Hi all, today I have encountered an S-Pen issue with my modded Palm touchstone wireless charger with my Note 2. The issue seems to come when the palm unit is placed a little bit higher on the phone near the NFC antenna, but problem resolves when I move the charging unit away...
Looking at the Qi receiver chargers from the web, the coil seems to be on the top of the unit, hence it is near the NFC antenna. Question is, has anyone experienced problem with S-Pen ? I would love to hear your view on this as I am thinking of getting the Qi to replace my modded Palm charger.
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owl74 said:
Hi all, today I have encountered an S-Pen issue with my modded Palm touchstone wireless charger with my Note 2. The issue seems to come when the palm unit is placed a little bit higher on the phone near the NFC antenna, but problem resolves when I move the charging unit away...
Looking at the Qi receiver chargers from the web, the coil seems to be on the top of the unit, hence it is near the NFC antenna. Question is, has anyone experienced problem with S-Pen ? I would love to hear your view on this as I am thinking of getting the Qi to replace my modded Palm charger.
Thanks
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Magnets.
victorlht88 said:
i am using the qi receiver without any issues.
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Also it looks thick. Does it make a bulge on the back cover.
i'm using it without any problem.
If you're having any issues it's probably the electromagnetic radiation from the charging unit interfering with how the phone detects the s-pen, I doubt there's a way to fix it.
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sucks that verizon took this feature out.
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Hello to all fellow i9305 owners
Can anyone out there confirm that any of the existing wireless charging mods on I9305 lte actually works?
The reason for my asking is that the my usb charging socket started to show signs of wear and tear . Basically my phones socket became very sensitive to any standard micro usb charging cable. Sometimes it works but 50% of times it doesnt. (I have tried four different cables)
The only cable that works 100% is the MHL one (HDMI-out with USB-charge) which is slightly longer and goes in deeper into the socket (making better connection). Since I've realized the issue was with the mechanical failure of the usb port I decided to explore the wireless charging methods.
There is a big thread about it (which is locked due to people misbehaving) so please do not post links to mods (I've read them all).
I even took the plunge and I have bought all the gear for palm mod (that didnt work) and the gear for QI mod (that did not work either).
Im beginning to think that either my fone is faulty (but no way of proving it since there is no official Samsung wireless charging yet) or perhaps there is something I need to do with software (custom ROM?).I am on latest rooted stock rom by Lyriquid, BTW
Any help is appreciated.
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Hello to all fellow i9305 owners
Can anyone out there confirm that any of the existing wireless charging mods on I9305 lte actually works?
The reason for my asking is that the my usb charging socket started to show signs of wear and tear . Basically my phones socket became very sensitive to any standard micro usb charging cable. Sometimes it works but 50% of times it doesnt. (I have tried four different cables)
The only cable that works 100% is the MHL one (HDMI-out with USB-charge) which is slightly longer and goes in deeper into the socket (making better connection). Since I've realized the issue was with the mechanical failure of the usb port I decided to explore the wireless charging methods.
There is a big thread about it (which is locked due to people misbehaving) so please do not post links to mods (I've read them all).
I even took the plunge and I have bought all the gear for palm mod (that didnt work) and the gear for QI mod (that did not work either).
Im beginning to think that either my fone is faulty (but no way of proving it since there is no official Samsung wireless charging yet) or perhaps there is something I need to do with software (custom ROM?).I am on latest rooted stock rom by Lyriquid, BTW
Any help is appreciated.
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You do not need any mods you buy the wireless charging back cover and matt for a few £ on eBay or amazon
realionaire said:
You do not need any mods you buy the wireless charging back cover and matt for a few £ on eBay or amazon
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Thanks for the reply
Unfortunately I have tried that (perhaps I shouldnt have used the word 'mod')
Have you actually got a working wireless charging 'thingy' on GT-I9305?
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Thanks for the reply
Unfortunately I have tried that (perhaps I shouldnt have used the word 'mod')
Have you actually got a working wireless charging 'thingy' on GT-I9305?
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Yes: My GT-I9305 is enhanced using the charging coil, etc., out of a Palm Pixi Touchstone back cover with a Palm Touchstone puck. I used copper tape and resoldered the contact points on the wireless charging coil so that they align with the contacts in the phone. The coil is stuck inside the unmodified original back cover using the white sticky cover from inside the Pixi, and some white duct tape to cover the copper tape extensions out to the contacts. I have reused the metal disks with the sticky coil cover to locate the back on the charging puck.
It charges at about 230 mA through my TPU back cover, slower than normal, but perfectly adequate.
The Touchstone puck is fussy about cables and USB PSUs.
