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Nexus 7 screen

I got my Nexus 7 today (ordered it the 27th for those interested). Still setting it up and getting used to it, but....
I have to admit that I am not impressed with the screen, almost embarrassed to show the "flagship" of Google to any Apple fans. I realize that having 720p on my G-Nex and 720p on the Nexus 7 with it's larger screen will put the N7 at a disadvantage, but I guess I was shocked at how noticeable it was. Fonts in particular are pixely and faded looking in comparison to the rich blacks on the Gnex.
The other problem of the N7 vs Gnex screens is the white balance, contrast, and saturation setting appear to vastly different. I think the white balance is probably more true to life on the N7, but the colors are just not as vivid as I would like to see. The blacks look grey in comparison to the Gnex.
As a couch surfing, digital mag reading, picture reviewing (using eyefi card) device for me, this is quite a bummer.
Guess I just have to hope for a Nexus 10 with uber resolution.

And you do realize the base price is 199.......
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What is this, the 5th thread about complaining about the screen? It's $200-250, people!

Bhatch said:
I got my Nexus 7 today (ordered it the 27th for those interested). Still setting it up and getting used to it, but....
I have to admit that I am not impressed with the screen, almost embarrassed to show the "flagship" of Google to any Apple fans. I realize that having 720p on my G-Nex and 720p on the Nexus 7 with it's larger screen will put the N7 at a disadvantage, but I guess I was shocked at how noticeable it was. Fonts in particular are pixely and faded looking in comparison to the rich blacks on the Gnex.
The other problem of the N7 vs Gnex screens is the white balance, contrast, and saturation setting appear to vastly different. I think the white balance is probably more true to life on the N7, but the colors are just not as vivid as I would like to see. The blacks look grey in comparison to the Gnex.
As a couch surfing, digital mag reading, picture reviewing (using eyefi card) device for me, this is quite a bummer.
Guess I just have to hope for a Nexus 10 with uber resolution.
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When I first received my N7 i was feeling the same way. Mines looked washed out but after a couple of hours of using the screen looks better. I know, weird

Bhatch said:
I got my Nexus 7 today (ordered it the 27th for those interested). Still setting it up and getting used to it, but....
I have to admit that I am not impressed with the screen, almost embarrassed to show the "flagship" of Google to any Apple fans. I realize that having 720p on my G-Nex and 720p on the Nexus 7 with it's larger screen will put the N7 at a disadvantage, but I guess I was shocked at how noticeable it was. Fonts in particular are pixely and faded looking in comparison to the rich blacks on the Gnex.
The other problem of the N7 vs Gnex screens is the white balance, contrast, and saturation setting appear to vastly different. I think the white balance is probably more true to life on the N7, but the colors are just not as vivid as I would like to see. The blacks look grey in comparison to the Gnex.
As a couch surfing, digital mag reading, picture reviewing (using eyefi card) device for me, this is quite a bummer.
Guess I just have to hope for a Nexus 10 with uber resolution.
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What did you HONESTLY expect for the $199-$249.00 price?
I like the screen. HIgh PPI, it's wonderful for reading and very comfortable to look at.

Tell Apple homies that the screen is double retina. They can't tell.
Also, no issues with the screen here.

I'm with the OP...after reading all of the praise from the reviews I guess I just expected better. Its fine...certainly better than my Galaxy Tab Plus 7.0 but not in the same stratosphere as my Galaxy Nexus...Galaxy S3...or of course my iPad 3. I really only bought it to hack and play a few games and read a few books so its not that big of a deal but I guess the hype got the best of me. Oh well. You guys are right...250 bucks.

