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Does the bargain price of the Nexus 4 make it less exclusive??

I was talking to one of my buddies here at work who is also an Android Freak like myself and we were discussing about how Google and LG can sell such a device packing what it does for $299 or $349.
It's seems like it has really beautiful build quality also, while Samsung sells a plastic dual core S3 with half the RAM, lower resolution screen for double the price!
Don't get me wrong, I am both happy and sad that the phone is so damn cheap. Glad because it is so dirt cheap that I can buy it as a backup phone to my Note 2 and just not worry about it falling and breaking or whatever. Replacing just the LCD on my Note 2 would probably pay for the whole Nexus 4!
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
I know this post seems a bit ridiculous, but that's something that is bugging me a little about the device. What do you guys think? A little something inside kinda wish Google priced this device similar to the Galaxy Nexus. I think it would have been more special to me. Am I crazy?

Dan37tz said:
Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks.
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Just because people are excited, you're assuming they're 13? Right...
... and imo, the price does not make it any less exclusive.

You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
In any case, mainstream smartphones, like all technology, will always be getting less exclusive. If exclusivity is of import, the Tag Heuer Android phones look quite sharp, but probably will be behind on the OS curve...

Setting aside the ridiculousness of caring about exclusivity, your work colleagues likely got sticker-shock because they don't know much about the cellphone market. I'm sure they don't think of the iPhone as an "exclusive" device, and yet it's in the same range as the Note 2 off-contract. The Nexus 4 may not be a monetarily exclusive device, but it's still going to have limited sales due to the number of people who are informed enough about their options to pick one up.
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linj said:
You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
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Front-to-front. The back's the best-looking part, after all; and the part that displays the ever-important logos.

You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.

You say less exclusive... I say more support.

How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).

No, it makes it lighter on my wallet. I don't care how many other people have it as long as I do.

Dan37tz said:
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't agree.
[13 yr old comment]If you want to feel special, maybe get it from the TMo store or import it. [/13 yr old comment]
The price is being subsidized. Just making it easier to reach more people. This way el goog can make even more money with mobile ad revenue.

Euler MD said:
You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.

If having exclusivity means paying $1000 dollars, I'll take a less exclusive phone any day for $350

You think $500+ phones are exclusive? You'll find more Note 2s and iPhones than N4.
That said, the more the N4s out there, the more accessories there will be for it. And thats always a good thing.

tgyberg said:
How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
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This. I only know one girl outside of XDA that even knows what the Nexus line is.
Ace42 said:
Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
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Perhaps. Google may keep production low for the first wave after watching previous launches. There seems to be a lot of uncertainty about the popularity of this phone due to the lack of LTE, expandable storage, and maybe inadequate battery. Those of us looking to buy the phone can only hope that it is either not that popular or that Google didn't lower production.

Dan37tz said:
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
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You know what I got from reading this? That you need to feel special/better than your friends. That's no reason to jack up the price of a phone.

Tell you what, I'll buy mine, then sell it to you for $859.99, that'll really blow your colleagues out of the water! Or how about avoiding the faux pas of bragging about how much money you spent on a cell phone. Hell, if anything I'll be showing my friends this phone and telling them how cheap it was. Look at this thing, it's awesome, and cost half the price of your NoteII!

Dan37tz said:
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't see anything wrong of a 13 year old can save up and purchase this device, it allows a younger audience to own a modern smartphone without the hefty price tag. Exclusivity to one type of group (in this case being age) isn't somthing company's want for their products, and if they lure in the younger users with the low price tag, that means more marketshare for them. The nexus 4 isn't a fashion item like more popular phones such as the iPhone, or even the galaxy s3, it's made for contract free or value plan customers who want a fast phone for a reasonable price.

Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/

Who cares? Does it matter if the phone is not as "exclusive" as you would like?
It's an amazing phone at a great price, it will further push the Android ecosystem.
If you want exclusive, stick with foreign imports of obscure devices.

Foxy Roxy said:
Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
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I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago

bfspider said:
I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
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XD I just did few minutes ago.

