Google Tech Support says Patch for Battery Drain Coming Soon - Nexus 4 General

I decided to call Google Tech support for the answer to ask whether the ear piece buzzing is causing battery drain. That's my only concern. I don't care if there's a buzz (the iPhone 4S had it, as did the GN, as do a few other phones).
And the fella I spoke with says the earpiece buzzing is not the father of your baby (/Maury mode) -- I mean, not causing battery drain.
He said it's a manufacturing defect and they'd be happy to send a replacement unit (I said, sure) but he assures that they've looked into it and it's not causing battery drain.
He went on to say Google is planning to send out an update very soon to patch a few bugs, including battery drain issue.
The gentleman sounded legit, but who knows. I hope it is true.
I urge y'all to call Google Tech Support and ask the same. Let's see if there's any consensus.

onthecouchagain said:
I decided to call Google Tech support for the answer to ask whether the ear piece buzzing is causing battery drain. That's my only concern. I don't care if there's a buzz (the iPhone 4S had it, as did the GN, as do a few other phones).
And the fella I spoke with says the earpiece buzzing is not the father of your baby (/Maury mode) -- I mean, not causing battery drain.
He said it's a manufacturing defect and they'd be happy to send a replacement unit (I said, sure) but he assures that they've looked into it and it's not causing battery drain.
He went on to say Google is planning to send out an update very soon to patch a few bugs, including battery drain issue.
The gentleman sounded legit, but who knows. I hope it is true.
I urge y'all to call Google Tech Support and ask the same. Let's see if there's any consensus.
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Pretty certain he's correct,
Hasn't every nexus phone received a fast point release update that fixes a ton of things, improves performance and battery?
Doubt they would change that with the Nexus 4.
It would have been 4.2.1 but due to the December bug, it will have to be something else (4.2.2 probably lol)
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wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.

dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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No.
Sent from my Nexus 4

I don't think there is a battery drain issue. If you call it an upgrade that improves the battery then that's a different story.
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enviii said:
I don't think there is a battery drain issue. If you call it an upgrade that improves the battery then that's a different story.
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Exactly.
This isn't a widespread problem.
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Google also said USB otg was supposed to be on this phone. Look at where that went.
I voided my warranty.

dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both.
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+1 on the "bad reception" part. I just got a signal booster from T-Mobile for my house (I work from home). Before installing it, my battery was generally around 10% by bedtime. The last two days it's been 40% and 50%. It's a very noticeable difference.

wmm said:
+1 on the "bad reception" part. I just got a signal booster from T-Mobile for my house (I work from home). Before installing it, my battery was generally around 10% by bedtime. The last two days it's been 40% and 50%. It's a very noticeable difference.
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I'd love to get one of those but I don't want to shell out several hundred dollars.

Yeah. Android phones perform notoriously badly with low signal. I lost 30% at work in 1 hour because it kept trying to sync. Compare that with usually going home with 40% left.
Anyway I'm not saying battery can't be improved on this phone. But there really isn't a drain issue present.
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This would be nice though to get that update soon. 4.2.2 I'm guessing.
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There is no battery drain issue.
Learn how to control what is running in the background.
/thread

I hope they raise the damn thermal throttle too.

I hope they respond to USB OTG.
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revamper said:
There is no battery drain issue.
Learn how to control what is running in the background.
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Then how would you explain that most nexus 4 drain over 2-5% per hour while idling around doing nothing?
And how about you fix, for example, the msm_hsic_host wakelock that's active up to 50% of the standby time? Come on, I'm sure you can do it with killing background apps!

Nuu~ said:
Then how would you explain that most nexus 4 drain over 2-5% per hour while idling around doing nothing?
And how about you fix, for example, the msm_hsic_host wakelock that's active up to 50% of the standby time? Come on, I'm sure you can do it with killing background apps!
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Mines don't have a 2-5% drain per hour. But then again, I am on a custom rom and kernel.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I'd love to get one of those but I don't want to shell out several hundred dollars.
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It's free...just make sure to return it when you are done with Tmo.
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zephiK said:
Mines don't have a 2-5% drain per hour. But then again, I am on a custom rom and kernel.
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Yes, custom ROMs are already addressing certain issues. the battery drain and other stuff are definitely present in the stock firmware.

