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I went online at exactly 12:00 PM when the play store opened and had my new Nexus 4 16 gig model in the shopping cart and was checking out when I was kicked out of the site from an processing error.
When I went to select the 16 gig model to begin the process over again, the "coming soon" message appeared and wanted my email address. This is total bull****, a company the size of Google can't even launch a product properly?
Now both the 8 and 16 models can't even be selected from the site. I have been waiting and waiting for this phone to be released and can't even buy one. Total bull****.
I suspect it's to generate hype for it. I was lucky enough to get one of the 8gb restocks about 6 hours ago.
Happened to me also! Worst store around!!
Same thing happened to me. Oh well I guess I'll update my Galexy Nexus and Nexus7 to 4.2 and try again later.
Same as everyone else. I tried for 25mins got the same errors. Went to a store and bought one. Never buying through Google again
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keep refreshing throughout the day. I've seen the COMING SOON page switch to IN STOCK a few times already, so I 'd imagine this will happen throughout the day as orders fail and phones go back to stock.
Cant get it either
We've all been waiting mate. Many people are being very cynical towards Google. I don't think people understand how many people are accessing their sites simultaneously. I also think people aren't used to not getting what they want. To think people expect Google to be able to support the world's demand for the Nexus 4.
Play store started the sale before 9am (PST).
Such a joke. We got troll'd
You can't even get the bumpers either. . . :-/
yeah i know it is just a phone but that is serious bs.... it's google how can their server be that bad.. do you guys even think there were that many for sale? I doubt it really sold out a ton of units in 5 mins...
Wish I could just preorder it and have them send it to me when they get stock ASAP. It'd be unbelievably more convenient for them and for us, since they would get an idea of the amount of sales and we wouldn't have to worry about not getting one in the next few weeks.
Same here I wonder if we crashed the system. Cant see how as google runs most of the internet.
Silly make a few phones.
Wonder did they think we don't now a steal when we see one. I'll bet we will see them on EBAY for 500 to 600 easy come christmas time they'll go for 900 and up.
Merry Christmas were screwed. Worst part I'll bet some people bought like 100 plus phones. Just so rip people off. Google didn't even stop and say you can only use one phone and purchase up to 5 for your family.
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Never any purchase delays when Google has 10 cent app sales. They have the capacity to handle this smoothly. It is all a big marketing fiasco and Google pooped on its most determined customers.
Crazy to say 12. Have us guess what time zone. Have reps say different ****. Then say 9 PST but sell it beforehand. Many of us wasted our time to this.
I mean, I am not iFan or anything, but all around the world where Nexus 4 was available for purchase was sold out in a blink of an eye.
Is this successful for Google or bad? What do you guys think.
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No they just have less units available at launch
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Can't say but I doubt it. I'm pretty sure that Google just had WAAAYYYYYY less stock than the iPhone 5! Just a marketing stunt imo
3 of my friends and 2 cousins who have been up since last night sitting infront of their computer, couldn't get theirs. I'm sure there are many more like that out there right now. After Nexus 7, imo Google should have been prepared, maybe should have gone with a solo US launch first and cover the rest of the world after 2 weeks or so. Works for Samsung every single time.
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3 of my friends and 2 cousins who have been up since last night sitting infront of their computer, couldn't get theirs. I'm sure there are many more like that out there right now. After Nexus 7, imo Google should have been prepared, maybe should have gone with a solo US launch first and cover the rest of the world after 2 weeks or so. Works for Samsung every single time.
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Being in France I think I'd have to say why don't they cover the "rest of the world" first and leave America to last?.... :silly:
hopefully this was just to test the waters to make sure there is a demand before they make more since they are selling these at a loss. hopefully they restore stock before the holidays.
lol, nothing against any other country, just be easier on everyone to not have a bad experience this way. But I must say, this is by far the most popular Nexus Cellphone, LG and Google got this one for sure. I'm happy thou, because it will only get better from here.
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Can't say but I doubt it. I'm pretty sure that Google just had WAAAYYYYYY less stock than the iPhone 5! Just a marketing stunt imo
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Yep, smells somewhat like a PR-stunt to me. No offense to Google, but such a big company (that makes its money througn market analytics and advertising), not prepared for this huge demand after the success of the N7 and the low-pricing-policy? Hard to think of...
