesn't have any of these issues, but everyone I talk to says the service isn't that great, especially in rural areas. I take a lot of trips to remote locations, and fear that I will not have signal at any of them. For a person who always has their phone on them and is an extension of themselves, this could be a deal-breaker.
Any advice? I'm seriously considering it, and TMo is sending me an iPhone 5s to test this week, but I'm still afraid of the commitment.
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I made the switch yesterday . Screw Verizon I had the note 3 and was out of contract . So I just switched over got the note 4 and so far so good . I stay in Caldwell Idaho .
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Do the T-mobile test drive first available here http://explore.t-mobile.com/test-drive-free-trial?cmpid=WTR_PB_N62kxn2C&002=2202007&004=13691619257&005=47088372328&006=45480286217&007=Search&008=&025=c&026=&gclid=Cj0KEQjwt7KiBRD9lOePpe_BhrgBEiQAHaS_116jcCU3lPFxN-073akQkOmUEMwL_jAlA8fhsqPxLb4aAuDY8P8HAQ. They will send you a phone to try out for a week. I wanted to switch, but found out that they actually have no service at my home and half of the areas on my way to work, even though on their website it says there is full 2g service in all these places. Their coverage map is extremely misleading. Just read all the customer dissatisfaction with coverage via this link. http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/content?filterID=contentstatus%5Bpublished%5D~objecttype~objecttype%5Bthread%5D
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I think my anger with Verizon caused me to leave that part out of my long post, lol. I did that, and they're sending me an iPhone 5s to test, which will be here on Tuesday. I'm excited to try it out, but the consensus around my office with T-Mobile customers is that it's not very good service. Time will tell, I guess.
How is T-Mobile's customer service? I was a T-Mo customer about 10 years ago and it was excellent back then.
JUST DO IT. VERIZON SUCKS. COMPLETELY OVER RATES THEM SELVES.
I've had better coverage data speeds and call quality in the last week with my note 4 then the last 8 years with Verizon. Not to mention Tmobiles not a bunch of ****ing blood suckers.
I switched from att to tmobile two weeks. I'm in northern new jersey and I'm not looking back. I originally got the note 3 but decided I wanted to make sure I had the latest phone so I got the note 4 before the return period was up. I ported over two lines and a tablet. I'm saving about $50 per month on tmobile. The service has been great so far. The speeds have been excellent and coverage at my job and house is five bars. The fact that their phones have unlocked bootloaders is of course a plus. I'd say if coverage is good then make the switch.
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Well these are interesting responses.
As far as my work goes, nothing seems to penetrate that building except AT&T, which would be nice, but they have the same issues that Verizon has. It's interesting, because I thought TMo piggy backed off of AT&T towers for roaming...
Depends on the service in your area. I live in NYC so I've notice hardly any difference in service and faster speeds with T-mobile. However if you travel a lot I would say Verizon is better because that map does not lie, you really do have service everywhere with them.
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I switched from att to tmobile two weeks. I'm in northern new jersey and I'm not looking back. I originally got the note 3 but decided I wanted to make sure I had the latest phone so I got the note 4 before the return period was up. I ported over two lines and a tablet. I'm saving about $50 per month on tmobile. The service has been great so far. The speeds have been excellent and coverage at my job and house is five bars. The fact that their phones have unlocked bootloaders is of course a plus. I'd say if coverage is good then make the switch.
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Ditto. I switched from Verizon this past Thursday and not looking back. I love the freedom with bootloaders. I was with TMob 8 years ago and the service to be honest was horrible. But now TMob has greatly improved. I haven't dropped calls and data speeds are fast.
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Well these are interesting responses.
As far as my work goes, nothing seems to penetrate that building except AT&T, which would be nice, but they have the same issues that Verizon has. It's interesting, because I thought TMo piggy backed off of AT&T towers for roaming...
