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First off-hold your guns!
I know JB as such isn't out yet, and can't be expected to be as stable as ICS... But, still- after watching video reviews of some custom ROMs, one asks themselves, if they should give it a go...
Ok, so I am running stock (LAME!!!, I know ) GB, rooted and couple of launchers make it more interesting, sure... However, after browsing through this lovely and extremely helpful forum, I noticed that there are people who are already enjoying the benefits of running JB ROMs, or very good and matured TW based ICS custom ROMs...
1. So, I know ICS stock kernel has been a bit of a problem, what that just 4.03, or did 4.04 fix that?
2.Kill be for being so easily pleased, but I do find my Note and its current ROM already pretty smooth... I know all the bits that ICS makes it better and even more so JB, but considering all the things ICS brought, is there a point of trying JB, except for experimenting?
3. One thing I am so after, is that bit where from the lock screen you have like 3, or 4 options, one of them being going straight into the camera mode. I don't know if that is only JB, but I could really use it, as the old way (press the menu button, swipe to unlock, then press the camera icon) so many times made me miss the scene I wanted to take a photo of. So, any info on that would be much appreciated.
4.So much hype around GN II, but seeing that so many features are being ported to GN I custom ROMs, I am only after a ROM which will have those new and useful S III and GN II bits sawn onto the old(er) jacket.
5. I am in no rush, so do you think that in 3-4 weeks something more stable JB based will be available(official JB update should be rolling out soon, no)?
Big thanks to all you guys here, not just for answering the questions, but also all the tutorials and topics we noobs can find here... Keep up the good work.
See custom jb roms are stable like cm10 aosp liquidsmooth etc.you will feel smooth quality on it and butter project.
Ics 4.0.4 is very stable and has many mods and a good battery life too.
So lastly its your choice which one to flash.
Hit thanks button pleass
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Answering the title of your thread, there are no TW-based JB roms yet. All the TW-based ROMs are ICS. So if you are looking for smooth and reliable TW-based ROMs I would go for Kingdroid (ICS). If you want Jelly Bean you have ParanoidAndroid, Liquidsmooth, but these are not TW-based.
And answering the 5 questions in the contents of your post:
1. The problem is not with the kernel, the problem is with the chip itself, the *workaround* is using a modified kernel that does not use the MMC_CAP_ERASE command, so to answer your question, no the problem isn't solved and it won't be solved unless Samsung recalls all the units and gives out new ones without the bug. You will have to be careful when upgrading to ICS/JB because you will need to use safe kernels.
2. Jelly bean is definitely smoother than ICS, it is worth upgrading IMO.
3. That is the ICS/JB unlock screen that comes in stock android, and it is also available in most AOSP/AOKP ROMs. It is not available by default in Touchwiz but you can download that lockscreen from the Play Store as a standalone app and replace it.
4. Not all the Note2 features have been ported to the Note1, for instance the multi-window view is not available on any ROM yet as far as I know.
5. I have made the switch because I can't stand the look of Touchwiz, the complete disregard of Google's Holo design is for me a reason enough to switch to AOSP/AOKP, that said even when official JB ROMs start rolling out I probably won't come back to Touchwiz.
I think that you need a stock ICS TW rom, maybe RocketRom or Alliance v2.1 rom. I have tried a couple JB roms, but it feels like you have giant nexus insted of a great note.
If you want stock, pick up a last 4.0.4 xxlrt or ddlr9 or something similar, depends where you live but it's not too important. After that, just flash PhilZ kernel and you are safe, disable all aplications that you dont need, and thats it.
Or if you want a custom rom which is great like stock and cool like custom, choose rocketrom v12 or alliance v2.1
Hope that helps!
Ooooohhh-dann so...
Well, that clears so many things...
I mean, am no Samsung fan boy. It is just that I edit many pdf docs on the go, and other TW apps are very useful as they bring the functionality and the precision of the S Pen... As I said. I even find stock GB smooth, so I believe ICS should feel like heaven for me.
BIG QUESTION = so, since the problem was the chip, not the stock kernel itself, and the only solution is a modification of kernel, surely Google will include the workaround in a new JB update, no?
I haven't updated OTA to ICS, because I was scared of bricking the phone, or something.... Are the updates incremental, or so I need to update to official ICS and then to JB, or will I be able to go straight to JB (official one)?