This is all speculation, but they could be after the exact headline of this thread coming to major newspapers tomorrow, certainly not a bad thing in terms of PR.
I personally think, that they made a low amount of devices available at the launch hoping for a sell-out like it has only happened with Apple products. Main stash of devices will be available soon, there has to be some over-stock before the holidays, they won't loose all the possible sales at this time of the year where customers tend to spend the most money on electronic devices.
But as I said, all speculations, no offense. I could be wrong
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Yep, smells somewhat like a PR-stunt to me. No offense to Google, but such a big company (that makes its money througn market analytics and advertising), not prepared for this huge demand after the success of the N7 and the low-pricing-policy? Hard to think of...
This is all speculation, but they could be after the exact headline of this thread coming to major newspapers tomorrow, certainly not a bad thing in terms of PR.
I personally think, that they made a low amount of devices available at the launch hoping for a sell-out like it has only happened with Apple products. Main stash of devices will be available soon, there has to be some over-stock before the holidays, they won't loose all the possible sales at this time of the year where customers tend to spend the most money on electronic devices.
But as I said, all speculations, no offense. I could be wrong
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Speculation but the only reasonable logic. Given how slow and how many errors there were, Google is not ready to sell iPhone numbers. I do not believe that much stock was emptied. In either case, hopefully they provide some numbers for us. If they don't, well then I think we can just assume the PR stunt.
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Lets wait and watch, I would love to read about this launch and see what everyone is thinking about this. Can't call this a satisfying launch at all but a successful launch from Google's point of view I would say.
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Yeah it seems to be a ****ty marketing stunt, might of had a negative impact actually because they've pissed a lot of people off
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Sp does nokia claim for their latest lumia lol but they only put on sale some thousands and not some millions so depends on the stock quantity
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Yep, smells somewhat like a PR-stunt to me. No offense to Google, but such a big company (that makes its money througn market analytics and advertising), not prepared for this huge demand after the success of the N7 and the low-pricing-policy? Hard to think of...
This is all speculation, but they could be after the exact headline of this thread coming to major newspapers tomorrow, certainly not a bad thing in terms of PR.
I personally think, that they made a low amount of devices available at the launch hoping for a sell-out like it has only happened with Apple products. Main stash of devices will be available soon, there has to be some over-stock before the holidays, they won't loose all the possible sales at this time of the year where customers tend to spend the most money on electronic devices.
But as I said, all speculations, no offense. I could be wrong
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i guess they did it on reason, everytime apple releases iphone they make huge buzz around the world sold out sold out huge line outside of the store.. AS GOOGLE CANT HAVE HUGE LINE OUTSIDA STORE THEY TRICKED US WITH LESS STOCK AND MAKING SOLD OUT BUZZ. SHUT UP GOOGLE U MORON U LEFT LOADS OF UNHAPPY LOYAL SLEEPLESS CUSTOMERS WHO WERE EAGERLY WAITING ON THE DEVICE.
i doubt they had 500 devices for uk market
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Being in France I think I'd have to say why don't they cover the "rest of the world" first and leave America to last?.... :silly:
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lol, they effectively did, started in Australia and worked westward to the US.
I find it believable, since they are not pulling off the same sold out stunt with the Nexus 10. It is probably due to the price. All they have to get out there is superior to the GS3 and for $349 unlocked with no contract and whoever that needs a new phone would be crazy not to buy it.
That said, there are not enough geeks to sustain these numbers like the iphone 5 can sustain the numbers. However, 2 million or more geeks all ordering at 9am pst is definitely plausible. But once that 2 million gets theirs then we will see how much staying power the Nexus 4 generates.
This is without a doubt a marketing technique. Watch all the tech articles tomorrow "Google sells out Nexus 4 in .03 microseconds!"
And you'll get ignorant posters with comments like "OMGWTFBBQ Apple took 2 days to sell out! I love Google tehe LMAO OMFG"
even if Google only had 3 phones to sell, and Apple had 3 million
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Exactly, totally a marketing stunt. They want the headlines that the Nexus 4 sold out, that its a hot commodity. That will create more interest, higher demand, and magically in a few days a whole butt-load of units will show up in the play store. It'll be interesting to see if they actually release number of units sold today.