Clamshell Keyboard

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why Google and Samsung seemingly refuse to develop a competent and attractive keyboard solution. Especially with the Microsoft Surface Touch and Type covers selling so well with the actual Surface. The Nexus 10 has such an ideal connector in the pogo pins, and creating a keyboard dock with a hinge could not possibly involve heavy R&D costs. The market is clearly there. I would love to see a third party maker, like the creators of the ClamCase for the iPad, come up with a solution. The new ClamCase Pro is absolutely beautiful and greatly increases the productivity potential of the iPad. I'd buy one for the Nexus 10 in a heartbeat. I suppose I should not be surprised as we have yet to see an official pogo charger, although the one I bought works rather well, from either Samsung or Google. Both are doing a horrendous job of supporting a flagship tablet.
That was the rant portion of this post, my apologies.
I'm very curious to see what the best solutions everyone has come up with. Yes, I have perused all the other threads regarding the topic, and I've found the answers and workarounds less than appealing. So unless Google and Samsung miraculously come to their senses and release an accessory that should have been available 3 months ago, I'm hoping that one of the brilliant minds on here will spark some hope or joy into my search. So if you don't mind, please share your ideas, opinions, and possible solutions that I may be able to try out and attempt to assuage my growing frustration.

I just hook up a Bluetooth keyboard and put the tablet on a stand.
From a business standpoint, it's a waste of good R&D money to try to develop an integrated keyboard solution for a tablet. Nexus devices always have vestigial ports and plugs, and this is just due to Google's lazy practice of axing a particular feature over cost concerns, and then they just ask the hardware manufacturer to leave the remnants of it in rather than spend more money revising the design.
People that really need keyboards and mice will already have a preferred Bluetooth or OTG USB solution, meanwhile the OS itself doesn't require nor is it designed around those input devices. Personally I find it annoying and slow to use the OS with a mouse and keyboard, and only use the keyboard if I have a table nearby and need to type for extended periods of time. If such an occasion wasn't so rare, I probably would have bought an actual laptop or Chromebook instead.
Microsoft makes a point of marketing the Surface as more of a business device, but the RT still fell flat in that regard (wtf no Active Directory integration?), and the Pro is obscenely expensive for a device that doesn't offer any additional business features that can't be accomplished by a cheaper Windows 8 laptop. Keyboards and mice on tablets are niche features, and most people balked at the fact that a touch cover for the Surface RT costs an extra $100, which was also a pretty terrible keyboard overall. Google wasn't ready to make the same mistake, because historically Samsung charges obscene amounts of money for their accessories as well.
If given the choice between a $30 Motorola Bluetooth keyboard that requires its own batteries, or a $70-$100 Samsung keyboard that hooks into the pogo pins, I'd prefer the $30 option. I use my tablet like a tablet, and use a desktop or laptop when I need to do actual work. Trying to shoehorn my tablet into being a laptop replacement often ends in failure and disappointment, so I just accepted its limitations and moved on.

i've just ordered this keyboard. looks nice.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BUM4P8K/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Please let us know how that keyboard works out. It looks like a good price for one.
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devilson-13 said:
i've just ordered this keyboard. looks nice.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BUM4P8K/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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At last!!! I've been checking this accessories subforum since the Nexus 10's release waiting for one. I wonder if I can sell my logitech keyboard that I never use. Please please let us know how it works. Kind of can't believe it took this long

also, you can find it cheaper here:
http://www.amazon.com/VSTN%C2%AE-Aluminum-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Cover/dp/B00BP4QGTY/ref=sr_1_368_m?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1364153448&sr=1-368&keywords=Bluetooth+Keyboard+nexus+10
i discovered this link after i ordered...but in my case it's the same thing due to shipping cost to Europe.
edit: as soon as i receive the keyboard, i would let you know how is working.

Sweet, can't wait for a review!
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Wow please do review this when u get it, this is exactly what I've been looking for for months.

jvanassen said:
Wow please do review this when u get it, this is exactly what I've been looking for for months.
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Interesting. Looks identical to the Minisuit Case I order a couple weeks ago that is still on preorder:
http://www.minisuit.com/p-1723-google-nexus-10-keyboard-stand-case.aspx
Maybe it's time to cancel that order and go with Amazon.

vansmack said:
Interesting. Looks identical to the Minisuit Case I order a couple weeks ago that is still on preorder:
http://www.minisuit.com/p-1723-google-nexus-10-keyboard-stand-case.aspx
Maybe it's time to cancel that order and go with Amazon.
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I don't know if that would make a difference. I ordered mine a couple days ago and Amazon estimates three to six weeks for delivery. I will let you know if I get it sooner.

rrand said:
I don't know if that would make a difference. I ordered mine a couple days ago and Amazon estimates three to six weeks for delivery. I will let you know if I get it sooner.
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Thanks. I didn't cancel and will also keep you posted.
I see now that minisuit has changed the picture to the black one - it was originally the brushed aluminum - so this should be a fun wait and see experience.