I think I might go for Kingdroid (ICS), or Sweet ROM... Though, I from reading their respective threads, I get the idea that less people have issues with Sweet ROM....
Thanks again...
Ota update from GB ROM is safe because GB kernel is safe. Or can download stock ICS from Dr Ketan and flash with pc odin. Then flash appropriate Philz kernel (can do it from stock recovery). You will then be on safe stock kernel (only brick bug is disabled) with advanced CWM recovery. Once on Phils u can backups/restores and flash any ROM u like. Just have to do full wipe before flashing new ROMs.
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cmick30 said:
Ooooohhh-dann so...
Well, that clears so many things...
I mean, am no Samsung fan boy. It is just that I edit many pdf docs on the go, and other TW apps are very useful as they bring the functionality and the precision of the S Pen... As I said. I even find stock GB smooth, so I believe ICS should feel like heaven for me.
BIG QUESTION = so, since the problem was the chip, not the stock kernel itself, and the only solution is a modification of kernel, surely Google will include the workaround in a new JB update, no?
I haven't updated OTA to ICS, because I was scared of bricking the phone, or something.... Are the updates incremental, or so I need to update to official ICS and then to JB, or will I be able to go straight to JB (official one)?
I think I might go for Kingdroid (ICS), or Sweet ROM... Though, I from reading their respective threads, I get the idea that less people have issues with Sweet ROM....
Thanks again...
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You could try ics stock rom with non stock kernel, i my self use notecore and hydracore kernel while i am using ics rom.
This will give you another experience..
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Hi,
Whats the fastest ICS rom available on here? Im not interested in extra features, just simply the most lag free, juder free rom
Matt
ICS its also known as lag.... Just try the newest JB xlsa
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Hi,
Is the latest xlsa judder and lag free though?
its good but not very very good.
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but definitely better than ica
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as per your query: Fastest one available is RocketRom v12 based on Samsung TW ROM XXLRT ICS 4.04
I've been looking for the fastest rom mostly in terms of gaming, but also for UI--how long it takes for a window to close, the dialer to come up, etc.
I've tried most of the new jb leaks and a few older ics roms.
The single FASTEST rom I've seen so far is CM10 with the latest hydracore oc kernel and bloat apps stripped away. No, it is not ics, but is faster than any ics rom.
There are some things I don't like about it, mostly with the way it looks, but in terms of pure speed--nothing I've seen so far matches it. It is lightning fast.
The new jb leaks are very nice--they look better than any other roms I've seen, but no way are they as fast as CM10. Not even close.
If you willing to try JB.
Paranoid Android 2.5.0(not 2.5.1) + Hydracore 7.1 kernel +Nova Launcher is blazing fast, I mean like Note2 kind of smooth.
So far only 1 bug I know of, the volume with earphones are quite low(they fixed this in 2.5.1 but induce A LOT of bugs and memory leak came back.
The headphone output is lower than normal but not SUPER low. totally acceptable.
I'm willing try any. The paranoid android and cm10 both say i must flash from a cm9 or aosp rom and not a stock ics due to bricking. Im running the latest xlsa again, is that a aosp rom and im safe to flash?
Matt
gaming performance wont be as good and smooth on AOSP/CM10/Paranoid based ROM compared to Samsung ROM
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gaming performance wont be as good and smooth on AOSP/CM10/Paranoid based ROM compared to Samsung ROM
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That isn't true at least not for me and I've tried both, repeatedly. NFS most wanted and Dark Knight both have visible slowdowns on jb leaks but not on cm10.
Op - just try both and compare.
Right...
Tried to install paranoidandroid in cwm and it came up error 7 or something.
Ive installed the latest 4.0.4 official rom (N7000XXLRU) but couldnt find one that was just for the UK so downloaded a foreign one and chose english as the language. Only thing is it had 6 or 7 apps that i had to uninstall as it was a foreign app. It works lovely though , very smooth and judder free.
Does anybody know where i can find a uk version of the XXLRU rom so it doesnt install these foreign apps?
Matt
Does anybody know where i can find a uk version of the XXLRU rom so it doesnt install these foreign apps?