They sold out because they only had like 10 devices available in each region, except the US, where they had like 15 units available...
Yes, I'm bitter.
I'm actually more curious the volume of sales for the first day of release, and if Google will release those numbers.
I gt one for myself!! But ya google sucked!! I feel sorry for you all!! They must have stocked arnd one lakh/0.1 million units in each country!! Thats really bad!! Apple had really done a good job
Simple question: Should Google re-implement the pre-order system?
Hopefully some "people of power" within Google will look at the stats generated from this Poll, and adjust their game plan accordingly.
I personally think the pre-order system is the only way to conduct sales on a Lunch date of a high-demand new product for a several reasons, some of them being:
a) Allows both the Manufacturer and/or Google to accurately gauge the market demand prior to launch, and thus create/plan stock accordingly.
b) Allows accurate shipping times to be predicted based on the volume of orders, rather than playing a "guessing game".
c) Allows a specific amount of Launch Date devices to be in stock to at least meet the demand of some of the "on the day purchases", while still achieving the "sold out effect" marketing scheme, if they want.
d) Consumers are more comfortable being informed with expected wait times for orders; comfortable with the fact that the device is already on pre-order (now it's in the hands of Google to roll out the devices). AND consumers don't have to keep checking a website in order to find out if it's available again or not.
The bottom line is: The pre-order system is a more professional and organized approach to selling a high demand item, from only one online source.
Furthermore, I think that Google Play should start taking orders now for the re-stock of Nexus devices, so that even if it has to put on back-order, at least the consumer knows they're in-line/queue for the device, when it becomes available, no more frequent and unnecessary effort in consistently checking back.
I would prefer it would over refreshing lots
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google could care less about the stats from an xda post... we comprise of probably less than 0.01% of the buying market for the n4
I think they should!. Thing is.... Pre ordering gives us as the consumer the option to give interest and thus giving Google the information needed to generate a general clue as of demand. At the moment, the only demand they can calculate is site activities.
As its been mentioned all over this forum, both here in the UK & Internationally. Google, has really shown themselves to be very amateurish on how they have conducted there orders and allowing the customer to show interest in purchasing there products.
Poorly managed I hear you ask?!... Its been a complete embarrassment for such a big company!.
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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Well if you want the device, you want the device. You're going to pay either now or later, doesn't make a different.
Better to be informed and secure that your device is on order and not "up in the air".
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google could care less about the stats from an xda post... we comprise of probably less than 0.01% of the buying market for the n4
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dont know about that. they dont even advertise. most people i know dont even know google makes devices. for that matter android lmao. i bet most of the buyers were from xda such as myself
Except that it is not legal to sell something a product that you do not have in hand.
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Oh ya xda website during launch was almost crashing and not Google huh?..... didn't know xda had better servers.
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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For something like nexus 4 I would definitely put down my money even it was 6 months before shipping.
It should make a eu play store devices... thre are no custom between states in europe, why is only in 5 countries ._.
There was problems when they did preordering before however there was only really 2 problems they needed to fix rather than abandoning preorders completely.
First the problem with the nexus 7 was that as orders came in it didn't change the estimated delivery timescale. If the site updates the estimate even if it gets to be weeks at least you know what to be expect. How hard is it to say we have x thousand for release, y thousand a week later and update the estimate accordingly as ordered are placed.
Secondly the other problem was they ended up sending out newly placed orders immediately while seeming to forget about those that preordered. This is something that should have been fixed quite easily by simply fulfilling orders in the correct order.
I agree that if they did preordering properly it would be better than the current system.
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There was problems when they did preordering before however there was only really 2 problems they needed to fix rather than abandoning preorders completely.
First the problem with the nexus 7 was that as orders came in it didn't change the estimated delivery timescale. If the site updates the estimate even if it gets to be weeks at least you know what to be expect. How hard is it to say we have x thousand for release, y thousand a week later and update the estimate accordingly as ordered are placed.
Secondly the other problem was they ended up sending out newly placed orders immediately while seeming to forget about those that preordered. This is something that should have been fixed quite easily by simply fulfilling orders in the correct order.
