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Is there a way or tweak to get the camera to record at VGA or WVGA @ 30fps? I have a 14 month old daughter and im constantly taking pics of her for the familly ect and noticed that when recording video the framerate is very laggy or slow motion like. The iphone 3gs records great video quality and the N1 has better specs so id assume higher frame rate on record is possible with the N1 also.
Any thoughts anyone?
Thx Guys!
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
hypersonicx said:
People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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i don't think he was in a bs kinda tone. hard to tell on forums
you'll thank yourself later for using a higher quality camera (dedicated camera) of any kind for videos one day. proud parent here, know whatcha mean about wanting to capture the cool 'new' moments.
now then, as far as recording, i'll bet there are settings you can change for it someday. right now the video quality is pretty darn good. just dumped a couple of videos from mine today. frame rate is quite good, picture clarity good, fps decent.
IF YOU FIND an app or way to up the settings, PLEASE update this thread in your original post.
Yeah, Im not trying to come off negative to anyone. I have a decent standalone camera that can take great pics and video a 10mpiexel cam with ful vga record. With phones tho its so MUCH MUCH MUCH more conveient to beable to snap a picture and have that picture allready able to send as MMS / Email / Up Load to facebook ect...
With the standalone camera I have to take mem card out - load to card reader - copy pics to mem card on my nexus - ect...
Just too many steps. When I had an iphone 3gs for a lmited time I was amazed at the video recording quality from a cell phone.
Now with the nexus with specs better then iphone I dont see why we cant get full 30fps at WVGA or VGA res. With 1ghz CPU and 5mpxl that should be possible right out the box. Seems like its definetly possible and im all for the ability to carry less devices.
it would be great if we could get 30 fps on the nexus. my under powered n97 does 30 fps and its video quality is a step up from my nexus for sure. kinda disappoints me that the video quality isn't just as good as my previous phones.
the moto droid (with lower specs) can do 30fps with some hacking... im sure its some setting in the rom that we can change
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/19647-increase-camera-video-quality.html
HTC Desire with similar hardware does 30fps.
I don't know if it's HW or SW limitation, though. Did anyone try to record video on Desire ROM and can verify the actual fps?
Well, the Desire ROM allows for WGVA recording. I do not know about all the fps stuff, but I do know that I am recording in WGVA.
You should be able to by modifying the camera driver in the kernel and the build.prop. I'll look into this when I have the time, but I found the line that should control frame rate. A commit says that not all cameras are stable at 30fps, but how's that ever stopped us?
Hey guys, been watching a few videos on the Nexus 4 now and one thing that has really impressed me so far is the video recording, and more specifically the microphone when recording.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IZIG-YnLhE
Just thought I'd shove this video here, im sure some of you have seen it already but is it just me or is the microphone really clear?
Im currently using the iPhone 4s and the microphone isn't as good as this. The video is a little shaky but I'm sure if mounted on a tri-pod (with an adapter of course) it should work fine.
Edit, then again, this video says otherwise.. http://youtu.be/M4CbYXKxj6I
The microphone is average, but the frame rate overwhelms it on the negative side.
Can anyone mod a 30fps video or is the problem of 22fps , in the sensor itself ?
The sensor IS capable of 30fps (even more). Software isn't taking full advantage of the sensor. Maybe on a more recent build the problem is already fixed, but no one on more recent builds posted an unedited video
Wat sensor does it have?
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I take my Atrix 2 as a benchmark, and since it's a phone from end-2011, for progress' sake, the N4 should beat it hands down.
Sound-wise, the Atrix 2 does near camcorder-quality and beats the N4 by a long shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ii2Q7FJ5bA
Image-wise, the N4 looks good. Remember that youtube videos are often compressed badly and stutter on their own. It is sharp and there's plenty of details, judging from the op's second link, but the framerate is poor. My Atrix2's recording frame rate is always 30 fps, and image quality is just a tad worse.
So may I ask google, is it that difficult to do, with top-notch hardware, what motorola did 1 year ago with now-outdated chips?
Doesn't youtube cap videos at 30fps?
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Doesn't youtube cap videos at 30fps?
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Nope, It reinterprets higher framerates into 30frames, unless the slowmotion effect is going to be employed, in which case it keeps the extra frames. What looks to be the problem is the recording refresh rate. The output of the codec file is always going to be a standard (24/30 in NTSC, 25 in PAL), whether or not there are actual frames there, is determined by the refresh rate.