Ian
ienichols said:
Yes: My GT-I9305 is enhanced using the charging coil, etc., out of a Palm Pixi Touchstone back cover with a Palm Touchstone puck. I used copper tape and resoldered the contact points on the wireless charging coil so that they align with the contacts in the phone. The coil is stuck inside the unmodified original back cover using the white sticky cover from inside the Pixi, and some white duct tape to cover the copper tape extensions out to the contacts. I have reused the metal disks with the sticky coil cover to locate the back on the charging puck.
It charges at about 230 mA through my TPU back cover, slower than normal, but perfectly adequate.
The Touchstone puck is fussy about cables and USB PSUs.
Ian
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Well, Thank you very much
Your post was very helpful and informative, especially the bit about the 'fussy puck'.
I will try that setup again but with different USB cables and chargers perhaps.
Im guessing there isnt any led confirming that the puck is on ?
Thanks again (thanks button pressed too)
Hi guys,
I've used the palm wireless charger with one of those stickers that you attach to the phone on top of battery. It was working perfect but you have to put the phone with this sticker exactly on the middle of the charger otherwise won't work. If you have a case on the phone won't work either. It takes to much time until it charges the battery (I've had a 4500ma ). You can check if the wireless pad works with a multimeter. Put the sticker on it and check if it gets any electricity. :thumbup:
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Yes, now I know I need a sticker. Also as I realised I needed the sticker I thougjt I might put magnets as well too.
Then I tried this all and it was wouldn't work with my flip cover so I've attached the palm sticker to the bak of my flip-over case and put the original backing away.
Now its all brilliant . I have my phone in my case and charging wirelessly with no issues.
Those usb sockets arent really made to last, arent they
Thanks everyone who helped.
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if you want a "pre-manufactured" wireless charging solution, you can also go on ebay and buy the Qi wireless receiver pad. it fits underneath the battery door as well and NFC still works. The only thing I don't like about it is that it causes a small "dome" on the battery cover so if you use a case, the more "sturdy" ones like the otterbox or the ballistic or anything that will hold its shape to overcome the slight bump.
apart from that if you're handy w/ modding and such, the palm touchstone mod is also perfect since it's insanely cheaper than anything that is offered out there.
QI wireless charger
wolek76 said:
Hello to all fellow i9305 owners
Can anyone out there confirm that any of the existing wireless charging mods on I9305 lte actually works?
The reason for my asking is that the my usb charging socket started to show signs of wear and tear . Basically my phones socket became very sensitive to any standard micro usb charging cable. Sometimes it works but 50% of times it doesnt. (I have tried four different cables)
The only cable that works 100% is the MHL one (HDMI-out with USB-charge) which is slightly longer and goes in deeper into the socket (making better connection). Since I've realized the issue was with the mechanical failure of the usb port I decided to explore the wireless charging methods.
There is a big thread about it (which is locked due to people misbehaving) so please do not post links to mods (I've read them all).
I even took the plunge and I have bought all the gear for palm mod (that didnt work) and the gear for QI mod (that did not work either).
Im beginning to think that either my fone is faulty (but no way of proving it since there is no official Samsung wireless charging yet) or perhaps there is something I need to do with software (custom ROM?).I am on latest rooted stock rom by Lyriquid, BTW
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
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Are you still long for wireless charger?
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Hey guys, I am wondering if anyone has attempted to use Qi wireless with the G Flex. I had the Palm touchstone for my GS3 and fell in love with it. With the Flex I am figuring it is a bit more complicated as there is not simply a dedicated hookup on the back of the device that made the Palm mod possible on the S3, as well as most Qi enabling devices out there connect into the microusb port, which may not be as simple as it could be given the curved back and oddity that is the microusb 3.0 standard connector.
So has anyone given it a shot and have some recommendations?
I didn't feel the need to since the battery last me all day on one charge even with somewhat heavy use.
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I'm running this on a Qi wireless charger now. Works quite well except you can't get enough juice out of the Qi receivers on the market. They only go up to 750 mA which means it takes a long time to charge. But I like the convenience.
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skyfox99 said:
I'm running this on a Qi wireless charger now. Works quite well except you can't get enough juice out of the Qi receivers on the market. They only go up to 750 mA which means it takes a long time to charge. But I like the convenience.
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Do you need a special case for wireless charging? I thought it didn't support the Qi wireless charger. Is it a new feature in 4.4.2?
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Do you need a special case for wireless charging? I thought it didn't support the Qi wireless charger. Is it a new feature in 4.4.2?