I agree that if they did preordering properly it would be better than the current system.
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I love how your solution solving procedure is the solution itself... lol
How did you come up with 4? 4.
Over 90% so far agree that they should re-implement pre-ordering. Good stats so far
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Except that it is not legal to sell something a product that you do not have in hand.
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Haha says who?
Honestly, I would vote that Google leave the ordering/shipping business all together. They can still make great devices, but launch after launch, Google has proved that they just can't get a clue. If Amazon.com can give me free two day shipping on a 15 pound medicine ball and charge me $30, I think that Google should be able to successfully launch 5, yes 5 new products at the same time. And remember, this is not the first F'd up launch. Pre-orders for the N7 didn't go so well either.
Personally, I will stay with the Nexus line far into the future, however, no longer will I be purchasing from Google directly.
And PS, their ordering web site look like it is from 10 years ago, doesn't provide barely any useful information, and sometimes doesn't even get updated until after the even has happened (IE, someone receives and order even though their order says "Pending"). This is from the same company that created an app that can zoom all over the world and show us down to 100 feet what a street in, say, China, looks like.
Nah screw that. I like instant gratification, and want my stuff as soon as its announces.
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Haha says who?
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Someone who knows more than you apparently.
BakaPhoenix said:
It should make a eu play store devices... thre are no custom between states in europe, why is only in 5 countries ._.
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I think google likes EU custumores buy million of Apple devices. And Apple thanks.
Google = :angel:
Google royally screwed up the launch, everyone can agree with that. Google should implement a preorder system and like you said allowed people to secure their place in line.
Even Apple allows people to do that via carriers (Rogers in Canada allowed people to pre-order). Looks like there's a lot Google needs to learn before they get this right as their Nexus 7 launch wasn't that good in the first place.
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Google royally screwed up the launch, everyone can agree with that. Google should implement a preorder system and like you said allowed people to secure their place in line.
Even Apple allows people to do that via carriers (Rogers in Canada allowed people to pre-order). Looks like there's a lot Google needs to learn before they get this right as their Nexus 7 launch wasn't that good in the first place.
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Agreed.
Smartphones are super expensive and my teen has been begging me to get him one. I know that the only thing he might actually do with it just access facebook and twitter and just play some stupid games.
Don't buy your teen a smartphone.
Here's an article that gives you a list of reasons to say NO to your teen:
http://appdigy.com/370/your-teen-does-not-need-an-iphone/
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Smartphones are super expensive and my teen has been begging me to get him one. I know that the only thing he might actually do with it just access facebook and twitter and just play some stupid games.
Don't buy your teen an iPhone or some other smartphone.
Here's an article that gives you a list of reasons to say NO to your teen:
http://appdigy.com/370/your-teen-does-not-need-an-iphone/
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Don't be so quick to think that way. First of all, the article's only argument is that the price is high, and it is cheaper to use Facebook and twitter from home. In addition, it even states an argument against itself (I like it because the author is not biased) which says the teen years are a memorable time and the convenient camera captures those memories.
So basically, buy a Galaxy Nexus off contract (~$270), activate it on a cheap prepaid plan, and blam! You don't even need to get data, just have him connect to WiFi.
In fact, you can even just get an unlocked Nexus S (~$130) or Galaxy S (~$100) and they should fit his needs enough.
The article pertains to on contract high end phones (specifically an iPhone 5), but you can greatly reduce the price by buying a previous flagship and use a prepaid plan.
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Don't be so quick to think that way. First of all, the article's only argument is that the price is high, and it is cheaper to use Facebook and twitter from home. In addition, it even states an argument against itself (I like it because the author is not biased) which says the teen years are a memorable time and the convenient camera captures those memories.
So basically, buy a Galaxy Nexus off contract (~$270), activate it on a cheap prepaid plan, and blam! You don't even need to get data, just have him connect to WiFi.
In fact, you can even just get an unlocked Nexus S (~$130) or Galaxy S (~$100) and they should fit his needs enough.
The article pertains to on contract high end phones (specifically an iPhone 5), but you can greatly reduce the price by buying a previous flagship and use a prepaid plan.
