I was looking at the 18MBPS LTE speeds in canada and was confused. I'm getting a consistant 14-17 MBPS on HSPA+. What's with the rush for LTE?
I got 17.56Mbps. However, according to the LTE thread, some people in Canada can get up to ~40-50 Mbps...
Did a speed test the other day on T-Mobile HSPA+ and I got over 20. Not bad considering my home internet connection is 25. My Nexus 4 is lightning fast on HSPA+, I'm not seeing the need to switch to LTE either for at least a couple more years.
I have reached 21 Mbps download and 3 Mbps upload. LTE is average 30+ download and upload.
HSPA+ saves battery and LTE kills it.
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The reason LTE is better is that is generally has lower latency speeds and absolutely has faster upload speeds.
In the US, AT&T has terrible 3G speeds. But T-mobile's HSPA network is generally really fast. So it really depends on your provider. And yes, LTE has very little latency. But if you are on T-mobile and have great coverage, I don't think LTE would be a big change. Unless you are tethering, LTE vs HSPA+ is not a huge difference.
People need to learn the difference of MB and Mb
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People need to learn the difference of MB and Mb
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The shift key?
I haven't had super stellar HSPA+ speeds around town (Portland, OR, on T-Mobile) but just now I did one and got 24.2Mbps down, 5Mbps up. :good: Good enough for me by far. That's faster than my home internet.
Edit: Wait, that was my home internet. Up too late last night... 13Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up. That's still not bad.
If we do enable the LTE part of the phone, does that mean our battery life would be depleting faster?
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If we do enable the LTE part of the phone, does that mean our battery life would be depleting faster?
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The other day I got 63mbps on my Nexus 4, take that T Mobile
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The other day I got 63mbps on my Nexus 4, take that T Mobile
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But T-Mobile is going to construct an AWS LTE network in the US, and it will be newer than the LTE on other carriers.
People also forget.
What is the use of 50 Mbps download if the website you are looking at only displays at 10 Mbps up?
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I guess a lot of people hoping for LTE are on AT&T. I get a bit 2-3 Mbps down, 1-1.5 Mbps up (250-375 KB/s and 125-188 KB/s, I don't get why people use bits for bandwidth when everyone is clearly more familiar with bytes...).
I wonder if you need a smartphone plan on AT&T to get LTE on an off-network-branded device. I'm using MediaNET and I'd rather pay $10 for unlimited 3G than $25 for 2GB of 4G. If we can eventually use LTE incognito on AT&T and keep our MediaNET plans, I'll be happy. Doesn't really make a difference to me either way. 3G speeds are more than good enough for browsing. I don't mind a little buffering if I'm streaming HD video on the go.
I have vzw lte and tmo hspa (via straight talk) with both I see ~10Mbps in and around southern california, so I too see no need to rush out for an LTE phone AND I figure the n5 will have it so in a year this will all be moot.
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I guess a lot of people hoping for LTE are on AT&T. I get a bit 2-3 Mbps down, 1-1.5 Mbps up (250-375 KB/s and 125-188 KB/s, I don't get why people use bits for bandwidth when everyone is clearly more familiar with bytes...).
I wonder if you need a smartphone plan on AT&T to get LTE on an off-network-branded device. I'm using MediaNET and I'd rather pay $10 for unlimited 3G than $25 for 2GB of 4G. If we can eventually use LTE incognito on AT&T and keep our MediaNET plans, I'll be happy. Doesn't really make a difference to me either way. 3G speeds are more than good enough for browsing. I don't mind a little buffering if I'm streaming HD video on the go.
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Pre payed att you do require a smartphone plan to get the full speed. It will be like 50 bucks I believe..
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You guys are lucky. I literally get less than .2Mbps down/up where I live due to it being 2G :crying:. Always on my 30/5 WiFi. Sometimes I'll get upwards of 5 in the city. Some "4G" eh? T-Mobile is an absolute joke for me here and I HATE it.
LTE is king for latency.
I play a lot of counterstrike, and there used to be a regular who'd play over VZW LTE. Guy had lower latency than I did over cable. More important, he seemed completely fluid in the game-- no jitter or packet loss. Completely playable. That's huge.
