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My Nexus 7 gets hot!!! Playing none intense games, searching the web, charging and watching a YouTube video. Could this be hurting the device??? It's 86 degrees here where I'm from and 75 in my house. I now charge via Mac because the charger gets so hot!!! Now, I love my Nexus 7 and thank GOD my only issue is a skeptical one. So, I have a iPad 1 2 and 3 the iPad 3 gets kinda hot during intense hourly gameplay and that's it, this seams to not be able to handle the smallest task without getting hot, could it be the plastic back or maybe its okay and I'm just a little uptight about my gadgets???
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Making the processor work hard generates heat! This is normal, the longer you do it the hotter it will get. Unlike laptops there is no cooling fan.
Don't worry the processor can still run safely upto temperatures where you couldn't be holding it but that's not likely to happen (unless you're hyper sensitive)
We avg 80°F indoors here. Yesterday was a warm 111°F outside...
Devices can get hot, not normally be big deal. My Rezound gets up around 115°F on a regular basis.
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Your probably a little uptight with your toys. When electronics do work that's what happens.
Just like computers if your device is getting to hot it should just shut off
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Okay thanks for the response. Now I feel a lot better, it's not a real issue just a could be...thanks!
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If you're also charging and using the tablet at the same time, it'll also become really hot as well. Source: My Galaxy Nexus, EVO 3D, SGS2 all did the same thing.
chlehqls said:
If you're also charging and using the tablet at the same time, it'll also become really hot as well. Source: My Galaxy Nexus, EVO 3D, SGS2 all did the same thing.
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Yeah, thanks, but I'm not doing that. Intact, I never do that and it still gets hot with normal use.
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my nexus 7 was acting weird and was also getting really hot, my unit was lagging like crazy too, so i returned my unit and now am trying to find 16gb unit somewhere around here.
I have noticed that my replacement Nexus (with no screen lift) doesn't seem to get as hot as my first.
from case?
How many of you that think your N7 is running too hot.....have a case of some sort on it?
Some of the cases look like they would trap heat. I am a little surprised not to see some sort of case like a folio type that has breathing cut out sections to help dissipate heat when using for gaming and other heat producing use types.
RR215 said:
How many of you that think your N7 is running too hot.....have a case of some sort on it?
Some of the cases look like they would trap heat. I am a little surprised not to see some sort of case like a folio type that has breathing cut out sections to help dissipate heat when using for gaming and other heat producing use types.
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But I thought that the rubber back would somewhat take a cases place. Anyway, I would never put a case on this.
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I've been using mine for the last hour plus, and I wouldn't even say that it is warm, let alone hot.
Only intense gaming would make it warmer where as for regular use it would run fine. Even when it gets warm it doesn't get warm up to worrying degrees / level.
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The back left of mine gets pretty warm. Worryingly so. Just watching YouTube does it.
Don't these things have heat sensors built in that will make the device handle itself if it gets too hot? Usually computer components can get pretty dang hot before having problems, too.
I won't use a case... but if it comes down to it, I might modify one that's open around the area that gets warm.
And using ANYTHING other than the Nexus 7 charger will take forever. You're lucky to get .5amp out of a Mac socket whereas the factory charger is 2amp.
Or maybe these things were built for the winter and not the summer. It does not feel good in the hand because the heat from normal task makes my hands sweat. Maybe it's because it's so slim and the chip inside is so powerful? Still, I don't like it.
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jalyn02 said:
Or maybe these things were built for the winter and not the summer. It does not feel good in the hand because the heat from normal task makes my hands sweat. Maybe it's because it's so slim and the chip inside is so powerful? Still, I don't like it.
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Heat is a subjective thing... it was 94° here in western NY yesterday and I was showing off the Tegra 3 by playing Dark Meadow: The Pact. The back was a little warm, but nothing I would consider uncomfortable.
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Heat is a subjective thing... it was 94° here in western NY yesterday and I was showing off the Tegra 3 by playing Dark Meadow: The Pact. The back was a little warm, but nothing I would consider uncomfortable.
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No dude! This baby gets uncomfortably hot just doing normal task. I remember when the iPad 3 got bad press for playing highly intensive games and getting a little hot, my Nexus 7 gets hot during normal task.
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I'm starting to think it's because of the plastic back cover. See, if it was metal then the aluminum would play as a heat sink, but for 200$ I guess this is what you get?