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root and efs backup first! save on multiple locations, of the phone especially. Especially if you are going to try different csc roms then your phone.
for best result, backup data like pictures (to external sd) and contacts (to gmail),not apps or app data. When rooted(will void warrantee), flash if on stock rom speedmod kernel (you need safe kernel for wiping) with mobile odin. Take out sim/external sd card, and format all in mounts in recovery mode (except efs), ignore error messages, factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache(in advanced)
After this your pc odin install will be fresh and without stuff lingering that could cause all kind of issues. Just lije bot recovering your apps/app data. That could cause issues as well.
all at own risk.
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From what I read from other threads, it appears that the ICS and JB roms are quite stable enough as a daily driver. I have a few questions regarding these Roms. I'm still running the Apex rom which is an i9000 stock based rom on 2.3.6 for the past year or so. It has been working very well for me. I'm kinda inching to running a JB or ICS rom because of some apps wouldn't run on anything less than ICS or JB.
1. My main concern that stopped me from running ICS or JB is the EU bug. What are the chances of one who never had it before to get it?
2. I know Adobe stopped providing flash support for JB, so now because I'll be running a custom rom, will there be flash support on those roms?
3. The state of 4.2.1 appears to still be in beta for most roms, so I would assume 4.1.2 is more stable than the former, but I would like to know how does 4.1.2 compare with 4.0.4 in terms of stability?
4. I've ran CM7.1 before which was an AOSP rom, but I experienced really bad battery problems. I've tried it a few times, and nothing works to solve it, so I always end up going back to the APex Rom. Because the JB and ICS roms are AOSP-based, how would these roms compare with the stock based roms and CM7 in terms of battery life?
I really want to be sure I want to flash JB or ICS. I would like to breathe some new life into my 2.5 year old phone, but just want to make sure I know what I'm getting into first.
Thanks in advance.
likiud said:
From what I read from other threads, it appears that the ICS and JB roms are quite stable enough as a daily driver. I have a few questions regarding these Roms. I'm still running the Apex rom which is an i9000 stock based rom on 2.3.6 for the past year or so. It has been working very well for me. I'm kinda inching to running a JB or ICS rom because of some apps wouldn't run on anything less than ICS or JB.
1. My main concern that stopped me from running ICS or JB is the EU bug. What are the chances of one who never had it before to get it?
2. I know Adobe stopped providing flash support for JB, so now because I'll be running a custom rom, will there be flash support on those roms?
3. The state of 4.2.1 appears to still be in beta for most roms, so I would assume 4.1.2 is more stable than the former, but I would like to know how does 4.1.2 compare with 4.0.4 in terms of stability?
4. I've ran CM7.1 before which was an AOSP rom, but I experienced really bad battery problems. I've tried it a few times, and nothing works to solve it, so I always end up going back to the APex Rom. Because the JB and ICS roms are AOSP-based, how would these roms compare with the stock based roms and CM7 in terms of battery life?
I really want to be sure I want to flash JB or ICS. I would like to breathe some new life into my 2.5 year old phone, but just want to make sure I know what I'm getting into first.
Thanks in advance.
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1. To my knowledge the EU bug is only present on ICS ROMs. I encountered it once and had read enough about it that I didn't hit the reset phone button. I went back into recovery and flashed back to jellybean with no permanent harm.
2. I haven't paid much attention to this so potentially yes and no.
3. 4.2.1 is actually pretty stable but is lacking some features that people already running custom JB ROMs have come to rely on. But yes for a fully functional and stable ROM I would suggest avoiding 4.2.1 for the time being.
4. In my opinion battery life is improved over gingerbread no matter what ROM you're running. Of course battery life is a subjective thing. I've seen screenshots where someone had their battery last 2 days on so and so rom. But that person likely didn't touch the phone the majority of those 2 days.
All in all I would suggest you go with jellybean 4.1.2 as they are very stable and honestly smoother and more responsive than ICS.
A couple things before you flash though. First make a backup of your efs folder. You'll thank me later if you end up needing it. Secondly going from where you are to where you want to end up is a major jump in software versions which includes a partition layout change specifically if you are going to Jellybean. So the first time you flash the ROM the flash will complete very quickly(less than 5 seconds). If you try to boot after that flash you'll get stuck in a boot loop. Don't worry though just reboot back into recovery which should have updated with the first flash. Then just flash the ROM again as well as the gapps and you'll be golden.