I received an email today saying they are out of the black ones until next weekend if I want to wait or they can send me a silver now. Either way they're offering a 20% refund for the inconvenience. I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. I wanted the black one.

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I received an email today saying they are out of the black ones until next weekend if I want to wait or they can send me a silver now. Either way they're offering a 20% refund for the inconvenience. I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. I wanted the black one.
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I got the same email, lots of spelling mistakes and bad english. Only $26 so figured I'd just wait.

Dallasalien said:
I got the same email, lots of spelling mistakes and bad english. Only $26 so figured I'd just wait.
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I've made up my mind to wait for the black one as well. I'll let you all know of my experience when I receive it.

rrand said:
I've made up my mind to wait for the black one as well. I'll let you all know of my experience when I receive it.
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I got a tracking number today so hopefully be posting pics in a few weeks

Black is back on sale again, pricing is a few bucks more expensive. Just bought one, didn't want to wait for reviews.
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I noticed from the pictures that this clam-shell keyboard and the other 2 i found on amazon all have a big piece of plastic that sticks out right in front of the space-bar key... i suppose its necessary for it to close properly with the N10....
When anyone gets it, please let us know if it get on the way of typing normally!
Thanks!

So any reviews?

Yeah I have been watching these keyboards as well. I love how they snap onto the nexus to protect it. :thumbup:
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Lukxxx said:
So any reviews?
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No one has received one yet, though I did get a message from mini suit about10 mins ago that mine has shipped in the brushed aluminum varietal.
As soon as I have it I'll post some photos and a review.

Does anyone know the current Note 5 sales figures / volume / number?

Does anyone know the current Note 5 sales figures / volume / number?
The closest thing I could find is a comparison of its sales compared to the Note 6+ Edge but no concrete numbers.
I wonder if Samsung is keeping silent on the numbers because sales are disappointing?
If sales were record-breaking, I'm sure they would market it and love to throw it in Apple's face.

I'd like to know, too. the new iPhone sales and availability has been crazy than what I remember with the Note5 after release.
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I have heard the Note 5 sales were hurt because they did not offer it in Europe (yet).
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KruseLudsMobile said:
I have heard the Note 5 sales were hurt because they did not offer it in Europe (yet).
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I can see that happening

KruseLudsMobile said:
I have heard the Note 5 sales were hurt because they did not offer it in Europe (yet).
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Why was it not offered in Europe?

Neo3D said:
Why was it not offered in Europe?
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We may never know the real reasons. Officially, it was said Europeans are not that fond of a stylus and they would prefer the Edge+. I do remember, after a rather modest commercial start, the first Note got its success in great part from the European market.
When Apple finally announces a stylus for their iPad after explaining it was useless and after adopting the Note format they said was not a niche, I simply don't understand the strategy of Samsung.
However, rumors meet for an European version very soon.

Raspail said:
We may never know the real reasons. Officially, it was said Europeans are not that fond of a stylus and they would prefer the Edge+. I do remember, after a rather modest commercial start, the first Note got its success in great part from the European market.
When Apple finally announces a stylus for their iPad after explaining it was useless and after adopting the Note format they said was not a niche, I simply don't understand the strategy of Samsung.
However, rumors meet for an European version very soon.
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Samsung needs some confidence and direction. Stop trying to copy Apple. Apple sucks.

