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As I said in another thread, I am probably going to sell my Desire and get an N1.
But I am wary of buying a 6 month old phone - especially with the rate android is moving forward at.
My question is - will the N1 be surpasses anytime soon with another google phone?
I know there are other phones out their with better specs (eg EVO) but I am talking about a real google phone, like the N1, which gets updates straight from google without anyone in between getting in the way.
It's probably a stupid question asking seeing as no one knows what companies are planning, but I guess I'm just looking for someone to convince me to take the plunge!
my guess is that the nexus one wil lbe the flagship phone, google's phone, for a full year. so look until january before a replacement comes along. even though the incredible and evo are here, the nexus one remains the developer phone. and i dont think that is going to change until january. just my opinion.
there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed. I love my Nexus One, but one of the MAIN reasons I got the N1 was because I was gambling that Google would treat it like its own personal baby. Favoriting it, giving updates sooner then the rest of the phones, and hopefulness that because it was their baby they would suite Android to work around the Nexus One, ie. If 2.2 did not work on the Nexus One, they would have MADE it until it worked on the Nexus One.
Blueman101 said:
there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
Yes, in a year or maybe even 1/2 year you'll no longer be on par with the top dogs, and in 3 years your phone might probably be scrapped. So? That's how things work.. They develop.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Well as all I am looking for is a phone direct from google, then it is quite reasonable to expect it not to be surpassed each month.
I don't really care if a better android phone comes out, I will only have buyers remorse if a Nexus Two came out soon, but I suppose when that happens is anyones guess.
The guesses that are currently out say that there's no other Google phone planned for this year (at least), so if you want to buy Nexus because you want Google's Android Development Phone platform - you can count of trouble-free 1/2-year.
(but at the end of the year 1.3GHz phones might appear, and the next year can bring dual cores... So if you want to stay in the top pack, I guess 1 year is the phone's lifespan).
Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
The way I see it is you need to look at 2 things in regards to these types of phones... the hardware... and the availability of updates to the software...
Hardware wise, The Nexus is completely sufficient. 1ghz processor, 512mb of RAM, a great camera, a nice AMOLED screen, and a very durable build quality...
Software wise, it's vanilla Android and is first in line for updates from google... All the competing phones have that (sense, blur) crap built-in that severely hinders the release process of updates ... they will ALWAYS get updates later than any phones with vanilla Android...
If you get an EVO or an Incredible or whatever else comes out in a few months... you will gain a few minor things as far as hardware spec differences, unless u want an over sized bulging screen in your pocket. The camera? Who cares it's a friggin' phone... 5mp is PLENTY. You already have to optimize even 5mp as a standard to even send as MMS. Anything over 1ghz is pretty much overkill for android in its current phase... it's a phone... it runs fast as hell it doesn't need a dual-core processor geeze.
I dunno... I really think the nexus is still the best bet people who want a touch-based phone and always want to be on the bleeding edge of android os developments.
Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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i've used Sense so much and i totally hate it as well. i'm so much happier with my nexus vanilla android experience. i do get why some people like sense, but for me personally, i dont like it.
In my opinion, the closest phone to 'overtake' the N1 will be the Samsung Galaxy S. The triangles that thing can push out is supposed to be very impressive. Other phones, to me, come down to preference (Evo for screen size and network, Desire for Sense). The N1 will probably be the first phone to get Gingerbread and even the update after that at least.
We'll see 1ghz phones become more common before a bump in processor speed happens, I feel. The N1's a nice phone and worth the money.
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Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
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you are not alone. the EVO just doesnt wow me either. when 1.5gHz phones come out, then maybe i'll ditch the nexus. but the current hardware (evo and incredible) are so similar to the nexus, they are all cousins and in the same league. nexus gets the newest updates and has best build quality, so some would say its actually the better of the 3.
If you haven't bought one by now, I would hold off. Expect HTC leaks to start up again for their new lineup for next year.
It also depends on how you plan to use the phone.
I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I agree, some people are too obsessed with benchmarks imo. The phone does everything you want pretty much instantly, and there's not many processor intensive apps for android anyway.
evo is great except:
1) sprint only
2) contract only
What would make it better than the nexus:
1) simple way to root.
2) runs standard Cyanogen or AOSP, no proprietary stuff like sense.