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True but teens fall into peer pressure and the iPhone is the greatest status symbol.
It might just be cheaper to get the iPhone 5 unlocked...but $650 to fish out is a lot of money..considering you could buy a full fledged laptop in that same amount...or an HD LED TV from Sony.
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True but teens fall into peer pressure and the iPhone is the greatest status symbol.
It might just be cheaper to get the iPhone 5 unlocked...but $650 to fish out is a lot of money..considering you could buy a full fledged laptop in that same amount...or an HD LED TV from Sony.
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Yep, so don't get him an iPhone 5. Or any iPhail for that matter.
Like I said, there's still the Galaxy Nexus which is pretty good as it is, and for your sons needs even a Galaxy S or Nexus S would be enough. Dirt cheap now that they are 2 years old, but solid performers. Plenty development, so (if it even matters to him) he will have the latest version of Android running on it.
I agree, peer pressure is definitely a factor, but getting an Android stands out among all the iPhones I see in teens' hands these days
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I wouldn't buy my child a smartphone until they're 15 or older, so many kids text during class now, no wonder kids are less educated than when I went to school.
Well, brace yourselves, here comes a 16 year olds opinion. What my dad did was get me a plan, but I had to buy the phone. It was great because it taught me some responsibility and gave me some leeway. Please don't lock your kid down from having a social life, also don't let him buy an iPhone. And yes, this nexus 4 was paid for in while by me. As where my previous 3 phones.
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I wouldn't buy my child a smartphone until they're 15 or older, so many kids text during class now, no wonder kids are less educated than when I went to school.
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Well, the thing is even dumb phones can text, so in order to prevent that you need to not let your child have a phone at all.
Or just good parenting
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Let me tell you one thing. When I was in hs we all had blackberries and iphones 3g. Yes there were those kid who were into drama and stuff and non stop texting and they don't learn anything but there good uses for 15 year old to have a cell.
Although I don't condone cheating Google the answer to capital of new York is better than guessing a wrong answer because you'll know and remember rather than go on not knowing.
The other is for communication. Especially after what happened in Connecticut you child needs to call out or if they go out and get peer pressured to do something bad, they can call a friend to come or call you to pick them up before they are guilty by association.
Last reason is that bullying. We want the best phones and kid like to make fun of others who are less fortunate then they are. When you get older you view being bullying differently but could be devastating for a teen who hasn't experienced the adult world.
Smartphone for teen. Lab top or PC. Yes
Tablet and brand new car. Get a job!
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Yep, so don't get him an iPhone 5. Or any iPhail for that matter.
Like I said, there's still the Galaxy Nexus which is pretty good as it is, and for your sons needs even a Galaxy S or Nexus S would be enough. Dirt cheap now that they are 2 years old, but solid performers. Plenty development, so (if it even matters to him) he will have the latest version of Android running on it.
I agree, peer pressure is definitely a factor, but getting an Android stands out among all the iPhones I see in teens' hands these days
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The Nexus S is not going to get the Key Lime Pie update...
Without updates, its going to go out of style very fast. Galaxy Nexus is still a solid buy
Buddy you'll be shocked that lots of decent developers here on xda-developers are teen. I myself started symbian development at the age of 17. So I think it's best not to generalize teens.
I had to pay for my first smartphone and Plan. The only thing I had was a "dumb phone" and it was for 911 only. So any teen who thinks getting a smartphone is in the bill of rights, need's to get a job. ( If want to give them one as a gift, because they did well or what ever ok.) But Don't make them think for one sec it's a right to have a free smartphone+plan.
That's all I have to say.
If they work for it that is great, but if a teenager wants something enough they can make money to get it
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The Nexus S is not going to get the Key Lime Pie update...
Without updates, its going to go out of style very fast. Galaxy Nexus is still a solid buy
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Learn the magic of ROMs, boy. The Nexus S didn't even get the 4.2 update, but voila! A few days after the N4 was released, 4.2 ROM!
Also, if your kid isn't really like the teens on xda, he probably won't know or care about software updates.