Your thread title's pretty misleading. There is a big difference between 16.5MBPS and 16.5MbPS.
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I got a nexus one with at&t in NYC. I was usually getting around 1.2 mbps down with peaks of 2.7 mbps in Brooklyn. In Manhattan, I was on average 2.2 mbps down and peaks of 2.9 mbps. Today all of a sudden I get 3.5 mbps average with peake of 3.8mbps with 1.4 mbps upload. Did at&t upgrade to hspa+?
I just tested again a couple of times throughout the hour and avg now is about 2.7, And i had a peak of 3.6
Technically the Nexus one cannot get full hspa+ speeds. It will see a bump, but will never go over 7.2 or really even come close to it. The limit is 7.2mbps downlink. Yes, you will see the improvements you have though, congrats. I'm in Chicago where Tmobile has not yet covered the whole city in hspa+ or even started for that matter to my knowledge. Hopefully soon though so I can get the speeds your getting.
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Technically the Nexus one cannot get full hspa+ speeds. It will see a bump, but will never go over 7.2 or really even come close to it. The limit is 7.2mbps downlink. Yes, you will see the improvements you have though, congrats. I'm in Chicago where Tmobile has not yet covered the whole city in hspa+ or even started for that matter to my knowledge. Hopefully soon though so I can get the speeds your getting.
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The Nexus One I am assuming does not have the hardware for HSPA+ or is there another limiting factor?
It is hardware limited. But for both At&t and Tmobile there will be speed increases from their upgraded networks. Just not full hspa+
This guy is spamming the forums. He has started 4 threads today all on almost the same thing. This thread is even the same word for word, just with different numbers. What is with these people?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696552
I have cognition rom and instead of having 3g I have this H internet. It sits on 3g for a milla second then switches to H. My buddy with iphone four is getting way higher speed tests than me, why can't I get 3g and get better speeds?
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Since this has only been answered 100 times in the past three weeks...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=H+instead+of+3g+XDA
AND as far as the better speeds for the Iphone go......you can Google that as well............ I'm guessing your on At&T?
I don't know why but my buddies 3g was consistently hitting 300-350 kbs. The max I was hitting was like 150. We were right next to each other when we were testing this, I guess that the iphone blows the captivate away in 3g reception and speed. Also in the spotty areas he was keeping his 3g and I was dropping down to edge. Kinda disappointed . Had anyone else noticed that the 3g reception isn't that good our is it just my area?
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I have cognition rom and instead of having 3g I have this H internet. It sits on 3g for a milla second then switches to H. My buddy with iphone four is getting way higher speed tests than me, why can't I get 3g and get better speeds?
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this is why i hate american cell providers, they want you to remain ignorant. it's not your fault but it is funny that people arent familiar with grps, edge, hspa, and hspa+ it is like they are telling you that you are too stupid to understand so you dont need to know.
the cdma providers are the worst. but att should be proud of having hspa, but i think they want to hide the fact that it is not available in all 3g areas. instead they advertise the hspa speeds as there 3g speeds as hspa works on there 3g network. they dont distinguish the two so you think there network is so much faster in so many places
meanwhile verizon advertises the hspa coverage for att as 3g coverage to make att's coverage look smaller. they say they have so much more coverage, if they showed a current 3g map for att instead of the hspa coverage you would not see a big difference at all. also cdma 3g is totally different from what att has and is not a fair comparison in the first place. how can you compare coverage if the speed is not comparable?
Comparing phones side by side with speed test is also not the best way to test which device is faster, especially if they are on the same network. I am annoyed by the input on this device or Id go in depth. Use some google-foo and read on cell phone signaling and theory and youll see what I mean.
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So I just bought a galaxy skyrocket for my wife. I'm in an LTE area. It is TEN TIMES FASTER on the skyrocket than the Note. Literally 10x. Used SpeedTest. Averaged 12800 download and 12200 upload. That's faster than my wifi. My note gets 1380 download and 380 upload. Horrendous!