3) supports GSM
I waited three years before jumping in, loved android right from when it was announced. The Nexus one pretty much has no challengers for the throne yet. A true open phone.
Take it with a grain of salt, but when I went to a local TMo store to get a SIM for my wife's new N1, I was asking about when they think they might be getting the N1 in (seeing as there's already some 3rd party places selling the N1).
I was told they probably won't be getting a google phone in until the Nexus TWO, sometime in November of THIS year.
My take on it is this; If it's something you want, get it now and enjoy it. There is ALWAYS something better, faster, sleeker and that will cost less coming right around the corner.
If the N1 had a touch screen that wasn't so terrible I'd really want for nothing. Maybe some better battery life..
If you're talking about a straight Google phone unlocked, then yes, one will be out this year. Earlier in the year, someone high up in Motorola announced they were working with Google to create a straight-to-consumer phone. I assume this will be the Nexus Two. I'll look for links to it and reply with them.
A quick Google search for "Motorola straight to consumer phone" and you come up with exactly what I was talking about. First link here:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/motorola_developing_straighttoconsumer_google_phone
I've been toying with the idea of buying a Nexus One for some time now, I'm no stranger to Android, having owned a Droid 2, Droid Incredible, and now a Samsung Captivate that I use with work. I currently also have an iPhone 4 as my personal phone, and I was just given an HTC Surround and Samsung Focus to replace the Captivate with, so I have to decide which I like more. I love Android, I've always been more drawn to it than my iOS devices, although I do love my iPhone. Now that the Nexus One has been out for a year and has its "successor" (depending on who you ask), is it a good buy still? I'm tired of waiting for AT&T to come out with something new that's a real killer phone, I've been hearing whispers of the HTC Desire HD being in testing, and the Moto Olympus being announced at CES. I'd get a Nexus S if I had T-Mobile and it had a microSD slot, but other than a larger screen and NFC capability, I don't see any real upgrade the S brings. What does everyone think, if I get this Nexus One is it a great buy and I'll enjoy it for awhile, or should I save my money and just wait longer?
PS, I know I own too many phones I can't help it! 3 phone lines will do that to ya
I barely got my nexus one so I would give you my own personal feedback.
Cons:
1.battery is some what horrible under medium to heavy use you can always tweak the phone to make last longer but sometimes is a pain in the butt.
2. 512mb of storage is a step back having to always watch what you installed, once again you can tweak it and make it less of an issue.
3. touch screen feedback is not the best like other phones that are out there. also having some multitouch issues on all models but I hardly notice the issue.
4. My personal issue not having a call and end keys is a pain but that just me been picky.
5. another personal opinion camera its not the greatest in my opinion.
Pros:
1. I got the phone for 295 under no contract that's a awesome deal I think.
2. will get gingerbread soon.
3. Having stock android makes things so much better I could of bought many android phones but the lack of updates made think twice of spending 300 plus.
4 this is a big one for me having to tether and having hotspot internet without rooting makes me so happy.
5. Adobe flash I love having flash for the same reason I didn't buy the nokia n8.
I know for a fact next year will be a big year for android if you wanna wait.
I have my nexus a year now, bought it when it just came out. I can agree with josemedina1983. Nexus is mine longest phone because it never got bored, there is always something new to find out, and google bringing the always the new android version makes the N1 up to date. All the new HTC phones are almost like the Nexus, some have more space to install apps on but that's it.
The only thing that bothers me a bit is the touch screen, it works great with apps but soon as you want to play games that require multi touch it's a nightmare.
I like mine N1 it has a great design works great love the trackball (miss it on new models) the dock station is great. i think i wil keep using mine N1 till something really great comes (didn't find a phone to replace it). I don't like the looks of the Nexus s it really feels cheap.
I think N1 is still a good it has it's flaws specially if you want to play games on it.
I've had my N1 for a few months, here's my take:
OS: Froyo with eventual Gingerbread
- Huge community support on the current OS with 'in-view' plans for OTA update to latest OS.
- Lots and lots of ROMs for this puppy, you can hack this baby four ways from Friday.
- Rumors that Gingerbread on latest Nexus S still a little green - will hopefully be ripe when it gets to N1
Phone cons:
- POS multitouch support (doesn't mean it's not responsive to single thumb touch).