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Hi guys! I am really into buying Xperia ZL eversince it was announced but I am slowly considering getting the Xperia Z instead. But there's just 1 thing in my mind that's confusing me in shifting to Z from ZL and it's about how they design the phone.
1. It's whole body is tempered glass. Yes it's luxurious indeed.
2. It's thin. I like that one too although I prefer bulky phones.
3. It's water and dust resistant. Great feature indeed this should shut the tech support of sony repair center into saying that "Sorry you phone is water damaged it's not within our warranty".
But issue is with those 3 advantages comes 1 big advantage.
How will it be able to withstand heat? No I'm not talking about fire resistance but heat from the processor and battery. All of you already are aware that using extensive resources like video playback, browsing, games etc. uses too much power and causes a phone to heat up but seeing a tempered glass body(good conductor of heat) + slim build + a body with no holes where air could pass wouldn't the phone get overheat? Or at least wouldn't it be too hot to touch?
Some of you who owned a Nokia N82 on the past should understand what I am saying.
trust me they are not going to release a phone that gets to hot to touch thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen....the nexus 4 is all glass as well and is just fine. every phone gets hot but trust me it will be just fine
Riyal said:
Hi guys! I am really into buying Xperia ZL eversince it was announced but I am slowly considering getting the Xperia Z instead. But there's just 1 thing in my mind that's confusing me in shifting to Z from ZL and it's about how they design the phone.
1. It's whole body is tempered glass. Yes it's luxurious indeed.
2. It's thin. I like that one too although I prefer bulky phones.
3. It's water and dust resistant. Great feature indeed this should shut the tech support of sony repair center into saying that "Sorry you phone is water damaged it's not within our warranty".
But issue is with those 3 advantages comes 1 big advantage.
How will it be able to withstand heat? No I'm not talking about fire resistance but heat from the processor and battery. All of you already are aware that using extensive resources like video playback, browsing, games etc. uses too much power and causes a phone to heat up but seeing a tempered glass body(good conductor of heat) + slim build + a body with no holes where air could pass wouldn't the phone get overheat? Or at least wouldn't it be too hot to touch?
Some of you who owned a Nokia N82 on the past should understand what I am saying.
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I understand where You are coming from it probably has a built in shut down if it gets to hot... then again maybe the glass acts as a coolant and conducts cool air... I dunno we shall see though... I know the nexus 4 has been known to crack from heating then getting to cool to fast like putting it on a cold surface after it warms up.... we shall see though
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djq said:
trust me they are not going to release a phone that gets to hot to touch thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen....the nexus 4 is all glass as well and is just fine. every phone gets hot but trust me it will be just fine
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What I meant too hot to touch is that it's warm enough to the point that it's already uncomfortable to hold. Also nexus 4 is a millimeter thick than Xperia Z that's a big factor in heat. Plus I did point out 3 factors in heating and nexus 4 only has 1.
kornklown69 said:
I understand where You are coming from it probably has a built in shut down if it gets to hot... then again maybe the glass acts as a coolant and conducts cool air... I dunno we shall see though... I know the nexus 4 has been known to crack from heating then getting to cool to fast like putting it on a cold surface after it warms up.... we shall see though
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I would rather have portable heater with smartphone features than a smartphone that shuts off everytime lol!
Also glass can't be coolants it would defy the logic of nature
And yeah nexus 4 do encounter overheating issues too.
I just wish Xperia ZL was water resistant. The curve design on the back is a great way to reduce heat produced by the phone + the plastic material which reduces it also.
When it gets hot pour water on it LOL... I don't think it will be that big of a problem.
AK4TAY7BEN said:
When it gets hot pour water on it LOL... I don't think it will be that big of a problem.
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Lol! Then in no time you'll end up cracking your phone. Or worse is end up having moisture inside the phone... The phone maybe water resistant but a sudden change in temperature could create moisture from the air inside the phone.
I think the best way out of this is by puting the Z in a protecting case.
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Lol! Then in no time you'll end up cracking your phone. Or worse is end up having moisture inside the phone... The phone maybe water resistant but a sudden change in temperature could create moisture from the air inside the phone.
I think the best way out of this is by puting the Z in a protecting case.
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Well i guess that could could happen if you put it in ice cold water
I don't think i could ever put a case on that lovely back.
