Hey guys,
I got my N4 8G last week on Friday and the first what I saw when the CPU gets a little bit warmer (during Benchmarks or heavy use)
I can see a ugly Yellow spot on the Screen near where the CPU sits, as seen on ifixit.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4ESb_YBhAxITkd0SExNLUNablk
Did any of you guys have the same issue or should I replace the phone as soon as they are available again?
kabauterman said:
CPU gets a little bit warmer (during Benchmarks or heavy use)
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I don't get this trend with warm CPUs. My Galaxy Nexus used to get really hot sometimes but it never had any impact on screen quality, didn't make yellow spots or anything else.
Yesterday, I was charging the N4, while streaming and HD movie at full screen brightness. Nothing. Wasn't warm. Neither was it warm when I ran three benchmarks after one another.
Try turning on FORCE GPU RENDERING in Developer Options.
DonJuan89 said:
I don't get this trend with warm CPUs. My Galaxy Nexus used to get really hot sometimes but it never had any impact on screen quality, didn't make yellow spots or anything else.
Yesterday, I was charging the N4, while streaming and HD movie at full screen brightness. Nothing. Wasn't warm. Neither was it warm when I ran three benchmarks after one another.
Try turning on FORCE GPU RENDERING in Developer Options.
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Either you are trolling or are completely oblivious to temperature changes. This phone gets really hot, because LG doesn't know crap about proper thermal design. Google was stupid not to choose Sony for this Nexus, but I'm assuming they're waiting for Sony to use Quad Cores. I'm confident that the next Nexus phone will be a Sony. I can't wait.
InvalidUsername said:
Either you are trolling or are completely oblivious to temperature changes. This phone gets really hot, because LG doesn't know crap about proper thermal design.
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you must have another phone as i have. My N4 doesn't get warm, not with benchmarks, movies or while loading.
My n4 gets warm, but not hot, and i dont see any changes in screen
Chrisch-RT said:
you must have another phone as i have. My N4 doesn't get warm, not with benchmarks, movies or while loading.
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thats strange, mine get pretty hot! Mostly while loading or benchmarks but also just on Chrome or normal use
Maybe I realy need to replace it by Google.
kabauterman said:
thats strange, mine get pretty hot! Mostly while loading or benchmarks but also just on Chrome or normal use
Maybe I realy need to replace it by Google.
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No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
InvalidUsername said:
No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
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yeah its getting "warm" but not hot like you say. My N4 reaches maybe the same temp like my HTC One S.
InvalidUsername said:
No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
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Hot/Warm or whatever = OK usual and maybe custom Kernels with UV will fix
but my Yellow screen spot is not OK I think so far..
kabauterman said:
Hot/Warm or whatever = OK usual and maybe custom Kernels with UV will fix
but my Yellow screen spot is not OK I think so far..
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I agree. I would let Google know immediately, and demand that they let me keep the phone while they get me a new one.
InvalidUsername said:
No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
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Mine does get warm, but not hot, and I don't have any yellow display or throttling issues...but now, just because you said it, its sweating too!
Aaaah....this i-know-everything kids...
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PS. Probably you have to cope with the idea of a defective device
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InvalidUsername said:
Either you are trolling or are completely oblivious to temperature changes. This phone gets really hot, because LG doesn't know crap about proper thermal design. Google was stupid not to choose Sony for this Nexus, but I'm assuming they're waiting for Sony to use Quad Cores. I'm confident that the next Nexus phone will be a Sony. I can't wait.
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Yeah, no. Not trolling. Mine just doesn't get hot. Turning on Force GPU Rendering solved that same issue when I was having it with the Gnex. Force GPU takes load of the CPU, so it doesn't get hot.
I don't know what else to tell you, it's just doesn't get warm/hot for me.
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InvalidUsername said:
No, they all do the exact same thing. Like I said, anyone who claims that theirs doesn't get warm is either a) completely oblivious to heat, b) is a serious Google/LG fanboy, or c) is trolling for the sake of trolling.
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Dude, why don't you just chill. And while you're chilling, pick up a new phone while you're at it since your's is getting hot.
And "completely oblivious to heat"? Right now, I can tell you that it's 10C outside in Berlin and it's a big difference to when it was 35C. Seems to me like you're just making a big deal out of a little heating. It's a quad core processor, what do you expect?
InvalidUsername said:
Either you are trolling or are completely oblivious to temperature changes. This phone gets really hot, because LG doesn't know crap about proper thermal design. Google was stupid not to choose Sony for this Nexus, but I'm assuming they're waiting for Sony to use Quad Cores. I'm confident that the next Nexus phone will be a Sony. I can't wait.