Guys, there are a lot of battery issues threads & guides & faqs and whatever on XDA. Look, for example, for one in my signature. Though it's for my previous device, most of things are still relevant.

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dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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There certainly is an issue which I've been suffering. Note in my case there is nothing recorded in the usual battery usage statistics to pin point any problem.
I found overnight and excessive daytime power drain in my case is because the CPU isn't entering deep sleep (using CPU Spy). Typically deep sleep should be in the 90 plus percentage range of all states. In my case it was spending 90% or more in the 384MHz state, so it was never really sleeping, and hadn't entered deep sleep at all, it was an unused state! This causes two problems, one, even though the CPU power drain is small, it adds up over the course of a night or day and eats power, and two, it also means the OS is up and running, so all applications are alive and any app that wants to ping home, download some ads or sync is free to do so which means the cell connection is constantly being kept active trickling packets of data back and forth, causing even more power drain.
Yes an application that has permission to stop the phone from sleeping is often the cause, in my case however battery stats showed no application keeping the phone awake, so I was baffled.
After a lot of troubleshooting I think it might be an issue with applications writing to the emulated SD card, perhaps keeping a file handle open, and this stops the phone entering deep-sleep at a low level in the kernel. As it is happening deeper down outside of Android it doesn't need an application with a keep awake permission to keep the phone awake, and also evades androids battery stats.
In my case I was running Bootlog Uptime, a small app with no permission to keep the phone awake but it does have permission to modify the contents on the SD card and I assume updating a log file on the SD card during the period the phone is awake, probably in order to detect a crash. As soon as this was uninstalled, even without restarting, my phone started deep sleeping.
Now overnight in flight mode it started out with 82% battery, and 9 hours later still had 82% battery! Now out of flight mode, it's been on for a few hours and has just dropped down to 81%.
Note that his application is running happily on a Nexus 7 and HTC One X without causing any issues, hence I think there is some driver in the kernel for the Nexus 4 that is incorrectly refusing to allow the CPU to deep sleep if it sees some activity in the flash memory.
Regards
Phil

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XT860: High Battery usage "Cell standby" culprit