Well sure it's not deep black when screen on N7 is LCD, the one on Gnex is Super Amoled that is different.
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I feel the same way about the display but then I remember I could have bought 2 or so of the N7s. I am very satisfied. I don't like the chrome browser because I can't yet get it to work the way I want, I can't set the home page or auto clear cache
Bhatch said:
I got my Nexus 7 today (ordered it the 27th for those interested). Still setting it up and getting used to it, but....
I have to admit that I am not impressed with the screen, almost embarrassed to show the "flagship" of Google to any Apple fans. I realize that having 720p on my G-Nex and 720p on the Nexus 7 with it's larger screen will put the N7 at a disadvantage, but I guess I was shocked at how noticeable it was. Fonts in particular are pixely and faded looking in comparison to the rich blacks on the Gnex.
The other problem of the N7 vs Gnex screens is the white balance, contrast, and saturation setting appear to vastly different. I think the white balance is probably more true to life on the N7, but the colors are just not as vivid as I would like to see. The blacks look grey in comparison to the Gnex.
As a couch surfing, digital mag reading, picture reviewing (using eyefi card) device for me, this is quite a bummer.
Guess I just have to hope for a Nexus 10 with uber resolution.
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You also have to understand that you are comparing an IPS LCD panel to Super AMOLED. AMOLED displays are know for their over-the-top contrast and very high color saturation, producing extremely deep blacks, yet as some say "very unrealistic colors".
You should not be too embarrassed. The Nexus 7 has a higher PPI than the majority of tablets out there, higher than both previous generations iPads. Though, it cannot be compared to the high PPI of the high-end Android devices of today. It is quite odd for you to have expected this to be comparable to these devices. Before purchasing this device, I'm sure you should have noticed that it had a mere 216 ppi compared to the 316 on your Galaxy Nexus.

It does look a bit washed out, but overall I'm really happy with the device as a whole.
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Eclair~ said:
You also have to understand that you are comparing an IPS LCD panel to Super AMOLED. AMOLED displays are know for their over-the-top contrast and very high color saturation, producing extremely deep blacks, yet as some say "very unrealistic colors".
You should not be too embarrassed. The Nexus 7 has a higher PPI than the majority of tablets out there, higher than both previous generations iPads. Though, it cannot be compared to the high PPI of the high-end Android devices of today. It is quite odd for you to have expected this to be comparable to these devices. Before purchasing this device, I'm sure you should have noticed that it had a mere 216 ppi compared to the 316 on your Galaxy Nexus.
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Completely correct here. It's the differing technologies.

It may look a bit washed out, but the resolution is pretty good imo. I'm coming from a Nook Tablet though, not an iPad.

lol. You can't blame the OP for noticing. I have a S II and it is obviously superb in screen quality but I don't care cause the Nexus 7 is just that badass.

OP here
Definitely getting used to it, but it would be nice if the two devices matched white balance a bit more, kinda weird going back and forth. I have three monitors at work and they had different whites for awhile and it would screw with my eyes. It was nice once I got them dialed into match a bit more.
My biggest issue with pixels was the font's and for some reason they look fine in Maps, but in Gmail they look a bit grey and pixely.
After a day of comparing Gnex to N7 I kinda wish could blend the screens together so they were both somewhere in the middle color wise. Little more color and black on the N7 and perhaps a touch less saturation on the Gnex, but leave the black as is. The blacks on the Gnex are awesome.
Happy with the device overall, but I'll keep this thread purely about the screen.

i took my chevy malibu back to the dealer because it didnt drive like my last GT2 porche.

18t said:
i took my chevy malibu back to the dealer because it didnt drive like my last GT2 porche.
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lol. Nice example. Did the Malibu not have extreme acceleration?
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18t said:
i took my chevy malibu back to the dealer because it didnt drive like my last GT2 porche.
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What's a porche
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op.. sorry but you still don't seem to understand the difference between super amoled and IPS. they each have their advantages and sometimes it comes down to preference. The important thing is to know what you're getting into as a consumer. now it's clear you prefer the high saturation of amoled. so do I (have a gnex as well). As others already mentioned, there is also a significant difference in ppi and price of the two devices. it's up to you to determine the balance of price vs features that suit your needs/preferences. Most people will agree that for this price range, it's hard to beat and is actually quite impressive.
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Funny, my reaction was just the opposite. for $250 it was much better than I expected.

Boy do I miss the blacks...

