So, I was curious about gamepads being connected to the Nexus 7.
I did a little research and found the sixaxis app, as well as usb/bt joystick center 6.
What I'm seeing is that there is a lot of commotion about not being able to use USB devices after the 4.2 update (which I'm on, but rooted and unlocked). Apparently the USB host is locked up tight in 4.2, for whatever reason.
Do any apps still work for using a controller as they did before? Is there a community made kernel or OS update that fixes this for the Nexus 7?
There's a ton of random complaining on the internet, about different devices not being able to use some of these apps recently, but I couldn't find any real info about what the real scoop is.
I'd mostly just like to connect a generic logitech game pad, or a pocket sized bluetooth keyboard, and use it for old NES emulated games, or some such. I don't really need anything fancy going on, but I've no idea if they work at all anymore, or what kind of app will do it after 4.2.
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I think most of this is the cause from Google swapping Bluetooth stacks to a better one by it broke compatibility with apps that were wrote with the old stack in mind.
I'm not sure what the status is on this but it is just growing pains. Google isn't blocking or specifically dropping support. Just a newer stack and updates weren't as quick as people had hoped.
USB Host mode is built in to the latest Paranoid Android beta and he said it was pretty easy to get working.
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I can't speak for the logitech game pad or the keyboard but sixaxis app (the one by Dancing Pixels) was updated recently and it works perfectly for me, as far as gamepads you can't go wrong with a standard PS3 controller.
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I think most of this is the cause from Google swapping Bluetooth stacks to a better one by it broke compatibility with apps that were wrote with the old stack in mind.
I'm not sure what the status is on this but it is just growing pains. Google isn't blocking or specifically dropping support. Just a newer stack and updates weren't as quick as people had hoped.
USB Host mode is built in to the latest Paranoid Android beta and he said it was pretty easy to get working.
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Excellent news.
Thank you for summing it up!
It seems like a lot of people on the net are in the dark on this, so I'm glad to hear it's because Android moves at a (sometimes overly) fast pace and not because of a complete lock-down of sorts. I'll check out that ROM.
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Is 360's wired pad only usb-gamepad which work with N7?
I finally got otg-cable and tried my two Logitech pc-pad(digital, and another with PS3-style sticks) but neither
one work in games. I can move in homescreen, but in games only "move"-work(digital/stick), but none of the
buttons work, they just doesn't do anything.
It is possible the games only detect the 360 controller. The only game I found that supported it natively was Sonic 4 Episode 2. I think it is the game that has to be able to detect/support it. I think there are some apps out there to assist with getting gamepads to work though.
i was thinking about the nyko game pad. ive seen some reviews of it . its pretty neat because it uses a bluetooth connection. im still not sure if nyko solves the riddle about this game pad stuff. can't help spending $30++ to bluetooth game pad that wont work as it was advertised..
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OK, granted I don't know much but maybe this thread can group peoples Ideas on a suitable controller for the captivate.
I know the WII Controller app currently doesn't work for us, but we do see that the controller hardware does offer the opportunity to pair with the phone over bluetooth.
I guess the first step is to successfully get the pairing, is this possible somehow? would a successful password hack make it happen?
I guess second would be to have it recognize buttons in a keyboard fashion to work with most emulators.
I know the developer of the existing wii controller app has said we probably get his app working, and I don't blame hime for not trying to get every phone to work, but i feel there is enough talent here to maybe get our own solution?
Or, if anyone actually has a better solution to the hope for an external controller, please help us all!
Wait the WII app does not work for us? I was about to hit BB :-(
Unfortunately the test app didn't work for me, and the developer has the captivate on the list of phones that currently are not compatible and most likely will not be compatible in the future with his software.
Ouch :-(
Not good news but better than me buying the wiimote for nothing.
I am assume is a matter of time before someone comes up with one anyway
Has anybody tried pairing a Playstation 3 controller with the phone? PS3 + HDMI via USB cable would make a great portable gaming console for when out of town at family, etc.
I'd definately contribute cash towards getting a working driver if needed.
EDIT: Also, MSI has a bluetooth gamepad that works with the phone. Google MSI BGP100. My biggest complaint/concern is that the controller doesn't seem to be designed to accommodate a phone in landscape mode, so that's a bit of a drawn back for playing games on the go (as opposed to hooking it up to a TV or monitor, where it wouldn't be an issue).