Am I the only one who thinks the bottom border on the front of the Z is a little too thick? It should be like the ZL imo.
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Am I the only one who thinks the bottom border on the front of the Z is a little too thick? It should be like the ZL imo.
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They need space to put the electronics you know The Xperia ZL is fatter so they can make the battery more compact, leaving more room for everything else behind the display. Also, part of the OmniBalance design is that the bezel is the same size on the top and bottom.
there is one thing which you guys are missing here
It is important to notice that apq8064 original factory clock is 1.7GHZ however sony take care about that by reducing the speed in to 1.5ghz:silly: so the cpu is under volt that means no overheat issue at least in locked boot loader :0
Unless you play games and keep the phone in the the (new coolant) icy Pepsi joking
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there is one thing which you guys are missing here
It is important to notice that apq8064 original factory clock is 1.7GHZ however sony take care about that by reducing the speed in to 1.5ghz:silly: so the cpu is under volt that means no overheat issue at least in locked boot loader :0
Unless you play games and keep the phone in the the (new coolant) icy Pepsi
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APQ8064 officially has between 1.5GHz - 1.7GHz CPU speeds with release, the manufacturers can choose which speed they want in the kernel
Easy to change once kernel source is out
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APQ8064 officially has between 1.5GHz - 1.7GHz CPU speeds with release, the manufacturers can choose which speed they want in the kernel
Easy to change once kernel source is out
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it does not matter, but lower the frequency smaller heat output? especially while the case is water resistant so no air circulation
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it does not matter, but lower the frequency smaller heat output? especially while the case is water resistant so no air circulation
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I underclock my phones up to a minimum of 900mhz(it's a dual core msm8x60 processor) and still when watching videos, browsing the web and playing games(Like angry birds) for a minimum of 40minutes then the phone get's hotter already. This might not be the case for S4 processors since they have lower nanometer(nm) but still I'm pretty sure it would still get hot.
Regarding no air circulation... That's one of the main causes of overheating since the heat would be more stagnant. The more flow of air inside the phone the lesser it is to likely overheat.
My phone gets pretty hot when gaming. Does this happen to anyone else?
Your phone has a quad core processor and brilliant screen inside of an all metal body. Of course its going to get hot. Other phones(my old gs3 for example ) get just as hot. You just don't notice it due to the plastic body.
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acme64 said:
My phone gets pretty hot when gaming. Does this happen to anyone else?
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Metal is a better conductor of heat than most other phones (various types of glass and plastics). It will feel warmer, even at the same temperature.
The plus side of it feeling warmer is that, ironically, the internals should be cooler, all things equal.
Well does your pc get hot while gaming ? Does the Xbox or ps3 yup so safe to assume heavy gpu tasked games will make it hot . Try to not be charging at the same time . Remember no removal of the battery so when it gets to hot we have little recourse to cool the AC works though lol
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I've never had a metal phone before. Didn't even occur to me the frame would be the heatsink as well. I can breathe easier now thanks
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I just bought my Nexus 4 about 3 weeks ago, and noticed that it get considerably hot, and I mean, Reallyyyy hot, even when im not using.
So I've been trying out several roms and kernels and finally found the perfect solution and thought I should share it with everyone out there facing the same issue.
Just flash the latest stable version of CyanogenMod, and do not flash any extra kernels with it, leave it as it is, and notice the difference, it doesnt even heat up that much anymore, not even with extreme gaming.
Another tip, if u have touch control, or wave control installed, make sure they arnt working in the background as they keep the alot of sensors working even while the screen is off.
Just thought i'd share this.
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problem is, threads like this keep continuing the falsity that the n4 has an overheating issue, when really it does not. its supposed to heat up with use, every similar device does, many even warmer then the n4. my question to you is, what temperatures did your nexus 4 reach that you are saying it "overheated"? cpu temp? battery temp? if it actually overheats, theres a safety mechanism in the device that will shut it down so it can cool off. plus, the n4 has that glass back, that makes it "feel" hotter than it actually is. if it had a plastic, carbon fiber, or metal back, you wouldnt really feel it.
also, very important, what is the air temperature around you?