I'm guessing many N4 owners were previously using an S3, Galaxy Nexus, Note (like me) or any other device with an amoled display. I just compared my screen (On the Clock app in night mode) with my dad's One S side by side and although I knew the blacks would never be as good on the N4, it hit me hard - the blacks suck.
I guess that can sound very wrong if taken out of context but in my opinion LG could have done better here, I'd like to hear what you guys think.
Not that it will change anything but a pointless conversation between some black screen enthusiasts - what else is the internet for anyway?
Shaizer out.

No. Just stop.

AshtonTS said:
No. Just stop.
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kindly elaborate

IMHO, I think you've gotten too used to AMOLED screens.
But, you do notice the non pentile? The more natural colors? Brighter display?
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Shaizer said:
I'm guessing many N4 owners were previously using an S3, Galaxy Nexus, Note (like me) or any other device with an amoled display. I just compared my screen (On the Clock app in night mode) with my dad's One S side by side and although I knew the blacks would never be as good on the N4, it hit me hard - the blacks suck.
I guess that can sound very wrong if taken out of context but in my opinion LG could have done better here, I'd like to hear what you guys think.
Not that it will change anything but a pointless conversation between some black screen enthusiasts - what else is the internet for anyway?
Shaizer out.
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Just warning you but all the fanboys are going to flame you for posting any criticism, regardless of how true it may be. Brace yourself it had already begun.
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Guess you never ran the black color test to see how bad gradients were on the Note/s3
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Once you go AMOLED black, you never go back

gagdude said:
IMHO, I think you've gotten too used to AMOLED screens.
But, you do notice the non pentile? The more natural colors? Brighter display?
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I got over the colours a while ago, the N4 does seem much more natural and premium but the issue here is the black - I can see it when I turn my lights off - probably will take some more time to get used to that.

Shaizer said:
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It's an LCD. You knew that when you bought the phone. No need to make another thread complaining about some aspect of this phone, especially something not specific to this phone in any way at all

phositadc said:
Just warning you but all the fanboys are going to flame you for posting any criticism, regardless of how true it may be. Brace yourself it had already begun.
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Haha I don't believe in taboos, I live and feed on internet controversy. I highly doubt anyone can say they prefer the N4 IPS black to amoled black, colours are a different argument but blacks - hands down amoled.

You're wrong in guessing that most people came from an AMOLED screen. I am coming from a One X and the LCDs are beautiful. To each his own.

There are pros and cons to both technologies. *shrug*
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2 more to the list.

your complaining about a physical constraint of an IPS panel. You can't compare amoled black because it doesn't produce black, its just off.
I'm more happy that I no longer have screen burn in and my movies don't ghost.
Edit: if you compare this IPS to maybe the iPhone IPS then we can have a discussion
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phositadc said:
Just warning you but all the fanboys are going to flame you for posting any criticism, regardless of how true it may be. Brace yourself it had already begun.
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criticism of an already known fact.
the OP stresses an advantage of AMOLEDs and dismisses the various great aspects of LCDs like sharpness, bright display, less power consumption.. etc. he should have known what he was sacrificing when he chose to buy a phone with an LCD display. pointless thread.

The blacks are about as good as it gets on an LCD, TBH. They'll never be as good as AMOLED and if that's important to you then just stick with AMOLED. I've found that I spend a very small amount of time looking at screens with predominantly dark backgrounds, while I spend way more time looking at screens with white backgrounds, like webpages. And the whites on AMOLED are sickly looking.

After a year of having the GNex I can definitively say I like the display on the n4 much better. I am still using a solid black background on my n4 and the blacks seem plenty black to me. Putting them side by side I can definitely see a slight difference in black level but overall the n4 display looks better.

this thread is bordering on the edge of racism methinks!
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I miss the real blacks from the galaxy nexus, but this one is great too.
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phositadc said:
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I'm coming from a Galaxy S with an AMOLED then a S2 with an AMOLED over the last two and a half years. This screen looks wonderful to me. I haven't sat down and examined the difference between the two screens in different conditions, and tested it or whatever else, but I am quite happy with the screen. I don't think I'm just being a fanboy here and rather being realistic, and I've showed my friends too and they can't see anything wrong with the Nexus' screen.