I couldn't believe it. Now I realise why LTE is so good. Of course there aren't many people using LTE yet in NYC but still. That's unreal.
I have continued to test the Note v the Skyrocket and I think its not just LTE. I switched the sim but the lte sim didn't work on the note. However the note sim worked in the skyrocket and it still showed 2-3 x the note speed in a non LTE location. I cant get more than 1800 download when the skytocket shows 7000 in the same location same network. I tried the apn setting from the skyrocket but it doesn't work on the note. On wifi the skyroxket also showed double or more speed. Its very odd.
Anyone got any ideas?
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SpeedTest. Averaged 12800 download and 12200 upload. That's father than my wifi. My note gets 1380 download and 380 upload. Horrendous!
I couldn't believe it. Now I realise why LTE is so good. Of course there aren't many people using LTE yet in NYC but still.
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I am not going to say LTE is slower than HSPA+, because it should not be.
BUT, what I can tell you is HSPA+ can be really fast, and it usually never is a matter of the cellphone, but the network.
My Note, in a random speedtest I did yesterday:
That's pretty much 9Mbps down and 3Mbps.
That reduces a lot the diference to what you can get with LTE.
I would choose for improving a lot HSPA+ networks before starting with LTE...
By the way, during busiest hours of the day I can always get 5-6Mbps down and 2-3Mbps up.
At night, it is easy to see 11+Mbps
My network is Vodafone Spain, which here it is HSPA+ 14.4Mbps. And the tests I make are in Valencia, Spain.
I used to have the T-Mobile Galaxy S2 same hardware as the ATT skyrocket just no LTE.
I use to pull down 16-18Mbps on their 4G network, super fast almost matching my home cable internet.
Unfortunately the Note doesn't support T-Mobile's 4G so I had to switch to AT&T, now on average I get about 1.5-3Mbps, and most I've seen is peak to 7Mbps.
On T-Mobile I paid $20 a month for 5GB of data, now I'm paying AT&T $25 a month for 2GB! Too bad T-Mobile wasn't able to run my note on full data speeds or else I'd never switch.
wierdly side by side with the skyrocket in a Non LTE area the skyrocket still gets double the speed on H. On wifi it does the same.
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wierdly side by side with the skyrocket in a Non LTE area the skyrocket still gets double the speed on H. On wifi it does the same.
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Speed on a smartphone literally means squat. Those super fast speeds on the ****rocket are almost never utilized because of its crappy Snapdragon chipset.
The speed advantage that LTE phones have is almost never seen when browsing or anything because the Snapdragon is a piece of trash chipset. It's laggy, unreliable, but its the only chipset that works on LTE phones.
Thats why Im NEVER buying an LTE ****phone till they find a SoC that can outperform the 1.4ghz Exynos and put it in an LTE phone.That won't happen for a long long time. 12 months min.
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@ eker - it must be your APN - i get about 3-3.5k down and 1.2k up
but I also get a MUCH better reception than my inspire 4g (in same spots that inspire barely got any reception, I get 2-3+ bars, and the whole thing just seems faster. I used standard APN settings - same as I used on my Inspire.
I'm in Boston area - and we got this retard heaven - Brookline, where they banned cell tower - so I used to not get any reception in many spots - now I do, and it's somewhat faster (internet speed that is) - in youtube for example
That's a lot of anger. Its just a phone... anyway in side by side tests with the note, loading web pages running maps or Google earth... actually every app, the phone speed is about the same. Have you actually tied the skyrocket????
I am happy with the note but trying to figure out why, in non LTE and side by side in wifi, the skyrocket is still significantly faster than the note. It feels a generation faster which is weird.
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Speed on a smartphone literally means squat. Those super fast speeds on the ****rocket are almost never utilized because of its crappy Snapdragon chipset.
The speed advantage that LTE phones have is almost never seen when browsing or anything because the Snapdragon is a piece of trash chipset. It's laggy, unreliable, but its the only chipset that works on LTE phones.
Thats why Im NEVER buying an LTE ****phone till they find a SoC that can outperform the 1.4ghz Exynos and put it in an LTE phone.That won't happen for a long long time. 12 months min.
