I've seen threads where people said that their i9000 they have ~200 MB of free available RAM. That's really surprising. Can this be caused by a kernel?
I have around 100 MB of free RAM at most times, running CM10, stock kernel.
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RAM Management is being handled by Android OS. We dont have to do anything about it. See article on AndroidCentral:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
So why it the free RAM memory differs so much? My i9000 has around 100MB of free RAM and other guy's from the forums has like 200MB of free RAM at any time.
It may have something to do with the quantity of apps running in every phone.
Every phone has different apps installed.
I, particularly, do not use synching, wallpapers (live or static), weather apps, music effects, google maps, etc.
I either disabled these apps or froze them to make sure they won't run.
Most of these apps run automatically at phone boot-up, thereby consuming RAM.
You can check in Settings/Apps/Running what applications are mostly running on your phone, then you can try to disable them if you think you don't need them.
How do you freeze the apps and prevent them from starting?
In settings/apps/all apps, select the app you want to disable then disable it. If you have Titanium Backup, you can use it to freeze your chosen apps.
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You can use App Quanrantine to freeze the undesired apps. I use it for almost 1 year and it works.
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You can use App Quanrantine to freeze the undesired apps. I use it for almost 1 year and it works.
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I'll try that one, thanks!
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You can increase your ram by installing devil kernel. Then installing devil kennel manager from play store
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Titanium backup or app quarantine are useful to freeze unused apps, but if you use an app you can't freeze it (or you must unfreeze it)
For used apps, you can use Autostarts to disable unwanted run of apps on phone startup, or after other events trigger in the background.
depend on the rom that you are using
Try another kernel with bigmem.
svolacius I've been red that if you have 40 20mb free memory then it is very good for you because phone is using memory properly
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What are all these appear running in bkgrnd. Maps market ect. Gps isn't on. Havnt used maps. Why when I go to atk. Do I have like 10 apps. Running.?
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Just part of android. Also, task killers won't help, unless you set them to auto kill ever 5 seconds, in which case your battery life will suffer. My opinion, get rid of task killer. Then you won't see how many things are running in the background. If the system needs more memory, it will kill thebackground stuff untilit has what it needs.
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Hello,
after removing alot of bloatware from the phone (LG stuff and killing some more apps & widgets)
i get roughly 163M free (after whatsapp, email, adv. task killer )
i am running on stock ROM
what are the numbers that you are getting?
i saw several people with 230M and 200 as well.
how can i get more available memory besides freeze and un-install?
It really doesn't matter, if you need more than you have free, Android will free some up for you.
yeh but i want to understand how it actually works and to remove all the rest of the bloatware from the phone.
since i still think that there are alot of things that arent required for standard operation.
Linux based OS like Android usually keep a lot of apps in memory, and if necessary free the memory for other apps, so it 's not the real problem I think.
The real issue is that some apps runs in background and use radio connection to connect to servers, to verify updates etc, and that drains battery and take CPU time. For example if you have stock firmware, and have some apps installed by your phone provider, or so.
Alternative MODS are free from those bloatwares, and even in stock ROMS if you are rooted you can use Root App Remover to uninstall stock apps that are not necessary.
You can for example try some apps like GO Launcher or Titanium Back UP to freeze the desired apps and prevent them to run in background. Make some tests o see if there is a real difference, I think most of the time it's mainly a psychological issue ;-)
Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation i have removed most of the stock apps and installed adv task manager to kill the rest but still how come people here on the forums got 230mb memory when i can only reach 180-160?
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Because they use other hacks aswell ( disabling the OTA feature, using some ram reserved for the GPU as memory, etc)
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Can you recommend some apps or give some links?
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Can you recommend some apps or give some links?
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here you are
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989283&highlight=apk+remove
but be careful with LG Home or LG Launcher... if you don't have a replacement launcher, you will screw up your rom...
Thanks a lot i was looking for that quite hard but i probably missed it
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It really doesn't matter, if you need more than you have free, Android will free some up for you.
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I've noticed this during general use on my phone. Normally when using Twitter or Facebook.