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The Phone gets hot because the CPU burns allot of energy is has bothing to do with the phone design.
The main problem is that google totally f****d up CPU power management, why it the CPU locked at 1Ghz when the screen is on, why does it scale to 1.5 GHz when you touch the screen?? which results in swyping and typing killing the battery.
wurzelsepp3 said:
The Phone gets hot because the CPU burns allot of energy is has bothing to do with the phone design.
The main problem is that google totally f****d up CPU power management, why it the CPU locked at 1Ghz when the screen is on, why does it scale to 1.5 GHz when you touch the screen?? which results in swyping and typing killing the battery.
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thats another point, I think the Kernel is not in a perfect state for now but updates will come and custom Kernels will come
so this is not the main problem for me
wurzelsepp3 said:
The Phone gets hot because the CPU burns allot of energy is has bothing to do with the phone design.
The main problem is that google totally f****d up CPU power management, why it the CPU locked at 1Ghz when the screen is on, why does it scale to 1.5 GHz when you touch the screen?? which results in swyping and typing killing the battery.
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I'm pretty sure that's because of Project Butter. I'd take a little heat for some better performance/visuals any day.
Not sure what the issue is here. My GDS got hot when gaming, charging, etc asvdoes my nexus 7, my laptop, my pic and every other device I have ever owned.
The issue though is the great really causing some type of an issue with the glue? I would guess they would know but then again who knows..
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wurzelsepp3 said:
The Phone gets hot because the CPU burns allot of energy is has bothing to do with the phone design.
The main problem is that google totally f****d up CPU power management, why it the CPU locked at 1Ghz when the screen is on, why does it scale to 1.5 GHz when you touch the screen?? which results in swyping and typing killing the battery.
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Are you serious? Unless you are an android Dev or someone in the know with these services then I think you are just making some type of an uneducated assumption. Really, no offense intended.
Are you an so Dev, android Dev or do you have any expert agreement on this?
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Google had the very best engineers, etc on their payroll. I highly doubt they would miss something and someone with no experience would figure it out. who knows though, maybe you are a top kernal coder or something..
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Haven't done the yellow spot test yet. So can't tell.
The way I do the test: Install StabilityTest, set screen brightness to 100%, run CPU+GPU Test, wrap phone in a blanket and try get the temperature to 40C or above, then check with a white background.
richteralan said:
Haven't done the yellow spot test yet. So can't tell.
The way I do the test: Install StabilityTest, set screen brightness to 100%, run CPU+GPU Test, wrap phone in a blanket and try get the temperature to 40C or above, then check with a white background.
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It looks like if your phone doesn't have issues it will likely develop one if u carry on with this so called test...
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I have the same issue as the OP. and in pretty much same spots...
Just for the sake of asking, putting my phone in gpu rendering is it easier on the phone or harder work load wise?
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Related
Ironic that the Nexus 4 has thermal problems when Qualcomm seems particularly proud of the low temps of the S4 chip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mSD_EhgGSc
It'll be fine man.
wait for the phone.
Saw everyone *****ing about the Benchmarks right?
and see the Improvements now,so wait 3 more days
XxStatiX said:
It'll be fine man.
wait for the phone.
Saw everyone *****ing about the Benchmarks right?
and see the Improvements now,so wait 3 more days
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I'm confident they will work it out. I will wait 3 more days AND wait for one hardware revision before locking myself in.
dynamicpda said:
I'm confident they will work it out. I will wait 3 more days AND wait for one hardware revision before locking myself in.
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Yeah man i'm pretty confident too.
This one's should be a beast.
And at this price,we shouldnt complain too much :silly:
XxStatiX said:
It'll be fine man.
wait for the phone.
Saw everyone *****ing about the Benchmarks right?
and see the Improvements now,so wait 3 more days
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The improvements were from putting the phone in the freezer. Do you intend to operate your phone in a freezer at all times?
abe in space said:
The improvements were from putting the phone in the freezer. Do you intend to operate your phone in a freezer at all times?
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Throttling only happens in graphics benchmarks!!!!!
When you play games the GPU is fast enought reach the vsznc limit (60fps) without any problems which means the GPU isn't fully stressed and won't throttle .
And besides even when throttled the Adreno is still 2x faster then tegra 3 or mali-400mp in some benchmarks.
That beeing said I'm pretty confident that this problem will be fixed either by LG/Qualcomm themselves or by the great devs in this forum (undervolting, raising the temperature the GPU starts to throttle)
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The improvements were from putting the phone in the freezer. Do you intend to operate your phone in a freezer at all times?
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Source ?
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Disregard
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The improvements were from putting the phone in the freezer. Do you intend to operate your phone in a freezer at all times?