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As far as penetrating buildings goes, earlier this year tmobile just bought the rights to new frequencies that have a lower wave length and will penetrate buildings considerably... they haven't made the activation on this frequency everywhere yet, but the Note 4 is one of the first phones(if not the first?) to have the ability to receive this frequency built in, so as soon as it goes live in your given area, you'll get the benefits! This is a hardware thing too, so it's not like they can just update other phones n they'll have it too, only new phones built to receive it
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As far as penetrating buildings goes, earlier this year tmobile just bought the rights to new frequencies that have a lower wave length and will penetrate buildings considerably... they haven't made the activation on this frequency everywhere yet, but the Note 4 is one of the first phones(if not the first?) to have the ability to receive this frequency built in, so as soon as it goes live in your given area, you'll get the benefits! This is a hardware thing too, so it's not like they can just update other phones n they'll have it too, only new phones built to receive it
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That's interesting. I didn't know that. Did they give an eta when they expect to turn on those frequencies?
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As far as penetrating buildings goes, earlier this year tmobile just bought the rights to new frequencies that have a lower wave length and will penetrate buildings considerably... they haven't made the activation on this frequency everywhere yet, but the Note 4 is one of the first phones(if not the first?) to have the ability to receive this frequency built in, so as soon as it goes live in your given area, you'll get the benefits! This is a hardware thing too, so it's not like they can just update other phones n they'll have it too, only new phones built to receive it
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Are you referring to the 700MHz spectrum they're rolling out? Link here: https://sites.google.com/site/cellularbinder/t-mobile-700a-spectrum
If that's the case, I'm in Southwest Michigan, and it looks like they need to clear up some stuff before that happens in my area (if I'm reading that correctly)?
EDIT: Also, is not the 700MHz for LTE band 12 only? I would love to have LTE inside of work, but less necessary than just a regular GSM phone signal.
Verizon sucks...PERIOD
the ONLY reason to even consider them is if you need coverage in the most obscure areas of the US; if not, kick those scumbags to the curb..
If you have decent coverage in your area, then no one can beat T-mobile for coverage, price, customer service, and everything else.
Do the test drive, go to all the areas you are concerned about, and if you get coverage, then switch
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Verizon sucks...PERIOD
the ONLY reason to even consider them is if you need coverage in the most obscure areas of the US; if not, kick those scumbags to the curb..
If you have decent coverage in your area, then no one can beat T-mobile for coverage, price, customer service, and everything else.
Do the test drive, go to all the areas you are concerned about, and if you get coverage, then switch
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My fiancee and I are both geocachers and use an app to post our finds immediately, so we do actually need coverage in obscure areas. We often have trouble even with Verizon, but that trouble is 1-2 bars of 3G. I'm hoping that doesn't translate into zero signal with T-Mobile. You are right, though. The plan is to do the test drive and see how it goes. With an unlocked bootloader and an eventual SIM unlock, I could always switch to AT&T if it ends up not working out very well. I have none of those freedoms with Verizon.
yeah, as much as I dislike "the deathstar", I hate verizon more, so given the choice of 2 evils, ATT would be your way out..
but, here again, go nuts on the 7 day tmobile test drive and see how good/bad they are in your area..
I use AT&T go phone prepaid with my tmo gn4. $60mo unl talk and text and 3gb LTE. I can add additional lte at $10 per gb. Just have to pay full price for my devices. I LOVE my set up. I travel, so tmo isn't an option for me. Hope you find a set up. Also, vz just released their prepaid plan mostly the same at $65mo with LTE service, and they're getting the gn4 developer edition with bootloader unlocked. Again, just have to pay full price.
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I have both so I know. I'd go with TM any day. Don't think about it. Just do it. Depending on your usage, if you don't talk much, the $30 pre paid plan is unbeatable. 5gb of data.
Well I've had this iPhone for an hour now. Hate the phone, but one thing I've seen already is the LTE speed is DOUBLE what I get from Verizon. It gets around 40mbps down and 10mbps up in my house, which is ridiculous. I can't even get that on Verizon outside with full bars.
