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[Q] Bad IMEI Windows Phone.

I'm going to give Windows Phone a try, I found couple good condition Nokia Lumia 820 810 from tmobile and att but they have banned IMEI. I think I'll buy one to discover WinPhone.
My question is since the phone is blocked, does windows phones require to activate the first time you set up ? My assume is only online activate with microsoft but not carriers so I can use without sim card.

Nhan Lam said:
I'm going to give Windows Phone a try, I found couple good condition Nokia Lumia 820 810 from tmobile and att but they have banned IMEI. I think I'll buy one to discover WinPhone.
My question is since the phone is blocked, does windows phones require to activate the first time you set up ? My assume is only online activate with microsoft but not carriers so I can use without sim card.
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No, genuine wp devices won't need to activate, you may get a no Sim nag screen, but you can sync up to live with wifi, so yeah should be OK to test, only thing I'd say is that the imei is banned for a reason, if its stolen then you buying it is about as ****ty as stealing it yourself...supply an demand my friend, if folk wouldn't buy them other folk wouldn't nick them
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To unlock or not to unlock that is the question

So I have a note 3 Att branded. And they are a bunch of A$$holes and willnot unlock the device because i am the second owner.
yes it has a clean Imei. So I have been debating on the option of Unlocking my device through a web site.
I currently use it with straight talk with the BYOP program so i use a ATT sim. But I have been having issues with MMS messages,
from what i have been reading this is mainly a ATT issue. so I thought if I use a Tmobile sim card it may correct the issue.
what do you think?

Just putting this out there in case it's remotely helpful for you, I went through that insanity with a preowned iPhone 4 from ATT that I wanted to use with T-Mobile and I solved it by going in the opposite direction. I went to T-Mobile. Might be the neighborhood but the nice people there pointed me to a nearby electronics store who also did cellphone unlocking and for a fee that I can't remember off the top of my head they used some internal system and got my phone factory unlocked within 24 hours, after ATT had told me that they wouldn't do it.
If you happen to live in New York I can tell you where I went, otherwise I can say go look for a local electronics store and see if they'll submit the request for you... Or ask at your local T-Mobile store whether they know a store who does unlocks. I don't understand enough about this stuff to explain but I can at least relay that it worked out well enough for me. The iPhone 4 worked fine with T-Mobile afterwards.

I have always used ebay or an "unlocking" site. I have used both methods quite a bit because I sell phones on ebay and I used to work for a friend that owns a couple prepaid phone/service stores. I also worked at a small tech repair store and did unlocks there as well. Anyway my point is that the government and the phone companies have made it a lot harder and more expensive to unlock newer phones. Also I would do your research on tmobile in your area before spending too much money on unlocking. It may be different for you but in my area tmobile and sprint suck as far as coverage. Plus tmobile doesn't have lte.
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I really don't want to unlock unless I have to but I can't get mms messages and I didn't know if it was a att issue
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dyson77 said:
I really don't want to unlock unless I have to but I can't get mms messages and I didn't know if it was a att issue
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How will unlocking help you get your messages?
Never mind I am stupid..

Wanted to take a moment and tell everyone. I ordered a new sim card. My network went from saying home in the upper left to att and everything is fixed I can get mms
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Must use new sim

Not sure if this is the right place but this post is just to inform people of what i learned the hard way today.
There are new SIM cards, they should come shipped with your phone. If you are like me, you just toss your old card in and go with it. I was unable to get LTE with it, but i didnt know that was the issue. I went to the store, they gave me a new SIM to try, and the same thing. The manager got involved and when she looked at the SIM she said it wasnt right. Apparently, the new SIM cards have grey and purple on them in one of the corners. Not 100% what it is but one of the guys said it had something to do with ISIS.
Anyways, long story short if you are getting 4g in the notification, but not LTE and you ,know you are in an LTE area, make sure you are using one of the new SIM cards, it is apparently a requirement because as soon as we put one in, i was good to go.

cloudraker said:
Not sure if this is the right place but this post is just to inform people of what i learned the hard way today.
There are new SIM cards, they should come shipped with your phone. If you are like me, you just toss your old card in and go with it. I was unable to get LTE with it, but i didnt know that was the issue. I went to the store, they gave me a new SIM to try, and the same thing. The manager got involved and when she looked at the SIM she said it wasnt right. Apparently, the new SIM cards have grey and purple on them in one of the corners. Not 100% what it is but one of the guys said it had something to do with ISIS.
Anyways, long story short if you are getting 4g in the notification, but not LTE and you ,know you are in an LTE area, make sure you are using one of the new SIM cards, it is apparently a requirement because as soon as we put one in, i was good to go.
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More than likely the ISIS issue has to do with a secure element SIM. LTE should be available as long as a LTE enabled SIM is used but it will be interesting to see if AT&T has changed the game again. I guess we will soon know when others try to use their LTE enabled SIMs (from their S4s) in their S5s.