Has anyone with the XT860 on Rogers noticed a high Cell Standby? With 2G enabled on my phone the problem persists, same with 3G.
I can barely get 12 hours from my battery and I have the extended battery directly from the Verizon store.
Any thoughts?
pfak said:
Has anyone with the XT860 on Rogers noticed a high Cell Standby? With 2G enabled on my phone the problem persists, same with 3G.
I can barely get 12 hours from my battery and I have the extended battery directly from the Verizon store.
Any thoughts?
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Yup, same here...
Do you have any applications running? Trillian was killing my battery before (I think) and stopped using it, although my battery isn't all tha much better. I think we need an update...
I'm also on rogers though, is any XT860 users on Bell also noticing the same thing? Btw I uninstalled JuiceDefender as it was slowing my phone down a lot.
danifunker said:
Yup, same here...
Do you have any applications running? Trillian was killing my battery before (I think) and stopped using it, although my battery isn't all tha much better. I think we need an update...
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I use Trillian, but I also used Trillian on my old phone (HTC Desire Z) and received a magnitude better battery life (one and a half days.) Even with Trillian not enabled on my device, I am seeing the same drain occurring.
I'm on Telus and Cell standby is using 30% of my battery.
data always off..
Mathieu2k4 said:
I'm on Telus and Cell standby is using 30% of my battery.
data always off..
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How long do you have to go between charges of your device?
15h average
10h now with 30% remaining
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15h average
10h now with 30% remaining
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That's absolutely disgustingly terrible :| .. and to think I bought this phone for better battery life.
It has to have something to do with Bell Mobility. Mine has no battery problem; lasts up to 30-37 hours on one full charge. It never connects to Bell's networks (only AT&T), so I'm thinking, what if there is some Bell bloatware or low-level network reporting/feedback software that is constantly communicating to some server on Bell's networks, and since my phone has no access to Bell's networks then the software is prevented from working its evil battery-draining magic..?
I don't know. Just a suggestion; why would the exact same phone model not eat battery on AT&T's networks when it does on Bell's?
pfak said:
That's absolutely disgustingly terrible :| .. and to think I bought this phone for better battery life.
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"Mototola" and "better battery life" in the same sentence ?
I'm on the Telus network with my 860. Presently I'm at 14hours with 40% battery left, with moderate to heavy usage. Seems pretty normal to me, like my original Milestone.
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I'm on the Telus network with my 860. Presently I'm at 14hours with 40% battery left, with moderate to heavy usage. Seems pretty normal to me, like my original Milestone.
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Motorola phones are too dependent on the network.
When I got my milestone, with the first firmware, I barely reached the 2pm, with the vodafone sim, with the same FW it lasted almost a whole day with a three.it SIM.
Looks like the situation is almost unchanged
I read in other threads that the Verizon Droid 3 had the same problem when it was released, but after the update, this problem was fixed. I'm on TELUS with my XT860.
I unplug it at 7h30 in the morning and plug it at 23h00 at night with 30% left.
Also, I read the whole CM7 ROM thread and talk about how Motorola seems to have purposefully decided to attenuate cell phone reception (in system files, fixable) to make it seem like the US Droid 3 has a better radio reception.... that last part could be speculation about how Motorola decided to program the device, but this reminds me of how Apple "fixed" the iPhone 4 deathgrip issue by only reprogramming how the device displays and understands the radio signal strenght level.
I'm using an XT860 on AT&T's network. Only had it for a few days but the battery life isn't too terrible - about on par with my Desire Z.
Right now I have been unplugged for 17 hours and am down to 17% battery life remaining. While its nothing to shout about its not too terrible either, considering it is still completely stock. Here's my usage for the day (pretty typical day for me):
Gmail and Work Email 'Pushing' to device constantly
Send/Receive approx 150 texts
Playing Wordfeud throughout the day - +/- 30 moves
30 minutes of calling - all using bluetooth connection to headset
Wifi on when at home - approx 7 hours
Display brightness at 50%
About 30 minutes of web browsing and digging around in market
According to the battery stats, cell standby is still the biggest culprit at 36% followed by phone idle at 33% and wifi at 16%. Everything else is below 10% (although not sure how much I trust the accuracy of these numbers)
We will see how it does over the next week or so. I still may decide to go with the larger 1930 mah battery for days where I use the phone more heavily but as long as I can make it from the time I rise from bed to the time I go to sleep on one charge, I'm happy.
Wow that is good battery life. My battery seems weaker.
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This is a known issue. The Droid 3 had the same problem until the 5.6.980 update was released. I read in a thread somewhere an experiment someone had done. Short story is he found the phone acted like it was constantly searching for signal, despite having strong signal. I emailed Motorola asking if and when we could see an update to fix this and some other known issues on the xt860 and they were pretty useless. I think every xt860 owner should email them, maybe we can get some support here.
My battery lasts maybe 10 hours if I'm lucky, less if I actually use it. I have to plug it in every chance I get. There are so many things I love about this phone, but battery life and lack of ROM dev are 2 things I hate. I'm thinking about getting a D3 and unlocking it.
Sent from my rooted xt860
Endoroid said:
This is a known issue. The Droid 3 had the same problem until the 5.6.980 update was released. I read in a thread somewhere an experiment someone had done. Short story is he found the phone acted like it was constantly searching for signal, despite having strong signal. I emailed Motorola asking if and when we could see an update to fix this and some other known issues on the xt860 and they were pretty useless. I think every xt860 owner should email them, maybe we can get some support here.
My battery lasts maybe 10 hours if I'm lucky, less if I actually use it. I have to plug it in every chance I get. There are so many things I love about this phone, but battery life and lack of ROM dev are 2 things I hate. I'm thinking about getting a D3 and unlocking it.
Sent from my rooted xt860
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Is it the 50% w/o signal bug? Does airplane mode every boot fix it? I had that problem witness my Droid Eris and that fixed it.
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MrObvious said:
Is it the 50% w/o signal bug? Does airplane mode every boot fix it? I had that problem witness my Droid Eris and that fixed it.
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I had to Google that. No I don't believe so. Keeping in mind this is not info I've gotten from moto/bell/Verizon but rather because I spend too much time reading these forums. The speculation was that the radio searches for a signal, like it was in a low/no signal area, even if it had full strength. To elaborate on my previous post, someone who owned an OG droid and a D3 brought them around with him all day, in his office he never had any cell reception and at home he had great reception. At the office both phones lost battery at about the same rate and had similar battery usage stats, as they both spent all their time searching for signal. At home the droid3 continued to lose battery at the same rate, like it was still searching for signal, even though it had full, while the OG battery loss slowed way down.
I'd find the thread except it was awhile ago and I'm way too lazy to look for it. I also know that when Verizon released the 5.6.890 update, this issue seemed to be fixed.
Also I sometimes have to toggle airplane mode as my data seems to stop working and it never fixes this problem. I think these are 2 very separate bugs
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I can report same here. Mine is primarily on Rogers, but does same on Telus too.
Another bug I noticed is car dock triggers very high battery drain. Just insert and remove the phone from the car dock and battery starts draining about 3-4 times faster, device gets warm too. Nothing fixes it but reboot. I had 2 XT860 (first one got replaced due to faulty memory) both show same issues. Media dock also has a bug - disables the auto backlight, but at least has no battery drain issue. Not to mention the crappy smurf camera...
Motorola, where is our "890" update???
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leobg said:
I can report same here. Mine is primarily on Rogers, but does same on Telus too.
Another bug I noticed is car dock triggers very high battery drain. Just insert and remove the phone from the car dock and battery starts draining about 3-4 times faster, device gets warm too. Nothing fixes it but reboot. I had 2 XT860 (first one got replaced due to faulty memory) both show same issues. Media dock also has a bug - disables the auto backlight, but at least has no battery drain issue. Not to mention the crappy smurf camera...
Motorola, where is our "890" update???
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I emailed Motorola about it and was told they could not give a timeframe onwhen an update would be made available
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Has anyone else looked at the logs for the radio on the XT860 with the Bell firmware? It's absolutely being spammed!
If you have the Android SDK installed, you can see the radio messages by executing the following command:
Code:
adb logcat -b radio
I suspect this part of the issue, and would like to see what the results are like on the XT862 (from Verizon.)