- only 512MB of internal memory (but you can root and get Apps2SD to make up for that) [on a side note, isn't 16GB of internal memory on the Nexus S enough!?!]
- Bad design on the power button, will most likely fail after a few months if the design hasn't been fixed (see link in my signature)
- No Gyroscope - but it's not like you don't have other phones to play games on
- No NFC - but how soon are people going to start using that anways?
Phone Pros:
- Been around for a while, huge support community (XDA FTW!).
- Lots of hacks and tweaks for the phone as well.
- Anything wrong with the phone has already been discovered.
- Lots of developers have it, but you don't see it out in the wild that much (unique 'special' factor).
- Still a high end processor for the next few months until the Tegra 2s come out.
- Probably get it cheaper now that the Nexus S is out.
If you can get it cheap without a contract then sure its still a good phone.
But I would not pay full price for it or go on a contract in order to get it at this point.
Its not a bad phone at all but the phone market moves soooo fast its blinding.
I'll be keeping mine another year and then getting whatever is newest once my contract is up.
All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
Just get the S
If you own another android phone and still using it i dont see the point of buying another one especially having the incredible its a damn good phone I think the incredible,evo,nexus,hd2,droid x,g2 are the classic android phones of 2010. I would wait alittle bit and stack up those 300 for the next phone. I feel next year windows 7 nokias meego and android tablets i love having alot of OS options.
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I have had my Nexus One 6 months and think it is a great phone. IMO one of the best looking phones made. I also have a Desire as my main phone and have used the Nexus to learn about rooting and custom roms. Its copped a hammering from experimenting but it has always come back to life. Google is defiantly your friend here LOL. If you have the spare $ and not to concerned with whats around the corner with the next gen Android its a good buy. But maybe that its 12 months since release a more current phone may be better. Try Nexus S. When it arrives in Australia I surely will get one. Good luck with your decision.
Steve.
It's a good phone, but I wouldn't buy it now after a year it came out, unless you get it really cheap. With CES happening right now, you should definitely wait and see.
If I need to recommend a phone I would still recommend the N1 provided its cheaper than the NS
Definitely a phone worth getting, more ROMS then you'll ever know what to do with. I've been back and forth between MIUI, cyanogen and enomthers ROMS and have never been.disappointed. battery life is amazing with these ROMS. My nexus at 1.113 Ghz outperformed my friends droid X at 1.465 Ghz and his rooted Evo
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I've also had gingerbread for about two weeks already and loving it
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All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
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see the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU0R9tdodw8
Its not the best but the biggest problem I have is axis flipping and the snapping to match the axis of the other finger (Don't know what that's called officially). It's not the best video and neither of these problems really bother me in day to day use. I vote it's a great phone to own and will be for a few years yet. As for the power button i've had mine since last march and still no issues.
I still think you should wait the nexus one AT&T version are pretty rare and they still go for around 50 + bucks, more than the t-mo version.
Comes this february then I officially own a phone that lasts for a year. Lol I used to change phones a lot. I just tried to find the perfect one for me. pam there it is
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Amazon.com deal on N1 too good to be true?
Been a long time follower of this forum but only just registered.
Looking to buy a Nexus one. It's going at $298 on Amazon from one of their eSellers. It is listed as new but most of the feedback on this seller refers to refurbished products - and sometimes when the buyer was expecting a new one. So I am really sceptical though it is very tempting to be able to get the phone for <$300.
Anyone here Ble to advise? Any better ideas on where I could look?
There are a lot of killer phones out there but....I like having one of the only phones that has Gingerbread without rooting (2.3.4). Exclusivity; I haven't seen one in the wild. Hotspot and tehering without rooting. Vanilla Android. While the touchscreen is buggy at times, I love my N1. I have had it for a year and never regretted my purchase. This is one of the phones that will be remembered for quite sometime IMO. A classic, as it were.
Lots of posts complaining about the latest Samsung devices, Galaxy SkyRocket & Galaxy Nexus.
I started out the month of November with both the HTC Vivid & the Galaxy SkyRocket. I kept the HTC Vivid for myself after a week of using both and this morning I received a shiny new Nexus.
ICS 4.0 seems buggy at best, and while there are some nice additions, they took too much away from the device. Search functions are crippled, no flash and inconsistent menu items make navigation a bit hard at times. Facebook is broken (menu again) and it will not function as a USB storage device, media profile only.