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Hey everyone, I am looking for some opinions here. I live in Atlanta, GA and have just switched to Verizon from T-Mobile. Originally, I purchased iPhone 6+ and am now using the Nexus 6. I still am debating which I will use day to day, but, I have had nothing but issues with Verizon.
Without too much detail... rep that helped us migrate 3 business lines screwed up. As a result we had a lot of calls with care and managers and ended up getting 30gb of shared web for price of 10gb as well as close to $400 worth of credits atop of $450 in 2 cycles for switching. Great deal overall and helps a ton to cover device costs!
I had no issues with T-Mobile but my business partner is going to Dallas more where he had spotty coverage. On Verizon, he was great there but here... we have issues. From voice quality being much worse than Tmobile (even on VOLTE) to slower data speeds to 3G where we have LTE on T-Mobile. Now, with Nexus 6 I at least will get HSPA while on call with T-Mobile, compared to 0 data on verizon. There are places I get nearly 80mbps on Verizon, but it is cancelled out by overall mediocre performance.
I completely understand that Verizon has amazing coverage and better in-building penetration. However, Tmobile has made huge strides to become a very good data network in many metro areas. While calculating costs, after all credits, we would come out pretty even going back and won't save too much money.
So, given all that, is it worth staying on Verizon? Am I simply seeing greener grass on the other side? I am also worried that with Verizon it will be ages before nexus 6 will get VOLTE and Voice + Data.
Now, I am researching a lot about spectrum and what each carrier is deploying and for some reason T-Mobile just seems to be better when it comes to LTE tech, newly acquired spectrum and overall voice + data.
I was a Verizon customer for 11 years and switched to T-Mobile about 1 and half years ago. Couldn't be happier. Wished there was an easy answer gl with your decision
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I was a Verizon customer for 11 years and switched to T-Mobile about 1 and half years ago. Couldn't be happier. Wished there was an easy answer gl with your decision
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Thanks! Yea, indeed. From one angle I am thinking that the extra coverage is worth it, specially considering how so many others pay way more than what my plan costs. From another, I am seeing such inconsistent service and decreased voice quality makes it hard to want to stay on Verizon. I do like seeing 75mpbs sometimes though .
I rarely had service issues on T-Mobile everywhere I went around the city, now, it is a daily routine on Verizon.
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Thanks! Yea, indeed. From one angle I am thinking that the extra coverage is worth it, specially considering how so many others pay way more than what my plan costs. From another, I am seeing such inconsistent service and decreased voice quality makes it hard to want to stay on Verizon. I do like seeing 75mpbs sometimes though .
I rarely had service issues on T-Mobile everywhere I went around the city, now, it is a daily routine on Verizon.
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Sounds like you've somewhat made your decision then
75mbps or 25mbps it doesn't matter to me but to some it might (I get 50mbps down and 25 up). Love HD voice it's crystal. What I love most though? That I am no longer with the big red corp and am with the most innovative and exciting carrier of the last 2 years
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Sounds like you've somewhat made your decision then
75mbps or 25mbps it doesn't matter to me but to some it might (I get 50mbps down and 25 up). Love HD voice it's crystal. What I love most though? That I am no longer with the big red corp and am with the most innovative and exciting carrier of the last 2 years
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Haha i hear ya. To me, anything over 5mbps is good as on mobile it all loads instant and videos buffer fast. So im not crazy in thinking that tmobile has an overall more advanced network?
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Haha i hear ya. To me, anything over 5mbps is good as on mobile it all loads instant and videos buffer fast. So im not crazy in thinking that tmobile has an overall more advanced network?
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Good question I really don't know. I don't think you're crazy for thinking that. Tmo has turned the carrier world upside down and I believe all subscribers of all carriers can thank tmo for their lower prices and higher GB data plans.
