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Our kids are using the N7 and I wondered how I could go about making it a good tool for them to learn on (games, letters, numbers etc.) but at the same time hide/restrict the more grown-up stuff, like email, maps and all the other stuff they won't have need of at this time.
I figured I can make a folder for all their games and learning apps, but has anyone got any ideas of how I can tweak the unit so when they use it, it will be "barebones" for them but still allow me access to the full features if the need arises. The unit is predominately for the kids so I won't need access that much. It would be great that once they switch it on, all they see is "their" stuff. Ideas...?
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As far as the "child proofing" goes, definitely get a good case and screen protector, maybe even something that they can put around their wrist when they hold it so they don't drop it as much.
To hide apps, download something like Apex Launcher and go to the drawer settings, it has a way to hide any installed app.
You could also install Avast! Anti virus. I think that has a way to block certain websites from being accessed and and also includes features to find the device when lost and lock certain apps.
There is also a new launcher coming out called Chameleon that looks a lot more straight forward for a kid to use. The launcher also includes pages of apps that change the feel of the device.
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If you press the All Apps icon then touch and hold an icon for a built-in app, you can drag it up onto an Info icon. As well as showing you info about the app, it allows you to disable it. So you can install only 'safe' apps and disable 'non-safe' apps', including the Play Store.
Then all you have to do is make sure they don't have access to the Tapatalk app in case they read this post...
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I have the same problem my grandson is coming over for the weekend so I'm going to test this out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sp.protector.free
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The Play Store definitely has some child-proofing available.
If you're on the more nerdy side, you could actually root the device, set it up how you like it, then either make the Market and other offending apps invisible, or lock access to them.
Just depends on how far you want to go. Something tells me that the Play Store child-proofing may be enough.
There is an app called Switch Me. Basically it lets you configure multiple profiles by setting up a new /data partition for each one allowing you to restrict access to certain apps and so on and even have multiple Google accounts setup for each user. You should check out out.
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I would also look at Switchme to set up different user profiles.
EDIT: damn, evonc beat me to it by a few minutes. LOL
IconBoy said:
Our kids are using the N7 and I wondered how I could go about making it a good tool for them to learn on (games, letters, numbers etc.) but at the same time hide/restrict the more grown-up stuff, like email, maps and all the other stuff they won't have need of at this time.
I figured I can make a folder for all their games and learning apps, but has anyone got any ideas of how I can tweak the unit so when they use it, it will be "barebones" for them but still allow me access to the full features if the need arises. The unit is predominately for the kids so I won't need access that much. It would be great that once they switch it on, all they see is "their" stuff. Ideas...?
Thanks
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Try visidon which face locks apps so you can lock settings email and web
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I use applock on my kids' tablets. N7 is daddy's.
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I bought my 5 year old an original Samsung Galaxy tab 7" and he is autistic so went through a throwing phase when he first started getting into electronics, like when he'd lose in a game. Anyway we have just a silicon case for it and it has with held the torture of all time and it is still in great shape. He even threw it off a second story balcony and it landed on a hardwood floor... bouncing afterward... but still chugging. No dents or scratches or defects. Thing is a champ.
While the Nexus 7 is a little thinner, I figured I'd reply anyway. GET A CASE.... and a screen protector. The Galaxy tab is a stout device but let's hope the Nexus 7 is AS good if not better. It feels solid.
I just got mine after lots of torturing myself that my Transformer was sufficient, but I must say the more I use it the more I like it.
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I've been using an app called Kids Place for my 20 month old twins. Works great! It's like a home replacement and you can choose the apps available.
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You could look into the Fuhu Nabi 2 that I read about recently. It is basically a nexus 7 without JB (runs ICS), built in protection, and defaults to kids mode (the dad mode is a normal android). 8GB for $199
http://fineoils.blogspot.com/2012/07/fuhu-nabi-2-nexus-7-killer-for-kids.html
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Child proof it by buying them something else.
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Child proof it by buying them something else.