My point is that youtube isn't going to reinterpret the video and change the framerate.
What is wrong with the FPS?
This phone just gets worse :\
Im more interested in the mic. In some videos its decent, others its terrible?
The video looks fine, stop complaining. Do I have to go on about the price like everyone does?
This is going to be a hard week, I have to use an iPhone, sold my SGS2 ):
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The video looks fine, stop complaining. Do I have to go on about the price like everyone does?
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No, it doesn't.
You can go on about the price, but you'll still be wrong, since other devices at a lot of pricing ranges are able to maintain 30fps video recording.
And since not everyone is able to buy from the Google Market (there's a thing called "rest of the world"), and price outside is REALLY higher, you'll be double wrong.
As said a lot around, seems to be a software bug, making the camera module basically "take a lot of photos" instead of "making a video". The camera itself IS able to do [email protected] and [email protected] The S4 processor and 2GB of RAM are more than capable of dealing with the support necessary.
Google/LG are likely to NOT fix it, but I hope someday the community here manages to.
Is it recorded in 1080p? If so I think it will look smooth in 720p.
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Google/LG are likely to NOT fix it, but I hope someday the community here manages to.
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Bet you lots of money that it's fixed on launch day - producing 30FPS videos like a champ. NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A FINAL VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE. And judging by the performance increase within the last few days on at least one N4 device, I'm going take an educated guess and say that Google are releasing software updates once every 2 or 3 days before the launch and my honest opinion is that Google are impairing things on purpose so that no one from the company runs off with a device and chucks it on eBay for quad profit.
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Bet you lots of money that it's fixed on launch day - producing 30FPS videos like a champ. NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A FINAL VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE. And judging by the performance increase within the last few days on at least one N4 device, I'm going take an educated guess and say that Google are releasing software updates once every 2 or 3 days before the launch (...)
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Well, I'm putting a few chips here. I sincerely hope you win, but I think the chances are abysmal that they care about such "secondary" stuff. They fixed the S4, I saw that benchmark. But no one commented about a camera fix.
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(...)and my honest opinion is that Google are impairing things on purpose so that no one from the company runs off with a device and chucks it on eBay for quad profit.
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Now that was just tinfoilhatted.
Rear facing camera 1080p:
For mobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwrt2rvFiKo
For HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwrt2rvFiKo&hd=1
Front facing camera 720p:
For mobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HwgMlA5wZU
For HD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HwgMlA5wZU&hd=1
Enjoy
Still really choppy ... dam .
frame rate sucks i've read on latest Engadget review its only rec with 22 fps @9 mbps
Could be Soft related? The Front facing camera records waaaaaay better
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frame rate sucks i've read on latest Engadget review its only rec with 22 fps @9 mbps
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Engadget latest review is still the same old crap, did you even look at the date of the article.
Anandtech review done today says that after the OTA it has 30FPS @ 12mbps though he hasn't uploaded the latest samples, he passively mentions this in the video section, so gotta wait for an update to his post.
You can grab the original videos from the Nexus 4 from our servers here. I pinged Google about this when I first saw it and as I write this the final 4.2 OTA has been pushed out to the Nexus 4 which appears to fix this encode quality issue. I’m going to hold off on saying much more until I get the chance to go re-shoot video at the test location, but this does appear fixed based on a video I recorded in my office quickly.
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These don’t have any issues with encode (no dropped frames) and nail the 12.0 Mbps 30 FPS target, unsurprisingly.
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Engadget latest review is still the same old crap, did you even look at the date of the article.
Anandtech review done today says that after the OTA it has 30FPS @ 12mbps though he hasn't uploaded the latest samples, he passively mentions this in the video section, so gotta wait for an update to his post.
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This was said about time lapse. The normal video is still same crap, as is battery life and as is performance and thermal issues...
you can download original video files from the link in youtube video.
they are still 9mbps @ 22FPS
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This was said about time lapse. The normal video is still same crap, as is battery life and as is performance and thermal issues...
you can download original video files from the link in youtube video.
they are still 9mbps @ 22FPS
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They aren't the new ones bro. Look at what the said at the quote
Question guys - to enable you to slow certain scenes in a video you need to select the slow motion video scene...fair enough.
Should this in turn reduce the quality of the video?
I could be wrong, but before I went to a custom ROM, I am fairly sure the video quality remained the same as normal. Now as soon as I record in slow motion, it reduces the quality.
bleary said:
Question guys - to enable you to slow certain scenes in a video you need to select the slow motion video scene...fair enough.