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Good question. Qi wireless charging is a hardware limited option. So you have to add a Qi wireless receiver. You can find numerous universal Qi micro usb "A" on Amazon or eBay. The receiver plugs right into the charging port you have and the receiver is either secured to the back of the phone (it's a really thin, like a thick piece of paper almost). Since there is no removable cover this is the only option. Now if you don't have a case or have a slim one, it probably wouldn't look good. I have mine tucked under a Trident case (in between the phone the case), the Aegis I believe. So you don't even notice it.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Good question. Qi wireless charging is a hardware limited option. So you have to add a Qi wireless receiver. You can find numerous universal Qi micro usb "A" on Amazon or eBay. The receiver plugs right into the charging port you have and the receiver is either secured to the back of the phone (it's a really thin, like a thick piece of paper almost). Since there is no removable cover this is the only option. Now if you don't have a case or have a slim one, it probably wouldn't look good. I have mine tucked under a Trident case (in between the phone the case), the Aegis I believe. So you don't even notice it.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Thanks for the help!!
never charge ?
sweets55 said:
I didn't feel the need to since the battery last me all day on one charge even with somewhat heavy use.
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Ohhhhh so you never have to charge yours ? cause i have to charge mine once a day, but id still like to just plop it on a pad
glitch242 said:
Ohhhhh so you never have to charge yours ? cause i have to charge mine once a day, but id still like to just plop it on a pad
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Man this is a old post. lol I think I charged the Flex like I do my Note 4. I'll put it on the wireless charger when I sleep and maybe when I take a shower or eating. With the Note 4 it has quick charge so I use the cable if I need some quick juice.
Any word when the Flex 2 is coming out?
Anyone found qi charging pad that will work with the s5 active and maintain the ip67 rating?
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Anyone found qi charging pad that will work with the s5 active and maintain the ip67 rating?
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Sorry buddy. Don't think there'll be one. I looked at the back and there doesn't seem to be any contacts for the wireless cover to connect to. I might be wrong (might have a different method of charging), but don't hold your breath
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Sorry buddy. Don't think there'll be one. I looked at the back and there doesn't seem to be any contacts for the wireless cover to connect to. I might be wrong (might have a different method of charging), but don't hold your breath
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yeah that's what i'm finding out... how half-assed is it of samsung to not include qi charging in a phone that is supposed to be water-resistant. you'd think they would have made the power door flap burlier and then included qi charging, knowing that hardly anyone would use the power door flap if they had the option for wireless charging.
I found a kit in ebay that has the receiver and a charging pad. I posted a problem about it in another thread, but now, I am finding that it works well with the charger that came with the receiver. It still allows the back to seal properly, and it charges though my TPE case. I don't know how well it would work through a thicker case. The charger is black and rectangular and slightly bigger than the phone. I bought two round chargers, but they don't work that well. The phone has to be positioned perfectly on the round ones. I'll try to post a link later for the kit I bought.
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I found a kit in ebay that has the receiver and a charging pad. I posted a problem about it in another thread, but now, I am finding that it works well with the charger that came with the receiver. It still allows the back to seal properly, and it charges though my TPE case. I don't know how well it would work through a thicker case. The charger is black and rectangular and slightly bigger than the phone. I bought two round chargers, but they don't work that well. The phone has to be positioned perfectly on the round ones. I'll try to post a link later for the kit I bought.
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Your sig says you have a regular s5...not an s5 active.
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It would be nice if they had a Q&A and general thread for the Active.
Not sure if it will be any good but I have ordered on to see
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Type-C-...986680?hash=item4d44193db8:g:g2UAAOSwt7pXNIHp
There only seems to be one type ATM
and it supposedly charges at DC 5V/1000mA (depending obviously on the transmitting charger)
It's available from Amazon as well but they all link back to China
Early days, here's hoping I don't blow up my 5X
Yes it blocks the USB port but I always SMB stuff from my nas box so that's not a problem.
You're lucky if you ever get even 500mA out of it. Every Chinese Qi pad vendor overstates the power on their product. Still, nice to have the option. Let us know how it goes
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Iiinteresting, ordered one of those through Amazon. Even if it's only 500mA it'll be nice to have, I just hope it doesn't mess with NFC stuff. Looks like it shouldn't given that the antenna for that is near the camera according to the manual.
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You're lucky if you ever get even 500mA out of it. Every Chinese Qi pad vendor overstates the power on their product. Still, nice to have the option. Let us know how it goes
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The receiver coil looks bigger than the ones I've seen before so maybe 1 amp is a possibility, i'll let report when it eventually gets here.