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As a 15 year old teen, I'd say that, by a side, it does indeed can get in the way of school. Sometimes I get distracted with it instead of studing (at home). But, on another side, I see it as my tool to do a lot of things during my day. I listen to music with it, I often access my school website for grading check (hard to explain my school grade method) during classes with data (no WiFi access to students), I write all my tests, control my classes with it, takes notes, be related to school or not, it's also my communtication tool. And many other things not mentioned...
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I had to pay for my first smartphone and Plan. The only thing I had was a "dumb phone" and it was for 911 only. So any teen who thinks getting a smartphone is in the bill of rights, need's to get a job. ( If want to give them one as a gift, because they did well or what ever ok.) But Don't make them think for one sec it's a right to have a free smartphone+plan.
That's all I have to say.
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I agree with you completely mate. It teaches teens about financial responsibility. It also shows them that they are not entitled to a smartphone but rather something that is earned.
Good luck mate
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I agree with you completely mate. It teaches teens about financial responsibility. It also shows them that they are not entitled to a smartphone but rather something that is earned.
Good luck mate
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Tell your son that. Let him choose the plan and the phone as long as he pays for it. You will have to make sure he doesn't get some crap China phone that'll break in a day, but otherwise it's all up to him to find the best deals etc.
Good luck to you, lol aren't you the OP who are you saying good luck to
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I had to pay for my first smartphone and Plan. The only thing I had was a "dumb phone" and it was for 911 only. So any teen who thinks getting a smartphone is in the bill of rights, need's to get a job. ( If want to give them one as a gift, because they did well or what ever ok.) But Don't make them think for one sec it's a right to have a free smartphone+plan.
That's all I have to say.
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Exactly. A phone basically should have thing in mine, to get in contact with some1 when they are doing a lot of work. Something was when I first got a job, my parents got me a phone so I could makes calls when I wasn't in school.
Since upgrading to a smartphone, its more than just a phone, you can access the internet with it and it can be a huge distraction, but its so much better then most phones out there.
To give your son a smartphone is a big resposibility, but something I learned is you gotta work to earn it, cant just give it for no work. f he has good grades and shows responsibility with it, then he deserves it. If he starts to show hes slacking behind, then its trouble
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As a 15 year old teen, I'd say that, by a side, it does indeed can get in the way of school. Sometimes I get distracted with it instead of studing (at home). But, on another side, I see it as my tool to do a lot of things during my day. I listen to music with it, I often access my school website for grading check (hard to explain my school grade method) during classes with data (no WiFi access to students), I write all my tests, control my classes with it, takes notes, be related to school or not, it's also my communtication tool. And many other things not mentioned...
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Dam.
You must not take a lot of notes cause I am sure you could write much faster than typing on that tiny keyboard.
I bought my teenage daughter a cheap laptop. Put k9 browser on it, an old refurbed iPod 2nd Gen and locked the iTunes store and safari, and then put k9 on it too. She has a dumb phone to call in emergencies and text her friends with. The locks at 8pm and if I see that her grades are slipping the phone and iPod become mine again. If I see she is spending all her time in front of a TV or computer theybget turned off and she goes outside.
That being said she is in Beta club. Gets A's and B's and has as much of a social life as she needs. She also won her class's physical fitness award. The place I spoil her is I let her do some name brand shopping for clothes. As long as I approve.
All in all we have our disagreements but she "gets by" lol.
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has as much of a social life as she needs.
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You actually manage her social life? That's not something I would really look over, unless I know she's with gangsters or drug dealers or whatever. Getting a tad personal there.
(Likewise, I don't look at my son's texts unless I suspect something)
Not judging your parenting, just giving my perspective
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Now that the Nexus 5 hype has partly died down and you've all secured one, who else is disappointed Google didn't hold a press event event for the launch? Hell, I'm surprised Google didn't even have an event for KitKat. It seems like such a missed opportunity. A pre-announced event has many benefits.
1. It confirms an incoming device and helps people plan for the purchase instead of buying it within a moments notice.
2. For the geeks amongst us, this event is more than just an announcement, it's an exciting show that we can all get behind and discuss, before, during and after it has happened. The hype would be momentous.
3. Whether we like it or not, Apple has demonstrated that flashy events reach out to a wide audience. Google cannot expect to target the Nexus to average consumers if it's launch consists of a measly post on Google blog.
