Saw this on Android Central
Yah and he won't say where he got it.
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Yah and he won't say where he got it.
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:/
As for a question, is it possible to charge with both the Pogo Charger and USB, at the same time, for faster charging?
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As for a question, is it possible to charge with both the Pogo Charger and USB, at the same time, for faster charging?
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Now THAT is an interesting question.
Err, so release an actual charger later sold separately? I thought it was supposed to be a pogo dock...
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We've been hearing that they meant to ship that pogo charger with the tablet but something stopped them at the last minute.
My favorite theory? It's an awful lot like an Apple Mag Safe connector, and Apple would LOVE to get a sales ban if they thought they could make it stick. They'd screw both Google and Samsung at the same time and laugh the whole way. So I bet Google and/or Samsung decided not to risk it.
The other theory was that it was defective or didn't pass safety certification. Also likely.
But the one theory that I personally (and completely) reject is that they held back on it in order to make more money selling it as an accessory. Why? Because Samsung AND Google have a **** record in getting device accessories to market in a timely manner, for one thing. So they just don't end up selling that many, if they sell them at all (look at all the hard to find Nexus phone docks, car docks, cases, etc).
And I don't think they held it back to cut costs on the N10 since it's really only a few more pennies expensive than a USB to microUSB connector...same amount of wires, a little bit more plastic, and a couple of cheap magnets that plug into the SAME mains charger they already shipped with the device.
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I think when it will become available all you gonna need is the special magnetic plug with the wire. No need new plug in adapter that goes to the wall ,that one on the picture is the original adapter came with the tablet same specs.
So than it should not be expensive!!
And I'm sure Google is aware of the issue.
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As for a question, is it possible to charge with both the Pogo Charger and USB, at the same time, for faster charging?
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The pogo charger should be fast enough so at while you charging it you can use the USB for other things
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Croak said:
We've been hearing that they meant to ship that pogo charger with the tablet but something stopped them at the last minute.
My favorite theory? It's an awful lot like an Apple Mag Safe connector, and Apple would LOVE to get a sales ban if they thought they could make it stick. They'd screw both Google and Samsung at the same time and laugh the whole way. So I bet Google and/or Samsung decided not to risk it.
The other theory was that it was defective or didn't pass safety certification. Also likely.
But the one theory that I personally (and completely) reject is that they held back on it in order to make more money selling it as an accessory. Why? Because Samsung AND Google have a **** record in getting device accessories to market in a timely manner, for one thing. So they just don't end up selling that many, if they sell them at all (look at all the hard to find Nexus phone docks, car docks, cases, etc).
And I don't think they held it back to cut costs on the N10 since it's really only a few more pennies expensive than a USB to microUSB connector...same amount of wires, a little bit more plastic, and a couple of cheap magnets that plug into the SAME mains charger they already shipped with the device.
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Ops I did not see your post , but that make sense!
The charger in the pics above is labeled 5V/2A (10W) - the same as the travel charger that comes with the N10 - in fact it is labeled "travel adapter", so this IS the charger that comes with the N10.
I hope the pogo charger will have at least 5V/5A (25W) when they release it. Even a 5V/10A (50W) would not really be too strong for a 9000mAh battery.
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The charger in the pics above is labeled 5V/2A (10W) - the same as the travel charger that comes with the N10 - in fact it is labeled "travel adapter", so this IS the charger that comes with the N10.
I hope the pogo charger will have at least 5V/5A (25W) when they release it. Even a 5V/10A (50W) would not really be too strong for a 9000mAh battery.
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5V/2A feeding through the pogo charger should be fine.
2 amp chargers are what the Galaxy Tab/Note 10.1, the iPad1/2/3/4, Transformer, Xoom, etc use with similar sized batteries. Of course they're all mated to a higher-rated connector than microUSB.
A 2 amp charger should mean 2 hours from empty to fully charged, and enough current to throw a slower charge on while using the tablet.
I estimates for my nexus 10, it would take around 7-7.5 hours for a full charge
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5V/2A feeding through the pogo charger should be fine.
2 amp chargers are what the Galaxy Tab/Note 10.1, the iPad1/2/3/4, Transformer, Xoom, etc use with similar sized batteries. Of course they're all mated to a higher-rated connector than microUSB.