Neo3D said:
Samsung needs some confidence and direction. Stop trying to copy Apple. Apple sucks.
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Ha ha ha. I totally agree about the whole apple thing. Samsung should have called their new note the inote 5. Lol

Neo3D said:
Why was it not offered in Europe?
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I just saw an announcement it will be for sale in europe in Jan '16

let's wait till December to get a good figure...
http://www.cnet.com/news/samsungs-smartphone-shipments-to-see-first-ever-annual-decline/
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Raspail said:
We may never know the real reasons. Officially, it was said Europeans are not that fond of a stylus and they would prefer the Edge+. I do remember, after a rather modest commercial start, the first Note got its success in great part from the European market.
When Apple finally announces a stylus for their iPad after explaining it was useless and after adopting the Note format they said was not a niche, I simply don't understand the strategy of Samsung.
However, rumors meet for an European version very soon.
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As a European resident i'd find it more likely we don't want to be fooled be Samsung in giving us an inferior Note.
Just look at the previous iterations. Especially the 1, 2 and 3. They were by FAR the best/fastest/most loaded smartphones out at the time.
The current Note 5 is just an S6 edge plus with a pen (and acompaniing apps).
And im (as a note fan) completly disgusted by this...

Obviously if you don't like the note 5, then don't buy it. No need to be 'disgusted'.
It is just a phone...
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HanZie82 said:
As a European resident i'd find it more likely we don't want to be fooled be Samsung in giving us an inferior Note.
Just look at the previous iterations. Especially the 1, 2 and 3. They were by FAR the best/fastest/most loaded smartphones out at the time.
The current Note 5 is just an S6 edge plus with a pen (and acompaniing apps).
And im (as a note fan) completly disgusted by this...
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As some one who actually owns the phone, it's night and day faster than my Note 4.
The fact the edge plus and note 5 are very similar disgusts you? I need your life if that's all it takes to disgust you.
Some of you guys need to think more like consumers and less like scorned fanboys expecting special treatment because once you defended the honor of TouchWiz in a comment thread of and apple product.
Also how is Samsung trying to be like apple?
There was mention that sales were hurting because they opted to not offer the note 5 in Europe. What is being ignored is while they are missing out on sales in Europe, they are also not paying to manufacture, advertise, and ship to Europe. So looking at units sold compared to last year and not actually looking at the bottom line is kind of short sighted and looks to be bias confirmation for some people.
Not saying sales will be better but for the sake of discussion look at the whole picture.
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pcriz said:
As some one who actually owns the phone, it's night and day faster than my Note 4.
The fact the edge plus and note 5 are very similar disgusts you? I need your life if that's all it takes to disgust you.
Some of you guys need to think more like consumers and less like scorned fanboys expecting special treatment because once you defended the honor of TouchWiz in a comment thread of and apple product.
Also how is Samsung trying to be like apple?
There was mention that sales were hurting because they opted to not offer the note 5 in Europe. What is being ignored is while they are missing out on sales in Europe, they are also not paying to manufacture, advertise, and ship to Europe. So looking at units sold compared to last year and not actually looking at the bottom line is kind of short sighted and looks to be bias confirmation for some people.
Not saying sales will be better but for the sake of discussion look at the whole picture.
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Wow, you make assumptions like you're a pro. Too bad they're wrong.
It's disgusting that their flagship line of products are now the same as the mass-consumer product.
But i understand if you don't get it tho. Understanding what people mean can be hard sometimes.

HanZie82 said:
Wow, you make assumptions like you're a pro. Too bad they're wrong.
It's disgusting that their flagship line of products are now the same as the mass-consumer product.
But i understand if you don't get it tho. Understanding what people mean can be hard sometimes.
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Lol so you are telling me that the Galaxy S6 isn't a flagship but a "mass-consumer product"? And it disgusts you that they used the same internals in the Note. LOL here we go..
First, before the Note Series existed, the S series was and is the defacto "flagship for Samsung". Keep in mind the Note started as a very niche product never intended to reach the number of sales that their flagship S Series did.
Do yourself a favor and search "Samsung flag ship" in google.. better yet let me do it for you:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Samsung+Flag+Ship
Please tell me what device occupies the majority of those results. I know this is simple but Im sure its more logic than you put into your response as an over privileged consumer elitist that can't be bothered with less than "flagship" quality..
Now that we have defined loosely what a "flagship" device is lets look at your reason for disgust. You're mad because a publicly traded company decided to save some money by not designing a whole new chipset and used one that exists and works. Not to mention that same disgustingly mediocre chip set is night and day faster than the last Note and killing it with a smaller battery.. Everything is faster, every, thing.. Some people will never be happy and swear the internet was created to gripe about the smallest things..
Also yes it is very hard to understand someone that attempts to articulate their confirmatory bias with ambiguous hype terms like "flagship" and "mass-consumer product". The hilarious thing is you think those two terms are not homogeneous in this use case.. :good:

pcriz said:
There was mention that sales were hurting because they opted to not offer the note 5 in Europe. What is being ignored is while they are missing out on sales in Europe, they are also not paying to manufacture, advertise, and ship to Europe. S
Not saying sales will be better but for the sake of discussion look at the whole picture.
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That's a good point indeed. May be they should save even more bucks by not paying to manufacture, advertise, and ship to the whole world.

I love music and books with a long commute to and from work when I want media on my phone.
I could live with a fixed battery but microSD is a must. I know other real users in a similar situation and it is with sadness that the Samsung phones can no longer meet my needs.
At the launch event a statement was made that Samsung listened to their users....... I have to question that statement.
I hope the next phones reintroduce SD support if I can wait that long........

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I love music and books with a long commute to and from work when I want media on my phone.
I could live with a fixed battery but microSD is a must. I know other real users in a similar situation and it is with sadness that the Samsung phones can no longer meet my needs.
At the launch event a statement was made that Samsung listened to their users....... I have to question that statement.
I hope the next phones reintroduce SD support if I can wait that long........
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Just flew 6 hours from California to Maryland. Didn't have an issue storing enough music/podcasts on my device. Barely listened to half of it. A commute longer than that?
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pcriz said:
Just flew 6 hours from California to Maryland. Didn't have an issue storing enough music/podcasts on my device. Barely listened to half of it. A commute longer than that?
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The point is that people take Pictures and Videos. Over time, that takes up more and more storage, especially with quality and megapixels going up.
I have 60gb just in pictures and videos from the past 4+years. Just because people get new phones every 2 years doesn't mean they delete their old photo albums and start fresh. All those old memories pile up..
32gb on a phone isn't going to cut it. And I don't want to delete my old memories or upload them to the cloud and have to pay a monthly fee just to access them when I can buy a 128gb micro SD card for $45. Plus, I don't have to worry about having a solid LTE Signal. Plus, I can access a memory card in places where I get no service at all, like on a cruise ship or in a foreign country.
I need a swappable battery. I'm at Disney World and almost every here is walking around with their phones shackled to an external battery charger. It's so much easier to just carry a thin spare. It takes <30 seconds to swap and go from 0% to 100%.

Ok. You need those things, so you will need to buy a different phone...
Not everyone has the same needs, and samsung isn't designing the phone to meet everyone's needs - they are designing it to meet what they think the majority needs are and will sell.
It ok get a different phone. That's why they make different phones...
Is like being mad that you can only fit 5 people in a sedan, because got need to fit 7...
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tab s2 vs tab s3

Bought the S2 earlier this year and subsequently lost it an an airport so need a new one. Was going to replace it with the same after getting the insurance money but I have now discovered that the seller I got the S2 from is selling the S3 for about 50 quid more. Is it worth the upgrade? Don't think I will have a use of the pen.

Did you see this thread?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/general/upgrade-to-tab-s3-t3627842

No. Thanks.

Eggstones said:
No. Thanks.
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Also, a lot of buyer reviews over at Amazon (81% are 4 or 5 stars):
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-9-7-Inch-Tablet-SM-T820NZSAXAR/dp/B01MRDL916/

Eggstones said:
Bought the S2 earlier this year and subsequently lost it an an airport so need a new one. Was going to replace it with the same after getting the insurance money but I have now discovered that the seller I got the S2 from is selling the S3 for about 50 quid more. Is it worth the upgrade? Don't think I will have a use of the pen.
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Even though the S3 has many teething troubles, for only £50 more, I'd take the punt. When Samsung sort the problems out, you will be paying a lot more than £50 a few years down the line if you want to upgrade.
Maybe find out what the issues are and ask yourself if any are deal breakers? :angel:

Masteryates said:
Even though the S3 has many teething troubles, for only £50 more, I'd take the punt. When Samsung sort the problems out, you will be paying a lot more than £50 a few years down the line if you want to upgrade.
Maybe find out what the issues are and ask yourself if any are deal breakers? :angel:
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That is just the problem, I don't really know what the niggles/problems are.