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More than likely the ISIS issue has to do with a secure element SIM. LTE should be available as long as a LTE enabled SIM is used but it will be interesting to see if AT&T has changed the game again. I guess we will soon know when others try to use their LTE enabled SIMs (from their S4s) in their S5s.
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I was using an LTE enabled SIM from my G2, and the new one they gave me originally was also an LTE enabled SIM. Thats the reason for this post. The new SIM has to be used, at least thats the only way they were able to get LTE to work on mine and i truly dont think thats coincidence.

cloudraker said:
I was using an LTE enabled SIM from my G2, and the new one they gave me originally was also an LTE enabled SIM. Thats the reason for this post. The new SIM has to be used, at least thats the only way they were able to get LTE to work on mine and i truly dont think thats coincidence.
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That's interesting, but not surprising. I have to wonder if they did it to keep people from just switching SIM cards from an older phone to a newer phone without telling AT&T.

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That's interesting, but not surprising. I have to wonder if they did it to keep people from just switching SIM cards from an older phone to a newer phone without telling AT&T.
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That was the store managers theory as well. They hadnt even unboxed the new SIMs yet, so i had to hang out for a bit to wait on it.

LTE worked for me with old sim i had from SGS4 , but ISIS complained that it's not secure sim ect. ISIS wont work with old sim, if you dont care for ISIS old sim should get you LTE if you had it before.
New sim did come with the my SGS5 phone when i preordered , droped that in called customer rep to provision it and was set.

ordered mine with Next program, and it shipped with a new sim. Ignored the new sim. popped my nano sim card in using an adapter and works well and I get LTE.

not true. i popped the same micro sim from my S3 into my S5 last night and it worked perfectly fine. LTE works and is just as fast. the only thing was the ISIS app was complaining that i needed to use the new sim to use the new features. I disabled ISIS completely and no more notifications.

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not true. i popped the same micro sim from my S3 into my S5 last night and it worked perfectly fine. LTE works and is just as fast. the only thing was the ISIS app was complaining that i needed to use the new sim to use the new features. I disabled ISIS completely and no more notifications.
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I am also using my S3 sim in my S5 showing LTE and getting LTE speeds with no error messages. Not sure what ISIS is though.

Pretty sure the new gray sim card is built out of security to use ISIS ( an E- wallet that use money in your cellphone account, etc ).
When I switch from G2 to Note 3, the guy in AT&T store ask me to change the sim card.
The season is just to make sure ISIS is secure when you doing transaction using your phone

laofan said:
Pretty sure the new gray sim card is built out of security to use ISIS ( an E- wallet that use money in your cellphone account, etc ).
When I switch from G2 to Note 3, the guy in AT&T store ask me to change the sim card.
The season is just to make sure ISIS is secure when you doing transaction using your phone
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Well, that's exactly what I said to start with but the OP insisted a new SIM was needed for LTE.

Also using a SIM that is about 2 years old.
On top of that I was constantly (like 2-3 times a week) switching between an S4, Nexus 5, and an iphone 5 with out issues and got LTE on all of them.

shockandawe said:
ordered mine with Next program, and it shipped with a new sim. Ignored the new sim. popped my nano sim card in using an adapter and works well and I get LTE.
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Same here and all is well. ISIS wont work but I dont care for now.

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Well, that's exactly what I said to start with but the OP insisted a new SIM was needed for LTE.
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Maybe im just a bad bad man trying to spread misinformation to the masses. J/K
I was simply sharing what had been determined by myself and a few at the AT&T store. If its wrong, i apologize. Like i stated we had tested with 2 other SIM cards, the old style and even after several reboots, we could never get it to switch from 4g to 4g LTE. Of course as its been mentioned here, i also find it odd that in the time we had other SIM cards in, i never saw an ISIS error. Maybe my phone is just jank.