A 2 amp charger should mean 2 hours from empty to fully charged, and enough current to throw a slower charge on while using the tablet.
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I don't know much about batteries, but in a mathematical point of view, shouldn't a 9Ah battery take 4,5 hours to fully charge if supplied with constant 2A? 2A * 4,5h = 9Ah
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The charger in the pics above is labeled 5V/2A (10W) - the same as the travel charger that comes with the N10 - in fact it is labeled "travel adapter", so this IS the charger that comes with the N10.
I hope the pogo charger will have at least 5V/5A (25W) when they release it. Even a 5V/10A (50W) would not really be too strong for a 9000mAh battery.
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But then couldn't we find a "generic" 5V/5A charger on like ebay or electronics store and just plug in the USB cable into it? Or heck even the Apple charger...
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5V/2A feeding through the pogo charger should be fine.
2 amp chargers are what the Galaxy Tab/Note 10.1, the iPad1/2/3/4, Transformer, Xoom, etc use with similar sized batteries. Of course they're all mated to a higher-rated connector than microUSB.
A 2 amp charger should mean 2 hours from empty to fully charged, and enough current to throw a slower charge on while using the tablet.
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iPad chargers are 5.1V/10A btw... And the iPad 3 still takes a lot longer to charge the the iPad2.
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A 2 amp charger should mean 2 hours from empty to fully charged, and enough current to throw a slower charge on while using the tablet.
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I'm sorry but I fear physics are not on your side, young Padawan.
garciaw said:
I don't know much about batteries, but in a mathematical point of view, shouldn't a 9Ah battery take 4,5 hours to fully charge if supplied with constant 2A? 2A * 4,5h = 9Ah
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Yep. But a LiIon charging current always tapers off towards the end (last ~20%), so it will take longer than that.
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But then couldn't we find a "generic" 5V/5A charger on like ebay or electronics store and just plug in the USB cable into it? Or heck even the Apple charger...
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In theory, yes. Maybe they limited the amount of current that can be applied via the micro USB port, though. I will not be the one to test it.
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But then couldn't we find a "generic" 5V/5A charger on like ebay or electronics store and just plug in the USB cable into it? Or heck even the Apple charger...
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iPad chargers are 5.1V/10A btw... And the iPad 3 still takes a lot longer to charge the the iPad2.
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I believe those chargers are 10 watts, not 10 amps.
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I believe those chargers are 10 watts, not 10 amps.
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Yea and the new ipad 4th come with a 12 watt i believe
I need one of these, got spoiled with how fast my old Xoom would charge. I'd likely end up buying two if I could, one as my home charger and extra cable to keep in my truck. I'm still glad the option of micro USB is on the Nexus too though.
Someone has already the nexus 10? That would clear all the questions...
I do, and indeed it takes almost 5 hours to charge, like they said, elemental physics.
I should receive an external battery with 3a, will try that, though I don't know if the 3a are supplied or if they are 2 plus 1
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I estimates for my nexus 10, it would take around 7-7.5 hours for a full charge
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That's about right, I received mine yesterday with about a 65% charge, it took almost 4 hours to 100%. Granted it was on and downloading software with the screen on about half the time....
anyone find out where to buy one of these?
Related
I was just wondering if anyone here has spotted a Nexus 7 car charger? Does it not matter if it's not specifically made for the Nexus 7? I'm trying to find one to buy online and I'm having some troubles. First post here I think I came to the right place though. :laugh:
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I was just wondering if anyone here has spotted a Nexus 7 car charger? Does it not matter if it's not specifically made for the Nexus 7? I'm trying to find one to buy online and I'm having some troubles. First post here I think I came to the right place though. :laugh:
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Clicked thanks on accident lol. Any USB car charger should work, but I would make sure you grap a 1 amp one just so it has enough output to charge the tablet at a decent rate.
probably better with a 2amp one. samsung makes one for the tab2, about $12 on amazon, and just use your own microusb cable to connect to it.
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probably better with a 2amp one. samsung makes one for the tab2, about $12 on amazon, and just use your own microusb cable to connect to it.
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Heck, I didn't even know they had 2 amp ones.