Worried about that msim_hsic_wakelock? Stop.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/113702637309752822154/posts/giNhQrAGriL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBsuBzulE
So areas with lower signal results in more wakelocks if it is indeed the radio??
Just wondering sa I do not know how to interpret what the status update means.
PoisonWolf said:
So areas with lower signal results in more wakelocks if it is indeed the radio??
Just wondering sa I do not know how to interpret what the status update means.
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That's the logical conclusion, yes. Or even if hopping between different areas.
IAmAN00bie said:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/113702637309752822154/posts/giNhQrAGriL
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Oh so people should just stop caring that this thing is causing their phone to be awake for 50% of the time it's off the charger? People should just stop caring that they get 10 hours off charger and 2 hour screen on time before battery dies.
No.
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phositadc said:
Oh so people should just stop caring that this thing is causing their phone to be awake for 50% of the time it's off the charger? People should just stop caring that they get 10 hours off charger and 2 hour screen on time before battery dies.
No.
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Not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that this probably isn't the reason for your battery drain.
phositadc said:
Oh so people should just stop caring that this thing is causing their phone to be awake for 50% of the time it's off the charger? People should just stop caring that they get 10 hours off charger and 2 hour screen on time before battery dies.
No.
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Making strawman arguments do not contribute to the overall discussion at all. There is very little concrete evidence and reasoning to support that the kernel wakelock has been a factor for battery woes.
And if you're only getting 2 hours of screen on time with 10 hours, you honestly need to check for rogue apps. I'm constantly getting over 3 hours with over 15+ hours off the charger.
Plus, I would think that a developer would know much better than others in this thread including me, which the initial information was derived from Ricardo.
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That's the logical conclusion, yes. Or even if hopping between different areas.
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I believe a change in signal strength will wake the phone to record such a fact (the modem raises an interrupt which in turn wakes the phone from Deep sleep but it will return quite quickly to sleep once the data is recorded), this is how the battery usage chart can show the strength (in color) of the mobile signal in the chart, also other battery stat apps will show the percentage of signal strength between 1 and 5. Interestingly I think this is disable on the HTC One X as it never registered anything other than medium signal strength, probably a tweak by HTC in order to save some battery power, they turned off the interrupt.
Every wake up will use a bit of power but the CPU is designed to wake and sleep.
More worryingly I've had some instances where the Nexus has stopped entering deep sleep state, see link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35215730&postcount=20
So far after I identified the reason in my case the phone might have been remaining awak it has been deep sleeping fine and the battery is great.
Regards
Phil
The forum isn't a link sharing website so unless you've got something useful to say and post please don't just post a link. Weak/changing signal has always resulted in poorer battery performance but maybe that's stating the obvious. Either way thread closed.
Thanks
AvRS

[Q] Real life HTC One talk time, 5 hours?