No harm in the info just had that problem today with gf pro. She wanted to use isis to get the free 50 bones they are offering and she had to get the new Sim with secure in it.
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My question is will Google wallet still work after the new Sim it installed and setup with old Sim have not tested tap and pay yet
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My question is will Google wallet still work after the new Sim it installed and setup with old Sim have not tested tap and pay yet
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That wasn't easy to follow, but if you are asking if you can switch back to an old sim card after ISIS is setup, the answer is no. The new sim with the secure element must be used for ISIS to function.

Yes it was but have wallet already set up and want to get the new Sim, was hoping it doesn't kill wallet
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bookmonke said:
Yes it was but have wallet already set up and want to get the new Sim, was hoping it doesn't kill wallet
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the wallet wont work without the secure sim

Without using the new sim Isis wallet will not work and you will not receive the $50.00 on Serve.

[Q] Can you use this phone to tap to pay like other phones?

Hey guys I have an NFC SIM and was hoping to use this phone as a tap to pay.
I called into my bank and they are saying the only phones that are supported are some samsung phones and the 9900.
Just wondering if there is any provider or way to use this as a tap to pay phone right now. I would much rather use that than bringing my wallet everywhere!
I am Canadian if it makes a difference, thanks a lot!

I don't think Canadian affects tap and pay. This phone has NFC built in and is ready to use for tap and pay. If Google Wallet works in Canada you should be good to go even with a regular, non-NFC sim. In the US, there is a ISIS/SoftCard tap and pay app that requires the NFC sim.

Google Wallet works fine for me (tap and pay) I'm on ATT and it uses my CC

Alright, I will look into google wallet in Canada. I know it's accepted anywhere mastercard is accepted mainly.
I was just bummed that I went through a whole process of getting a NFC sim and my bank told me I can't do it haha.
thanks guys!

Mackie011 said:
Hey guys I have an NFC SIM and was hoping to use this phone as a tap to pay.
I called into my bank and they are saying the only phones that are supported are some samsung phones and the 9900.
Just wondering if there is any provider or way to use this as a tap to pay phone right now. I would much rather use that than bringing my wallet everywhere!
I am Canadian if it makes a difference, thanks a lot!
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As long as the software works with the nexus 6, it should work. I've done tap to pay here in the states with the HTC one m8, OPO, and the z2 (some readers don't like this phone).....

That's what I thought, when she said your phone is not supported I thought how could that be possible? If I have the sim that recognizes NFC it should work out just fine.
I will have to look into google wallet in canada, see if I can get it to work somehow!

maybe i'm misunderstanding, but NFC is built into the phone and has nothing to do with the SIM card, and that may be part of the problem of why it's not working (having 2 NFC chips trying to do the same thing).
just a theory with no evidence to support it.

Lucke said:
maybe i'm misunderstanding, but NFC is built into the phone and has nothing to do with the SIM card, and that may be part of the problem of why it's not working (having 2 NFC chips trying to do the same thing).
just a theory with no evidence to support it.
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ISIS/Softcard requires a special SIM card. Here is a photo of the one they sent me.

T-Mobile Device Unlock App Says Not Recognized by Service Provider

I had to send my phone into LG for repair. I am a Prepaid T-Mobile customer. Since I got the phone back, whenever I try to open the app to check on Permanent Unlock (as I have done temp in the past), the app get this error when Connecting to NetworkL:
Device not recognized by your service provider. Please call customer care.
Well, I tried using chat service on their website and all that resulted in was the person thinking they should send in an unlock request for me. I knew this was wrong. Next day I get an email from the unlock dept telling me to use the app
Since I figure people here tend to be smarter than a telco tech support person, I would ask here before pursuing this further with Tmo.
This is in fact the same phone I sent in...I checked the IMEI, etc. Using the same tmo sim card.
Any ideas?
Thanks

I have gone through this with T-Mobile and LG. Because you are prepaid there is no account for you at T-Mobile. According to them, the new rules are: you must be active (have an account), have either spent $100 on your account or have purchased $100 to be used on your account, and be active for 40 days. So you could borrow someone else's sim card that is in good standing, post paid, older than 40 days, and has had $100 spent or is in the account. YES, this is extortion at it's finest! The only other way would be to find a verified seller that has a money back guarantee, who is willing to unlock your phone for a fee. The cheapest legit one I saw on the internet was about $55. NOW, you can use MetroPCS, T-Mobile, and Simple Mobile sim cards without unlocking your phone because Metro and Simple are MVNO's (subsidiary carriers that use T-Mobile towers. You CAN'T use AT&T, Verizon, etc. BUT you can't switch from T-Mobile to Simple Mobile. You can switch from T-Mobile or Simple Mobile to MetroPCS. I did it.