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probably better with a 2amp one. samsung makes one for the tab2, about $12 on amazon, and just use your own microusb cable to connect to it.
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Yup, go with a 2Amp one. Most of the cigarette lighter usb chargers are 2.1A.
Avoid the cheap Chinese 2+Amp car chargers, they can be so badly made they cause enough interference to wipe out your FM radio.
/edit 1Amp will be fine but don't go lower, the N7 would likely burn it out.
FYI I tried a 5v 1a wall charger and my gnex7 said f u wouldn't take the charge. 2a or nothing I say
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Troute said:
Avoid the cheap Chinese 2+Amp car chargers, they can be so badly made they cause enough interference to wipe out your FM radio.
/edit 1Amp will be fine but don't go lower, the N7 would likely burn it out.
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Do you already have the Nexus 7? If so, can you take a look at the charger and see if rated at 1A output and/or try to charge it with a charger that came with your phone?
I am just curious if it can actually charge with less than 2A. The charger listed in the Play Store outputs 2Amps and I thought most tablets require 2A to charge.
https://play.google.com/store/devic...sMSwyLDExMSwiZGV2aWNlLW5leHVzXzdfY2hhcmdlciJd
Fusion777 said:
FYI I tried a 5v 1a wall charger and my gnex7 said f u wouldn't take the charge. 2a or nothing I say
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Thanks for verifying.
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Do you already have the Nexus 7? If so, can you take a look at the charger and see if rated at 1A output and/or try to charge it with a charger that came with your phone?
Thanks for verifying.
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Still waiting, should only be a couple of days now though...
I know this is something most people never do...but if you read the manual for the Nexus 7 it says you can charge it on a standard USB port with the Nexus 7 in sleep mode (no doubt because the power draw is much less). Standard USB ports are typically .5A...sometimes less. I would say that's the actual minimum. For the fastest charging 2A is what you want though.
The ASUS charger that comes with the N7 is rated at 2A (10W). I tested an old BlackBerry 0.85A (~4W) micoUSB charger and it seemed to work fine and the N7 didn't complain though I didn't do any scientific tests against the charging rates.
The 0.5A (2.5W) chargers probably won't even charge the unit if you're actively using it.
Cheers,
Kermee
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The ASUS charger that comes with the N7 is rated at 2A (10W). I tested an old BlackBerry 0.85A (~4W) micoUSB charger and it seemed to work fine and the N7 didn't complain though I didn't do any scientific tests against the charging rates.
The 0.5A (2.5W) chargers probably won't even charge the unit if you're actively using it.
Cheers,
Kermee
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Yeah...read my previous post...the manual says you can charge on a standard usb port (0.5A sometimes less) but only if the Nexus 7 is in sleep mode...ie you're not actively using it. If you can't charge it while connected to USB and it's in the sleep state...then your usb port is probably a low power USB port (<0.5A).
For those looking for a good backup battery charger for it...I recommend this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NGKR54/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
works perfectly with my Nexus 7 (just make sure to use the correct USB out port on it as only one of them is 2A)
DealExtreme Charger
Saw this one on DealExtreme, even come with cable:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/car-ci...-port-for-google-nexus-7-tablet-146751?item=8
Will be ordering will update when arrives. Also they're carrying Nexus 7 Cables in Pink, Green and Orange.
Was using a Sprint micro-USB plus charger (model PVX8823) with attached cable and standard USB port for 2nd device that I was using for my phone. Output is 0.65Amp which isn't sufficient and will slowly drain the N7 battery while in use. ~$35 at Sprint retail store. Wouldn't recommend for obvious reason.
Fortunately, had a spare Motorola SPN5400A 1Amp I bought with some screen protectors from Amazon because it was cheap like ~$5. 1Amp is sufficiently to maintain the charge while in use at near worse case running 3D games like Dead Trigger, Shadowngun, etc. So, 1Amp is minimum threshold.
You need a charger that:
1) Is capable of 2A (1.5A may be sufficient, 1A is a little too low)
2) Shorts D+ and D- together - This rules out most iPad chargers.
If it says it is made for iPod/iPad it will not work without modifications or adapters.
Samsung tablet chargers will work.