The Nexus 4 has one of the WORST screens ever! even with calibrated roms!

Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!

The viewing angles really aren't the best but the screen itself when you look straight at it is pretty good in my opinion.
But thanks for your 2 cents!

You should sell it to me for a good price
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rest0ck said:
The viewing angles really aren't the best but the screen itself when you look straight at it is pretty good in my opinion.
But thanks for your 2 cents!
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Yes, with the custom rom that I installed the colors improved a lot, but the viewing angles remained terrible! what I really dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the optimus G right? the OG had GREAT viewing angles! how can this be??

On principle I too think the viewing angles are unacceptable....I was shocked when I saw them really. Reviews seemed to gloss over them and some had the nerve to say they were good. lulz No.
With all that being said when I wasn't testing the viewing angles and just used the phone as I normally world, the screen looked good, if not a little washed out.
I only had it for a day then sold it.
So yeah, they suck when you look for them but straight on as I imagine most use thier phone, its all good.
I have a Note 2 but still tempted to have stock goodness along side. How much are you selling yours for out of curiosity?
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ferrojasaguilar said:
Yes, with the custom rom that I installed the colors improved a lot, but the viewing angles remained terrible! what I really dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the optimus G right? the OG had GREAT viewing angles! how can this be??
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Well ... All i can say is.
Price will not lie ...

Got 2 release ones here. Lovely screens, best ive ever had with great viewing angles.
Guess LG changed production after losing too much money.

Definitely worse than my mytouch 3g.
In all seriousness, its a $300 phone, so you get what u pay for. viewing angle is not a problem with me if I look at it from straight ahead, and there's utilities to change the color and gamma.
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ferrojasaguilar said:
Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!
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Sorry to burst bubble but any phone made by samsung is not high end...expensive doesnt mean high end...and I wouldnt consider 5 to be many also..
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ferris2375 said:
On principle I too think the viewing angles are unacceptable....I was shocked when I saw them really. Reviews seemed to gloss over them and some had the nerve to say they were good. lulz No.
With all that being said when I wasn't testing the viewing angles and just used the phone as I normally world, the screen looked good, if not a little washed out.
I only had it for a day then sold it.
So yeah, they suck when you look for them but straight on as I imagine most use thier phone, its all good.
I have a Note 2 but still tempted to have stock goodness along side. How much are you selling yours for out of curiosity?
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Wanna trade?? LOL

pak-stars said:
Sorry to burst bubble but any phone made by samsung is not high end...expensive doesnt mean high end...and I wouldnt consider 5 to be many also..
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Well i have a Droid Dna, i had an iphone 5... Are those high end enough for you? Every one of those destroys the nexus 4 screen. Thats MY opinion.

ferrojasaguilar said:
Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!
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Imma mad too about viewing angles I want someone on the elevator to be able to read off the screen and when my boys are over its too hard for eight of us to watch netflix together off my phone.
They better fix this with ota
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weird. my viewing angles are great. the screen is at least on par with iphones after its calibrated. its hard to even look at my gs2 screen after using this, i wonder how i used it for a whole year

What app do you use to calibrate the screen?
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What app do you use to calibrate the screen?
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Well someone recomended I install the PARANOID ANDROID 3.1 Rom along with the contrasty/bright kernels. Colors definetely improved, but viewing angles remained terrible...

Please go post your opinions on your blog or in the comment section of Engadget.
I've also closed your thread in Optimus G General.

No more screen color posts!