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I have gone through this with T-Mobile and LG. Because you are prepaid there is no account for you at T-Mobile. According to them, the new rules are: you must be active (have an account), have either spent $100 on your account or have purchased $100 to be used on your account, and be active for 40 days. So you could borrow someone else's sim card that is in good standing, post paid, older than 40 days, and has had $100 spent or is in the account. YES, this is extortion at it's finest! The only other way would be to find a verified seller that has a money back guarantee, who is willing to unlock your phone for a fee. The cheapest legit one I saw on the internet was about $55. NOW, you can use MetroPCS, T-Mobile, and Simple Mobile sim cards without unlocking your phone because Metro and Simple are MVNO's (subsidiary carriers that use T-Mobile towers. You CAN'T use AT&T, Verizon, etc. BUT you can't switch from T-Mobile to Simple Mobile. You can switch from T-Mobile or Simple Mobile to MetroPCS. I did it.
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Hmm. I am sadly aware of tmo's FU to prepaid customers needing service, as I have experienced it as well.
But, before I sent it in this app did recognize my phone and would allow me to temp unlock. It is only since it came back from LG repair that it stopped working. This was a period of maybe 10 days.
One item I question, but imagine it is nothing is that under the battery next to the original label with IMEI, model, seriel, etc , they place another label that has a barcode with the imei numbers next to that LB (Leather Back). Above that is shows HB811LB, but then after that BT01 EU.
No idea what that was about but EU made me think Europe.

I am interested to know if and/or how you got this resolved. I am suffering the exact same issue with a T-Mobile LG V10 after sending it in for repair.

Same thing with me, i was able to get the prompt to temp or perm unlock before i sent my g4 off to LG. Phone came back same IMEI on sticker and on device after dialing *#06# I get the stupid message device not recognized by your service provider. Please contact customer care. I tried reinstalling the firmware, same firmware that was in there, didn't want to brick the phone again.... still nothing.

I had the same issue and Tech support ended up sending me a new device. I purchased a phone and it ended up failing during a software update and wouldn't boot. Had to send it into LG for repair. Got it back andnit wouldn't unlock with the same error. Tech Support had sent me a replacement device brand new not refurbished after about 2 phone calls complaining about it not recognizing my device in the unlock app.
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motive said:
I had the same issue and Tech support ended up sending me a new device. I purchased a phone and it ended up failing during a software update and wouldn't boot. Had to send it into LG for repair. Got it back andnit wouldn't unlock with the same error. Tech Support had sent me a replacement device brand new not refurbished after about 2 phone calls complaining about it not recognizing my device in the unlock app.
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Hmm nice to know, the only problem is i bought this phone from someone and I'm in Canada.

motive said:
I had the same issue and Tech support ended up sending me a new device. I purchased a phone and it ended up failing during a software update and wouldn't boot. Had to send it into LG for repair. Got it back andnit wouldn't unlock with the same error. Tech Support had sent me a replacement device brand new not refurbished after about 2 phone calls complaining about it not recognizing my device in the unlock app.
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Maybe I should call them again. Last time I tried they basically said FU to me. They repaired it and that was that. Frankly, the only thing keeping me with these TMO arses is that I have a super cheap prepaid plan they no longer offer.

Of course my concern with them replacing the phone is that the replacement could have any of the other various issues that this LG quality control clusterF*** has.
Thinking along the lines of it being my last LG product instead. Maybe even sell it now before the flood and use my little LG Leon backup phone I bought when I initially sent this one in for service.And Maybe tell TMO FOOO too.