Once again, Samsung has disappointed and I feel great about keeping the HTC Vivid.
I don't think that's a fair comparison. ICS has not been created for either device.
While I do.agree I prefer the hardware of the vivid comparing Gingerbread with.Sence 3.0 overlay to a beta ICS without proper driver support doesn't really work
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I don't think that's a fair comparison. ICS has not been created for either device.
While I do.agree I prefer the hardware of the vivid comparing Gingerbread with.Sence 3.0 overlay to a beta ICS without proper driver support doesn't really work
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He said he got a nexus. ICS has most certainly been created for the nexus... Specifically for the nexus.
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Sounded as if he was comparing on all.three devices. Maybe not. Oh well.
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Samsung is so half-ass.
Samsung went and sat in a room and said what can we do to lure iPhone users. What do they love about their phone?
They went and 1upped them in all those aspects. Problem is, I don't want an iPhone or a super iPhone. I like the Vivid and I've been a fan of HTC since forever. Wasn't a moto fan, but the Atrix was impressive. People hated on it, but to be honest it was great (unlock bootloader or not).
I dont want an over saturated screen, feather weight, colorful device (TW4 and their icons).
edit: Am I still dreaming to think companies like HTC and Moto can start releasing vanilla (+unlocked) versions of their devices? I don't need it to be subsidized!
This all really a matter of opinion--they're just phones. But I've done my fair share of fiddling with Samsung devices in the past. I've never really liked my dad's Captivate and had a friend with an SII. I was moving from an iPhone 4 to an Android device when I was looking at my upgrade options. HTC was extremely attractive to me, so when the Vivid came out I went to a local AT&T store and looked at the Vivid and Skyrocket (literally) side-by-side. The Vivid won out for me and I have no regrets. If someone else likes the Skyrocket more, then cool. So far though, I haven't been extremely impressed with Samsung's line-up of smartphones...
When it comes down to it, its user preffence, I've owned afew HTC's and can see the pros & cons..
Same as owning countless Samsung devices..I can see the pro & cons
Build quality on HTC phones are great but way to heavy, not my cup of tea..
HTC screens are not the best, not saying samsungs are but I actually like the colors on my S2, watching movies or really anything looks amazing..
I do agree on samsungs part of half assing structural phone quality ..but the screen and balance outweighs it all.
About the Galaxy Nexus, it seems to me abit rushed but the reality about Galaxy Nexus is alot of people forgetting that most apps are not yet compatible for android 4.0 or haven't been updated, so that's where you get alot of complaints ..also saw something about volume going low by its self, probly a software issue that will be addressed soon..
On a positive of Nexus is there support for there devices, no one can deny that.
I enjoy most devices and tinkering with them and basicly flash the same rom on all my devices, so I don't really mess around with touchwiz or sense..let alone blur
Im a big AOSP lover so either I'm on Cyanogen or anything based of AOSP..
So since I mod my phones I look into..
Development support..
& Specs..
If I wasn't gonna modify my device I'd get an iPhone..(which i also own)
My beater phone right now is a HTC Glacier, not the newest phone but it works..
Just saying..didn't post here to cause any drama but the main point is user preffence.
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I have a chance to buy a new Nexus One. I already have a Motorola Atrix 4G. I had wanted a Nexus One when it first appeared about two years ago. Is it worth buying it now for $180? What do you think guys?
I've had mine since it first came out and through the barrage of phones that have emerged since my purchase, it's been hard to give up. Not a bad deal for an N1 in my opinion.
I'll think about jumping when the quad core phones come out though.
After two years my Nexus One works flawlessly and is one of the best phone I've ever operated and it still have support here. So if you want to give it a try, well then go ahead pal....
Excellent and versatile phone
Biggest flaw--touchscreen and maybe signal strength. Although that may depend on area and/or may be inherent in smartphones.
Reason it is not outdated is that I am now running a VERY stable Ice Cream Sandwich rom. ICS is not on very many phones yet and this granddad of a phone is capable of running it. Must be rooted though to get full benefits of ICS IMHO.