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Says who?
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how will we know when they have a hardware revision? how long does that usually take?
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The improvements were from putting the phone in the freezer. Do you intend to operate your phone in a freezer at all times?
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USSENTERNCC1701E said:
I think you may have taken a joke out of context.
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Oh, well there it on the reddit post
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/12rk7s/anandtech_have_run_new_nexus_4_benchmarks_which/
My point is that we should wait to see the true story for ourselves.
Hmmm.
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My point is that we should wait to see the true story for ourselves.
Hmmm.
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https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/266194787466616832
its most probably a low thermal limit set for the review devices. its set to 60c? that is kind of low to set it at that value. the Galaxy Nexus was set to 80c if im not mistaken
Wait for the final devices, then we can test it ourselves
IINexusII said:
its most probably a low thermal limit set for the review devices. its set to 60c? that is kind of low to set it at that value. the Galaxy Nexus was set to 80c if im not mistaken
Wait for the final devices, then we can test it ourselves
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The Galaxy S2 has a limit of 85°C if I'm not mistaken, 60°C seems pretty conservative indeed.
wurzelsepp3 said:
The Galaxy S2 has a limit of 85°C if I'm not mistaken, 60°C seems pretty conservative indeed.
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ah well if the s2s thermal limit was 85 , then yea, maybe this is just set a little too conservative
Do we know it has thermal issues? I've seen no proof and only speculation.....
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italia0101 said:
ah well if the s2s thermal limit was 85 , then yea, maybe this is just set a little too conservative
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I dunno my GS2 got really hot around the camera area, so boiling I had to get a case for it lol.
WTF :silly:
1- this s4 dual core = less heating
2- yeah the dumbest thing ever compering 28Nm cpu with 40Nm cpu
I asked a reviewer (one who has only just posted their review, so they spent alot longer than some with the phone) on G+ whether he noticed any overheating. He said he hadn't ANY warming at all. It sounds like for every day use there won't be any issue.
Brac20 said:
I asked a reviewer (one who has only just posted their review, so they spent alot longer than some with the phone) on G+ whether he noticed any overheating. He said he hadn't ANY warming at all. It sounds like for every day use there won't be any issue.
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The basic point is that it does happen. Which it shouldn't. Perhaps the problem is indeed that they set the max temp too low (60c). Only time will tell.
I am very disappointed with this device. Since I bought this phone always had problems.
Starting from overheating when I'm playing something.
Then the side of the device begins to peel.
Then mold spots appear on the screen.
Then this whole bootloader, rom buggy, etc.
If this device was really good, I do not feel the need to change rom and make the machine go through so many updates. The handset comes with manufacturing a critical bug in the camera. Among other problems. Now I finally got my braces bad time. If I can not fix it I have to leave for Samsung.
I'm no novice user. I've had three devices of Lg.
Lg Optimus One Phone = Bug Phone.
Lg Optimus 2x = Bug Phone.
And now the Lg Optimus 4x = Hd Bug Phone.
I am seriously evaluating getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Visit the forum of this device in Xda. Hardly find complaints about it.
Lg P880 I bought this because it is cheaper, but now I find that cheap actually ends up costing too high.
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Mold spots? If that's true you can't really blame the phone 'cause moisture = mold.
Also, try playing games on any phone and it will get hot. This goes for literally any device on the planet.
Yes, it i was like to say.
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archie87 said:
Mold spots? If that's true you can't really blame the phone 'cause moisture = mold.
Also, try playing games on any phone and it will get hot. This goes for literally any device on the planet.
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But it isnt normal. The phone heats too much!
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Peeeling chrome.
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Yep same here the "quad core+1" tegra 3 "blazing fast" cpu is one real bad cpu to start with, it sucks for real tasks and overheats for that matter. the screen isn't like the other hd ips screens it has a yellow temperature tint unlike the others the blues look desaturated the most out of all the colors and it feels cheaply made.
xavierleonelbr said:
But it isnt normal. The phone heats too much!
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please define your "overheating"
overheating is when your device powers off, due to 90°C processor temperature...
the tegra 3 default throttle temp is 85°C, LG's is 71°C... i changed the value in my custom kernel to 80°C, so we can get a better performance also with high temps...
and have you ever been thinking what's working in your device? you've got 4 CPU cores and 1 GPU core... now think of a normal PC, what does a normal PC have, what a phone doesn't? right, a fan. or cooling in general. so the higher temps are completely normal...