Hi,
As unappealing as it is, our Nexus 4 has an IPS screen instead of an AMOLED screen, which in turn uses a lot more battery (black lights up to show you black, instead of turning off the pixel like on AMOLED), and doesn't give you the options needed to control your screen to display the right color.
Comparing to a stock HTC One S, which has AMOLED, red is dark red, green is too dull, gray has a lot more black, and black is dark blue. There is just no possible way to get out of this.
Even when I turned Green and Blue to 0, and set Red to 255, not to mention going to gamma and setting those to the proper options, so that the screen only shows red, it still shows dark red instead of the real red that the AMOLED screen produces.
So stop complaining, and either buy an AMOLED phone (any samsung) or try and replace the phone's screen with an AMOLED one.
If you want to test the values in the SPREADSHEET thread, be my guest, but I've literally tried every single value in there and red just doesn't feel red, and green is always dull. We just have to live with it.

can you really buy an amoled screen for your nexus ??
can you show me a link i wanna try

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can you really buy an amoled screen for your nexus ??
can you show me a link i wanna try
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lol no, but if you discovered a method please do tell us, i wouldn't mind doing it

*shrug* I personally feel the IPS display on the Nexus 4 does a much better job at displaying more true to life colors than any Amoled phone I've used before. But to each their own.
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Nothing like starting a new thread about something you do not want others to post about. Makes so much sense.
You are also probably the person who copies all in an email to say do not copy all. Of course after 40 other people did the same thing.

my previous phone was a GS3, the oversaturated colors of AMOLED panels might look nice in some cases, but the colors are not realistic, whites are never whites, they are grey, a lot of tinting and smearing problems, a very big chance of burn-in and ghosting problems even if you take care of your devices (happened to my galaxy nexus even though i used minimal brightness levels and 15sec screen-off, my burn in was under the notification and Navbar area). So IMO, and based on my own experience with AMOLED displays, i'd take an IPS LCD panel everytime.
Concerning our nexus 4 in particular, i've found that it depends from one device to another, my nexus 4 has absolutely an amazing display, beautiful colors, i'd say it's comparable to displays on HTC phones. Everytime i'd see a thread complaining about the display, washed out colors etc.. , i'd think it's just another troll. Then i saw my friend's phone, and damn those colors were really dull.
Another thing is , another friend and i have issues with delayed notifications over wifi, the friend with dull-colors-phone doesn't have it.
Conclusion: not all problems are present on all devices, it's very unfair to generalize. Maybe your display is on the "bad side" , or maybe your are used to AMOLED displays and actually like them more. It's a matter of personal taste.

An untuned ips screen just makes the device feel low end and cheap. Much like a cheap acer tablet, an untuned screen of a nexus 10 looks like crap. With an amoled screen it feels vivid and pleasing to the eye, sunsets in movies feel warmer and scenes look much more dramatic. Its not about how close something looks like in real life, its about immersing yourself in a more vivid experience. Amoled and ips screen with color enhancement all day.

Thread title: stop complaining!
OP: complaining
Lesson: WAT?
Anyway I'm tired of glorifying cartoonish pentile amoled displays. Sureal colors, yellow-grayish whites, almost no visibility under sunlight... I do a little photo editing, and comparing amoled and ips it's almost impossible. LCD provides better viewing angles, brightness (whites on the n4 are superb), and true colors (on amoled photos look like they've been applied thousand filters, over saturated).
N4, Cataclysm+Franco

first of all, i only made this thread to stop this chaos and to stop those annoying people who complain about it.
Also, I'm not complaining about anything, i love my screen, i think it's a definite improvement from the desire z that i used to own. But again this thread is meant to stop other users from making threads like this, and just live with it.
so the lesson isn't "WAT", and OP isn't "complaining"... the lesson is the title.
thank you.
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first of all, i only made this thread to stop this chaos and to stop those annoying people who complain about it.
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You made a thread to stop people complaining, by making a thread for people to complain in .
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lol!
people are people, they will complain no matter what. just like you are doing, and you even started/wasted a thread with your complaint

Idk why people buy the n4 if they dont like IPS i bought the n4 and i WANTED a IPS display i dont want amocrap... 5 minutes on a s3 and my eyes are bleeding...
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I think some of the people is comparing our so called IPS screen to other IPS screens, not AMOLED.
The screen in Nexus 4 is less colorful than the other LG IPS screen phone, which are all produced from LG.
IMO our screen is indeed "worse" than the one LG uses in their flagship phones.