If you take an iPad charger, open it up, and short D+ and D- together, it will work.
dkhilo said:
Saw this one on DealExtreme, even come with cable:
Will be ordering will update when arrives. Also they're carrying Nexus 7 Cables in Pink, Green and Orange.
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Sorry to bump an old thread but any feedback with that charger? I'm looking for one with 2 port to power both my N7 and my droid razr maxx while in car.
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Sorry to bump an old thread but any feedback with that charger? I'm looking for one with 2 port to power both my N7 and my droid razr maxx while in car.
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Most chargers for android phones will work. I use my HTC charger for ,mine and I bought a car charge that has the standard micro USB connector but also has another USB port so I can charge 2 devices at the same time with 1 charging unit. You droid razor charger will work just fine. You just need to locate a charger that is capable of charging 2 devices at the same time such as this one
http://www.amazon.com/GTMax-Metalic-Vehicle-Charger-Adapter/dp/B005X5L8PI
You'll be good to go with this.
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Sorry to bump an old thread but any feedback with that charger? I'm looking for one with 2 port to power both my N7 and my droid razr maxx while in car.
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Check out this oem charger from Sprint. Its a dual port charger with a 2a output and you dont have to worry about buying a knock off charger that may or may not perform as expected. It also can be used as a wall charger. Good price too....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130712043019?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1459wt_1399
So are any of these confirmed 100% to work? the one a few links back (GTMax) says works with iphone, and I thougth that meant would NOT work with N7. So I am confused on what will work, and I am already on my 2nd Nexus7 being I blew out the USB trying a bunch of differnt chargers for the car.
I would like something that is small and can have multiple USB plugged in, but not a show stopper, just hope to find something on Amazon (Prefer Prime) so I can oder with my case today. Really want to use this in the car more (GPS\GoogleMusic..ect.), but with no power not a great option.
Thanks in Advance,
Drops
dkhilo said:
Saw this one on DealExtreme, even come with cable:
In for the orange so it will be easy to spot if misplaced. Thanks!
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So I was gearing up to charge my N7 for the first time so I decide to leave it plugged in over night.
I wake up and I find that the screen is on and "Charging 41%" is flashing on the screen.
Anyone experience this yet?
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So I was gearing up to charge my N7 for the first time so I decide to leave it plugged in over night.
I wake up and I find that the screen is on and "Charging 41%" is flashing on the screen.
Anyone experience this yet?
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Are you able to turn it on and run the device?
Play with it a while and see if things improve or get worse.
Were you using the OEM charger AND cable? The $1 chinese cable I used with the OEM charger had mine charging to 100% in 16 hours +
Make sure you are using the OEM Charger & Cable.
Also make sure you use the mains and not a USB port, I tried using a USB port on my mains and charging was like 1% per 30 mins, plugged it directly via the AC adapter in and started going up 1% per min.
I am using the charger that came with my Nexus One at the moment. It seems to work fine with all my other phones, does the N7 need more power or something?
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I am using the charger that came with my Nexus One at the moment. It seems to work fine with all my other phones, does the N7 need more power or something?
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The Nexus One's charger is 1A, the Nexus 7 charger is 2A. ...Have you even attempted to use the correct charger before starting this thread?
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The Nexus One's charger is 1A, the Nexus 7 charger is 2A. ...Have you even attempted to use the correct charger before starting this thread?
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Irrelevant.
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Irrelevant.
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It is? Then why does it come with a 2A charger instead of a 1A charger? ...And go.
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It is? Then why does it come with a 2A charger instead of a 1A charger? ...And go.
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I didn't add the link for fun. Click it and learn.
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I didn't add the link for fun. Click it and learn.
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I knew you wouldn't answer the question.
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Irrelevant.
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It's not irrelevant. It means the 2A charger can source up to 2 amps if needed (which obviously it does need).
A tablet has a lot bigger battery and draws more current then a phone, which is why it has a bigger charger. If the charger can't source enough current to overcome the rate that the device uses power, then it won't charge or will take forever.
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It's not irrelevant. It means the 2A charger can source up to 2 amps if needed (which obviously it does need).
A tablet has a lot bigger battery and draws more current then a phone, which is why it has a bigger charger. If the charger can't source enough current to overcome the rate that the device uses power, then it won't charge or will take forever.