Eggstones said:
That is just the problem, I don't really know what the niggles/problems are.
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Time to get yourself to the S3 thread then Eggstones. :highfive:
If you do take the plunge, why not come back here and let us know how you are getting on

Will do. There seems to be a weird magnet issue going on that I don't fully understand.

Go for the S3 as you still have a future software upgrade path. The S2 will likely have come to its final upgrade

ashyx said:
Go for the S3 as you still have a future software upgrade path. The S2 will likely have come to its final upgrade
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Agreed ashyx. :highfive:
One slight chink of light is the fact that the 2016 S2 8" version is still the most recent 8" flagship Samsung device. Maybe it will get its third OS update?

Don't you think 50 quid more is too good to be true?
S3 is a whopping 599.00 and if you shop around maybe you can get it for 540.00 at a pinch. S2 easily get it for 300.00 so if I was offered the S3 for 350.00 I'd be asking some questions .... u less of course you are talking second hand ... but even then.

For me, the S3 is overpriced for what it is. I someone like Huawei got hold of a Samsung OLED panel, it could really upset the market and drive down the price of the S3.

Masteryates said:
For me, the S3 is overpriced for what it is. I someone like Huawei got hold of a Samsung OLED panel, it could really upset the market and drive down the price of the S3.
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Samsung are really taking the 'p' these days, there is no limit to what they think they can charge. The Note 8 had me absolutely gobsmacked at nearly £900. What's next a £1500 phone?
Yeah £600 for a tablet is pretty high and given the features I think it's OTT frankly but if people pay Samsung will continue to dip into your wallet. Embedded batteries makes the £600 or £860 Note 8 still a 2 year deal as batteries don't last and I hate the fact that they did that for the phones in particular - I value my note 4 with spare batteries which I can swap in when needed and there are so many times when not having one would have been a major inconvenience.
I'll look for other brands - it's always best to go with the guys who have to try harder to get your business. When they get to Samsung status it's "take it or leave it" attitude but thats' to be seen everywhere sadly.

louiscar said:
Samsung are really taking the 'p' these days, there is no limit to what they think they can charge. The Note 8 had me absolutely gobsmacked at nearly £900. What's next a £1500 phone?
Yeah £600 for a tablet is pretty high and given the features I think it's OTT frankly but if people pay Samsung will continue to dip into your wallet. Embedded batteries makes the £600 or £860 Note 8 still a 2 year deal as batteries don't last and I hate the fact that they did that for the phones in particular - I value my note 4 with spare batteries which I can swap in when needed and there are so many times when not having one would have been a major inconvenience.
I'll look for other brands - it's always best to go with the guys who have to try harder to get your business. When they get to Samsung status it's "take it or leave it" attitude but thats' to be seen everywhere sadly.
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Agree with everything you say Louis. :highfive:
I bought the Mrs a Huawei mediapad M3 open box for only £142 in the USA a few weeks ago so I will get to see it in person in a few weeks time. With a high end Kirin SoC, 4GB ram things like a brilliant FP scanner and even a notification LED, it could give my S2 a run for its money. The icing on the cake would be an OLED screen but it seems Samsung are not selling these to others at tablet size.

Let's hope it turns out to be good. I think I need to go look at these offerings and see if the screens are a deal breaker or not. I got my tab second hand and because the screen was a good contender for the ipad retina. And I do appreciate it since the tab is my bedtime movie theatre
I'm sure the other guys will catch up .. Hopefully sooner or later, but if I have to stick with Kim Sami I guess I will go the ebay route and hope to find batteries as I did with the tab s.

SPen on Backorder?

I am new to the Note 9. Up until this week, I had a Note 8 that I was happy with. However, my Note 8 had burn in on the screen, and since Verizon had no Note 8 devices in stock the gave me a Note 9. I love the 9 even better than the 8!
The only downside is that the phone came by itself: no charger, no headphones, and more importantly no SPen! I tried Verizon and Samsung directly, but neither has any of the ocean blue pens in stock. Has anyone had any luck with the ones from Amazon? With all the fakes out there, it is so hard to determine what is a genuine spen. I am thinking of taking a chance on one until they are back in stock. Thanks in advance for the advice!