I had to drop vzw because we moved 1 1/2 yrs ago to suburb of Atlanta and it's a vzw dead spot. No prob with tmo though. Blessing in disguise
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Good question I really don't know. I don't think you're crazy for thinking that. Tmo has turned the carrier world upside down and I believe all subscribers of all carriers can thank tmo for their lower prices and higher GB data plans.
I had to drop vzw because we moved 1 1/2 yrs ago to suburb of Atlanta and it's a vzw dead spot. No prob with tmo though. Blessing in disguise
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So you pretty much live by me sounds like. Interesting, that just means that it may not just be me then. At first I thought it was either my phone or the sim, verizon replaced both though. It seems like service always bounced between 2 and 4 bars of LTE at my house which creates random results. At times I could be getting 2mbps down while another verizon phone is getting 50, and vice versa. Speed isn't eveytbing, but there is no consistency and added with bad voice quality even on volte... A week ago I drove out towards Lawrenceville to help a friend look for a car and I kept dropping to 3G or having data so bad that even mobile sites would not load. My gf has T-Mobile and I grabbed her phone to test, she was literally getting 40 Mbps to my 1!
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So you pretty much live by me sounds like. Interesting, that just means that it may not just be me then. At first I thought it was either my phone or the sim, verizon replaced both though. It seems like service always bounced between 2 and 4 bars of LTE at my house which creates random results. At times I could be getting 2mbps down while another verizon phone is getting 50, and vice versa. Speed isn't eveytbing, but there is no consistency and added with bad voice quality even on volte... A week ago I drove out towards Lawrenceville to help a friend look for a car and I kept dropping to 3G or having data so bad that even mobile sites would not load. My gf has T-Mobile and I grabbed her phone to test, she was literally getting 40 Mbps to my 1!
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Haha! I live in mableton/Smyrna area. I have great coverage on tmo where ever I go in and around Atlanta. Especially now with the moto N6 its radios rock. 3g on vzw is like edge on tmo. They're both painful. I rarely if ever have seen edge in and around Atlanta on tmo (only one spot I know of) but often saw 3g on vzw. Tmos hspa/umts is super fast
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Haha! I live in mableton/Smyrna area. I have great coverage on tmo where ever I go in and around Atlanta. Especially now with the moto N6 its radios rock. 3g on vzw is like edge on tmo. They're both painful. I rarely if ever have seen edge in and around Atlanta on tmo (only one spot I know of) but often saw 3g on vzw. Tmos hspa/umts is super fast
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How is voice on n6? I popped Tmobile sim in it and it wasn't very good when I tried. I've read that volte and hd voice won't come to n6 on Tmobile till early 2015? Yea, I always told people about how good hspa on Tmobile was lol. It killed LTE on most carriers originally. Other than having a little higher ping.
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How is voice on n6? I popped Tmobile sim in it and it wasn't very good when I tried. I've read that volte and hd voice won't come to n6 on Tmobile till early 2015? Yea, I always told people about how good hspa on Tmobile was lol. It killed LTE on most carriers originally. Other than having a little higher ping.
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Already has HD voice spoke with it today. Volte will be a while yeah. I think voice quality is great, HD and non-hd
If anyone else has any input, greatly appreciated. I downloaded root metrics app and looking at places I go T-Mobile seems to have much stronger data than verizon. Although, voice coverage seems a tab better on verizon.
if you live out in the country, or spend lots of time out there, then tmobile is not for you. i love tmobile, and they have wonderful data speed where i live(70mbps download/30mbps upload. southern brooklyn), but out in the country, they arent so good. in cities, they are wonderful.
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if you live out in the country, or spend lots of time out there, then tmobile is not for you. i love tmobile, and they have wonderful data speed where i live(70mbps download/30mbps upload. southern brooklyn), but out in the country, they arent so good. in cities, they are wonderful.
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Thanks for your input!