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please define your "overheating"
overheating is when your device powers off, due to 90°C processor temperature...
the tegra 3 default throttle temp is 85°C, LG's is 71°C... i changed the value in my custom kernel to 80°C, so we can get a better performance also with high temps...
and have you ever been thinking what's working in your device? you've got 4 CPU cores and 1 GPU core... now think of a normal PC, what does a normal PC have, what a phone doesn't? right, a fan. or cooling in general. so the higher temps are completely normal...
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Yes, but it burn my fingers!
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Yes, but it burn my fingers!
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that's impossible... the phone shuts itself down before that...
Somewhere is problem. I have same phone, only problem is with the bubbles under screen but chrome line still like new, no overheating (max temp about 50° when playing games) and the screen for me much better then samoled (yes, i have s3 and change it - hate design and display absolutly unreadable outside).
And stock rom? Buggy? I havent any stopped aplication since i have this phone, lg launcher is really good.
For me, only bad is camera and sound output with stock player (so im using poweramp )
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S.M-A-RT said:
Somewhere is problem. I have same phone, only problem is with the bubbles under screen but chrome line still like new, no overheating (max temp about 50° when playing games) and the screen for me much better then samoled (yes, i have s3 and change it - hate design and display absolutly unreadable outside).
And stock rom? Buggy? I havent any stopped aplication since i have this phone, lg launcher is really good.
For me, only bad is camera and sound output with stock player (so im using poweramp )
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i've got these bubbles, too... but i don't care
but be careful with the temp, the temp you see is the battery temp, not the processor temp
Meh, another complaining thread.. Personally, I don't even care about and i predict i'm not alone with that.
If u don't like the phone, just sell it, what's the problem?
And i don't see any overheating problems, what are You launching, Crysis from PC?
I think this is the best phone for this price.many phones is the same like ours but cost too much.desighn is verry cool,we dont have many roms and kernels because we just unlocked ours bootloaders and i think we have to wait little more for more stuf.
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Play your games in the fridge! All quad cores get hot! The Samsung amoled screens are horrible! I fancy an s3 because I am a mobile gamer, but if kholks new kernel can give me the performance I was expecting then no way! Everything else about this phone is so much better than Samsung!
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If you have any problems like bubbles under the screen or excessive-myfingersareburning-overheating you should probably use your warranty and get this device checked by authorized personel. Personally, I had none of these problems you mentioned. Phone is rooted, bootloader is unlocked, CyanogenMod is happily running "under the hood". Stock ROM was pretty good for me, but CM is CM. You can't say 'no' to CM. If you don't like this phone, then sell it. Note 2 is indeed a powerful device, I'm sure that you'll be happy with it. But! This phone has yet to show its true power through custom ROMs and kernels. My old 2010 flagship - HTC Desire - got ROM with JB and Touchwiz5 powered by awesome custom kernel, so I really have no doubts that our O4X, which is 10 times stronger than Desire, will get some sick modifications sooner or later (starting with EternityProject kernel and CM 10.1). Cheers! :highfive:
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Meh, another complaining thread.. Personally, I don't even care about and i predict i'm not alone with that.
If u don't like the phone, just sell it, what's the problem?
And i don't see any overheating problems, what are You launching, Crysis from PC?
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yeah another one i think we been through a lot right reas0n
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I can't speak much of comparing the 4X to other phones as my last phone was some crappy chinese knock-off of a htc sensation. But my 4X is built very well (id like to see what you guys mention as 'bubbles' under your screen, was it like that since you brought it?) the phone does get ridiculously hot (you might have seen my thread about my screen suffering major distortion for a few hours, due to overheating while on ac charge ), but again well within tegra 3 specs (this this is stock clocked at 1.5ghz which is 200mhz higher than my tf300t tablet which has much more room to dissipate heat)
Im in love with the design of the phone, only issue i have is i feel the back button is on the wrong side but i use LMT launcher anyway(if you don't know what it is i suggest you look it up). The stock firmware was fine(no issues) other than feeling bloated, stock jellybean was slightly smoother and a bit lighter, CM10.1 is absolutely amazing and in my opinion increases the value of the phone drastically.
Just my take on it.....
laufersteppenwolf said:
i've got these bubbles, too... but i don't care
but be careful with the temp, the temp you see is the battery temp, not the processor temp
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I know, I look at temperature shown in hidden menu > cpu usage.
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My last phone was a One X and this is on a par at least with that, except in gaming until I at least hope custom kernels will change that.