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You know what.. I confused this thread with another. My bad. Not irrelevent.
BUT.. 1 amp is more than enough to charge an N7. My old 700ma rated Blackberry charger can charge it from 0-100% in under 8 hours.
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The Nexus One's charger is 1A, the Nexus 7 charger is 2A. ...Have you even attempted to use the correct charger before starting this thread?
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Why would I use it if I thought it was the same?
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BUT.. 1 amp is more than enough to charge an N7. My old 700ma rated Blackberry charger can charge it from 0-100% in under 8 hours.
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The stock 2A charger does it in about 3 hours and change from full drain power down to full charge.
Both of you are right, not the irrelevant part mind you but the part that it is enough and it may not be.
It all depends on what the tablet is doing at charging time. If it is off and the leakage current is low (as it should be) then most any 5v transformer will do. It will just take longer to charge.
HOWEVER if the transformer is not able to feed the N7 with more current than it needs to operate, on or off, sorry it won't work, no charging for you.
Now shake hands and go play outside.
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You know what.. I confused this thread with another. My bad. Not irrelevent.
BUT.. 1 amp is more than enough to charge an N7. My old 700ma rated Blackberry charger can charge it from 0-100% in under 8 hours.
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No problem. I didn't mean to get snippy either, but I'm having a sh*tty day. ..To get back on topic, being an amateur radio operator, I have to have a little knowledge on electronic theory. My original response wasn't really to debate whether 1A is actually enough to charge an N7. My post to the OP was pointing out that he is in fact using a charger rated at half the amps of the rated charged of the N7, for whatever the reason it isn't working, and it also seems instead of trying the correct charger, he came directly in here.
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magius said:
Now shake hands and go play outside.
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:laugh:
The confusion (to me) was that the OP said it STOPPED at 41%. I don't think it stopped, that was just as far as it had gotten.
Maybe you can help me with my problem, now that this one is solved..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784322
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HOWEVER if the transformer is not able to feed the N7 with more current than it needs to operate, on or off, sorry it won't work, no charging for you.
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The transformer is a source. It doesn't feed or force, it gives what is demanded by what it connected to it, as long as it's not over what it can handle (2A max rating) - in which case the coils of the transformer will get hot, possibly melting off the clear enamel insulation of the coils until you get a short and sparks flying out of your outlet, and pop a surge protector (hopefully)
edit: well unless it has some over_current protection built into it, or a fuse, in which case it would just die and not charge anymore :laugh:
edit2: But as just lou said, try the correct charger.
Another problem from using too low of a current transformer is you could put too much stress on it, and then it's voltage regulation circuits don't keep a nice clean steady voltage, and instead you could get spikes or noise, and that could lock up your device too. Of course this is just all possibilities, but to rule out variables it's just easier to use the correct charger
If the Nexus tablet requires 2 amps, then it will pull upto 2 amps. If it's doing this from a 1 amp supply, then the 1 amp power supply will overheat and possibly break. Amps can be larger than needed, but make sure voltage is correct.
I was able to pick up car chargers already, but am having a hard time finding a good deal on extra 2amp wall chargers. Samsung had one on their accessory page for a while, but never got any stock. It disappeared in the last few days.
Might be cheaper to buy an iPad compatible brick and use it with a microusb cable. Works well and charges fast, and reusable for future devices.
radio shack has a 4port 2a that will give max draw to one port. i have already tested it with a multimeter. they are like 22$
Haven't gotten a chance to test these yet: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073FCPSK/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
I definitely noticed my old htc wall charger is slower to charge the note2 than my nexus 7 wall charger.
Can you guys recommend best car/wall chargers as far as amps(Electrical jargon I'm not too familiar with)?
I was wondering if higher amp is better?
I realize the device will cut off current too high, but wondering what the max it can draw is? perhaps over 2amp?
Will it mess up my wifes Note 1 if she uses my charger? Will it charge hers faster?
no they will limit the charge so you dont have to worry about that. most devices can accept up to 2A at 5V anyways. That is the limit for the spec. The absolute is 2.4 A i think.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055QYJJM/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
I got two of these when they were only $19.99 each.
if you have a radio shack close why waste the time on shipping
You people seriously pay $20++ for wall chargers? LOL!