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Slow speeds?
On at&t. I know they have a huge r&d operation in Israel but not Dubai
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This thread is simply voting which data you use and why.
I personally am using 3G (HSPA+ 21) even though I could use 4G (I live in Canada), mainly because of the poor battery like I'm experiencing with this device if used on 4G.
So what are you using? And why?
Using 3G+ (42) because the 4G frequency in Australia doesn't work with the N4, or most phones unless a special model comes out like the 4G version of the S3
Just plain ol' 21/42 MBps H+
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3G, no choice, if 4G was an option I'd probably give it a shot but if I noticed extreme battery drain I would go back to 3G as well.
Edge
i live in canada too, but i did several tests, using 4g makes the voice call quality really bad. so i stick with 3g now
I use both... I get pretty decent speed on DC-HSPA about 20mbps down easy... I use lte mainly so i can stream youtube in hd instead of hq!
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HSDPA. 1 operator is just beginning to roll out 4G in the major cities here in Belgium, so no choice
And I don't think the LTE chip works here anyway.
I used Edge at work. it streams better for me. Always has. Since iphone 3g. I think its the building I work in. Soon as I leave it, H+ works like it should.
At home I use Wireless and 4g
Soooooo I'm not the only one who is preferring 3G over 4G? Yay lol
I would barf in my mouth before I use 3g.
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Faux G aka HSPA+ (21.1 and 14.4) w/EB here as well.
My Provider has just HSPA+ 15 but I mostly hav HSPA+ 10. But that's no problem at all, because I'm used to it. At home (on Computer) I get just about 7 so I'm totally happy.
3G is broken... Once this thing connects top umts or hspa 10 there's no data transmission until it finds hspa+15 again...
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3g in Canada. 4g decimates my battery, which is already kind of disappointing personally.
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A mix of EDGE, 21, and 42 depending on where I am during my day.
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GPRS/EDGE by preference, no point wasting battery power attempting to connect to crappy 3G signal!
3G for me. I've tried 4G and while I like the speeds, my battery takes a considerable hit.
I live in Canada as well. I've only just started using 4G for the past few days (Rogers) and I think I'm going to be sticking with it. Data speeds have improved significantly. I don't seem to have that decrease in voice call quality that someone else mentioned and my battery life is actually not that much worse compared to 3G.
Technically, there is not a network in the US that's adhering to the actual 4G standard. Verizon's LTE may offer slightly better latency, and a better upload speed than T-Mobile, but your wallet will be taking a huge hit, and you'll only have 2GB of data for $110 after taxes and FCC fees. Is LTE really worth more than $100 a month? I don't think so.
I'm using T-Mobile's network and I'm very happy with the speeds. If T-Mobile is prevalent in your area, and you don't travel very often to remote areas, their $30 prepaid plan is definitely worth it. I'm witnessing over 22Mb down on the 42Mbps towers, and I'm averaging roughly 10Mb down everywhere else. I'm about 35 miles from a major urban city, btw.
My phone is showing 4G LTE icon with either full bars or close to it, yet my speeds are horrible. Speed test app would show like 0.29 Mbps on average. I've seen this phone reach high speeds like 39 Mbps elsewhere, but around here it's pretty bad. Data speeds would be slow or I get connection time out errors. During less busy times, I might sometimes reach 1-4 Mbps, but that's temporary. Is there something I could do to get some usable speeds? I remember back in tmo gs1 days, I could edit the build.prop with some lines and improved my speeds. I am on a 910T3 rooted phone with a custom rom on a DOK2 modem. Thank you.
They may working on tower close to you. Call tmo tech support and let them know. I remember when similar situation was going in my area, switching to 4g instead lte gave me faster download/upload speeds.
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They may working on tower close to you. Call tmo tech support and let them know. I remember when similar situation was going in my area, switching to 4g instead lte gave me faster download/upload speeds.
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They recently put up Extended Range LTE in my city, but the speeds/signal look like the same as before. I guess I'll contact them. Thanks.