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I can't speak much of comparing the 4X to other phones as my last phone was some crappy chinese knock-off of a htc sensation. But my 4X is built very well (id like to see what you guys mention as 'bubbles' under your screen, was it like that since you brought it?) the phone does get ridiculously hot (you might have seen my thread about my screen suffering major distortion for a few hours, due to overheating while on ac charge ), but again well within tegra 3 specs (this this is stock clocked at 1.5ghz which is 200mhz higher than my tf300t tablet which has much more room to dissipate heat)
Im in love with the design of the phone, only issue i have is i feel the back button is on the wrong side but i use LMT launcher anyway(if you don't know what it is i suggest you look it up). The stock firmware was fine(no issues) other than feeling bloated, stock jellybean was slightly smoother and a bit lighter, CM10.1 is absolutely amazing and in my opinion increases the value of the phone drastically.
Just my take on it.....
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the bubbles are like a user posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246826
so I have done the thermal paste in my phone and everything else to get my phone cold . and it still got hot so I found out the droid dna has almost the same chip set and HTC had fine tuned there thermald.conf more than just Google did with the source code . also like lg pumping out a base cheap phone without a thermal pad under the CPU.so if you navigate to system/etc/ you will see the thermald.conf file replace it with the droid DNA file and rename your stock one to thermald.conf.bak and change the permissions of the new one to rw-r-r and reboot and your phone runs much cooler .
I just hate it cause I do no social networking or gaming on my phone and it just web browsing .phone calls or texting and it got super hot even with a under volt and and mp decision off .
I guess the quest continues . I have kept the file off to save misguidance
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This .conf file ignores the battery temp sensor completely.
so is good to use or not ?
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Best Antutu : 24258 / Best Quadrant : 8643
How exactly is a config file that is supposed to underclock the CPU/GPU when the temperature gets too hot in order to cool the phone down supposed to make the phone run cooler without underclocking at all?
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so I have done the thermal paste in my phone and everything else to get my phone cold . and it still got hot so I found out the droid dna has almost the same chip set and HTC had fine tuned there thermald.conf more than just Google did with the source code . also like lg pumping out a base cheap phone without a thermal pad under the CPU.so if you navigate to system/etc/ you will see the thermald.conf file replace it with the droid DNA file and rename your stock one to thermald.conf.bak and change the permissions of the new one to rw-r-r and reboot and your phone runs much cooler .
I just hate it cause I do no social networking or gaming on my phone and it just web browsing .phone calls or texting and it got super hot even with a under volt and and mp decision off .
Now if I can find a way to upload the droid DNA thermald.conf
Try this link http://db.tt/m6Ge0aYK
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Of course your phone is hot, you disabled mp decision. Re-enable it first you idiot.
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so is good to use or not ?
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Dunno... but I've had my conf file edited since day 1 to change the battery sensor first trigger temp to 43 instead of 36 degrees.
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Of course your phone is hot, you disabled mp decision. Re-enable it first you idiot.
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Why would I enable mpdecision ? It makes my min at 1026 with just a touch of the screen .
And for everybody else I did find out there is no battery sensor detecting like buddy said . I dunno I have been using it for over a day now and it seems to be alright . just HTC edited it a little heavier .
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the kernel i run has the battery thermal throttle disabled, i disabled the cpu thermal throttle, and i run all 4 cores set as minimum, mpdecision disabled, im a heavy user, and its in the 90's in nyc.. and my phone doesnt overheat. why is that?
Maybe you have different binned cpu
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Maybe you have different binned cpu
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nominal
Why don't we stop name calling and present facts, statistics, and tests. I hate how my phone always over heats and would like a solution.
Diferent cpu
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XGrinder911 said:
Why don't we stop name calling and present facts, statistics, and tests. I hate how my phone always over heats and would like a solution.
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name calling? by overheat, what temperature are you talking about?
I'm going to stick to 1.5ghz as Google intended it to be.
XGrinder911 said:
Why don't we stop name calling and present facts, statistics, and tests. I hate how my phone always over heats and would like a solution.
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Mine to ! Its like a 201k one of the older units but I bought it from some apple guy for $300 even and I am pretty sure I lost my RMA privaliges . so I tore the phone apart . put artic silver all over and aluminum under my CPU's and also under my battery but it will still get warm .turning on mpdecision I guess does help with the new thermals.conf file . so yeah this thread sucks .
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Lol at people thermal pasting a phone. Totally not needed. Bad uneducated tech bloggers have everyone running around like chicken little over normal phone temps
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styckx said:
Lol at people thermal pasting a phone. Totally not needed. Bad uneducated tech bloggers have everyone running around like chicken little over normal phone temps
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this!
thanks(out of thanks).
So what is the normal temperate for the phone?
Holy. Really bro? Reapply thermal paste? On a phone? A phone that's so locked down you can't even change the battery....
Makes me wonder what the temps you were getting...
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So what is the normal temperate for the phone?