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problem is, threads like this keep continuing the falsity that the n4 has an overheating issue, when really it does not. its supposed to heat up with use, every similar device does, many even warmer then the n4. my question to you is, what temperatures did your nexus 4 reach that you are saying it "overheated"? cpu temp? battery temp? if it actually overheats, theres a safety mechanism in the device that will shut it down so it can cool off. plus, the n4 has that glass back, that makes it "feel" hotter than it actually is. if it had a plastic, carbon fiber, or metal back, you wouldnt really feel it.
also, very important, what is the air temperature around you?
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This.
Guys, just google any smartphone powered by dual+ core+overheating problem+xda and I assure you will find similar threads. The last device I didn't feel much heat on was galaxy r with tegra2 1ghz. Everything more powerful than that was noticeably warmer. But honestly I really don't think that N4 gets warmer than my old S2.
Yeah temperature around you is very important. Let's say you ride the bus on hot sunny day and check some websites. It's not browsing itself that causes overheating, but the combination of few factors. The device is actually already warmer than usual when you take it out of the pocket.
If the phone was overheating, it would turn off. Yes, it gets warm, but not as warm as you think. You only notice it because it has a glass back. Mine isn't getting any hotter than my old nexus s. Under heavy use, it doesn't go above 45C, which is an OK temp.
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To all three responses above me:
Fine it might not overheat to the point of melting or burning or even getting damaged but it does reach throttle temps and get uncomfortable to touch at times. Both of these are issues. Your phone should not be too hot to keep on your ear during a conversation, nor make your palm sweat excessively from holding it. It would also be ideal if your quad phone 1.5GHz phone stayed at 1.5GHz when under load. If it is forced to go below that, there is a good reason for threads like these.
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My nexus 4 reached up to 77C. It never shut off or anything. I called Google and they said as long as everything still works its fine. I thought it was a lame answer but we will see. Battery got up to 56C.
younix258 said:
To all three responses above me:
Fine it might not overheat to the point of melting or burning or even getting damaged but it does reach throttle temps and get uncomfortable to touch at times. Both of these are issues. Your phone should not be too hot to keep on your ear during a conversation, nor make your palm sweat excessively from holding it. It would also be ideal if your quad phone 1.5GHz phone stayed at 1.5GHz when under load. If it is forced to go below that, there is a good reason for threads like these.
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1. Throttle temps are actual very low.
2. It's glass. Glass absorbs hest from the ambient air very easily ( it is summer for many) and from the inside of the device.
3. The phone shouldn't get to hot to hold to ear. I have never felt the display to be hot. Unless it was in direct sunlight.
4. All modern smartphone phones will throttle. Yes this one is more aggressive than most but they all do it. The amount of power all the modern high end chips can draw under load is the highest it has ever been. So they get hotter than ever. Since they are passively cooled, even the best designed phone under full load will throttle.
5. The only good reason for threads like this is to inform the user there isn't a problem. There are no issues.
younix258 said:
To all three responses above me:
Fine it might not overheat to the point of melting or burning or even getting damaged but it does reach throttle temps and get uncomfortable to touch at times. Both of these are issues. Your phone should not be too hot to keep on your ear during a conversation, nor make your palm sweat excessively from holding it. It would also be ideal if your quad phone 1.5GHz phone stayed at 1.5GHz when under load. If it is forced to go below that, there is a good reason for threads like these.
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thats the thing, its not a phone. its much much more than that. you ever feel how hot a laptop could get? anyways, i do agree with you with one point, that lg, or google, chose to set the cpu throttle temperature too low as a default. having root, i choose to disable thermal throttle, so i never have an issue with with my cpu being throttled down. i sympathize there with non rooted users. but thats only a software fix(the difference is changing a Y to a N in a file), thats not an issue with the n4 overheating.
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1. Throttle temps are actual very low.
2. It's glass. Glass absorbs hest from the ambient air very easily ( it is summer for many) and from the inside of the device.
3. The phone shouldn't get to hot to hold to ear. I have never felt the display to be hot. Unless it was in direct sunlight.
4. All modern smartphone phones will throttle. Yes this one is more aggressive than most but they all do it. The amount of power all the modern high end chips can draw under load is the highest it has ever been. So they get hotter than ever. Since they are passively cooled, even the best designed phone under full load will throttle.
5. The only good reason for threads like this is to inform the user there isn't a problem. There are no issues.
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you look familiar to me, where have i seen you..
Waiting for you to post the solution on how to use the volume buttons on the side of the phone.