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likiud said:
From what I read from other threads, it appears that the ICS and JB roms are quite stable enough as a daily driver. I have a few questions regarding these Roms. I'm still running the Apex rom which is an i9000 stock based rom on 2.3.6 for the past year or so. It has been working very well for me. I'm kinda inching to running a JB or ICS rom because of some apps wouldn't run on anything less than ICS or JB.
1. My main concern that stopped me from running ICS or JB is the EU bug. What are the chances of one who never had it before to get it?
2. I know Adobe stopped providing flash support for JB, so now because I'll be running a custom rom, will there be flash support on those roms?
3. The state of 4.2.1 appears to still be in beta for most roms, so I would assume 4.1.2 is more stable than the former, but I would like to know how does 4.1.2 compare with 4.0.4 in terms of stability?
4. I've ran CM7.1 before which was an AOSP rom, but I experienced really bad battery problems. I've tried it a few times, and nothing works to solve it, so I always end up going back to the APex Rom. Because the JB and ICS roms are AOSP-based, how would these roms compare with the stock based roms and CM7 in terms of battery life?
I really want to be sure I want to flash JB or ICS. I would like to breathe some new life into my 2.5 year old phone, but just want to make sure I know what I'm getting into first.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, flash it still supported. Just not needed by adobe.
Battery problem can come from so many things and usually is user based. We use apps like BetterBatteryStats to narrow it down though.
As for 4.1.2 and 4.2.1. I would highly suggest 4.1.2 for now until 4.2.2 comes out.
agree with BWolf56,
I've running CM10.0 stable release, JB 4.1.2, and have found it to be more stable, smoother, and reliable than stock GB with Corn 7 kernel.
I was also concerned about EU bug.
I couldn't find any evidence than anyone had experienced the EU bug on JB.
Skip ICS and go for it!
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I think I'm sold to JB 4.1.2! Thank you for all the replies.
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Hi everyone,
last week i ordered a Samsung Galaxy S Advance and i'm pretty excited about it. At first, i was very happy the device received the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update. Now, i'm not really sure if i should update. Of course, Jelly Bean runs nice, but i'm so used to Android Gingerbread on mobile phones. To be honest, isn't it a little weird to have a 'Samsung Galaxy SIII Interface' on this device? Not that i'm fond of Touchwiz, but things will 'feel' different when the update arrives.
Again, is it really worth it updating to Jelly Bean when the current version works just fine?
feel free to discuss
Thanks in 'advance' (hehe),
Anthe
I didn't update into russian JB - waiting for official XEO region, but I am going to update whenever XEO shows up.
By that time they should iron out most bugs found in previous releases so it will be clean and smooth just after update - no need custom kernels or any other bug fixes (or at least I hope for it ;p).
Not that I am afraid of Odin - I had branded ROM but I flashed non-branded rooted stock XEO and for now I am good with that.
I had the same doubt, so a few days back i upgraded to JB (XXLQ4) . So far, i'm very pleased, it runs very smoothly (there is a "butter" effect to it that GB didn't have) but i should clearify that i'm running a custom kernel (cocore E2.8). Also, Jelly Bean's UI is a little more polish in its presentation and functionality. There are a few details like when you press the volume rockers, you can tap an icon and adjust individually the volume for calls, notifications and multimedia (in GB stock ROM you couldn't do this). The camera app now has digital zoom built in (4x) and when recording video you can pause and resume without creating another video file. There are lots of little things like this that make it overall better in my opinion.
Gaming performance is the same as in GB, at least for me (GB also was running with custom kernel, mini cocore 1.4).
The only con i could find with JB is the battery performance, as it is a little bit worst than it was with GB. I'm hoping further kernel development will change that.
So my advice is, YES, you should upgrade to JB if you can live with a little less battery life. If you don't like it you can always downgrade.
Piachnp said:
I had the same doubt, so a few days back i upgraded to JB (XXLQ4) . So far, i'm very pleased, it runs very smoothly (there is a "butter" effect to it that GB didn't have) but i should clearify that i'm running a custom kernel (cocore E2.8). Also, Jelly Bean's UI is a little more polish in its presentation and functionality. There are a few details like when you press the volume rockers, you can tap an icon and adjust individually the volume for calls, notifications and multimedia (in GB stock ROM you couldn't do this). The camera app now has digital zoom built in (4x) and when recording video you can pause and resume without creating another video file. There are lots of little things like this that make it overall better in my opinion.