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depends what the surrounding temps are and what you are doing. if its going over 80C and youre not doing anything(idling), thats beyond normal. if you are hitting 70C and are playing a cpu intensive game for a bit, thats still normal. if your phone does actually overheat, itll hit the cpu safety temp and turn itself off, to cool down. i believe its 95 or 100C. ive actually hit 100C(trying to get it that hot), and it shut itself down. then i just booted it back up(was around 40C when it booted). depending on the air temp around you, and what you were just doing with the device, idling temps in the mid 40C to 50C are still normal.
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bleuwave said:
Holy. Really bro? Reapply thermal paste? On a phone? A phone that's so locked down you can't even change the battery....
Makes me wonder what the temps you were getting...
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the battery is fairly easy to change, the back comes right off.
I've had my new Z1 (opened 3 days ago) and what I've seen is that the
temperature goes really high after 10 minutes of light gaming.
I've tried playing temple run 2 or subway but after 7-10 minutes the phone heats up...
I don't know if my device is like that or the adreno uses too much power to make
the game "happen" in a 5inch 1920x1080 resolution....
I think heating up the phone is dangerous...Am I right?
UltraWelfare said:
I've had my new Z1 (opened 3 days ago) and what I've seen is that the
temperature goes really high after 10 minutes of light gaming.
I've tried playing temple run 2 or subway but after 7-10 minutes the phone heats up...
I don't know if my device is like that or the adreno uses too much power to make
the game "happen" in a 5inch 1920x1080 resolution....
I think heating up the phone is dangerous...Am I right?
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It is normal that your phone heats up
UltraWelfare said:
adreno uses too much power to make
the game "happen" in a 5inch 1920x1080 resolution
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This device got more than enough power to run this game easily
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I think heating up the phone is dangerous...Am I right?
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Yes it is dangerous but nor games nor anything else on stock system will warm your device to very very high temps.
You don't have to worry until phone will burn your skin
EarlShannons said:
It is normal that your phone heats up
This device got more than enough power to run this game easily
Yes it is dangerous but nor games nor anything else on stock system will warm your device to very very high temps.
You don't have to worry until phone will burn your skin
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It normally goes around to 45.0 Celcius...So I don't have to worry...
Sometimes I think myself should I drop it in cold water ?
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It normally goes around to 45.0 Celcius...So I don't have to worry...
Sometimes I think myself should I drop it in cold water ?
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Yeah water would definately cool it.
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Yeah water would definately cool it.
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Ι was actually kidding...Even if it's waterproof I am afraid of putting it in the water ...
If I close the game after 10-15 minutes it gets back to normal temps
The device definitely goes hot while gaming. I've had mine thermal throttle once while playing Asphalt 8!
It's totally normal that this device gets so warm. Don't worry, xperia z1 is well designed and it won't burn. Lg g2 gets even hotter.
You can put it under water to bring the temperature down, I've done that
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It's totally normal that this device gets so warm. Don't worry, xperia z1 is well designed and it won't burn. Lg g2 gets even hotter.
You can put it under water to bring the temperature down, I've done that
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I don't want to put it under water ...I can also wait 5 minutes and it gets back to normal temps ...
Thanks everyone for the answers.
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You have to report it using the orange triangle in the top right of your post. Although I am a mod and have seen your post, I have no rights in this forum to sort your request out. Please report it and then the right mods will see it....
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Thank you very much..I will do this ASAP!
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Well my Nexus 6 has started getting really hot even with moderate usage. Its not like it burns my hand but it gets uncomfortable at times and it worries me.
If I'm just browsing on chrome, checking out Facebook, or playing a simple game like Crossy Roads, the phone starts getting really warm and after a while its really hot. Even when on WiFi it becomes hot. I have to close all the apps and leave it for a while so that it cools down. I don't have a lot of apps open all the time and I have a lot of memory remaining.
I can't really figure out what's the problem, any suggestions?
Thanks.
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I refuse to run facebook, I want facebook I run it from the the browser.
Never really had heat issues.
AstroDigital said:
I refuse to run facebook, I want facebook I run it from the the browser.
Never really had heat issues.
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+1 Facebook application consumes extreme amounts of battery and system resources. That would be my first suggestion as well. Uninstall Facebook and see if you notice an improvement.
It would be easier to suggest something if you let us know if you are stock or have been playing with roms/ kernels and their settings.... I have seen other phones get hot with too aggressive kernel settings.....
first off, what cpu temperature ate you talking about? secondly, feel does not give you am accurate temperature reading, all its does is show you if something is hotter, or cooler, than your hand. thirdly, your phone can get up to 99C in temp. at 100C, the boiling point of water, your phone would automatically shut down to cool off. now while using your phone, especially when using the cpu hard, it will get hot. but that is normal. you own a quad core phone with a 2.65ghz cpu. do you really expwct it to stay cold?