I actually emailed the dev about future compatibility for our phones, he said it's samsungs proprietary bluetooth drivers that are incompatible with the wiimote.
If we were to flash a vanilla android rom or something, it would work just fine.
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"Hello,
thank you for your question.
You're right about the frequency of these kind of requests. Newer Samsung phones unfortunately use proprietary bluetooth stacks (developed by Samsung) instead of the default that is in Android, named Bluez. That proprietary stack doesn't support the type of connection that wiimotes need to connect.
So, the only way currently for you to have this app working is if you get rid of that bluetooth stack. If you want to, you can root and flash your phone with a custom ROM. "Vanilla" ROMs have had success with other non-compatible phones in the past. Vanilla just means a type of ROM that is made from code that originates directly from Google, not from Samsung. One known creator of good quality vanilla ROM is cyanogen from xda-developers.com, but I don't believe his ROMs can run on the Galaxy (yet).
A friendly word of caution: rooting and flashing probably voids your phone's warranty and you also loose all the data (like contacts, app settings, etc) so MAKE BACKUPS before doing anything.
Best regards,
Piki"
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
Amen brother
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This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!
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This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.
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Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!
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So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.
Has anyone ever tried interfacing a standard controller through the microUSB port? Or custom building such a device?
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So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.
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It depends on the drivers otherwise no bluetooth device will be able to connect...at least that is how I see it.
no that the psx emulator is out and resedent evil 3 works perfectly, i would like to see some kind of gamepad, sucks theres no way to use a controller.. , is there even anyone working on getting this done???
Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!
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Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!
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Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.
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vibrant roms work with a few known and easily fixed issues with button logic. there may be other issues i cant remember but it is doable. as long as the vibrant is getting attention it should be enough.
Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!
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Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!
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Wouldn't be too sure about that since he removed bluez after version 5 saying it caused more trouble than it was worth. It would seem the only hope we have now is for gdanko's aosp froyo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815420&page=18
Indeed it seems aosp is a gamer's only hope for our beloved captivate... we need the non samsung proprietary Bluetooth stack.
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just tested while using a wiimote but playstation has 8 buttons excluding the directional pad and start and select. what bluetooth remote will work perfect with this emulator using the wiimote app from the market? is there a wiimote classic bluetooth controller roaming around or is there another remote that will work just as good.
currently reading reviews on:
http://us.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-Wireless-Retro-Controller__EF000622.aspx
I would definitely also like to know this.
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this is what you want http://www.icontrolpad.com/
ive got mine on order will post how well it works as soon as i get it.
the joysticks wont work until the dev codes them in though
Waiting for this:
The Bluetooth Game Gripper is a great way to play games on your iPhone, Droid X, or other supported smart phone. The various app stores are full of tons of fun games, but what about the greatest games of all time? *Super Mario, *Contra, and *Sonic the Hedgehog (to name a few) can also be played through emulating programs on your phone. The on-screen controls just don't work or feel right. This is where the Bluetooth Game Gripper comes in; it gives you all the buttons you need and holds your phone securely in place while you play.
This project started in March of last year when I was trying to play games on my phone. I had an idea for the original game gripper (can be found at game-gripper . com) it was a gamepad that worked on phones with slide out keyboards. Since then, we've received countless requests for a game pad that would work for phones without a keyboard such as the iPhone, the Nexus one and the Droid X. I started working on it right away, and this is the result of months of work.
In the end I decided to pair up with a company that manufactures bluetooth Keyboards. They are supplying me with circuit boards that have already been in production for a while. It works out great for this project because the CE and FCC certifications are done and phones can hook up to their standard HID interface. Button presses come across as letters on the keyboard so they are easily mapped with any of the existing emulators on the android market. I dropped an email to one of the major iPhone emulator makers and he agreed to team with us to support the game gripper.
Supported phones:
We have successfully gotten the Bluetooth Game Gripper working on these devices and will be avidly testing it on more in the coming weeks.