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No, not child proofing the nexus 7, but instead a "Childproof Nexus 7", as the title says, which is basically what that device seems to be. Though this would not help anybody who already has a Nexus 7, it may help somebody looking for a Nexus 7 type device for their child.
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You could look into the Fuhu Nabi 2 that I read about recently. It is basically a nexus 7 without JB (runs ICS), built in protection, and defaults to kids mode (the dad mode is a normal android). 8GB for $199
http://fineoils.blogspot.com/2012/07/fuhu-nabi-2-nexus-7-killer-for-kids.html
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Thanks for the link to my blog. As for OP's problem of rendering the "original" Nexus 7 child proof, it's technically doable by "borrowing" ROM from rooted Fuhu Nabi 2. Naturally, presenting the kid an original Fuhu Nabi 2 and taking back an original "adult" Nexus 7 would be more practical.
Pfft! Just don't let your kids use it. Make them go outside and build tree houses, play with an abacus or read encyclopaedias. 80s *****!
I also agree on getting the nabi2 its a really nice device. My 2 year old never killed her nabi1 and the 2 seems even more solid. She has thrown both of them and took a crayon (washable) to it and wild off with no marks or scratches on th screen.
The only issue I have is no root on it, but its nice and quick. Screen is not as nice as my Nexus7, but it has microsd slot and HDMI port. I hear someone rooted one but Fuhu asked them not to release how, so if anyone hears about root please post it here on the forums. I thought about trying the root tool for nexus but she loves it too much for me to risk it.
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Subscribed... I too am looking for a way to root the Nabi 2... i really would like to get the Google Play Store installed on this thing since I have a lot of apps already purchased through there...
Dropline:
...I hear someone rooted one but Fuhu asked them not to release how, so if anyone hears about root please post it here on the forums. I thought about trying the root tool for nexus but she loves it too much for me to risk it.
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Them Fuhuans can ask anybody anything, XDA-Devs is a free-rooting country. I think the race is on already, to turn Nabi 2 into a chewable/droppable N7 with SD slot/HDMI. My guess the N7 and Nabi 2 are twin brothers (ASUS 370T being their dad), so a "standard" N7 rooting tool will work. If not at the first attempt, then with some minor tweak.
I'm following Nabi 2 (and Furbi 2) progress in my blog closely, so you're welcome there. Can't guarantee being exclusive bearer of the news though....
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Dropline:
...I hear someone rooted one but Fuhu asked them not to release how, so if anyone hears about root please post it here on the forums. I thought about trying the root tool for nexus but she loves it too much for me to risk it.
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Them Fuhuans can ask anybody anything, XDA-Devs is a free-rooting country. I think the race is on already, to turn Nabi 2 into a chewable/droppable N7 with SD slot/HDMI. My guess the N7 and Nabi 2 are twin brothers (ASUS 370T being their dad), so a "standard" N7 rooting tool will work. If not at the first attempt, then with some minor tweak.
I'm following Nabi 2 (and Furbi 2) progress in my blog closely, so you're welcome there. Can't guarantee being exclusive bearer of the news though....
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I think you saw my other post about that guy and Fuhu. I tried a genetic tool. I was going to try with the nexus one, but Nabi is ICS not jellybean so did not want to risk it. Same boat, my kid loves it.
Also we got the glow in the dark bumper from fuhu with our VIP Gold upgrade, the new bumpers are bigger and thicker so should take a fall better. Just letting you know, not sure how rough you're kid is with it.
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I'm just gonna apologize in advance for this question, but I honestly don't know who else to ask. I'm the king of the noobs. There may be some unwritten rule not to ask this question so once again, sorry. I bought this Kindle Fire HD in hopes of custom roms, as I'm sure many did. $200.00 is a lot of money for me and I feel like I'm running out of time to send it back. So are custom roms something that will eventually happen or is it still a mystery? Are the chances really good it will happen or does anyone really know?