Quick review
Got the pad now and here is my initial review
Clearly the photo on the advert is a bit of a lie as the coil is about half the size as you can see in the photo below.
The pad is situated to far too the top on the Nexus 5X and sticks out where the fingerprint reader is. This can be easily fixed by cutting a bit off the top, as the coil does not come right to the edge this can be done without ruining the receiver.
THe bit that plugs into the USB socket sticks out which is a bit annoying but not the end of the world.
On my Zens dual Qi charger it took just less than 4 hours to charge from 36% to full so it's not super fast but not that bad over night. The phone indicated slow charging and was AC charging by the battery usage page.
It seems to have no problem staying connected as long as you are aware where the coil is on the pad (towards the top) and has no problem charging through my case
It does not appear to interfere with the radio antenna at all so thats ok.
Also it's super slim so should not interfere with most cases
So in conclusion its fine for me as I rarely need to charge the phone except for overnight, and I have not been using the faster charger anyway.
In case anyone is wondering the case is a Nillkin Matte Super Shield Hard Shell Case which is super nice though the black was a mistake
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Got the pad now and here is my initial review
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Nice, thanks for the update. I'm still waiting on mine, it'll be nice to have wireless charging again.
edit: I did get mine today... it's a bit flaky at best, currently i'm blaming the qi charger, i've got a different one on the way.
Good to know it fits under a Nillkin case, as that's what I have for my Nexus 6P. I ordered a receiver on the 25th, hope I get it soon.
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edit: I did get mine today... it's a bit flaky at best, currently i'm blaming the qi charger, i've got a different one on the way.
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The charging on mine seems rock solid but the zens dual does have a pretty big target area to put the coil in.
See the screenshot below the charge looks pretty rock solid
bexwhitt said:
The charging on mine seems rock solid but the zens dual does have a pretty big target area to put the coil in.
See the screenshot below the charge looks pretty rock solid
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While fiddling with it the qi pad I have it only really works when the thing is outside my case in one exact spot. So... given that it worked fine for someone else I went hunting on Amazon and found a better looking unit.
We'll see Saturday when it gets here if I chose the right one.
Woot, got a full charge overnight with the new qi pad so that old pad is basically crap.
How thick is the pad? I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove as many unnecessary part from it and try to fit it under the back cover of the phone. And also solder it directly to the charging board so that the USB would be still usable
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How thick is the pad? I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove as many unnecessary part from it and try to fit it under the back cover of the phone. And also solder it directly to the charging board so that the USB would be still usable
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it's not very thick at all and any generic Qi receiver would probably do as a few people already have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WimH8g-H2lE
There is padding over the battery on the back case you can remove if it's too thick
Has anyone else been having problems with theirs?
For a couple days now it's charged to full and then the next morning it'll be less than 100%. Yesterday it was at 89%, today it was at 93%. I did verify it was at 100% yesterday before I went to bed.
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Has anyone else been having problems with theirs?
For a couple days now it's charged to full and then the next morning it'll be less than 100%. Yesterday it was at 89%, today it was at 93%. I did verify it was at 100% yesterday before I went to bed.
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I don't have one of these, but I might have a possible explanation. I used to use a 0.7 amp or 1.0 amp charger for charging the 5X overnight. Seemed to work at first, but then it started showing less than 100% in the morning. What seemed to happen from the battery graph is it would charge to full, then start draining (slowly) and not top up again. So I think the low power just didn't trigger it to start charging again once the battery drained a little.
I put it on a 2 amp charger and it now is 100% in the morning. If your phone acts like mine, it might be due to the lower power from wireless charging.
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I don't have one of these, but I might have a possible explanation. I used to use a 0.7 amp or 1.0 amp charger for charging the 5X overnight. Seemed to work at first, but then it started showing less than 100% in the morning. What seemed to happen from the battery graph is it would charge to full, then start draining (slowly) and not top up again. So I think the low power just didn't trigger it to start charging again once the battery drained a little.
I put it on a 2 amp charger and it now is 100% in the morning. If your phone acts like mine, it might be due to the lower power from wireless charging.
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Yeah.. I was kinda thinking that a little, good to see it confirmed. Not sure how much the pad was getting but the sending unit was only drawing ~1A so that's the issue there...
Oh well, it was a nice experiment, would have been better had it actually worked though. Back to the included charger it is then.
Just a note from years of experience with these Qi chargers:
There's some inherent loss in efficiency. Essentially, your wall charger is working to spin current around in a coil, which then by magnetic induction causes current to spin around another coil (in your phone), that then feeds into the battery. It's indirect, there's no contact, and some phone materials can even impede it (just one reason these stupid metal wannabe-iphones luddites keep demanding are a terrible idea ).