simms22 said:
lol!
people are people, they will complain no matter what. just like you are doing, and you even started/wasted a thread with your complaint
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again, this isn't a complaint. and if people wanna complain, then do it in this single thread, it's certainly better than every user creating a thread for it.
ruzkay said:
Idk why people buy the n4 if they dont like IPS i bought the n4 and i WANTED a IPS display i dont want amocrap... 5 minutes on a s3 and my eyes are bleeding...
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i bought a nexus 4 because of the dev support, the fast updates, and the stock android. but i got stuck with an IPS screen... who cares anyway, i love it
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i bought a nexus 4 because of the dev support, the fast updates, and the stock android. but i got stuck with an IPS screen... who cares anyway, i love it
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A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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Nexus 4 has a really nice display IMO..

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again, this isn't a complaint. and if people wanna complain, then do it in this single thread, it's certainly better than every user creating a thread for it.
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i just read your post again.. sounds to me like youre complaining about people posting about screen color.
now, not everyone wants to adjust their sceeen color to look like an samoled. some people just want to adjust the tone/gamma, to be more pleasing to their eyes. some do want to make it look like an amoled(which we know isnt possible). even though its impossible to make our screens to look like samoleds, it is possible to adjust them so colors will appear more vivid, have more "pop". of course its not going to be the same as an samoled, but it will appear closer. why does it bother you so much that these people want to do that? as you know, what you might feel as appealing might not be appealing to others, or vice versa. and yes, all our n4 screens variate as well. some of the variations ive seen id change the screen colors/gamma to anything besides what it came with default. personally, im happy with mine screen color

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I think some of the people is comparing our so called IPS screen to other IPS screens, not AMOLED.
The screen in Nexus 4 is less colorful than the other LG IPS screen phone, which are all produced from LG.
IMO our screen is indeed "worse" than the one LG uses in their flagship phones.
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So root it, flash custom kernel and load color profile you like. I agree stock colors are washed out but now it's on pair with iphone5
CM 10.2 + franco

rayiskon said:
A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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galaxy nexus' white color is pure yellow, i've compared it directly to my stock screen colors.
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i just read your post again.. sounds to me like youre complaining about people posting about screen color.
now, not everyone wants to adjust their sceeen color to look like an samoled. some people just want to adjust the tone/gamma, to be more pleasing to their eyes. some do want to make it look like an amoled(which we know isnt possible). even though its impossible to make our screens to look like samoleds, it is possible to adjust them so colors will appear more vivid, have more "pop". of course its not going to be the same as an samoled, but it will appear closer. why does it bother you so much that these people want to do that? as you know, what you might feel as appealing might not be appealing to others, or vice versa. and yes, all our n4 screens variate as well. some of the variations ive seen id change the screen colors/gamma to anything besides what it came with default. personally, im happy with mine screen color
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ok... I'll shut up
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rayiskon said:
A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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In my opinion, the GNEX screen was one of the worst screens I have seen...

The "Supposed" washed out screen on the N5

For those saying the N5 has a washed out screen i advise you to watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlNcuBcnnoU
The N5 has a top notch screen, the viewing angles are abit off but the actual quality is amazing! It clearly outclasses the Xperia Z1, a £450+ phone which only got released recently, and the screen on that is meant to be an improvement on its predecessor the Z1, I feel sorry for the people who bought that O.O