Never buy a new untested device in the hopes that it will get hacked. There was plenty of communication here about the new Kindle Fires being locked down weeks before it was released so that was probably not the best choice for you in the first place. If it gets modified, then it gets modified. If not, well, so be it. If you're worried about being able to exchange it, then go ahead and do so. Don't mess around with your investment. Get something you know suits your needs and be happy with it.
If you're wondering if it will EVER get modified, there's an old saying...
"The only "safe" system, is one that is unplugged, locked up in a safe with the keys, and sitting at the bottom of the ocean. And even then, there's cause for alarm."
Security measures are fallible, because the humans that made them are fallible. It all depends on how badly someone wants it. (I wouldn't hold my breath though)
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Never buy a new untested device in the hopes that it will get hacked. There was plenty of communication here about the new Kindle Fires being locked down weeks before it was released so that was probably not the best choice for you in the first place. If it gets modified, then it gets modified. If not, well, so be it. If you're worried about being able to exchange it, then go ahead and do so. Don't mess around with your investment. Get something you know suits your needs and be happy with it.
If you're wondering if it will EVER get modified, there's an old saying...
"The only "safe" system, is one that is unplugged, locked up in a safe with the keys, and sitting at the bottom of the ocean. And even then, there's cause for alarm."
Security measures are fallible, because the humans that made them are fallible. It all depends on how badly someone wants it. (I wouldn't hold my breath though)
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Thank you for your quick response. I never even checked any post before it came out. I guess I've learned the hard way. Back it goes.
Pretty good when Rooted
dalehelton said:
Thank you for your quick response. I never even checked any post before it came out. I guess I've learned the hard way. Back it goes.
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I have mine rooted with ADW Launcher EX (paid version) installed. That way I basically have a (almost) vanilla Android tablet (without the KFHD skin) running. The home button takes me back to ADW, not Amazon's launcher.
But I can still get to all the Amazon goodness by running Launcher.:good:
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I have mine rooted with ADW Launcher EX (paid version) installed. That way I basically have a (almost) vanilla Android tablet (without the KFHD skin) running. The home button takes me back to ADW, not Amazon's launcher.
But I can still get to all the Amazon goodness by running Launcher.:good:
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Including Amazon Prime Video? Thanks in advance.
The launchers are only an alternative skin. It doesn't replace anything else but that. There is an icon to easily get back to the amazon stock launcher so yes, all your amazon apps will work. There are additional icons that will spawn that will take you to video, app store and music. I believe the only one that is non functional with an alternative launcher is the kindle reader. You are forced to go back to the amazon launcher to get it to work. I've read people trying to fiddle with it to get it to work with alternative launchers.
Once roms are released (still dependent on the day the bootloader gets cracked), I'm thinking you will then have to choose either custom amazon or full android.
Hey Guys,
I've always been reluctant to buy a Tablet because I personally do not see a reason to own a Tablet, Laptop, and a smartphone. However, I recently found out that I will be getting a new Kindle Fire HD 7" for free through my cable company.
My first intent was to get it, sell it, and keep the money. However, after much consideration I figure I would just keep it. Needless to say, I began doing some research, and still researching, on the KF HD 7" as well as the Nexus 7 and am considering to sell it again. However, this time I want to sell it and use the money to purchase a Nexus 7.
Now my question to you, I have read the pros and cons of both devices on a technical level and would like to know your thoughts.
Having owned a KF HD 7, would you do what I am considering?
From a user perspective, why should I or should I not keep the device?
Anyone?
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keep
I personally would keep it because i enjoy tinkering so much, the kindle fire is a bit of a challenge because of its locked bootloader but ive managed to get quite a few things working, and im continually able to tweak it. However if your not the type of person to tinker like that? Id consider another tablet.
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Anyone?
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Nexus 7, android os is better. More apps and custom roms
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tylerholbrook said:
Nexus 7, android os is better. More apps and custom roms
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^^^ that.