My several day old HTC One is a fantastic phone (best I have owned yet), but I'm having to be very careful to keep the battery lasting an entire day.
In particular I am noticing that voice calls are the biggest drain on my battery.
2 hours and 20 minutes of talk time used 55% of my battery life yesterday.
I have read multiple sources with tests pegging the talk time at 14 hours+ (AnandTech, HTC official).
Is this typical or is there potentially a software or hardware issue?
I haven't done any serious tweaking to the software, and am running powersaver and have screen dimmed to 30%.
Thanks!
You have to see a lot of thing...
1) You had the full signal for all the calls?
2) Your phone was all time with the idle screen?
3) Did you have 3G or 4G on?
Details
I have three bars usually. I am always in 3G. As far as idle screen sometimes I am browsing while phone call is happening.
Does the strength of the signal effect talk time?
Strength of signal definitely affects the talk time. Also if you put the phone on 2g mode when you are not using data and just talking you will get a better battery life. Check for wakelocks as well. I also discovered when I was using htc sense launcher my app usage was about 89% but now I'm using smart launcher and my app usage is 70% and I'm getting better battery life. I've also disabled the maps coz it has a lot of wake locks.
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Also, in my opinion, is the best phone I already had and I have been a iPhone fan for a longue time... With LTE one is very difficult to manage the battery for one day... If you can't charge during the day you are in trouble... Other complain I have is the high temperature on the back if i'm using for a longer time....
Enviado do meu HTC One, usando o Tapatalk 2.
spacefoam said:
I have three bars usually. I am always in 3G. As far as idle screen sometimes I am browsing while phone call is happening.
Does the strength of the signal effect talk time?
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The tests for the timings are done with voice calls and no screen on. If your using the screen as well its double trouble
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I have read multiple sources with tests pegging the talk time at 14 hours+ (AnandTech, HTC official).
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That's really low compared to yours. Also, using the speakers eat up a ton more battery, and if the screen is on as well, well that's another issue
I think I figured it out...
In case anyone else reads this thread, after some testing I think I found out what was causing the huge spike in voice app usage.
I now believe that playing music through the phones speakers counts toward the usage of the voice app.
When I use the speakers, huge battery drain. When I don't it's ok.
Hopefully case closed!

I simply can not get good battery life with this phone!

I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
The HTC one isn't the best phone when it comes to standby time but still,I find battery life to be pretty good, super easy to get through a work day. Maybe you have an app that is running in the background and draining your battery. Install betterbatterystats and try monitoring your apps. That's all I can think of. Also take a look at the battery stats thread and see if folks can help you there.
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Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
peterg21 said:
As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
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Wow thanks. I was starting to wonder what crazy app I downloaded. Forgot I was messing with settings. Lo and behold that option was checked. I didn't have it checked when ibfirst got this phone and had awesome batt life.
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Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage.
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Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
Edit:Just got an update for Whatsapp (and Facebook and Skype all at once), let's hope it fixes the battery drain.....
Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
godutch said:
Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
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Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
I Am Marino said:
Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
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I only undervolted by 50mV in Aroma. Maybe I should set it back at standard?
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tiny4579 said:
Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
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I bought a packet inspector and found it causes a lot of wake ups, like every minute or so....
Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
I whatsapp and check Twitter news apps sometime a game.
And i can do easy 12 hours max 17 with this usage .
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I was just thinking of the good battery performance I've been getting from the handset so far funnily enough.
I think it's been very good after only a couple of days with it.
Been using it moderately to heavy and it's held up pretty well. Over 13 hours now. Maybe it's certain apps u are using that's giving u problems with high drainage.
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cuyo11 said:
Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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What are your sync values set at for all your accounts...anything constantly updating will drain battery quickly
25% battery used for 1hr screen on time and 11hrs of standby
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I got mine FIXED !
I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
salgrign said:
I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I know that but mine was like 48 C at the peak when its hot which is very uncomfortable to hold that's why I said overheat. Anyway now its fixed and I don't have any complaints.
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Also be sure to not use screen lock sounds or input sounds... the lock sound is the worst. I think it causes a wakelock bug that has been on Android since 4.0
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Idle drain still a problem?