Samsung US has' em ready to ship for $14.99:
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...replacement-s-pen--ocean-blue-ej-pn960blegus/
Same price at B&H Photo-Video,but it's back-ordered (pricing valid until 2/16/19):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...eplacement_s_pen.html/?ap=y&lsft=BI:514&smp=Y

KOLIOSIS said:
Samsung US has' em ready to ship for $14.99:
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...replacement-s-pen--ocean-blue-ej-pn960blegus/
Same price at B&H Photo-Video,but it's back-ordered (pricing valid until 2/16/19):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...eplacement_s_pen.html/?ap=y&lsft=BI:514&smp=Y
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Thanks! I just ordered one from Samsung. I swear when I checked earlier today they were out!

miked79928 said:
Thanks! I just ordered one from Samsung. I swear when I checked earlier today they were out!
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I tried to order one yesterday and the website didn't give me any options to buy online, it directed me to a Verizon store. I ordered from B&H and was gonna wait for it. Since the post above said they are available direct now with no wait, I canceled my B&H order and bought one from samsung.
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miked79928 said:
I am new to the Note 9. Up until this week, I had a Note 8 that I was happy with. However, my Note 8 had burn in on the screen, and since Verizon had no Note 8 devices in stock the gave me a Note 9. I love the 9 even better than the 8!
The only downside is that the phone came by itself: no charger, no headphones, and more importantly no SPen! I tried Verizon and Samsung directly, but neither has any of the ocean blue pens in stock. Has anyone had any luck with the ones from Amazon? With all the fakes out there, it is so hard to determine what is a genuine spen. I am thinking of taking a chance on one until they are back in stock. Thanks in advance for the advice!
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Wait, Verizon gave you a Note 9 with no box? No charger and no S-Pen? How is that possible? Did they just find one outside of a box and hand it over, or something? Even a refurb would have a charger but to not come with an S-Pen. That sounds pretty shady.

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Wait, Verizon gave you a Note 9 with no box? No charger and no S-Pen? How is that possible? Did they just find one outside of a box and hand it over, or something? Even a refurb would have a charger but to not come with an S-Pen. That sounds pretty shady.
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That is what I thought as well. However, after speaking with the customer service team they said it was the same as a warranty replacement. Since they replaced my note 8, they said the Note 9 was not supposed to come with any accessories (charger, earbuds, and spen). I have been trying to argue with them since Tuesday to get it made right.

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That is what I thought as well. However, after speaking with the customer service team they said it was the same as a warranty replacement. Since they replaced my note 8, they said the Note 9 was not supposed to come with any accessories (charger, earbuds, and spen). I have been trying to argue with them since Tuesday to get it made right.
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What a BS answer from them. The S-Pen is a vital part of the Note device. It's built into the damn phone. Wow... Yet another example of what a ****e service provider Verizon is. Even when I was with Sprint they never pulled that crap with me, and T-Mobile? Forget about it, they're the best with this kind of thing. I hope you can find a way to leave them for someone better.

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What a BS answer from them. The S-Pen is a vital part of the Note device. It's built into the damn phone. Wow... Yet another example of what a ****e service provider Verizon is. Even when I was with Sprint they never pulled that crap with me, and T-Mobile? Forget about it, they're the best with this kind of thing. I hope you can find a way to leave them for someone better.
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The guy gets a "free" upgrade to a note 9 , who cares if it didn't come with an S-Pen. Damn millennials.
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Limeybastard said:
The guy gets a "free" upgrade to a note 9 , who cares if it didn't come with an S-Pen. Damn millennials.
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Is this satire?

roaduardo said:
Is this satire?
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Somewhat.
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Limeybastard said:
Somewhat.
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Careful with the labels. It's cheap and you never know who you're addressing. It be like calling a 10-year Navy combat vet (disabled) a self-absorbed millennial and that would be just silly, woudln't it? All the best.