Thanks for the suggestions.
I'll try uninstalling Facebook and getting back to you. I've already uninstalled Facebook Messenger.
My CPU temperature is around 41 degrees Celsius and when it gets warm to the point that its uncomfortable is around 58-60 degrees Celsius.
In know it has a really powerful cpu but I don't always want to be holding a device that is warm to the point that it becomes uncomfortable.
Also I haven't even attempted rooting or changing the kernels so its all stock.
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Thanks for the suggestions.
I'll try uninstalling Facebook and getting back to you. I've already uninstalled Facebook Messenger.
My CPU temperature is around 41 degrees Celsius and when it gets warm to the point that its uncomfortable is around 58-60 degrees Celsius.
In know it has a really powerful cpu but I don't always want to be holding a device that is warm to the point that it becomes uncomfortable.
Also I haven't even attempted rooting or changing the kernels so its all stock.
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58-60C is VERY normal, when using the phone. so maybe a powerful phone isnt right for you.
But is it normal to feel warm? Even though its powerful shouldn't it stay cool? Is this happening to every Nexus 6 user? Sorry for the influx of questions
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Pr0DiGYs- said:
But is it normal to feel warm? Even though its powerful shouldn't it stay cool? Is this happening to every Nexus 6 user? Sorry for the influx of questions
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again, feel osnt an accurate way to kudge temperature. if your hand is cooler, the phone will feel more hot. your phones temp also is dependent on the air temp around you. as if its warmer outside, then the phone will get warmer. but yea, every nexus can and will get that warm. and at times, will get even warmer! try plugging in to a charger and streaming a movie. in this situation, ive seen my phone hit 74C. but thats normal as well. unlike deaktop computers, our phones dont have fans blowing to keep the cpu cool. we rely on an inactive way to keep our phones cooler, so its normal for the more powerfully phones to get warm, and even hot.
Try this.
I was having overheating issues. When gaming, charging, or just about anything other than the phone at an idle. I cleared the cache in recovery. That's it. I did not uninstall anything or modify anything in any way. And now I do not have those issues. Is that what fixed it? I do not know. Will it work for anyone else? I do not know that either. But, I'm pretty sure that if you can clear the cache with your stock recovery, it won't hurt anything. Maybe you will get lucky and it works. Bonus benefit, battery life improved for me as well. Maybe 20% better. I hope it helps you as much as it did for me.
Good Luck.
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I was having overheating issues. When gaming, charging, or just about anything other than the phone at an idle. I cleared the cache in recovery. That's it. I did not uninstall anything or modify anything in any way. And now I do not have those issues. Is that what fixed it? I do not know. Will it work for anyone else? I do not know that either. But, I'm pretty sure that if you can clear the cache with your stock recovery, it won't hurt anything. Maybe you will get lucky and it works. Bonus benefit, battery life improved for me as well. Maybe 20% better. I hope it helps you as much as it did for me.
Good Luck.
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if you are having "overheating" issues, then you are saying that your phone hits 100C constantly and reboot? if not, its not an "overheating" issue, its an issue with you and some heat.
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if you are having "overheating" issues, then you are saying that your phone hits 100C constantly and reboot? if not, its not an "overheating" issue, its an issue with you and some heat.
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No. What I am saying is that it did get hot enough to reboot. And now it does not get hot enough to reboot. I guess I should know to be absolutely clear on these forums. Thanks.
JdgM3NT4L said:
No. What I am saying is that it did get hot enough to reboot. And now it does not get hot enough to reboot. I guess I should know to be absolutely clear on these forums. Thanks.
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odd. considering that thermal throttle is on by default. do you disable thermal throttle manually?
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odd. considering that thermal throttle is on by default. do you disable thermal throttle manually?
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No, what is odd is that I posted my experience with a similar issue on my Nexus 6 from at&t, and now I am responding to this.
But, fine.
I prefer not to beat around the bush. So, if you want to say it's not possible? Ok. that's cool. Think I am lying? That's fine as well. Heck I probably am. Just disregard the whole thing. It isn't important. at all. I wish I had something more meaningful to add. I'm starting to feel a little dirty from spamming up the thread with this. So I am happy to digress first man. You won. :good: :highfive: :victory:
And so sorry O.P. Didn't mean to push any buttons and junk up your thread.
Now that that's out of the way. Please try to have a good day.
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No, what is odd is that I posted my experience with a similar issue on my Nexus 6 from at&t, and now I am responding to this.
But, fine.