Quite often I will go to use the app and find i've been logged out. I'm guessing the OS killed the app to free up memory for something else.
What I get annoyed with is some apps that Autostart on Bootup when there's no obvious reason why they would need to. (BBC iPlayer etc) This Just takes up memory when it doesn't need to
I've never been logged out of Twitter and/or Facebook... closing the app wouldn't log you out anyway, that's something else altogether.
I got the same issue with skype although its not supposed to logout it does even though he runs in the background
Strange right ?
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Just wanted to ask if this phone has a task killer built in or do I have to download one from market? I came from the gs2 where when u pressed the home button it gave u an option to kill certain tasks while leaving others open. All info is greatly appreciated thanks.*** Also on a side note is anyone using setcpu to lower the cpu or is it best to run it stock?
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Just wanted to ask if this phone has a task killer built in or do I have to download one from market? I came from the gs2 where when u pressed the home button it gave u an option to kill certain tasks while leaving others open. All info is greatly appreciated thanks.*** Also on a side note is anyone using setcpu to lower the cpu or is it best to run it stock?
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If you double tap home it will bring up your recent apps. You can swipe them away, but task managers are not really needed.
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Thanks a lot lol I would've never guessed that. Appreciate the help .
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Just wanted to ask if this phone has a task killer built in or do I have to download one from market? I came from the gs2 where when u pressed the home button it gave u an option to kill certain tasks while leaving others open. All info is greatly appreciated thanks.*** Also on a side note is anyone using setcpu to lower the cpu or is it best to run it stock?
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I restored the built in task killer from titanium backup from the evo lte
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As usual, the best recommendation for task killers is: DO NOT use one.
Task killers almost always cause more battery usage and slower performance, just because they force your phone to reload an app every single time you open it. Some people seem to believe that just because an app is in RAM, it's using battery, and that's outright false. It's suspended in RAM, doing absolutely nothing, waiting for you to use it again.
The only apps that actually run in the background are apps that have services (Facebook, Spotify, etc), apps that do things in the background. Killing these tasks isn't even a good idea, as Android will attempt to restart killed services.
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Just wanted to ask if this phone has a task killer built in or do I have to download one from market?
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Here is a blog post written by a member of the Android team explaining how multi-tasking works on Android and why task killers actually hurt performance and battery life. Don't use them. They're counter productive.
There is an app in the play store called Grennify. It's kinda like a task killer. The short of it is that you select apps to be Greenfied. The selected apps don't run in the background while your phone is in sleep mode. I've been using this app since I had my S3 and IMO, is a must have app for root users.
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I am using Xperia SP (Indian version) C5302 Build No. 12.0.A.1.1211 Didnt update so far.
My problem is that the multitask feature is kinda like the old iPhones. When i switch apps, the previous app is terminated or loads from beginning.
For example.
I was surfing facebook from Chrome browser. I received a text. I checked my txt, replied, and when i switched back to Chrome browser the webpage started loading afresh. Is ONE webpage of Facebook too much for the "last year flagship defeater"???
While playing games,like Little Empire (online game) i was referring to online guide. So i switched to Chrome browser to see the instructions on how to defeat a boss stage. When i switched back to Little Empire the app booted from beginning. I mean wtf!! How am i supposed to refer to guides if the moment i minimize the game it switches off.
The phone has 1 GB RAM. What is the point of multitasking when apps dont really multitask. The moment u minimise its gone.
Now this doesnt happen all the time.
When i play Need For Speed Most Wanted, a game which is pretty demanding, it never closes. Even after i switch back to this game after texting , it resumes from pause menu.
Is there a way to make my phone multitask?
Some games don't work well with multitask, such as that random game you posted. Chrome is known to be ram intensive, and probably the only browser that causes launcher redraw. Use firefox instead.
If you don't like your phone, get something else...
I'm sorry bro but there's no way. The. Fact is that not our phone but android doesn't do full multitasking. Android keeps a program in memory only if the program demands it to. But even then it closes the program if another resource hogging program is loaded.