Ken
No, for $180 I'd get (after careful selection) MyTouch 4G. Actually I did, but more than 1/2 year ago, and for $250. Nexus doesn't come close in any parameter besides glowing multi-color trackball. And I'm not talking benchmarks, but usability, ROM selection and quality. MT4G has fully functional CM7 and MIUI, just like Nexus, but unlike Nexus it's highly overclockable, has a barrage of latest and fully functional Sense 3.0 and 3.5 ROMs, will most probably receive Sense 4.0 ROM when it gets out, and has ICS in at least as good a state as N1. All that while being approximately the same size, 4 times more powerful GPU and a bit more powerful CPU, front cam, stronger speaker, no power button issues and no screen issues (well, it has other type of issues, ones that make you need to select the specimen carefully).
My honest opinion. I had Nexus One for over a year, and I knew when I drew the line and said that I'd like something else, and by my wife's experience too. She's now perfectly happy with Desire S, MT4G's almost-twin brother.
My 2 cents
If you can find one for $150 or less, yes, it's still an amazing phone! This phone hasn't had any issues for me since I bought it and I bought it when it first came out. I've yet to find a phone that runs so smoothly, can handle so many upgrades and has an amazing camera. There's no reason to get rid of this phone yet. The gorilla glass is amazing! I literally have screen cracks throughout my glass and the touch screen still works great and the glass doesn't fall apart.
Still Upgradable
Amazing Camera/Camcorder (720p w/kernel)
Doesn't Lag
Touchscreen is so so when playing some games
All in all it's a phone that's still hard to beat.
You put Kang-o-Rama on it with the kgpneok kernel and you won't need to upgrade your phone for a while.
The only worthy update to this phone right now is the Galaxy Nexus but even then, you're sacrificing an awesome camera for a crappy samsung one. (the galaxy nexus and galaxy s have horrid camera's compared to the N1)
If you want a more powerful phone I would say to go with the HTC Amaze. Same specs as the Galaxy S2 but a MUCH better camera (one of the best) although only a 4.3 inch screen compared to the bigger s2 screen but 4.3 should be the limit on cell phone screens anyways.
Also if you plan on modding it, HTC phones are better to Mod than samsung phones.
Had mine for two years and still not swapping for another one.
Running ICS and if CM9 is nearly as good as CM7 i see no point in changing phones.
Besides that it can stand some beating, the N1. I dont know how many times I've dropped mine without inflicting it any damage.
yeah...it's worth buying with all the support you can get here but cranky touchscreen is a pain!
I've had a G1 and N1 best phones in my opinion but you should get a Gnex $180 is too much
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I bought the N1 on release day, a great phone. But T-Mobile coverage left a lot to be desired, traveling I was on 2g more often than not.
When I replaced it with a Rezound at Amazon's $.01 black Friday sale, I thought that I would put it up for sale. But I couldn't bring myself to do it, so I've re-purposed it as a media center remote with VOIP.
$180 seems a little steep.
I had mine since it came out, It's great phone except my power bottom died but with CM rom i use trackball to do all the job. I also got NS and now waiting for GN. I think You'll be better off with Galaxy Nexus since it has dual care which will be useful for future apps.
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I have a chance to buy a new Nexus One. I already have a Motorola Atrix 4G. I had wanted a Nexus One when it first appeared about two years ago. Is it worth buying it now for $180? What do you think guys?
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Definitely not. I just got a Sensation for $200, the touch screen problems and the lack of app storage make it an irritating phone to own. I should know since I just replaced it.
Hi all!
I have a Nexus 5, and I really like it, but it seems like it is almost time to upgrade.
A few questions for you owners and to-be owners:
Is it worth waiting for phones like the One M9, etc,. in your opinion?
Are the black levels really that noticably different on the Nexus 6 when compared to the Nexus 5?
Is it worth waiting for 64-bit and Snapdragon 810 processors?
Is it worth upgrading from the Nexus 5?
Considering Mobile World Congress is under 2 months away, I'm not sure if I should wait. The only other phone I'd likely buy is a One M9 (as the One M8 was the only non-Nexus phone last year with a sizable custom ROM / development community).
That said, HTC's One M9:
Never uses OLED/AMOLED displays
Probably won't use Quantum Dot (which is inferior to OLED)
Might or might not have a better development community than the Nexus 6
Is likely to have a better build quality than the 5
But probably won't have a large display or wireless charging
Might have a Snapdragon 810 octa-core / 64 bit
So - I'm not sure if it's worth waiting the ~1.5 months (1.5 months that I could be using the Nexus 6) to see what might or might not be better than the Nexus 6 based off of speculation for what the One M9 might be like.