4. It's just informative. Especially with the release of KitKat, an event will clearly outline the major changes in Android in an appealing visual fashion. Sure, we can find out about KitKat through other channels, but it would be a lot more exciting to hear from Google themselves.
There are probably more reasons for why Google should have held an event for the Nexus 5 and KitKat, but these are the most prominent ones that come to mind. I have to say though, I am not only disappointed but surprised by the lack of a launch. Last year, Google planned an event for for the Nexus 4 (although it was cancelled due to the hurricane) and more recently, Google held live streams for Google+ and Hangout changes. So my question, why announce two items (Nexus 5 and KitKat) which are arguably more important, through a boring blog post?
The strongest defence for Google not holding the event is that, "they will sell enough Nexus 5's without one". This is quite a poor argument though. The iPhone, likewise, would be sold out without an event but that doesn't stop Apple from showcasing it's product. Its not just a sales pitch, its a moment for the company to show its pride towards its products.
I'm personally glad they didn't have an event. It insured that people who really wanted the phone had a first shot as it. We were following it daily and knew when to look for the phone to go live. I bought mine 6 min into launch. Last year many many people bought the n4 on launch cause of the hype from the event that wouldn't have on day one. Though I'm very very surprised that it went down the way it did. I was really expecting an event or announcement of some kind. I wish they would have had an event that night or Friday night.
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I feel like the lack of an event helped limit the number of scavengers who purchase as many phones as they can just to resell them at a higher cost.
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I feel like the lack of an event helped limit the number of scavengers who purchase as many phones as they can just to resell them at a higher cost.
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Didn't help much. I almost put mine up for sale before I even get it due to them selling for way above retail.
Press events are for media ****tards. Glad Google don't play these dumb media circuses.
I was kinda disappointed there wasn't a conference/event. I really enjoyed the galaxy nexus ICS event not long ago.
Why is the right door always locked?
I think Google did just fine not having any sort of release party. Think about this for a minute. Apple's marketing budget is gonna be over 1 billion this year. Samsungs will top 4.5 billion. Googles budget comes in at just about 500 million and a lot of that was spent on the Moto X campaign. Google spent very little money on marketing the N5. They left it up to rumor and speculation to do that for them. The big question for me is how many devices did they sell in the opening week? It won't top the iPhone numbers but even if it comes in at half of that it's huge. I'm getting tired of the whole google cut corners to build the N5 arguement. In my eyes the only corner they cut on this phone was their marketing budget. Then they where nice enough to keep their profit margin low on top of that. That's why so many of us can afford this phone. So props to Google for doing right and doing it well.
Well, I see your points but at the same time..
You could look at is as Google simply saying.. hey look, we can release a device and an update without much advertising and work.. without making a big deal out of it.
People love trying to guess, building up hype on their own. Google let the devs and Android fans take care of the advertising and "press." Did you see how many blogs posted release dates and rumors and specs?
DowntownJeffBrown said:
Last year many many people bought the n4 on launch cause of the hype from the event that wouldn't have on day one.
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There wasn't a Nexus 4 event, because it was cancelled due to Hurricane Sandy.
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There wasn't a Nexus 4 event, because it was cancelled due to Hurricane Sandy.
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I know that but it was announced almost 2 weeks ahead of the release. It was all over the internet how cheap it was and the great specs. There was nothing this time around not even a video like Katy year
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who else is disappointed Google didn't hold a press event event for the launch?
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seriously?!
Google is sad about Galaxy Nexus & Nexus S (now that the OS manages well 512MB devices again).
(Just Kidding of course).
BTW, they don't need press events for a device with that awesome price. And a system with (afaik currently) 80+% market share on purchases, considering that most of the sells are from non-nexus (no-kitkat) devices.
There wasn't a need for an event. There's no groundbreaking new feature or gimmick offered by KitKat or the Nexus 5 that is going to sway new buyers, let alone demonstrate.