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I was just wondering if converting a app into a System App might help. (And restart the phone)
For a game it is not very useful because it will be loaded at boot but for a Launcher it might help
that a third party launcher is less often redrawn. I think Android will kill non system apps first so the Launcher might stay in your ram longer.
Please correct me if I'm completely mistaken
In the free RAM 200M can not be used because the Sony locked
So always because of insufficient RAM to kill other processes
The pre allocated ram is used by debug file system, logger, camera pmem etc you can't change it unless you have custom kernel
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Is there a way to have more RAM ? As in stop or disale certain background apps as we do in Windows on Pc. Like a parmanent thing..
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mikael_schiffer said:
Is there a way to have more RAM ? As in stop or disale certain background apps as we do in Windows on Pc. Like a parmanent thing..
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Use "Greenify" for stop selected user app to running in background (facebook, maps...) and "Autokiller Memory Optimizer" to change minfree value (lmk). So instead to kill apps when your RAM goes under 200Mo, you can change the value to 50Mo. It's a great tool !
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So what is the total and the free ram? By default, how much free ram is available?
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Use "Greenify" for stop selected user app to running in background (facebook, maps...) and "Autokiller Memory Optimizer" to change minfree value (lmk). So instead to kill apps when your RAM goes under 200Mo, you can change the value to 50Mo. It's a great tool !
ROOT needed for these 2 apps
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Use "Moderate" or "System Default".
In fact "System Default" is stock LMK of Android, not stock LMK of your phone.
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Use "Moderate" or "System Default".
In fact "System Default" is stock LMK of Android, not stock LMK of your phone.
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Gonna try it and report later. Thanks
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Gonna try it and report later. Thanks
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Tried it but didn't worked. It delays a little the closing but the app closing comes anyway.
Maybe 1 GB isn't really enough. Sad that ZR won't be sold in SG,
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Maybe 1 GB isn't really enough. Sad that ZR won't be sold in SG,
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OFF TOPIC: Are you from Singapore?
ON TOPIC: Maybe you can try using a Linux swap partition. I never got one to work, so I dunno if it helps. But you can always try
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OFF TOPIC: Are you from Singapore?
ON TOPIC: Maybe you can try using a Linux swap partition. I never got one to work, so I dunno if it helps. But you can always try
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X.x isn't it obvious there is Singapore word under my forum id?
Once I had the same problem with Galaxy S3 too, but I was rooted it installed busybox PRO and RAM Manager PRO, and in RAM manager I choosed hard multtiasking, and voila no more problems with redraws, and I even tried to keep opened NFS Most Wanted, and to open some more apps, and I found everything what I left,so 1GB isn't too little, it's Android memory management problem I think.
And also delete bloatware,because some sh*t is memory hungry and can cause this problem too
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Once I had the same problem with Galaxy S3 too, but I was rooted it installed busybox PRO and RAM Manager PRO, and in RAM manager I choosed hard multtiasking, and voila no more problems with redraws, and I even tried to keep opened NFS Most Wanted, and to open some more apps, and I found everything what I left,so 1GB isn't too little, it's Android memory management problem I think.
And also delete bloatware,because some sh*t is memory hungry and can cause this problem too
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Man, have u tried enabling Swap? If you have, is there any significant improvement in performance? There's a caution in the software that Swap will make my SD card degrade. I'm so confused with this
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Man, have u tried enabling Swap? If you have, is there any significant improvement in performance? There's a caution in the software that Swap will make my SD card degrade. I'm so confused with this
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I don't have SD card so I don't know
Is there any way thru system/app to edit the s6 to stop closing apps automatically? When i play a game and go to check my notifications even for a few seconds the phone automatically closes the app and it restart. Anyone knows how to stop that from happening??
This is the problem with the S6 memory management system. It's extremely aggressive and tends to close apps when they go into the background. There is a thread dedicated to trying to improve memory management on this thing, but things look pretty bleak.
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This is the problem with the S6 memory management system. It's extremely aggressive and tends to close apps when they go into the background. There is a thread dedicated to trying to improve memory management on this thing, but things look pretty bleak.
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Do you know the link to that thread?
Sure, here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3128229
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