I-phone 4
Ipad
DroidX
HTC Touch Pro II
Nexus one
Nexus S
Motorola Click
Galaxy S tab
HTC Evo, if rooted with Cyanogenmod
With these phones, it does not work with the native bluetooth application or the Blueinput driver but we will continue to try to get them to work using other drivers
HTC Hero
Samsung Epic
Palm Pixi
If you want to volunteer to help identify phones that work with the Bluetooth Game Gripper, please email us at [email protected]. We would also like to know of any games you find that allow for key mapping.
Our goal of $30,000 only represents a small part of what it costs to get something like this into production. We set the goal low so that we can easily hit our target in the short, 2 week time frame we have set, get funded, and get into production. That way, you can get your Game Gripper as soon as possible. We hope to start shipping in late April or sooner. Thank you for any and all donations, support, facebook posts, and tweets to help get this product off the ground!
*Note: Using a backed-up game ROM is only legal if you properly back up a cartridge that you own, which I do. I do not support or condone illegal downloading.
Project location: Salt Lake City, UT
seems like some good alternatives. i like playing ps2 on my phone but some games cant be played with a wiimote which is pretty much my only option now.
Just in case if you are not aware, Modern Combat 3 is on sale for $0.99 on Android Market. This game is suppose to be compatible with Bionic.
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Pretty good game so far! Also recommend going with Sixaxis controller so you can use it to play a crap load easier! Also hooking it up to the big screen via hdmi and using the controller is kinda awesome!
blubyu87gt said:
Pretty good game so far! Also recommend going with Sixaxis controller so you can use it to play a crap load easier! Also hooking it up to the big screen via hdmi and using the controller is kinda awesome!
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I didn't think any gameloft games supported Bluetooth controllers, I tried a few a couple months back and they weren't compatible. I did find a controller called phone joy that's a dualshock knock off that supposedly let's you play any android game with it but it cost almost as much as a dualshock and has a long back order.
The sixaxis app can be set to emulate an actual screen touch. You can make a touch profile that has the X button on the controller register as a screen press to the specific area to fire. Pretty spiffy. Makes GTA3 fun as hell too! Does require root... But if you're on this site that's likely not an issue.
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The sixaxis app can be set to emulate an actual screen touch. You can make a touch profile that has the X button on the controller register as a screen press to the specific area to fire. Pretty spiffy. Makes GTA3 fun as hell too! Does require root... But if you're on this site that's likely not an issue.
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GTA 3 says it supports Bluetooth controllers such as the dualshock 3 and wiimote but it doesn't work with my dualshock 3. I'm using "sixaxis controller" from the market, it won't let me update though because it says I haven't purchased it yet even though I bought it about 3 months back right before I had my t bolt replaced with the bionic. Is there any other app that may work better (I know it worked just fine on the t bolt and should on the bionic but I'm not sure if is working correctly)
What are you using to remap the controls?
The new version/s of SixAxis have the ability to set touch profiles. The game has nothing to do with the compatibility.
I payed for and have found the sixaxis driver pretty good so far. some of the older emulators won't bind all buttons properly (droidemu for example wont bind all buttons for me, where Snes9x will......)
I have a logitech 710 here. I've seen people use the micro usb to otg/female usb adapter....
but, again - i worry about binding issues in games.
Mupen64 wont bind analog controls properly. mario runs full tilt or not at all. the right analog won't bind (which i map to the C buttons in PC emulators, for example).
Has anyone else had any luck, or any suggestions?
This is my first Android device. Interesting so far!
Here is a lot of gamepad http://dx.com/s/gamepads.html?page=1 Good price -Great build quality
Ignore the spammer ^
You've come up against the big problem with Android games/controllers, I don't think there's one controller that just works with everything. You end up having to buy multiple controllers or live with on screen controls. I guess it's a profit thing, if there was one standard architecture then sales of controllers would gravitate to the ones that are actually good, leaving loads of others with no sales.
NicotineCanada said:
I payed for and have found the sixaxis driver pretty good so far. some of the older emulators won't bind all buttons properly (droidemu for example wont bind all buttons for me, where Snes9x will......)
I have a logitech 710 here. I've seen people use the micro usb to otg/female usb adapter....
but, again - i worry about binding issues in games.
Mupen64 wont bind analog controls properly. mario runs full tilt or not at all. the right analog won't bind (which i map to the C buttons in PC emulators, for example).
Has anyone else had any luck, or any suggestions?
This is my first Android device. Interesting so far!