GalaxySN00B:0 said:
For those saying the N5 has a washed out screen i advise you to watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlNcuBcnnoU
The N5 has a top notch screen, the viewing angles are abit off but the actual quality is amazing! It clearly outclasses the Xperia Z1, a £450+ phone which only got released recently, and the screen on that is meant to be an improvement on its predecessor the Z1, I feel sorry for the people who bought that O.O
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To say that the N5's screen is great because it's better than the Z1's isn't saying a whole lot. That's like calling yourself fast bc you're only the 3 slowest kid in gym class. I've had both phones and still currently have my N5. I do find the N5 screen to be dull compared to most phones I've used and compared. That being said, as you raise the brightness the screen does look much nicer. It seems the brightness levels have more to do with it than the actual quality of the screen. The Z1 is a great phone but one plagued by terrible viewing angles. The screen which is still quite nice, isn't the best part of the phone so I wouldn't use it as a base of comparison to build up the N5's screen. I don't put a lot of weight into those "complaint threads" because the phone costs $349-$400, for what you pay you get a pretty good phone.
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A lot of people confuse over saturation as a nice screen and natural as dull. Since you can't really test the difference on a phone, if your TV has a standard or vivid mode then throw it on that. Then throw the TV into movie mode. It would look dull at first but that is the closest picture to a calibrated level you will get out of the box. Once your eyes adjust to that picture, then try going back to standard mode. You will never be able to watch an over saturated fake picture again.
Look at the picture in a movie theater, you can call that dull as well but these is what natural and real life look like.
Now, if they boosted up the contrast, that would improve the screen.

looks like we need someone with calibration equipment to do some testing. i mean compared to a samsung with whatever the latest iteration of amoled screen most do look dull. that doesn't mean the samsung is better. samsung tends to artificailly over saturate the colors and they usually have a high color temp and sometimes a green tint.
any photographers or printers out there willing to test the screen?

Dani897 said:
looks like we need someone with calibration equipment to do some testing. i mean compared to a samsung with whatever the latest iteration of amoled screen most do look dull. that doesn't mean the samsung is better. samsung tends to artificailly over saturate the colors and they usually have a high color temp and sometimes a green tint.
any photographers or printers out there willing to test the screen?
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I'm really looking forward to the inevitable Anandtech review of this phone. Their reviews are almost absurdly detailed and they have lots of great, objective data.

Next to my Moto X and Note 3, my Nexus 5 DOES look washed out. That's the AMOLED effect.
I compared it to both my Nexus 7 and iPad Air and it looks almost identical. Almost every review I have seen claims that it is "washed out", but I'm beginning to think it's just a color neutral LCD screen.
Angeloftech (check out her youtube channel) does some very extensive screen tests in her reviews and talks about the calibration and what the numbers mean. She hasn't released her Nexus 5 review yet, but I suspect it's due any day. That will give us a little better indication of what this screen is about. For example, she called out the LG G2 as being oversaturated and nowhere near accurate. That screen looks great to me, but the tests don't lie. I think we have just become accustomed to oversaturated screens and it's skewing our perspective a little.

The colours are fine it's the white balance that's off it's too warm.

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Next to my Moto X and Note 3, my Nexus 5 DOES look washed out. That's the AMOLED effect.
I compared it to both my Nexus 7 and iPad Air and it looks almost identical. Almost every review I have seen claims that it is "washed out", but I'm beginning to think it's just a color neutral LCD screen.
Angeloftech (check out her youtube channel) does some very extensive screen tests in her reviews and talks about the calibration and what the numbers mean. She hasn't released her Nexus 5 review yet, but I suspect it's due any day. That will give us a little better indication of what this screen is about. For example, she called out the LG G2 as being oversaturated and nowhere near accurate. That screen looks great to me, but the tests don't lie. I think we have just become accustomed to oversaturated screens and it's skewing our perspective a little.
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You can have a "natural" colors and still have a "dull" or washed out screen. This isn't simply a case of AMOLED over saturation vs N5 and it's "natural" colors. My HTC Butterfly to me has the best screen I've seen. Mind you I own a 5S, Note 3, Butterfly S and N5 all currently. Its color reproduction, saturation, viewing angles and clarity to me best the others. The N5's colors are closer to "natural " then AMOLEDS however that being said is still on the dull side. The note has a clear, bright screen and tends to have improved the cartoonish saturation effect especially when in Movie Mode. Overall I think the N5's screen is OK but not my favorite.
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Her reviews make many of the big boys look like novice fanboys. She does in depth testing with LOTS of real world use reports. She takes the time to actually use these things and not be the first out the door with a review. Most importantly, she will put the screen under a scope so we can see what is going on. The nexus 5 screen to me looks amazing, very reminiscent of the calibration apple uses. Compared o the broken calibration that was the nexus 4, I think it is great.
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Nexus 5 is coming with 2 different panels
There are users who ordered 2 phones and these are different screen, one of them washed colors and yellow whites and the other is more cold and real whites like nexus 4
I prefer nexus 4 cause white is real white not sepia
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fjavierm said:
Nexus 5 is coming with 2 different panels
There are users who ordered 2 phones and these are different screen, one of them washed colors and yellow whites and the other is more cold and real whites like nexus 4
I prefer nexus 4 cause white is real white not sepia
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This wouldn't entirely surprise me. I've been scratching my heads about the threads about the yellow whites. I believe some people are experiencing it, especially since people have provided pictures. The white on my phone is a neutral or slightly cool white.