I prefer not to beat around the bush. So, if you want to say it's not possible? Ok. that's cool. Think I am lying? That's fine as well. Heck I probably am. Just disregard the whole thing. It isn't important. at all. I wish I had something more meaningful to add. I'm starting to feel a little dirty from spamming up the thread with this. So I am happy to digress first man. You won. :good: :highfive: :victory:
And so sorry O.P. Didn't mean to push any buttons and junk up your thread.
Now that that's out of the way. Please try to have a good day.
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lol! im not saying youre lying! seriously. im just saying that the behavior that you experienced is odd, considering thermal throttle being there. i actively disable thermal throttle every single time i boot up. and i try, really try, but have not been able to reach 100C on my n6. and i run my cpu at 3032mhz high and low cpu speed. now my nexus 5 reaches shutdown very easy, it takes seconds to get it there. my n6, no matter how hard i push, purposefully, i can not get it to reach 100C. now your reboot might have been something completely different, and you not reaching thermal shutdown. but i doubt you would have known that, because you would need a live cpu temp in your status bar to see if you hit thermal shutdown. and i doubt you have a cpu temp showing in your status bar. i do
If your phone is 55+C while you are not using it very intensely there's a problem.
I listen to music, watch videos, play some games like clash of clans and I never break 50 Celsius.
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If your phone is 55+C while you are not using it very intensely there's a problem.
I listen to music, watch videos, play some games like clash of clans and I never break 50 Celsius.
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youre probably looking at the battery temp. battery temp is different. if your battery hits 60C, youll automatically shut down. everyone i know with a nexus 6 sees over 50C cpu temp rather often. well, depending how hard you are using the cpu, and the temp around you.
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lol! im not saying youre lying! seriously. im just saying that the behavior that you experienced is odd, considering thermal throttle being there. i actively disable thermal throttle every single time i boot up. and i try, really try, but have not been able to reach 100C on my n6. and i run my cpu at 3032mhz high and low cpu speed. now my nexus 5 reaches shutdown very easy, it takes seconds to get it there. my n6, no matter how hard i push, purposefully, i can not get it to reach 100C. now your reboot might have been something completely different, and you not reaching thermal shutdown. but i doubt you would have known that, because you would need a live cpu temp in your status bar to see if you hit thermal shutdown. and i doubt you have a cpu temp showing in your status bar. i do
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Well I can't tell you how hot it was getting. But when I played Star Wars Galactic Defender while charging it got really hot, almost too hot to hold. Although I am sure that what I felt was nothing near the boiling point of water, it was enough to make the phone restart.It got hot under the same circumstances with 5.0. Just not that hot. But after the 5.1 update it started getting much hotter. At the time I wouldn't put it on a charger at night because of the crazy heat. After the cache clearing things have been much better. It doesn't even get warm when fast charging.
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youre probably looking at the battery temp. battery temp is different. if your battery hits 60C, youll automatically shut down. everyone i know with a nexus 6 sees over 50C cpu temp rather often. well, depending how hard you are using the cpu, and the temp around you.
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Partly. Through normal operation with stock interactive governor I sit around 40-50 playing music, opening coc, etc. Phone never feels hot in hand.
When I'm idling or reading something or casually scrolling I'm always sitting 35-40 CPU temp.
Obviously if I crank it up and lock to 2.6GHz and run some CPU stresses I quickly get up to 75C :laugh: but that isn't normal operation. Relaxed operation when the CPU is idling should sit pretty low.
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Well I can't tell you how hot it was getting. But when I played Star Wars Galactic Defender while charging it got really hot, almost too hot to hold. Although I am sure that what I felt was nothing near the boiling point of water, it was enough to make the phone restart.It got hot under the same circumstances with 5.0. Just not that hot. But after the 5.1 update it started getting much hotter. At the time I wouldn't put it on a charger at night because of the crazy heat. After the cache clearing things have been much better. It doesn't even get warm when fast charging.
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it probably was something else that made it reboot, being plugged in and gaming. btw, thats the second best way ive found to get the phone really hot, plugged in and gaming
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Partly. Through normal operation with stock interactive governor I sit around 40-50 playing music, opening coc, etc. Phone never feels hot in hand.
When I'm idling or reading something or casually scrolling I'm always sitting 35-40 CPU temp.
Obviously if I crank it up and lock to 2.6GHz and run some CPU stresses I quickly get up to 75C :laugh: but that isn't normal operation. Relaxed operation when the CPU is idling should sit pretty low.
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using the cpu lightly or it just sitting there wont get it hot at all. listening to music is using the cpu very lightly. if it gets hot just sitting there, then that is a problem. thats usually caused by a process getting "stuck" and the cpu staying a 100% active. so the heat in that situation would be a symptom, but not the problem.