Up to you mostly, but apparently, the One M9 will have a Snapdragon 810 (octa core)
Yeah.
I noticed that, but it likely won't have as nice of a screen as the Nexus 6 , which is already plenty fast :-/
But it will probably have nicer build quality and better speakers.
And who knows what it's development community will be like?
Decisions, decisions.
Wait. Either android or the nexus 6 is buggy. Performance isn't great. By the time the m9 is released either android will be fixed or the nexus 6 well be abandoned.
The m8 was a beautiful device. Sense is also very close to stock android and pretty damn snappy. I was on the same boat when my upgrade came in December. I honestly just didn't want to wait u until March for unveiling then maybe april/may for purchase. Newer, better phones will always be released so you would have been asking yourself the same question when the m9 came out (should I wait another 5-6 months for the new nexus).
The m9 will most likely be gorgeous, if they base it on the m8. I've just gotten used to larger displays. A sub 5.5 inch display just isn't cutting it for me. The biggest pro is the 810 chip and whatever power saving abilities it will have. Performance wise, it might clock higher but even the n5 can handle everything you throw at it (app wise).
Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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It is a tough decision. If the nexus 6 had micro SD slot I'd drop the note4. But alas, it does not, but the note4 has many advantages over the nexus6. And of disadvantages. I wish Samsung would drop the physical buttons in favor of software navigation already. I hate touchwiz but it is tameable and the note4 is just about perfect minus the home and physical buttons. I longingly look at the nexus 6 and wait for the next manufacturer to mish mash the best of both the note4 an nexus 6. If the m9 or hima has a 5.5" screen like rumors say I would probably go for that. The m8 and sense were much more tolerable than touchwiz. I am gonna keep my m8 and it's status as my everything goto media player unless the hima blows it out of the water.
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Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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Thanks for the replies so far.
The thing is, the One M8 does have an admirably large development community - the Android Development subforum has ~80,000 replies! Almost matching the growth of the Nexus 5 development community over time. Since I use custom ROMs anyways, having a pure Google experience shouldn't be a problem with such a huge community (that, again, will likely have many custom ROMs based off of pure Android). I believe the developer versions HTC sells come with the bootloader unlocked, so security shouldn't be an issue.
That said, you do make good points!
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It is a tough decision. If the nexus 6 had micro SD slot I'd drop the note4. But alas, it does not, but the note4 has many advantages over the nexus6. And of disadvantages. I wish Samsung would drop the physical buttons in favor of software navigation already. I hate touchwiz but it is tameable and the note4 is just about perfect minus the home and physical buttons. I longingly look at the nexus 6 and wait for the next manufacturer to mish mash the best of both the note4 an nexus 6. If the m9 or hima has a 5.5" screen like rumors say I would probably go for that. The m8 and sense were much more tolerable than touchwiz. I am gonna keep my m8 and it's status as my everything goto media player unless the hima blows it out of the water.
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Thanks for the input.
How are you liking your M8? How is your battery life? How do you think the screen compares to the Note's AMOLED?
One thing to keep in mond about the M9 is that there very possibly won't be a Google Play Edition of it since all signs are pointing to the GPE arrangement being ended.
The M8 has good developer support but as of late we have seen HTC really crack down on development. They have blocked S-Off on most 4.4.4 models and CM has a hard time especially with audio. It looks like the M8 will be the last of the great developement period for HTC unless they pull a fast one for us.
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One thing to keep in mond about the M9 is that there very possibly won't be a Google Play Edition of it since all signs are pointing to the GPE arrangement being ended.
The M8 has good developer support but as of late we have seen HTC really crack down on development. They have blocked S-Off on most 4.4.4 models and CM has a hard time especially with audio. It looks like the M8 will be the last of the great developement period for HTC unless they pull a fast one for us.
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Could you elaborate on this? What is the implication of this on using custom ROMs? Does it mean that if HTC finds a way to permanently block S-Off in future versions we won't be able to use custom non-Sense ROMs?
Agree, best advice if possible.