What do you expect with no laptop class ventilation?
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youssef.sala7 said:
I just bought my Nexus 4 about 3 weeks ago, and noticed that it get considerably hot, and I mean, Reallyyyy hot, even when im not using.
So I've been trying out several roms and kernels and finally found the perfect solution and thought I should share it with everyone out there facing the same issue.
Just flash the latest stable version of CyanogenMod, and do not flash any extra kernels with it, leave it as it is, and notice the difference, it doesnt even heat up that much anymore, not even with extreme gaming.
Another tip, if u have touch control, or wave control installed, make sure they arnt working in the background as they keep the alot of sensors working even while the screen is off.
Just thought i'd share this.
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My N4 get realy hot too, when i'm outside (38C-42C) i can't talk because it burns my years but i see MIUI and 4.3 the heatting issue is gone, i mean it's still hot sometimes but not burning.
I've got a Optimus Black when it first appeard and i got even hotter...
Actually, the Nexus 4 is more prone to overheating than, say, the almost identical Optimus G. Something about a small space in the Nexus 4 somewhere that doesn't conduct heat as efficiently away from the SoC, unlike the Optimus G.
However, like said before, it is summer for most people and it got hot in the UK, so your phone will be warmer than usual if left in the pocket or in the sunshine, but you can't expect to use a phone that's running at 55C-60C by only browsing, can you? Have you guys noticed the drastic temperature difference between wifi usage (low temps) vs data usage (high temps)? This pattern is present in most if not all phones but not as drastic as this, no way.
Then again, sometimes Franco's app is reporting 40-45 C and the phone feels really cool to the touch, and another moment, it's reporting 38 C and the back feels hot, so there's lots of factors that play in this.
Make sure you keep the phone out of the sun, and use Wakelock Detector to see if any rogue apps are holding a dirty wakelock doing lots of syncing especially over data (recent Whatsapp versions have been producing fullsync wakelocks with me everyday).
Disclaimer: other than hot weather and normal heating of the phone, i have not experienced any abnormal overheating, but have a friend who has. My normal temps are 34 C - 38 C, even in hot weather with most of my usage on wifi. Outside in hot weather gets to 42 C - 44 C but that's understandable.
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Then again, sometimes Franco's app is reporting 40-45 C and the phone feels really cool to the touch, and another moment, it's reporting 38 C and the back feels hot, so there's lots of factors that play in this.
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this thought that coolnow just had..
feel doesnt report a temperature, feel only shows that something is warmer than/cooler than whatever body part you are touching it with. its all relative to your body temperature. try this experiment.. get 3 glasses of water, one hot water, one ice water, one room temperature water. at the same time, stick one hand into the hot water and the other in the ice water. keep them in there for a minute. now pull both of your hands out and stick them both in the same glass of room temperature water at the same time. this will mess with your senses, so be warned! the hand that was in the hot water, will feel the room temperature water to be cold, the hand that was in the ice water will feel the room temperature water to be very warm, while they are both in the same glass of water. so you see, reporting how something feels is very inaccurate and unreliable.
As simms22 point out about the feel, that is a terrible way to judge it.
Also so is the actual number from franco's app. His app measures the cpu (Soc) temp. It doesn't also include the battery temp. The higher battery temp will make the phone feel hotter even if the cpu temp is basically the same. Example when changing from the wall. It's also much larger than the SoC so it warms up a gesture surface area more quickly than just the SoC.
It's also located on the middle to lower part of the phone where it is more common to have your hand. Compared to the near the top / camera location for the SoC
Another thing that is obvious but I never mentioned. Is the phone is black. A black glass phone in summer sunlight ( on a call holding the phone up to your ear) will get hot. Even if the thing was turned off.
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this thought that coolnow just had..
feel doesnt report a temperature, feel only shows that something is warmer than/cooler than whatever body part you are touching it with. its all relative to your body temperature. try this experiment.. get 3 glasses of water, one hot water, one ice water, one room temperature water. at the same time, stick one hand into the hot water and the other in the ice water. keep them in there for a minute. now pull both of your hands out and stick them both in the same glass of room temperature water at the same time. this will mess with your senses, so be warned! the hand that was in the hot water, will feel the room temperature water to be cold, the hand that was in the ice water will feel the room temperature water to be very warm, while they are both in the same glass of water. so you see, reporting how something feels is very inaccurate and unreliable.