I got 5 of the Xentris 2A wall chargers, for $25 including shipping!
Xentris 2A Wall Charger
The connected micro usb cable is 2A, and the extra USB port is 1A. Both charge the Note 2 perfectly and the prongs flip up.
NeonMonster said:
You people seriously pay $20++ for wall chargers? LOL!
I got 5 of the Xentris 2A wall chargers, for $25 including shipping!
Xentris 2A Wall Charger
The connected micro usb cable is 2A, and the extra USB port is 1A. Both charge the Note 2 perfectly and the prongs flip up.
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The joke may be on you if your chargers are cheaply made. It all comes down to the person if they want to stay safe or not. You can risk your battery's life dying earlier than normal, or just plain ol damaging your phone. If you've had luck with those, than more power to you.
If anyone was curious, there was substantial testing done to a few chargers that may give you insight on what to put your money on.
http://www.arcfn.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html
RMXO said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055QYJJM/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
I got two of these when they were only $19.99 each.
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I have an extra one of these from when I got a TouchStone for my TouchPad. Planned on keeping it at work for my Note II.
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The joke may be on you if your chargers are cheaply made. It all comes down to the person if they want to stay safe or not. You can risk your battery's life dying earlier than normal, or just plain ol damaging your phone. If you've had luck with those, than more power to you.
If anyone was curious, there was substantial testing done to a few chargers that may give you insight on what to put your money on.
http://www.arcfn.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html
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Excellent read, thanks sent!
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You people seriously pay $20++ for wall chargers? LOL!
I got 5 of the Xentris 2A wall chargers, for $25 including shipping!
Xentris 2A Wall Charger
The connected micro usb cable is 2A, and the extra USB port is 1A. Both charge the Note 2 perfectly and the prongs flip up.
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I have seen that one brand of 2A chargers. Do you think it charges as fast as your OEM charger? How long have you had them now?
Also how did you get them for $5 each?
Hey guys,
Looks like a new induction charging product for Note 2 or S3 has surfaced on eBay. Or maybe it's not new to some. This is not a modded Touchstone version, but instead a patch induction coil that is pressed against the charging pin on top of the battery. It comes with the mat as well. It's a 1000mAH charging current. You can buy the coil or charging pad separately too. I picked one up, but it'll take a while to get here because it's coming from HK.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190763556346
Thought I would share! :highfive:
I will have to wait but I would like to have this. After that Nokia 920 wireless charging is a simple accessory to have.
Sometimes you just want to throw stuff... just make sure it belongs to someone else.
There is one thing to consider, does the Note II support 1A through the charging pins?
xartic12 said:
There is one thing to consider, does the Note II support 1A through the charging pins?
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I don't see why not. I was able to charge my Note 2 using my Galaxy S2 micro-usb charger no problem. The 2A stock just makes it charge faster. In fact, I am glad that the induction coil is charging the device at 1A. The heat generated with the pad next to the battery would not be good for the battery itself. My Palm Pre used to get hot when it was on the Touchstone. The slower charge rate is also less 'stressful' on the battery. You can google about the charge rate to see what I mean.
I saw on a thread here that someone is looking for a 2A car charger. There's no need for that unless you're in a hurry. Again, my Samsung GS2 car charger also charge my Note 2 just fine as well. I drove on an 8hr road trip with that charger plugged in and it worked fine. It charged the phone and kept it topped up.
Will not work with different versions of Note 2?
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I don't see why not. I was able to charge my Note 2 using my Galaxy S2 micro-usb charger no problem. The 2A stock just makes it charge faster. In fact, I am glad that the induction coil is charging the device at 1A. The heat generated with the pad next to the battery would not be good for the battery itself. My Palm Pre used to get hot when it was on the Touchstone. The slower charge rate is also less 'stressful' on the battery. You can google about the charge rate to see what I mean.
I saw on a thread here that someone is looking for a 2A car charger. There's no need for that unless you're in a hurry. Again, my Samsung GS2 car charger also charge my Note 2 just fine as well. I drove on an 8hr road trip with that charger plugged in and it worked fine. It charged the phone and kept it topped up.
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from the ebay listing instructions:
"1)stick the tag with the 2 metal connectors facing downwards to the 2 metal connectors next to the battery."