Bottom line is - you need a charger that's over an amp, closer to 2a if possible, to spin some of these Qi chargers up enough that it makes a large enough field to get to the Qi coil in your phone and charge it efficiently. Ones that come with tablets seem to work fine - I have my Nexus 7 charger on my office Qi (which is angled and serves dual duty of holding my phone for easy reading and viewing).
I'm actually more interested personally in an internal Qi option - solder it in, invisible.
True story - I did that with my S3 before I got an S5, and it worked great. Didn't have to bother when I got an S5, since they sold an optional Qi battery door for the S5. ...don't get me started on my hatred of the design philosophy that excludes removable battery doors.
Anyway - I just picked up a 5x, reluctantly ditching many of the features I had on my S5, to try Google Fi service out.
Wireless charging is something that I'm very interested in - I have wireless chargers literally installed (meaning: hidden, routed wires) in my car, office, and house, specifically to avoid that dorm-room spaghetti-everywhere aesthetic. "Wireless... it's not just for convenience anymore."
Hopefully there's a thread with step by step instructions on a good Qi pad and identified soldering points to install internally?
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Just a note from years of experience with these Qi chargers:
There's some inherent loss in efficiency. Essentially, your wall charger is working to spin current around in a coil, which then by magnetic induction causes current to spin around another coil (in your phone), that then feeds into the battery. It's indirect, there's no contact, and some phone materials can even impede it (just one reason these stupid metal wannabe-iphones luddites keep demanding are a terrible idea ).
Bottom line is - you need a charger that's over an amp, closer to 2a if possible, to spin some of these Qi chargers up enough that it makes a large enough field to get to the Qi coil in your phone and charge it efficiently. Ones that come with tablets seem to work fine - I have my Nexus 7 charger on my office Qi (which is angled and serves dual duty of holding my phone for easy reading and viewing).
I'm actually more interested personally in an internal Qi option - solder it in, invisible.
True story - I did that with my S3 before I got an S5, and it worked great. Didn't have to bother when I got an S5, since they sold an optional Qi battery door for the S5. ...don't get me started on my hatred of the design philosophy that excludes removable battery doors.
Anyway - I just picked up a 5x, reluctantly ditching many of the features I had on my S5, to try Google Fi service out.
Wireless charging is something that I'm very interested in - I have wireless chargers literally installed (meaning: hidden, routed wires) in my car, office, and house, specifically to avoid that dorm-room spaghetti-everywhere aesthetic. "Wireless... it's not just for convenience anymore."
Hopefully there's a thread with step by step instructions on a good Qi pad and identified soldering points to install internally?
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Such a thread exists. Someone also offers a service doing the soldering for you. I might be able to find it...
Here is the mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3231461
EDIT: why did you mod your S3 when you could have dropped this in?
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That may exist today, but certainly didn't exist when the S3 was the current flagship phone.
Back in those years, the popular (and nearly 'only', here on XDA) modification was to buy the Palm Pre battery door and charger (non-Qi) and use those parts.
Since Palm had recently gone bust, $20 would get you all the parts you need - including Palm's proprietary charger base, a receiver sticker, even a charger.
And honestly, I have to say the Qi charger gets much hotter than the Palm system, so there might be an argument there for it being technically 'better than' the Qi systems. Qi is simply the standard today.
So now with the news that there are some accessories(chargers and cables) that are not compliant with the USB type C specifications, I wonder if these wireless pads are compliant with the specification?
Has anyone found a stand up wireless charger that works with this phone besides the Razer branded one? I just tried the Seneo Upgraded wireless charger and the pads did not line up properly so it is being returned.
I got the Maxpower WX600, and so far that's the only STAND UP one that's working in my experience (as in without adding anything to adjust the position), guess it is becoz of the 3 Coils design, so I'd bet any other ones with 3 Coils might just do the trick as well~
I tried this Tylt one and it's worked fine so far with a RP2.
I saw a post on Reddit saying the Nokia DT910 works. I used to have one but I lost it so I can't test it. The one problem I foresee is stability, that charger might be a bit small for the Razer. It can be bought for 10-15 dollars on ebay.
A basic belkin works perfectly fine, whilst in a Spigen case as well
Using a Itian A6 charger with no problems in portrait mode...
I found this good https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seamless...PHONE-2-Qi-enabled-Mobile-Phone-/362503699045
Easy to check that charging properly with blueish light. Charging very well in TPU case.
Anyone know the measurement from the bottom of the phone to the center of the coil? That would definitely help to make the magnetic attachment qi chargers work.