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That's exactly what i'm saying, reporting what you feel, especially on a glass backing that the Nexus 4 has, is inaccurate (and everyone who went through highschool biology knows our sense of temperature is just a measure of temperature difference).
coolnow said:
Wow, it took you 158 words to get to my point? That's exactly what i'm saying, reporting what you feel, especially on a glass backing that the Nexus 4 has, is inaccurate (and everyone who went through highschool biology knows our sense of temperature is just a measure of temperature difference). But thanks anyway for your useless post :good:
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In case you didn't notice, Simms22 was not arguing against you but supplementing your arguments instead. In layman's term, you are both playing for the same team. So stop fighting amongst yourselves.
At this point I think we can all agree that in terms of actual temperature the Nexus 4 is not (much) hotter than other phones with similar specs. However, there is probably something about the design and/or materials used that causes people to worry (and complain) about the phone overheating. Now if you good folks want to figure out what actually causes the phone to "feel" hotter in comparison to other phones, feel free to proceed. I have no doubt that it will become an interesting topic.
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In case you didn't notice, Simms22 was not arguing against you but supplementing your arguments instead. In layman's term, you are both playing for the same team. So stop fighting amongst yourselves.
At this point I think we can all agree that in terms of actual temperature the Nexus 4 is not (much) hotter than other phones with similar specs. However, there is probably something about the design and/or materials used that causes people to worry (and complain) about the phone overheating. Now if you good folks want to figure out what actually causes the phone to "feel" hotter in comparison to other phones, feel free to proceed. I have no doubt that it will become an interesting topic.
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Somehow, i took his post as heavy sarcasm. I've edited my post.
coolnow said:
Wow, it took you 158 words to get to my point? That's exactly what i'm saying, reporting what you feel, especially on a glass backing that the Nexus 4 has, is inaccurate (and everyone who went through highschool biology knows our sense of temperature is just a measure of temperature difference). But thanks anyway for your useless post :good:
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In case you didn't notice, Simms22 was not arguing against you but supplementing your arguments instead. In layman's term, you are both playing for the same team. So stop fighting amongst yourselves.
At this point I think we can all agree that in terms of actual temperature the Nexus 4 is not (much) hotter than other phones with similar specs. However, there is probably something about the design and/or materials used that causes people to worry (and complain) about the phone overheating. Now if you good folks want to figure out what actually causes the phone to "feel" hotter in comparison to other phones, feel free to proceed. I have no doubt that it will become an interesting topic.
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really, i wasnt arguing with you, i was backing you up, explaining, because unfortunately most people dont know that feel is just a measure of temperature difference.
what i think the issue is, is that lg(or google) had the cpu throttle temp set too low on stock devices, giving people a noticeable reduction in performance within a normal temperature range, plus the whole glass back thing, therefore freaking out many. enjoying the freedoms of root access, i disable thermal throttle, so i dont notice any of the affects that the throttle would cause.
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Somehow, i took his post as heavy sarcasm. I've edited my post.
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and im out of thanks, but thanks
It is true that the Nexus 4 is heating more that other devices, it has been know even before its release. I had them too at first, when using heavy apps or games. But some roms and kernels make it heat more than normal because they are putting the cpu freq constantly at the max (1.5 GHz), that's why some users have problems constantly. I use the Paranoid Android rom, which is pretty light speaking of cpu usage, and franko kernel putting the max cpu freq at 1Ghz, also lowering the voltages. It helps a lot.
Every device I've ever had, htc desire, archos 70it, galaxy s2, galaxy s3, galaxy tab 10.1, nexus 7, nexus 4 and nexus 10 all have a new thread like this every week, just because the device "feels" hot. All our SoC are so powerful these days do have a high TDP and that's made worse by our SoC's relying on passive cooling. We won't have cool CPU's anytime soon, unless you want a fan or any other active cooling mechanism. Anything under ~80C is fairly safe for modern SoC's and isn't really anything to worry about. When you CPU get's too hot it will aid passively cooling by thermal throttling the CPU to a lower Frequency and if it carries on going up, then it will shut down before any damage is done. With all my devices I've done the same test, Undervolt, turn stress test on when SoC is at ideal temp and time how long it take to reach a certain temp. Repeat the experiment several times. I found that my nexus 10 heats up by far the fastest, thanks 32nm A15's and the nexus 4 was one of the coolest, only being beaten by my galaxy tab 10.1, 40nm dual core A9. To be fair, I do have a faster binned chip. Even my 1.4ghz exynos 4412 s3's core temp was higher than the n4's, you just couldn't feel it as much through the plastic. The nexus 4's heat dissipation even with the minor fault compared to the optimus G is reasonably good.