Should this in turn reduce the quality of the video?
I could be wrong, but before I went to a custom ROM, I am fairly sure the video quality remained the same as normal. Now as soon as I record in slow motion, it reduces the quality.
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hello there
yes it will reduce the quality ...
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I noticed that too with mine. Horrible isn't it? You also get reduced quality with 60fps. You get verticals lines. I gave up and stuck to 30fps.
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I noticed that too with mine. Horrible isn't it? You also get reduced quality with 60fps. You get verticals lines. I gave up and stuck to 30fps.
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I also have this problem vertical line appear in indoor environment. However, customer service told me this will be fix in next update.
Slow Motion = Low Resolution
I saw that HTC video doing a slow motion video of a man doing fire/flame stunt. Actually I was amazed and got excited that I wanted to try that Slow motion on my own with something else like a sprinkler maybe.
So I found one at a park and as soon as I started shooting the video (slow motion video under video settings) WTH!!!! The resolution dropped to something like 768x432 and its a bite pixellated, not true HD (1080p) which I thought I'd expect just like from the HTC video... Yes you can trim/edit the video that's cool but I was hoping for 1080p HD quality
I hoped HTC would come with an update that can maximize its camera features up to 1080p resolution. oh well..
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I saw that HTC video doing a slow motion video of a man doing fire/flame stunt. Actually I was amazed and got excited that I wanted to try that Slow motion on my own with something else like a sprinkler maybe.
So I found one at a park and as soon as I started shooting the video (slow motion video under video settings) WTH!!!! The resolution dropped to something like 768x432 and its a bite pixellated, not true HD (1080p) which I thought I'd expect just like from the HTC video... Yes you can trim/edit the video that's cool but I was hoping for 1080p HD quality
I hoped HTC would come with an update that can maximize its camera features up to 1080p resolution. oh well..
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Well I guess is impossible because the Snapdragon 600 doesn't support the record of 1080p videos at 120fps :\
I'm on stock 4.2.2 and I've recorded this slow motion clip a week ago (don't forget to turn on HD when viewing it). The quality seems fine to me.
Yeah. The quality is awfull. The slow motion video from the the device with the man in the night eith fire from his mouth is years ahead bettrr than the ones we can record... But why HTC ?!
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some info on this please?
hello guys. i'm sorry for this little derailing question but it was the only thread i found:
i'm currently digging into slo-mo available in latest phones.
i just saw some HTC ONE samples and i was very disappointed from the low resolution.
i was particularly impressed with the new Iphone 5S 120 FPS real 720P feature. it really looks 720 and not upscaled like the fake 720p NOTE 3 slo-mo. however i cannot use iphone anymore due to the small screen.
so from this thread i gather the faster frame limitation is by the processor itself? (snapdragon 600-800? what's the 720P limit?)
i am willing to wait until an Android phone will have a usable 720 slo-mo..
so what hardware could provide this? as i can see nowdays, the latest android phones cannot do it (not the NOTE 3 or the G2 which doesn't even have slo-mo to begin with).
my choice now are either wait for a phone that will (maybe the next HTC?), or wait till apple make a bigger phone (cannot stand the small screen).
your thoughts on this?
thanks.
What specs does the N6 offer in turns of slow motion video capturing?
Bump. I have the same question. Seems that none of the reviews explored the camera settings. Any update on this?
Everything I have seen has said that it takes video at 30fps
As far as I know, slow motion requires more frames per second. So I'm thinking that's a no on slow-mo. I could be wrong though.
The only spec i see is 4k @30fps.
I hope the stock camera app will allow for 1080P or 720P at either 60, 120, or 240fps. This is really a make or break decision for me, but seeing as though there are no frame rate specs for the other resolutions yet I will probably just have to buy it and see. I'm sure the devs will have at it if it does not come factory, although I hope it comes stock.
I found this quote at techtimes.com, If true I hope for at least 720p @60fps+
"The Google Nexus 6 uses a 13-megapixel rear camera with OIS (opitcal image stabilization), dual-LED flash, autofocus, 4K video recording @ 30 fps, 1080p video @ 30 fps, and a 2-megapixel front-facing camera."
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The only spec i see is 4k @30fps.
I hope the stock camera app will allow for 1080P or 720P at either 60, 120, or 240fps. This is really a make or break decision for me, but seeing as though there are no frame rate specs for the other resolutions yet I will probably just have to buy it and see. I'm sure the devs will have at it if it does not come factory, although I hope it comes stock.