The locked bootloader (even though it's now been fixed) is a big minus (why encourage this kind of behavior?). I use the n7 constantly. It's the bees knees.
I got the Kindle Fire HD free through First Bank. If I had the choice between both devices free, I certainly would have chosen the Nexus.
However, when I took into consideration the fact that I had the KFHD in my hand for free and didn't want to go through the hassle of selling it and buying a Nexus + tax, I simply kept the Kindle and rooted it. This is assuming I would have gotten full value for the KFHD, not paid selling fees, postage, driving etc. I would have rooted the Nexus anyway, so I consider time spent doing that with the Kindle a wash.
As a matter of principle though, I'm not a fan of how locked down Amazon made the device and don't want to support that in the future. I can understand why they did this and how it impacts the price point, but it's also something I would reconsider if given another opportunity.
All things considered, it's a great device (now) and I love it.
cheers
Enjoy the Kindle for what it is, tinkering makes things fun.
thank you so much
Thanks guys for your input. It seems that the Nexus will be the better choice for me especially since I am a flashing junkie.
I already have two people that want to buy the Kindle from me for 200.00 (not sire why, but I am not complaining).
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Personally, I much prefer the Amazon launcher over just a bunch of icons and widgets on a screen. I hate iCon devices because they're all just icon interfaces with no widgets. I like Android much better. But the Amazon is an evolvement. If I want to, I can put on a Go Launcher, or something - without rooting - and get all the widgets and little icons I want with the click of a button from the Amazon interface. I had the 16gb version of the HD 7" and rooted it, added ADW Launcher EX, and tricked it all out. It was cool, but... it was the same as all my other Android tablets and phones I've had, and have. I like the Amazon theme throughout the HD. I like the big icons and the fact that, for once, someone actually created an interface for a 7" tablet, and didn't - like Apple did - just shrink the tablet into a 7" factor and scaled it down so you can't even read the text under the icon-ville of their interface.
just remember, if you do watch any of your own videos you most likely will not be able to on the kindle fire HD. Even with outsidfe media players (which I believe there are a few of in the amazon app store) I have heard that the codec support is very limited
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Personally, I much prefer the Amazon launcher over just a bunch of icons and widgets on a screen. I hate iCon devices because they're all just icon interfaces with no widgets. I like Android much better. But the Amazon is an evolvement. If I want to, I can put on a Go Launcher, or something - without rooting - and get all the widgets and little icons I want with the click of a button from the Amazon interface. I had the 16gb version of the HD 7" and rooted it, added ADW Launcher EX, and tricked it all out. It was cool, but... it was the same as all my other Android tablets and phones I've had, and have. I like the Amazon theme throughout the HD. I like the big icons and the fact that, for once, someone actually created an interface for a 7" tablet, and didn't - like Apple did - just shrink the tablet into a 7" factor and scaled it down so you can't even read the text under the icon-ville of their interface.
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I agree with you. We seem to be the minority, but when using a device like the Kindle Fire.. My wife and I find it easier to use the full Amazon ecosystem with the way they have it setup. Its very convenient to have the category bar across the top for videos and books and it takes you right to the videos or books area embedded into the tab. You don't have to "open" a program persay.
I find normal Android for tablets to be pointless. I have the N7 as well and I've just left the home screens empty. No need for widgets as I do all my widget stuff from my phone... I will have the tablet in front of me and subconsciously find myself pulling out my phone to check email, clock, calendar, and even browse the web. On my other Android devices I usually install the iPad-esque UI because its simpler for the kids and for a tablet is makes more sense to have a simpler interface.
I would really love to port the KF launcher to my N7
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I find normal Android for tablets to be pointless. I have the N7 as well and I've just left the home screens empty. No need for widgets as I do all my widget stuff from my phone... I will have the tablet in front of me and subconsciously find myself pulling out my phone to check email, clock, calendar, and even browse the web. On my other Android devices I usually install the iPad-esque UI because its simpler for the kids and for a tablet is makes more sense to have a simpler interface.