Gaming performance is the same as in GB, at least for me (GB also was running with custom kernel, mini cocore 1.4).
The only con i could find with JB is the battery performance, as it is a little bit worst than it was with GB. I'm hoping further kernel development will change that.
So my advice is, YES, you should upgrade to JB if you can live with a little less battery life. If you don't like it you can always downgrade.
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Can you upgrade if you have a custom kernel installed, or do you need to revert back to stock kernel prior to updating to JB?
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Can you upgrade if you have a custom kernel installed, or do you need to revert back to stock kernel prior to updating to JB?
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You can update it if you have custom kernel. But with Odin only. Not with OTA or KIES.
Is it easy to downgrade back to Gingerbread? I found some threads about doing it, but i didn't get what they meant. The only thing i did with 'rooting and flashing and stuff' is rooting my Samsung Galaxy Mini 2 and installing a custom recovery (because they told me to do so).
I really like Gingerbread and in my opinion Jelly Bean belongs on more recent, more expansive devices. Like a Galaxy Nexus or a Galaxy SIII.
Why you open this topic if you are satisfied with GingerBread?
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Because i know Jelly Bean works great too! It runs on my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity (well.. 4.1 ._.) and on my Nexus 7. I just wanted to know if it IS worth it upgrading (so i don't need to do a lot of things to reverse it ).
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Because i know Jelly Bean works great too! It runs on my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity (well.. 4.1 ._.) and on my Nexus 7. I just wanted to know if it IS worth it upgrading (so i don't need to do a lot of things to reverse it ).
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I will say from my personal experience:
I'm using the Stock LQ4. Without changes.
The best thing I did was not giving up the LQ4 after a FC/reboot on the first day of use when watching a video. I came from bad experiences with previous Jelly Bean. But ....
I came back after reboot and simply marked the option Settings / Developer options / "Force GPU rendering". It was just what I did since I installed LQ4 six days ago.
Battery life is just the same as on GingerBread. but everything else is better in Jelly Bean. There is no comparison.
This is my personal experience.
But if you still have questions you can expect. If anything happens to me out of the ordinary I certainly will make a report.
But anyway ... You did not read the forum? Your questions have all been answered.
I know i CAN, but it is hardto do so?
To do, WHAT?
I am using JB (LQ4) with cocore 2.8 kernel for two days and it is stable and fast so far.
Jelly Bean is far better than GB. The UI is more polished (aesthetically more pleasing and you need fewer taps to get somehing done), you have butter (smooth UI), better gmail app, significantly faster browsing! Also, my gps works better on JB.
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Alright, when my Advance arrives, i'll be glad to update it to Jelly Bean. Thanks everyone!
I am on stock Xlt5 rom and philz kernel with all bloats removed (including kies etc). My rom was good for a couple of days but then it started to lag and now it lags as much as a few seconds when I click to do something. I have tried many custom roms but the custom roms always have some issues. I like stock look because I don't do any fancy tricks with my phone. I use my phone as a tool so I would like to see it as stock as possible without extreme tweaks. I have also flashed some other stock roms with bloat removed and I get the same lags after a few days. So now I am about to just ditch this phone as I have come to believe the JB update on this phone is total crap. The same 4.1.2 on samsung galaxy s2 is great and buttery smooth but on note we have nothing but headaches in hand.
I would like to know which stock rom and kernel is without lags or with minimum lags and without any bugs.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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I am on stock Xlt5 rom and philz kernel with all bloats removed (including kies etc). My rom was good for a couple of days but then it started to lag and now it lags as much as a few seconds when I click to do something. I have tried many custom roms but the custom roms always have some issues. I like stock look because I don't do any fancy tricks with my phone. I use my phone as a tool so I would like to see it as stock as possible without extreme tweaks. I have also flashed some other stock roms with bloat removed and I get the same lags after a few days. So now I am about to just ditch this phone as I have come to believe the JB update on this phone is total crap. The same 4.1.2 on samsung galaxy s2 is great and buttery smooth but on note we have nothing but headaches in hand.
I would like to know which stock rom and kernel is without lags or with minimum lags and without any bugs.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Best rom thread..is against XDA rules. Anyways, answer for your question, Stock XXLT9 + Philz XXLT9 OR Sweet Rom V10 (with Philz XXLT9)- this is Custom rom & not stock