Is idle drain still a problem after people have rooted and frozen bloat apps? Here is a screen shot of good idle drain from an HTC one mini. 3% in 9 hours.
When I had an X and a Droid Mini, they lost 10-15% in that same time period, despite showing 98% deep sleep in better battery stats. And they were setup exactly the same as the one mini.
Anybody with an X getting anything close to as good as what I posted?
And for those who want to say "who cares," the point is that idle drain overnight is indicative of idle drain during the day. Bad idle drain is a symptom of other problems and poor optimization by Motorola, imo, and it concerns me.
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My idle drain is comparable to what you posted. I went to bed at about midnight with a full charge and now it's 7 and I'm at 98%.
I don't really notice it. I charge overnight and it lasts through the entire day and into the late evenings (8-11pm). When you're getting 5 hours of screen time, I think the optimization is working lol.
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My idle drain is comparable to what you posted. I went to bed at about midnight with a full charge and now it's 7 and I'm at 98%.
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Did you do anything to the qualcom running process like someone else did? I thought we were supposed to leave that one alone. Curious now
rmead01 said:
Did you do anything to the qualcom running process like someone else did? I thought we were supposed to leave that one alone. Curious now
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Nope, haven't touched it. It doesn't give me any issues.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Nope, haven't touched it. It doesn't give me any issues.
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure my setup is mimicking yours. I do have xposed installed for motoxposed but I'm still on the fence whether it's causing any slow downs or not.
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure my setup is mimicking yours. I do have xposed installed for motoxposed but I'm still on the fence whether it's causing any slow downs or not.
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Are you seeing excessive idle drain? Metal head is about the only person I've seen posting good things about idle drain. I'm tempted to buy another X now that we have root, but seeing 15% drain in 8 or 9 hours of idle just bothers me to no end for some reason.
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Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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linuxgator said:
Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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I actually tested this and for me it did not make a difference. In fact, turning off active notifications did not affect idle drain either--it was excessive either way.
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linuxgator said:
Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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Also I would add that I think this problem affects most X owners, even though some (or most) will never notice. The battery threads show that pretty much EVERYBODY has higher than normal android OS use, due to the kernel according to gsam battery monitor. I think that is what's responsible for the drain, and personally I couldn't get it to go down even when I disabled everything. Android OS simply should not be the #2 battery drain behind screen, and it almost universally is on the X and the new Droids.
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phositadc said:
Also I would add that I think this problem affects most X owners, even though some (or most) will never notice. The battery threads show that pretty much EVERYBODY has higher than normal android OS use, due to the kernel according to gsam battery monitor. I think that is what's responsible for the drain, and personally I couldn't get it to go down even when I disabled everything. Android OS simply should not be the #2 battery drain behind screen, and it almost universally is on the X and the new Droids.
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My Android OS drain is significantly lower now than it was before I froze everything. We're talking 11% vs 62% for the screen.
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phositadc said:
Are you seeing excessive idle drain? Metal head is about the only person I've seen posting good things about idle drain. I'm tempted to buy another X now that we have root, but seeing 15% drain in 8 or 9 hours of idle just bothers me to no end for some reason.
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Nope, just always looking at finding better batt life. Last avg was 0.7% drain overnight. Just did a complete reinstall of the OS, root, and freeze. Going to see what happens tonight. Also hoping my moto assist starts working.
Is your wifi & mobile network access enabled under location access? That also causes drain, seemingly constantly. As far as I know, that is a bug with Google services and isn't unique to the X, but most prevalent in 4.2+ devices.
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linuxgator said:
Is your wifi & mobile network access enabled under location access? That also causes drain, seemingly constantly. As far as I know, that is a bug with Google services and isn't unique to the X, but most prevalent in 4.2+ devices.
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always. If I turn this off google now and anything else that needs GPS stops functioning. takes too long to get a gps lock without.

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