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I use my Gametel controller that I bought off of amazon. It lets you use it in a variety of ways. you can either map it to letters or use as a gamepad or even fake it as the xperia play's gamepad. some games don't respond to it properly like bard's tale or GTA
Troute said:
Ignore the spammer ^
You've come up against the big problem with Android games/controllers, I don't think there's one controller that just works with everything. You end up having to buy multiple controllers or live with on screen controls. I guess it's a profit thing, if there was one standard architecture then sales of controllers would gravitate to the ones that are actually good, leaving loads of others with no sales.
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Why is he a spammer? He's linked to a valid resource for getting a controller.
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Why is he a spammer? He's linked to a valid resource for getting a controller.
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Because that's about all he/she ever does, and always the same site = spammer.
Yes.
I would call that a spammer.
So essentially, it goes down to the apps you are going to use it with.
What about emulation ?
Is there a gamepad out there that works on pretty much all platform emulators ?
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Quick question: can i use any cable based controller? Or is it just the ps3 one?
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Because that's about all he/she ever does, and always the same site = spammer.
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Fair enough then, didn't realize he did nothing but post links to dx lol
I would love to try the SteelSeries Free Mobile Wireless Controller, looks promising, a bit expensive though.
Anyone has tested it yet ?
We had a thread for this going.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831107
Thinking about getting a Gamepad for my Nexus 10. Which is the best solution? Sixasis seems to be well known but do I need to setup every single game to work with this or are most games with Gamepad support working out of the box?
Another question is the root requirement. Since at the time only main user get root I assume the gamepad then are useless for all user except main user?
Maybe another gamepad solution is the better choice?
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I love my nyko playpad. Works perfectly with the vast majority of games I've tried it with ( Dead Trigger, GTA 3, N64/SNES emulators, Need For Speed, Shadowgun, etc...). No root required either!
Just DON'T install or use their Playpad software. It made it so my playpad would no longer pair and I couldn't fix the problem until I did a factory reset. A quick Google search revealed that many Nexus 10 owners had the same problem.
SteelSeries is the nicest looking controller I've seen, Googling 'SteelSeries nexus 10' brought up an article about it and the reviews seem great. Kind of expensive though.
If you don't wanna spend any money you can download Bluetooth controller from the market and use a another android device as a controller assuming u own 1 of course
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Got a PS3 controller laying around? Use the Sixaxis app in the market to pair it with your tablet. I've used a few different gamepads (bluetooth and OTG) and this is my favorite by far.
I would also like to know some more input on this. I have the sixaxis app and a ps3 controller that I used on my N7 when I had it. I will admit getting it to work with games like GTA3 or any other app that uses a touch input seems to be kind of a pain in the ass. I am looking for an easier solution one that doesn't require me to root or mess around with any on screen mappings or configurations. It seems like the gamepads from gamestop have software that sort of does that for you.
Does anybody know how well these work? I am american and I'm lazy as hell. If I can buy a solution for only 30 bucks and have it work for games like Shadowgun, GTA3, SNES etc without having to put too much effort beyond saying button 1 = jump etc then I would prefer that.
I would like to hear peoples opinions on this though. The reviews on gamestops website don't really offer to much and I just want a good solid, reliable easy to use controller that doesnt require me to root but if someone can point me out to a good easy to understand site to manipulate the ps3 controller and mappings I may take that into consideration. Otherwise any other reviews on controllers would be helpful as well.
edit* I also would like to not use a usb OTG cable. I'm looking strictly for bluetooth.
goncalorob said:
I would also like to know some more input on this. I have the sixaxis app and a ps3 controller that I used on my N7 when I had it. I will admit getting it to work with games like GTA3 or any other app that uses a touch input seems to be kind of a pain in the ass. I am looking for an easier solution one that doesn't require me to root or mess around with any on screen mappings or configurations. It seems like the gamepads from gamestop have software that sort of does that for you.
Does anybody know how well these work? I am american and I'm lazy as hell. If I can buy a solution for only 30 bucks and have it work for games like Shadowgun, GTA3, SNES etc without having to put too much effort beyond saying button 1 = jump etc then I would prefer that.