No yellow colors here. my xperia t has a more yellowish screen + is washed out a lot more

As far as I have used this device for a week, it seems color temperature is a bit too high. I hope there will be some kernels that has color temperature options.

Dani897 said:
looks like we need someone with calibration equipment to do some testing. i mean compared to a samsung with whatever the latest iteration of amoled screen most do look dull. that doesn't mean the samsung is better. samsung tends to artificailly over saturate the colors and they usually have a high color temp and sometimes a green tint.
any photographers or printers out there willing to test the screen?
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There was already a calibration test done. There is a link somewhere in one of these threads. It tested that the N5 had the closest colors to reference out of all the phones they tested. Maybe someone will find the link and post it here. They also tested brightness and contrast.
It was the contest that is scored towards the bottom of all the phones they tested.

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Next to my Moto X and Note 3, my Nexus 5 DOES look washed out. That's the AMOLED effect.
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Exactly. You can't go comparing Amoled against ISP. There two totally different technologies. When I compare the N5 to other ISP phones mine looks pretty damn good. Like any LCD though I will calibrate it to my taste once the kernels allow for that. This whole thread is literally "in the eye of the beholder."

I've seen 2 different Nexus 5 units here in Canada (at Virgin Mobile kiosks) and in both cases the colors were accurate and very good, though the
whites are a slight bit on the yellowish/warm side. Compared to an iPhone 5S, the whites on the 5S are brighter and cooler.
Well, the good news is that franco kernel is well under development (according to the original nexus development thread) and once it's complete, we should be able to use his app (Display Control) to calibrate the screen if we want to.

Here are a couple of tests run on the N5 and some other flagships and the results. Link pulled from another thread here.
http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...s-schermkwaliteit-scherp-en-dik-in-orde.html

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Here are a couple of tests run on the N5 and some other flagships and the results. Link pulled from another thread here.
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//tweakers.net/reviews/3298/7/google-nexus-5-toptelefoon-met-scherpe-prijs-schermkwaliteit-scherp-en-dik-in-orde.html%0A
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Lol I read the article and wondered why it was written in English but read like the auther was drunk until I saw the web address and saw translate. Good read though, points are easily understood and sum up the comments of most.
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i think comparing the Z1 to N5 isnt fair anyway.
So what if the screen on the N5 is technically better? I've used both and...i didnt think the Z1 screen was that bad really. And viewing angles?
How many people use a personal device tilted to the sides? Most people are going to be looking straight at the thing when they're using it, 100% for me, it's a personal device and i'd be rather happy if others couldnt see whats on the screen.
And also "the Xperia Z1, a £450+ phone which only got released recently, and the screen on that is meant to be an improvement on its predecessor the Z1, I feel sorry for the people who bought that O.O"
really.
Feel sorry for the people who bought a very solid and well build phone?
Feel sorry for the people who dont have rattling buttons?
Feel sorry for the people who can happily drop it down a toilet and still have a functioning phone?
Feel sorry for the people who have a camera that's superbly better than the nexus 5?
Well done there mate.