I'm no vet and my feelings would have been hurt just as much.
"I am not an animal !"
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I'm no vet and my feelings would have been hurt just as much.
"I am not an animal !"
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oh right now I remember, i have no feelings since this is the internet. the watering hole of A holes lol

roaduardo said:
Careful with the labels. It's cheap and you never know who you're addressing. It be like calling a 10-year Navy combat vet (disabled) a self-absorbed millennial and that would be just silly, woudln't it? All the best.
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So are you a disabled 10-year Navy combat veteran? Or any combination of those titles?

Mr. Orange 645 said:
So are you a disabled 10-year Navy combat veteran? Or any combination of those titles?
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2002-2012

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2002-2012
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Thank you for your service, Sir!!

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The guy gets a "free" upgrade to a note 9 , who cares if it didn't come with an S-Pen. Damn millennials.
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Lmao! Trust me, as a non-millenial it pained me to even ask for the pen!
On a good note, I received the pen yesterday and this phone is amazing with it! I have had the Note series since the 3 and I always felt like subsequent units made little to no improvements over their predecessors, until now. I can certainly feel the difference in this phone and the pen is icing on the cake!

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Lmao! Trust me, as a non-millenial it pained me to even ask for the pen!
On a good note, I received the pen yesterday and this phone is amazing with it! I have had the Note series since the 3 and I always felt like subsequent units made little to no improvements over their predecessors, until now. I can certainly feel the difference in this phone and the pen is icing on the cake!
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Glad you were able to take delivery w/o having to wait too long & at a relatively inexpensive cost. :good:
As for the sentiments surrounding the S-Pen,it shouldn't have pained you a bit to ask for it.
It's not as if the S-Pen is a universal accessory akin to a cord/charger adapter/earbuds/etc......... it's the defining element of what the Note series is.
Excluding it also leaves the phone at greater risk to foreign material/water intrusion.
VZW pulled a D*** move by not including it w/your warranty exchange.

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Glad you were able to take delivery w/o having to wait too long & at a relatively inexpensive cost. :good:
As for the sentiments surrounding the S-Pen,it shouldn't have pained you a bit to ask for it.
It's not as if the S-Pen is a universal accessory akin to a cord/charger adapter/earbuds/etc......... it's the defining element of what the Note series IS.
VZW pulled a D*** move by not including it w/your warranty exchange.
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I certainly agree! On the upside, I received a brand new Note 9 for essentially the cost of the spen. I am still considering it a win!

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Glad you were able to take delivery w/o having to wait too long & at a relatively inexpensive cost. :good:
As for the sentiments surrounding the S-Pen,it shouldn't have pained you a bit to ask for it.
It's not as if the S-Pen is a universal accessory akin to a cord/charger adapter/earbuds/etc......... it's the defining element of what the Note series is.
Excluding it also leaves the phone at greater risk to foreign material/water intrusion.
VZW pulled a D*** move by not including it w/your warranty exchange.
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I'm not sure it's a **** move. They probably have certain units set aside for warranty replacement. Typically you'd be exchanging one Note 9 for another and would've kept all your accessories, including the S-Pen. I agree it's a necessary accessory, but the OP could have technically kept his Note 8 S-Pen and used it until the new S-Pen came in. It fits in the slot and works, just not the new Bluetooth features.
Not saying it didn't SUCK to have to go buy an S-Pen and wait, I just don't think Verizon was like, "Hey, let's screw this guy over and keep his S-Pen *maniacal laugh*"
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I certainly agree! On the upside, I received a brand new Note 9 for essentially the cost of the spen. I am still considering it a win!
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Definitely a win!! When the S-Pen went on sale for $15 I snagged one just as a backup in case I lose/break mine. I actually had enough Samsung rewards points from using Samsung Pay that it only cost me $0.93 after tax and free shipping. And they still sent it via 2-day priority mail.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Definitely a win!! When the S-Pen went on sale for $15 I snagged one just as a backup in case I lose/break mine. I actually had enough Samsung rewards points from using Samsung Pay that it only cost me $0.93 after tax and free shipping. And they still sent it via 2-day priority mail.
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I agree with everything you said! I was hopeful I would get one new in the box, but I figured I would get the warranty replacement.
I also grabbed 2 spens! I also grabbed the stock quick charger for $15 and some new headphones from Amazonso now I essentially everything new that would have come in the box!