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I feel the same way you do when it comes to having an Android Tablet and an Android smartphone. I am now leaning toward getting the HP Envy X2 instead.
I got my kindle fire HD yesterday and sold it today for 200.00 bucks.
My 73 year old dad is a proud new owner of a new Nook HD tablet. I am not sure if the gift was a mistake for him because it's just too big a leap of technology at this point. He just asked me, what is WiFi? Lol. I also unfortunately bought this with very little knowledge myself of nook and their OS, so that doesn't work in our favor either.
I still think there's going to be at least a few things he'll be able to do on it that will make his life better. My main thoughts are: reading, playing bridge, checking email, Facebook, browse the web. Any other easy things he "should" do on it, I would love to hear.
Since I won't be able to help support this very much after I set it up for him, I am wondering what experienced users on this tablet recommend doing with it visa vi setup? Should I leave it stock or flash an android ROM to it? Whatever is going to function the best and not cause him to deal with ANYTHING he might have to troubleshoot is what I think would be best for him. He's obviously going to be confused at times, and I just want to be able to show him how to do as many basic things as possible that keeps him using the device and makes it something useful for him.
Any advice at all greatly appreciated, since I don't own a nook myself educating me to help him will go a long ways for him too.
Thanks for your time!
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Honestly, if your dad is not tech savvy then I'd suggest leaving it as stock. It's a perfectly fine tablet as is for an entry-level use, certainly enough to read, check e-mail/Facebook, browse web, etc.
Plus if anything goes wrong with it, then he can always take it in to a B&N store and they can troubleshoot for him without any confusion about ROMs and such.
My 70 year old mother-in-law has a Nook HD Plus and has no issues now. She was a bit confused at first but now she gets it. She rarely asks me anything now. I left her stock she doesn't know it can run faster and if there are any issues I don't have to worry about her walking into a Barnes and Nobel with a rooted system.
Great, stock it is! Thanks
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Dillsnik said:
My 73 year old dad is a proud new owner of a new Nook HD tablet. I am not sure if the gift was a mistake for him because it's just too big a leap of technology at this point. He just asked me, what is WiFi? Lol. I also unfortunately bought this with very little knowledge myself of nook and their OS, so that doesn't work in our favor either.
I still think there's going to be at least a few things he'll be able to do on it that will make his life better. My main thoughts are: reading, playing bridge, checking email, Facebook, browse the web. Any other easy things he "should" do on it, I would love to hear.
Since I won't be able to help support this very much after I set it up for him, I am wondering what experienced users on this tablet recommend doing with it visa vi setup? Should I leave it stock or flash an android ROM to it? Whatever is going to function the best and not cause him to deal with ANYTHING he might have to troubleshoot is what I think would be best for him. He's obviously going to be confused at times, and I just want to be able to show him how to do as many basic things as possible that keeps him using the device and makes it something useful for him.
Any advice at all greatly appreciated, since I don't own a nook myself educating me to help him will go a long ways for him too.
Thanks for your time!
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I set one up very recently for a friend's dad who had suffered a stroke . I've set up countless Android tablets but not a nook before. I basically left it stock but I installed Nova launcher prime as I didn't like all the junk BN had put on the home screen. I didn't like the carousel and I didn't like that you could not create folders on the screen. After installing the launcher, I left on the home screen a five day HD weather widget, an internet folders containing Chrome and one other back up browser, Facebook, email, radio and you tube. a second folder with various type of games. Third folder with reading apps which could access his e-books. There is nothing else he need to know about. Showed him to press the n button should he find himself in a strange page or settings.
What kind of performance and what OS comes with the HD 7 Second generation? I assume you can root it. Woot has them on sale today and I'm wondering if I can use it for some apps that I can't read or see as well on my phone. Will it run Angry birds ok? What about some older games for comparison like HTR racing?
Hey I just stumbled across this thread because i was looking for a newer alternative to mine.
It is an okay tablet all around you just really need to know what you get yourself into.