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Wait. Either android or the nexus 6 is buggy. Performance isn't great. By the time the m9 is released either android will be fixed or the nexus 6 well be abandoned.
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Riktar said:
The m8 was a beautiful device. Sense is also very close to stock android and pretty damn snappy. I was on the same boat when my upgrade came in December. I honestly just didn't want to wait u until March for unveiling then maybe april/may for purchase. Newer, better phones will always be released so you would have been asking yourself the same question when the m9 came out (should I wait another 5-6 months for the new nexus).
The m9 will most likely be gorgeous, if they base it on the m8. I've just gotten used to larger displays. A sub 5.5 inch display just isn't cutting it for me. The biggest pro is the 810 chip and whatever power saving abilities it will have. Performance wise, it might clock higher but even the n5 can handle everything you throw at it (app wise).
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Yes, I've always been a phablet user, older eyes need bigger displays, I started on the HTC HD2, then HTC Sensation, followed by AMaze, Followed by Samsung G4 then G5 then note 3, to LGG3 to Nexus 6 and Note 4. AS you can see, I like Phablets which to me seem small in my hands. As the previous poster said, The Nexus 6 with Lollipop is incomplete and has it share of bugs and imperfection, especially in options and settings. So many things you may take for granted on other devices turn out to be features of said device and not standard usability. I am waiting for the big update later this month or next to see what is added or addressed and what is considered a feature. A lot of press as claimed not much in the way of features or settings, or usability is going to be addressed because it is the way google as chosen to go. Unreal that they think the ambient notification helps deaf people more than a blinking LED, but that is their position. I disagree with their thought process and find it hard to believe that somehow the new notification system makes it easier to tell what you have received. To me it makes little sense but I am used to the old fashion LED system and may be biased in my thinking.
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BenDroid1 said:
Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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I have yet to get a phone that was unrootable if you needed to have root for some reason. In fact, now that I have the nexus six, it's the first phone that I have not rooted yet, only because I feel the phone should do most of the things I like without rooting and at that point root it to use titanium back up.
Most ROM's solve the performance issues by disabling decryption, right?
That said if HTC will actually stunt ROMing on the One M9, I might simply just get the Nexus 6. Nothing annoys me more than having to wait months upon months because a company decided that developers shouldn't develop.
tusing said:
Most ROM's solve the performance issues by disabling decryption, right?
That said if HTC will actually stunt ROMing on the One M9, I might simply just get the Nexus 6. Nothing annoys me more than having to wait months upon months because a company decided that developers shouldn't develop.
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That was the first thing I did was disable the encryption. Ive had absolutely no issues with performance whatsoever. This is the fastest phone I've ever owned. I came for the HTC m8. I don't know what's your carrier is but I'm verizon and I know things are getting tougher and tougher to unlock as far as bootloaders and even root. Just look at the Samsung devices on Verizon they are so locked down and i may be wrong but I'd be surprised if the new HTC m9 achieves s off for Verizon. I'm at the point now where if I can't have an unlocked bootloader and an easily rootable device I'm going to go ahead and switch to an AT&T SIM on straight talk and continue to buy devices at full retail as I have been doing. . The only reason I've stuck with Verizon is because I work in a steel building in the only reason I get signal is because there is a Verizon tower on the company property in the back and I still hardly get any signal inside.
Great topic
This is same question I've been considering for a while too. I actually like HTC's skin (not nearly as much as Stock Android but still) and I'm sure it'll get plenty of development. But Stock Android is too good to resist.. and so are timely updates.
There's also the chance that future non-Nexus Android phones will be more locked down.
All in all, I want to see what the M9 brings to the table.
am a little bit of a htc fan boy as you can see in my signature i have the nexus 6 at the moment and i love it if you look around online the note about the snap 810 being serious throttled and having way bad over heating issues and the rumours that its going to be delayed just wont go away as the snap 810 is in the lg flex 2 and even our nexus 6 beats it in antutu and i was planing on getting the m9 instead but went with the nexus 6 as i dont really want to be the beta testers for qualicom and pay £550 for the privilege lol
If me I will wait for m9 or z4
It truly depends on what you want from a software perspective. No non-nexus devices development community ever compares in size to a Nexus Development community. OEM devices are notoriously difficult to get AOSP working well on, so if you want AOSP, Nexus devices are best for that.