Whatever LG is doing when they are flashing phones back to stock after them being bricked, is really messing up the phones. I sent out another one and the IMEI is clear fully paid off and the device unlock app is pulling the same ****. I'm not impressed. T-mobile won't unlock the phone either because i'm not the original owner. There is no block what so ever on the phone. PURE B.S on T-mobile and LG's part.

On the phone with LG now. So far getting the same run-around. He is actually calling TMO support because he simply won't believe they can't fix it.
If I don't get a replacement, I may be selling this phone, done with LG for good and ordering a Moto X Pure or something
I don't mind a screw up by a company, but you best stand behind your product properly or foo you and your company, IMO.
Results of call.....Total Failure. The LG person pawns me off on a TMO person who asks for my number so they can call back. Instead, they just transferred me to a TMO support idiot who had no idea whatsoever about what was going on. Really sick of both these company's Bull****. Pretty sure this is my last LG product ever.
Decided to try again using Chat.
So annoyed with LG and TMO right now I may sell the phone and buy a Nexus 6p and Foo to all LG products in the future.

I think it has to do with LG's firmware they install. Can't see what else it can be. After installing the stock 10n firmware still getting the same error. Not sure what i can do, most likely i'll be selling the phone on swappa.

Masaker514 said:
I think it has to do with LG's firmware they install. Can't see what else it can be. After installing the stock 10n firmware still getting the same error. Not sure what i can do, most likely i'll be selling the phone on swappa.
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Agreed. Something they are doing when they flash their firmware is causing the problem. It is NOT T-Mobile (albeit their quality of service for prepaid customers sucks ass
And that is fine if they fix the issue. Now they are just being ****tards and I have about had it.
All I can say is that after the quality control debacle of the G4, you'd have to be a fool to buy a G5. I know I won't

Barsky said:
Agreed. Something they are doing when they flash their firmware is causing the problem. It is NOT T-Mobile (albeit their quality of service for prepaid customers sucks ass
And that is fine if they fix the issue. Now they are just being ****tards and I have about had it
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The more i speak to t-mobile the more i hate them, who puts an unlock app on a phone? In Canada we buy a phone same day get an unlock code and call it a day. I'm sure people will be leaving t-mobile to go elsewhere.
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The more i speak to t-mobile the more i hate them, who puts an unlock app on a phone? In Canada we buy a phone same day get an unlock code and call it a day. I'm sure people will be leaving t-mobile to go elsewhere.
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It's because that crazy ass John Legarde is a jerkoff and this is their way of screwing over customers on Sim Unlocking. They actually put something in there that disallows the normal way of sim unlocking, if you put CM on your phone that will prompt for an unlock code (I bought one cheap).
T-Mobile is just simply an ASSHOLE company run by a human freak of nature

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It's because that crazy ass John Legarde is a jerkoff and this is their way of screwing over customers on Sim Unlocking. They actually put something in there that disallows the normal way of sim unlocking, if you put CM on your phone that will prompt for an unlock code (I bought one cheap).
T-Mobile is just simply an ASSHOLE company run by a human freak of nature
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I also heard that you cant root it put in the international rom, put in a foreign sim and it asks for an unlock code. After that the phone says unlocked but it actually isn't. I wish i knew for about development i'd tear one of the 2 phones apart and try to fet the partition that allows us to bypass the unlock.
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I also heard that you cant root it put in the international rom, put in a foreign sim and it asks for an unlock code. After that the phone says unlocked but it actually isn't. I wish i knew for about development i'd tear one of the 2 phones apart and try to fet the partition that allows us to bypass the unlock.
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Hah. Well, I am just trying to have it work being totally legit. It has nothing to do with rooting and romming, that much know as the problem existed right out of the box from them. Also, before the repair, the app work 100% rooted or not.

duplicate. my bad.
I always wonder why that button says Edit/Delete, but you can never delete them. :laugh:

Well, I just ordered a Nexus 6p with Project Fi. If I like it I will port my tmo number to it and be done with LG....since fi uses tmo, I will simply be done dealing with them directly.
Not sure I see any downsides to this

Hah, decided to make one last attempt with LG tech support, this time via email. Besides explaining to them why their initial reply was wrong, I also told them I have pretty much given up on future LG purchases and that I have a nexus 6p on the way to replace this phone. Just got another reply and supposedly he is kicking it up to his manager. We will see what happens, but I am not raising my expectations. Nothing says I can't cancel the nexus 6p.