First of all there is no working custom rom for it. So you will have to stay on Amazon Kitkat which is a very limited and at times annoying Rom since the menu takes too many taps to get anywhere. (3 taps to turn off wifi for example) and widgets that make it easier arent compatible as far as i have found even when rooted (rooting is quite the pain)
It also gets quite slow if you add the google play store from too many services running on it and you cant get rid of the amazon stuff without some things breaking.
For me i will switch to a quad core Tablet with a working aosp rom to be able to customize it a bit more.
Just playing some games or using it as a reader is does work quite well though. While the keyboard and launcher feel somewhat laggy at times, in games that aren't out of the cpus range like angry birds and clash royale it actually plays very smoothly.
I'm mostly switching because I can't change some things like the lockscreen and annoyingly designed settings menu and the laggy keyboard.
Also because i can get a much better/newer tablet for around 40€ around here and sell it for a similiar price apparently. It's okay for the price but you can probably get something much better. With a quad core if you keep looking/buy used on amazon where you still get warranty.
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First of all there is no working custom rom for it. So you will have to stay on Amazon Kitkat which is a very limited and at times annoying Rom since the menu takes too many taps to get anywhere. (3 taps to turn off wifi for example) and widgets that make it easier arent compatible as far as i have found even when rooted (rooting is quite the pain)
It also gets quite slow if you add the google play store from too many services running on it and you cant get rid of the amazon stuff without some things breaking.
For me i will switch to a quad core Tablet with a working aosp rom to be able to customize it a bit more.
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That's enough right there for me to pass. Not to mention the slowness you mentioned. Thanks. I passed on that one.
I have this generation of Kindle and there's plenty of ROMS for it. I bought this tablet 2 or 3 years ago for $100, and installed a CM ROM on it at the time. I recently installed a MM ROM on it and it works better than when I first got it.
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I have this generation of Kindle and there's plenty of ROMS for it. I bought this tablet 2 or 3 years ago for $100, and installed a CM ROM on it at the time. I recently installed a MM ROM on it and it works better than when I first got it.
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Thanks. Unfortunately the sale is over, but I'm still a little leery of this one. Could be ymmv situation.
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Thanks. Unfortunately the sale is over, but I'm still a little leery of this one. Could be ymmv situation.
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I bought the same exact tablet from the Woot sale. There are plenty of ROMs including an official Cyanogen: https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_tate
It might pop up again, for $30 or whatever I ended up paying it was a pretty good deal.
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I bought the same exact tablet from the Woot sale. There are plenty of ROMs including an official Cyanogen: https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_tate
It might pop up again, for $30 or whatever I ended up paying it was a pretty good deal.
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They have them on sale so much, I can't keep track of which one is which anymore.
olafolafson793 said:
Hey I just stumbled across this thread because i was looking for a newer alternative to mine.
It is an okay tablet all around you just really need to know what you get yourself into.
First of all there is no working custom rom for it. So you will have to stay on Amazon Kitkat which is a very limited and at times annoying Rom since the menu takes too many taps to get anywhere. (3 taps to turn off wifi for example) and widgets that make it easier arent compatible as far as i have found even when rooted (rooting is quite the pain)
It also gets quite slow if you add the google play store from too many services running on it and you cant get rid of the amazon stuff without some things breaking.
For me i will switch to a quad core Tablet with a working aosp rom to be able to customize it a bit more.
Just playing some games or using it as a reader is does work quite well though. While the keyboard and launcher feel somewhat laggy at times, in games that aren't out of the cpus range like angry birds and clash royale it actually plays very smoothly.
I'm mostly switching because I can't change some things like the lockscreen and annoyingly designed settings menu and the laggy keyboard.
Also because i can get a much better/newer tablet for around 40€ around here and sell it for a similiar price apparently. It's okay for the price but you can probably get something much better. With a quad core if you keep looking/buy used on amazon where you still get warranty.
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The one he is showing is the "tate" model that HAS plenty of custom roms.