Hello to everyone,
owning the N5 for over a month now with moderate use over the day, I see first signs of wear.
On the top left corner (frontfacing) I've already polished the rubberised paint away and it gets glossy.
Have to say that this is the part of the phone that hits the inside of the pocket first when I put it in my trousers.
But for me it's a little bit of a disappointment, especially because the N4 showed this first after 8 months!
How is your N5 holding up so far?
Cheers,
Flaxx
EDIT: Forgot to mention: Black N5
Mines fine. But then it is white so the sides are already glossy....
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Mines fine too (black version), but mine spends most of it's time on my desk or in my hands :laugh:
Is is worth an RMA? Surely it shouldnt wear down so quickly??
ricey1986 said:
Mines fine too (black version), but mine spends most of it's time on my desk or in my hands :laugh:
Is is worth an RMA? Surely it shouldnt wear down so quickly??
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Thought about RMAing it, but the rest of the phone is flawless: no problem with random noise in call or videorecording, vibrator motor, display (first RMA) and the little noise of the power button not bothering me at all.
The possibility of getting a bad phone is "too damn high" I guess. :laugh:
My N5 wears down slightly on the upper back edges. Just the outer edges are becoming blank. But I consider it as normal because regardless of the material edges are always very prone to wear of. I don't have a problem with that as long as it stays that subtle.
BTW. I am using a day one device.
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mine has one scratch on the back, otherwise still in mint condition
Nathanation said:
Mines fine. But then it is white so the sides are already glossy....
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Normal wear and tear that causes paint to wear off does not warrant an RMA.
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G1ForFun said:
Normal wear and tear that causes paint to wear off does not warrant an RMA.
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Sure it does.Everyone should RMA at that point. I mean why wouldn't you want to pay an extra $50 or more on the next Nexus. /sarcasm
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Normal wear and tear that causes paint to wear off does not warrant an RMA.
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Why are telling me? White = glossy sides. No wear problem.
Black = matte effect sides (and poor choice in colour ?) wears off. Anything with that kind of finish will wear, I don't think they would give you a replacement for it.
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Flaxx1988 said:
owning the N5 for over a month now with moderate use over the day, I see first signs of wear.
On the top left corner (frontfacing) I've already polished the rubberised paint away and it gets glossy.
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I have a weared out spot on left top corner of the screen. Looks like oleophobic coating on this phone's screen is even less durable than on GN and N4. Disappointed. White 16GB.
Well the build quality is lower than HTC, what do you expect?
Now i get why the price is lower with high specs..!
Smart Google and LG..!
It's basically plastic wrapped around a screen and small underpowered battery
no case
Expect wear.
No wear on dropped and tossed with car keys and small change Black N5... with QuickCover !
It's exactly the phone I was wishing for, "relative" build quality, toughness and all. The N5 won't ever age as well as my old N1 -- nor feel as substantial when handheld, but I'm still thrilled with the unmatched value of the N5, the fit with my needs, and still will be even if it craps out early. And I'll be longing for the next+ Nexus by then, anyway...
dicecuber said:
It's basically plastic wrapped around a screen and small underpowered battery
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This small underpowered battery gets amazing battery life. 5 to 5.5 hours screen on time I'm happy. Great design too :thumbup:. I love how this phone feels in hand and it feels to me the build is worth much more than the price tag. I have a black n5 BTW but I have a white back on at the moment.
Also to reply to what this threads about I have a day one device that I received the Monday after launch and its still mint. I use a bumper maybe 50% of the time and I use skinomi screen protectors.
>^.^< Sent From Meow nexus5
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I have a weared out spot on left top corner of the screen. Looks like oleophobic coating on this phone's screen is even less durable than on GN and N4. Disappointed. White 16GB.
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That is strange. It's rated at 20,000 wipes with rough cloth by Corning and surely you haven't come near that or used harsh chemicals on it.