I found this quote at techtimes.com, If true I hope for at least 720p @60fps+
"The Google Nexus 6 uses a 13-megapixel rear camera with OIS (opitcal image stabilization), dual-LED flash, autofocus, 4K video recording @ 30 fps, 1080p video @ 30 fps, and a 2-megapixel front-facing camera."
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I don't know if this video is legit, but here's a youtube video supposedly shot by the Nexus 6, 1080p @ 120 fps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq7XPDsnuXk
i'm sure that video is fake. There is no proof that the video came from a nexus 6, let alone any mobile device.
Once the embargo is lifted on the 12th we'll all know 100% about the camera I suppose
Google I/O
Lollipop opens up the Camera API to try to allow camera apps to take full advantage of the camera hardware. What is that camera hardware able to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtp3tH27OFs
well this sucks ... from the Nexus 6 page on Motorola.com
"2160p (4K) UHD, 1080p HD and 720p HD video capture modes (30fps)"
hope they are just leaving out the rest of the modes
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well this sucks ... from the Nexus 6 page on Motorola.com
"2160p (4K) UHD, 1080p HD and 720p HD video capture modes (30fps)"
hope they are just leaving out the rest of the modes
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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Even my 2 year old Note 2 does slow motion video but the Note 4 slow motion still does not capture audio with the slow mo video or do it as well as the iPhone sadly. It would be great if the Nexus 6 could do slow mo with audio & had some cool video effects like the Note line..:good:
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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Agreed. Since the api allows for developers to gain access to it like never before I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see it. If I'm not mistaken the one plus one phone has slowmo recording and it uses the same camera. It's just something that needs to be implemented in the software.
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Agreed. Since the api allows for developers to gain access to it like never before I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see it. If I'm not mistaken the one plus one phone has slowmo recording and it uses the same camera. It's just something that needs to be implemented in the software.
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Even the reviewers in many of the reviews that came out yesterday seemed surprised at how basic the camera app on the N6 is. RAW capture is the big new thing with L but the camera app doesn't capture it. Either Google has a big update in store or developers will find their own way. There have already been numerous example improvements shown with lcamera.
Anyone with a device in hand yet try any 3rd party camera apps?
You have to remember the guy who posted about the api'$ and taking raw pics it was with nexus 5 and a camera app he wrote ... won't be long b
efore some apps have it though i am sure
Here is his git hub so his camera can be used
https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/
Here is the write up
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5-lollipop-camera-api-samples-540858/
since it has the same camera as the one plus, would installing the camera apk from it possibly bring slowmo recording or will it have to be written into the frame working?
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Double Bump. The answer to this question is what will decide whether I buy a nexus 6 or a note 4.
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Can someone with a nexus 6 try the app 'Open Camera' by Mark Harman (hopefully not the actor ) and hit the settings (gear) icon, Photo and video settings, Video frame rate, change it to 60 or 120 and then record a video. In theory this should bump the video up to a higher frame rate and then playback should be slow motion. Just a guess here but it is worth a try. Also I doubt this app is using the new 5.0 APIs so it may not be a true test.
Edit: better yet try this app that is designed for the 5.0 API. https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
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Double Bump. The answer to this question is what will decide whether I buy a nexus 6 or a note 4.
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Can someone with a nexus 6 try the app 'Open Camera' by Mark Harman (hopefully not the actor ) and hit the settings (gear) icon, Photo and video settings, Video frame rate, change it to 60 or 120 and then record a video. In theory this should bump the video up to a higher frame rate and then playback should be slow motion. Just a guess here but it is worth a try. Also I doubt this app is using the new 5.0 APIs so it may not be a true test.
Edit: better yet try this app that is designed for the 5.0 API. https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
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Cool suggestion; just tried the Open Camera app and video recorded at 720p with 120 FPS enabled but the playback appeared normal on device. I'm going to try and run the video on my PC and see if I can find if it actually recorded in 120. I'll also try that other app and get back to you.
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Cool suggestion; just tried the Open Camera app and video recorded at 720p with 120 FPS enabled but the playback appeared normal on device. I'm going to try and run the video on my PC and see if I can find if it actually recorded in 120. I'll also try that other app and get back to you.
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Cool! Keep me informed.
I tried the open camera as well as that L camera, I was able to change the framerate in the settings but it still records at 30 fps so no luck there sadly! I really hope we can get a slow motion app working someday, it's an awesome tool from time to time.