My Note 2 does not have the 2 metal connectors next to the battery (metal connectors might be hidden)....sucks looks very convenient to have. I think other users have found out that the Sprint and Verizon's version of the Note 2 need modifications for this to work. bummer..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945582&highlight=verizon&page=21
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from the ebay listing instructions:
"1)stick the tag with the 2 metal connectors facing downwards to the 2 metal connectors next to the battery."
My Note 2 does not have the 2 metal connectors next to the battery (metal connectors might be hidden)....sucks looks very convenient to have. I think other users have found out that the Sprint and Verizon's version of the Note 2 need modifications for this to work. bummer..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945582&highlight=verizon&page=21
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Yeah, that sucks. I just checked my ATT N2 and the connectors are there.
This is the one I bought from a chinese manufacturer. The pad is thick. The phone doesn't sit fluch on a flat surface.
That said, bought this for the T889 and it does not work. Looks like the TMO version may need a wire running from a resistor to the positive contact point.
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Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully it doesn't have the issues you had with the T889.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945582
Checkout that thread, it's mentioned that the kernel limits the charging on the 2 pins for wireless to 500mA.
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That's not an issue for me. Induction charging is a convenience for at the end of the day. I'm not in a hurry since it's going to be charging overnight anyway. Besides, slower charge is more gentle on the battery. But that slower charging rate is good to know. It might be a deal breaker for some people.
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Besides, slower charge is more gentle on the battery.
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True, but even at a 2A charge, Samsung is being gentle on the battery. As a genera rule, all Lithium batteries can charge at what is called a "1C" rate. To find the rate, it's as simple as multiplying 1 by the capacity of the battery in amp-hours.
So, the stock battery could charge at 3.1A with no problems. More advanced batteries are 2C and some 5C. As you can see 2A is below the standard charge rate, 1A is further below it and 500Ma is *really* below it.
TL;DR you can charge at 2A with no damage
I plan on using this charger in my vehicle's car mount. I will a NFC tag to open pandora and turn bluetooth on, as well as it will start charge since the dock will have the charger mounted in it. I use 3 batteries in rotation anyway, so I do not rely on charging my phone via cable.
with the note 2 you will only get 500mAh max, with sets people are buying that hs been posted, the base will trickle charge at 300mAh when reached about 70-80 % charged.
i'm actually using the same set, along with a double base and panasonic one at work for both S3 and Note 2.
Again, the charge rate is not critical for me as long as it gets the job done when I wake up. Induction charging is really for the convenience. If I'm in a hurry, I'll plug it into the OEM 2A charger.
Are you using the same one from my link or the Touchstone mod?
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Again, the charge rate is not critical for me as long as it gets the job done when I wake up. Induction charging is really for the convenience. If I'm in a hurry, I'll plug it into the OEM 2A charger.
Are you using the same one from my link or the Touchstone mod?
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i agree, bed time charging, slow is better for the battery.
I have the same one, and a double base, also have a panasonic one at work.
I saw on the eBay listing that the N2 pad supposedly output 1A, whereas the S3 version output 700mA. Are you using it on your S3 or N2? Not sure if you have a N2 because N2 is not listed on your signature.
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I saw on the eBay pics that the N2 pad supposedly output 1A, whereas the S3 version output 500mA. Are you using it on your S3 or N2? Not sure because N2 is not listed on your signature.
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forget, the photo, info i get is direct from my supplier, they are also the manufacturer.
i had the s3, just got a note 2 now.
Think it'll charge through a TPU case? Even if it gets reduced to ~500mah charge because of the added thickness of the case I wouldn't mind.
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Think it'll charge through a TPU case? Even if it gets reduced to ~500mah charge because of the added thickness of the case I wouldn't mind.
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most.
my S3 tag has 700 maH , not 1000 maH (like note 2 tags)
now i put it on my phone and put it on my LG Verizion wireless charger
and it just beeps green/yellow flashing lights
sometimes it will just show green (means its charging) but my phone has zero indication that it is charging, I figure the tag that was sent to me is faulty
Has anyone found a wall charger that they're happy with? I have an Amazon basics 2.1 Amp one that charges OK and shows up as an A/C charger in the battery stats, but it's not as fast as the stock one (which already is slow).