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I think Google did just fine not having any sort of release party. Think about this for a minute. Apple's marketing budget is gonna be over 1 billion this year. Samsungs will top 4.5 billion. Googles budget comes in at just about 500 million and a lot of that was spent on the Moto X campaign. Google spent very little money on marketing the N5. They left it up to rumor and speculation to do that for them. The big question for me is how many devices did they sell in the opening week? It won't top the iPhone numbers but even if it comes in at half of that it's huge. I'm getting tired of the whole google cut corners to build the N5 arguement. In my eyes the only corner they cut on this phone was their marketing budget. Then they where nice enough to keep their profit margin low on top of that. That's why so many of us can afford this phone. So props to Google for doing right and doing it well.
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A millionaire dollar marketing campaign is not exactly what I had in mind. Just a simple announcement held in one day. Hell, they could have even done so via a live stream like they did with the Google+ and Hangouts update.
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Well, I see your points but at the same time..
You could look at is as Google simply saying.. hey look, we can release a device and an update without much advertising and work.. without making a big deal out of it.
People love trying to guess, building up hype on their own. Google let the devs and Android fans take care of the advertising and "press." Did you see how many blogs posted release dates and rumors and specs?
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As much as I enjoyed the fan made advertising through rumours, speculation and leak, I would still have much preferred an announcement from Google themselves. In fact, why not have both? If Google really felt the fans should do advertising for them, I think that's quite lazy on their part.
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seriously?!
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Yes, I'm serious. I feel you are interpreting it in some major sense though.
esskayy said:
As much as I enjoyed the fan made advertising through rumours, speculation and leak, I would still have much preferred an announcement from Google themselves. In fact, why not have both? If Google really felt the fans should do advertising for them, I think that's quite lazy on their part.
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Yeah, I suppose it can be seen like that as well.
Either way, I'm just happy Google keeps releasing good devices.
I love the Nexus line, I've had every nexus phone other than the Nexus One.
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Yeah, I suppose it can be seen like that as well.
Either way, I'm just happy Google keeps releasing good devices.
I love the Nexus line, I've had every nexus phone other than the Nexus One.
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Exactly, Google consistently releases excellent products (hardware and software). It's just a shame that they don't always showcase their pride for it for the world to see. As I imagined, most people here are saying "they don't need one" but they can't be further away from the truth, as I said, it's not just a sales pitch its about advertising the product and what makes it special.
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I feel like the lack of an event helped limit the number of scavengers who purchase as many phones as they can just to resell them at a higher cost.
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I think it might of helped a little. Still, the best way to combat these kinds of people is to have the inventory to support demand. It looks like Google did a pretty good job this time it looks like - maximum wait time is only 3-4 weeks. I'm sure there will be another bump in demand in about a month as Christmas shopping spins up, but I'm guessing that anyone who wants one will get it by the end of the year.
Me. And I leave for work at 1pm every day. I had faith and waited it out. I like to know what's going on.
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I am dissapointed, google hosted an event to launch the Nexus 7 this year alongside android 4.3 which didnt change anything visually, only under-the-hood improvements, this proves that they dont want the Nexus phones to go mainstream, its just a phone to keep us geeks happy in our bubble, but its not a phone to market, it really pisses me off because I feel stock android is the best android experience you can get, and people out in the street dont know about it, most people dont even know Google owns Android, theres a whole universe of people out there missing the best experience an android phone can have, I feel like google didnt do the event and wont market the phone because it would piss off OEMS who are making phones with similar specifications but almost doubling the price...
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I am dissapointed, google hosted an event to launch the Nexus 7 this year alongside android 4.3 which didnt change anything visually, only under-the-hood improvements, this proves that they dont want the Nexus phones to go mainstream, its just a phone to keep us geeks happy in our bubble, but its not a phone to market, it really pisses me off because I feel stock android is the best android experience you can get, and people out in the street dont know about it, most people dont even know Google owns Android, theres a whole universe of people out there missing the best experience an android phone can have, I feel like google didnt do the event and wont market the phone because it would piss off OEMS who are making phones with similar specifications but almost doubling the price...
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This. I cannot agree with you more. I think it's selfish for people to want Google to keep the Nexus line exclusive for geeks. The AOSP experience is unrivalled. A lot of people don't know what they are missing out on. Nexus 5 > iPhone on so many levels, and yet the average Joe would not even know what the Nexus is. Tragic.