I would like to hear peoples opinions on this though. The reviews on gamestops website don't really offer to much and I just want a good solid, reliable easy to use controller that doesnt require me to root but if someone can point me out to a good easy to understand site to manipulate the ps3 controller and mappings I may take that into consideration. Otherwise any other reviews on controllers would be helpful as well.
edit* I also would like to not use a usb OTG cable. I'm looking strictly for bluetooth.
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Read my post about the Nyko Playpad above. Any game with gamepad support (including the ones I listed) will work swimmingly with little to no effort.
Thanks for all the tips. Tried BT controller from play store. Did work good with emus but did not get any function in dead trigger.
Is gamepad just supposed to work in dead trigger because I didn't found any settings for configuring the gamepad.
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I picked up the samurai controller from GameStop and it worked flawlessly with all the games. Synced right up to the n10 like a boss. Good build quality and has the option to act like a gamepad or a keyboard. Some games require one or the other.
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Probably not your ideal solution, but I use a wired Xbox 360 controller along with USB/BT Joystick Center 6 and, if playing a touch-only game, I use Joy2Touch Server from the same developer and set up a profile. Yes, you do need to set it up with every different touch-only game. With emus, you only need to set up your desired button layout once.
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Probably not your ideal solution, but I use a wired Xbox 360 controller along with USB/BT Joystick Center 6 and, if playing a touch-only game, I use Joy2Touch Server from the same developer and set up a profile. Yes, you do need to set it up with every different touch-only game. With emus, you only need to set up your desired button layout once.
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I'm interested in this setup for playing Heroes of Order and Chaos. It uses a virtual d-pad on the screen. Could I make the gamepad work with it?
+1 for the PS3 controller + Sixaxis.
It will work without any setup (other than starting the Sixaxis app) for games that have native gamepad support. Games like these include GTA III/Vice City, Shadowgun, Virtua Tennis, Sonic CD, Riptide GP, etc.
For games that don't support the gamepad you have the option of creating a touch profile. It truly is very easy.
And for those that are super lazy, the website http://www.sixaxisofpower.com/ is a community with user submitted touch profiles for various games.
irishtexmex said:
+1 for the PS3 controller + Sixaxis.
It will work without any setup (other than starting the Sixaxis app) for games that have native gamepad support. Games like these include GTA III/Vice City, Shadowgun, Virtua Tennis, Sonic CD, Riptide GP, etc.
For games that don't support the gamepad you have the option of creating a touch profile. It truly is very easy.
And for those that are super lazy, the website http://www.sixaxisofpower.com/ is a community with user submitted touch profiles for various games.
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Sounds like the solution I am looking for. I need to buy the controller then
But one question which is quite crucial. Is it only main user with root who can use it or if it's installed in system maybe the needed files will be accessible by all users?
Oh one more.... The newer Dualshock are they Sixasis compatible or is it just the old ps3 controllers that are usable?
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chilimac02 said:
I'm interested in this setup for playing Heroes of Order and Chaos. It uses a virtual d-pad on the screen. Could I make the gamepad work with it?
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Yep, it's pretty easy to set it up for a game that uses a virtual D-Pad/buttons.
Hey guys, do you need a special cable to first connect the PS3 controller to the phone\tablet or will it work just by pairing them up over Bluetooth?
Cheers,
M
You will need a mini usb cable the first time to pair it. After that it will pair automatically.
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You will need a mini usb cable the first time to pair it. After that it will pair automatically.
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Great! I think I had one of those that I use to charge the PS3 controller using the PS3 but I wonder will it fit into the port on the Nexus 10??
Cheers,
M
mark.m.moran said:
Great! I think I had one of those that I use to charge the PS3 controller using the PS3 but I wonder will it fit into the port on the Nexus 10??
Cheers,
M
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PS3 controller has a mini USB port, but the Nexus 10 uses micro USB (there's a difference; micro is a bit smaller) :/ But if anything, a USB OTG cable is like $1 or so, just might take a while to get to you depending on where you order it from online, and retail stores would probably price it at $10 or something lol
Yes,
The mini USB connects to the controller, the other end of the cable will be a standard usb connector. You can connect it to the nexus 10 with an OTG adapter.
If you don't have the OTG connector, you can pair it through your pc using the sixaxis pair tool:
http://www.dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/tool.html
You forgot to say u need root to use sixaxis
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