I'd post a link to what I have, but the forum still sees me as a newbie even though I've been lurking around for a few years now.
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Has anyone found a wall charger that they're happy with? I have an Amazon basics 2.1 Amp one that charges OK and shows up as an A/C charger in the battery stats, but it's not as fast as the stock one (which already is slow).
I'd post a link to what I have, but the forum still sees me as a newbie even though I've been lurking around for a few years now.
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i'm still waiting for the pogo chargers to go back on sale.
fionic said:
i'm still waiting for the pogo chargers to go back on sale.
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Same... :crying:
If you don't really care about super fast charging time almost all usb wall chargers are the same because of the limitations of a usb cable. Just color, shape, and size might vary
I'm using the my hp Touchpad charger. It seems like it charges faster than the original charger. I'll have to test and see though.
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I bought a pogo charger so it won't take up the micro usb slot and also safer charging with pets (or kids). If I'm lucky it will charge faster too.
the pogo charger uses the original samsung ac adapter though.. it doesn't come with one
I just use any random charger I have (I think I use an old Kindle one right now) and leave it charge while I sleep. I have no complaints and have a POGO on order.
I ordered the Powergen chargers for both the wall and my car. They supply 3.1 amps so whatever the max is that the N10 will take, it will get it.
Search for "powergen 3.1" on Amazon and you'll find both.
I'm using my Asus Transformer Prime charger with mine. It seems to work well.
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I ordered the Powergen chargers for both the wall and my car. They supply 3.1 amps so whatever the max is that the N10 will take, it will get it.
Search for "powergen 3.1" on Amazon and you'll find both.
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Nice tip - thanks. That and the POGO has to be about as fast as it gets PLUS with the second USB port I will be able to charge my phone and tablet at the same time, same charger.
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I ordered the Powergen chargers for both the wall and my car. They supply 3.1 amps so whatever the max is that the N10 will take, it will get it.
Search for "powergen 3.1" on Amazon and you'll find both.
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Thanks everyone for your input. I ended up ordering the Powergen 3.1 charger suggested above. I'll report back on what my experience is. I did note that one of the reviews of that item at Amazon says it charges the Nexus 10 well, so my hopes are high.
Next question - anyone know what happens if you plug in the POGO charger and a USB charger at the same time?
Your charger isnt going to make a great deal of difference in charge time. An updated and/or custom kernel will help a LOT more with that.
The AC wall unit isn't a charger, it's the power supply for the charger inside the N10.
Me and another N10 owner measured how much current the N10 draws from the PS and it was less than 1A, so the device isn't even asking anywhere near the max that the PS can supply. Unless there is someother reason and there very well could be, a larger PS "might" be a waste of time/money.
I think the N10 charger uses a special usb protocol which allows it to charger faster than most
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Your charger isnt going to make a great deal of difference in charge time. An updated and/or custom kernel will help a LOT more with that.
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I'm intrigued; how is that? More importantly, does such a kernel currently exist? I started this thread in search of a second charger that just worked as well as the original one. I'd be happier if could find something that did better than the OEM.
jerryp7 said:
Nice tip - thanks. That and the POGO has to be about as fast as it gets PLUS with the second USB port I will be able to charge my phone and tablet at the same time, same charger.
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What I can tell you is that both powergen units charge the N10 fine.
What I can't tell you is whether they charge the N10 any faster than the stock wall unit. I haven't done any testing.
I'm expecting my pogo cable any day, maybe I'll do some testing then.
There are so many differing theories here, who knows?
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What I can tell you is that both powergen units charge the N10 fine.
What I can't tell you is whether they charge the N10 any faster than the stock wall unit. I haven't done any testing.
I'm expecting my pogo cable any day, maybe I'll do some testing then.
There are so many differing theories here, who knows?
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Yes so many, maybe if someone would write to Mr google and ask him he would explains it to us hehehe
I have seen some dual USB port PS that are rated "total" for both "not" each port. How is this PowerGen 3.1?
Just check and it's listed as "shared", so that's 3.1A total.
The description clearly states that each port can supply up to 3.1A. If both are used at once, the 3.1A is shared.