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ICS porting

Oki guys. Here we have new thread about ICS.
Here you can find guide how to port ICS - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312595
I didn't test it, because I don't have skills for it. But here we have a lot of super users who know pretty much about it. So you can try it.

no success
after eoghan and despotovski01 tried it we won't get it ported from sdk due to the processor being armv6 and not 7. well have to wait for AOSP source codes.
BTW aosp means android open source project

Its annoying something so small can be such a big problem. One tiny difference pretty much the same instruction set and architecture one uses software to do some low level grunt work the other hardware. Why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I going to try and copy libs from swiftdroid to see if i can at least get it booting to get a logcat dump.
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Anyone no what libs would be needed?
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We will have to wait for a month or so for the source. Google promises the code to be out when Galaxy Nexus ships.
Cyanogen won't be porting ICS till source is out. Hopefully, CM9 will be ICS.

ugh see this mobile.pcmag.com/device2/article.php?CALL_URL=http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395026,00.asp#fbid=Mk7YleZQ1Tj

Guys it would be very hard to build ICS for our device. It would require a very powerful computer and it would be harder than making any other previous Android build. Days ago I said I will do it with my brother as soon as the sources are released, but then I read an article about the specs needed for building ICS. On a quad-core AMD Phenom processor, it would take more than 5 hours to build ICS! And the recommended amount of RAM on a computer is 16GB! This is just too much for my dual-core Intel Core i5 laptop with 4GB of RAM.

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Guys it would be very hard to build ICS for our device. It would require a very powerful computer and it would be harder than making any other previous Android build. Days ago I said I will do it with my brother as soon as the sources are released, but then I read an article about the specs needed for building ICS. On a quad-core AMD Phenom processor, it would take more than 5 hours to build ICS! And the recommended amount of RAM on a computer is 16GB! This is just too much for my dual-core Intel Core i5 laptop with 4GB of RAM.
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uh that's hard.. I can't help too..
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despotovski01 said:
Guys it would be very hard to build ICS for our device. It would require a very powerful computer and it would be harder than making any other previous Android build. Days ago I said I will do it with my brother as soon as the sources are released, but then I read an article about the specs needed for building ICS. On a quad-core AMD Phenom processor, it would take more than 5 hours to build ICS! And the recommended amount of RAM on a computer is 16GB! This is just too much for my dual-core Intel Core i5 laptop with 4GB of RAM.
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Are you believing in this? I succesfully built Android 2.3.7 on my 512MB RAM - AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (0.13 um) @ 2GHz computer!

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Are you believing in this? I succesfully built Android 2.3.7 on my 512MB RAM - AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (0.13 um) @ 2GHz computer!
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Yes I believe in it, because a guy from Google said that. I see no reason why I shouldn't believe it.
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Yes I believe in it, because a guy from Google said that. I see no reason why I shouldn't believe it.
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One more thing: I never said it won't be possible to build it on my laptop - I said it would take very long.

I have a AMD quadcore but not 16gb ram xD Besides, I dont know anything about porting...
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I wish i had a nexus 4g they have a fully working sdk port ;( but i wont give up
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I wish i had a nexus 4g they have a fully working sdk port ;( but i wont give up
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come dude.. dream higher... i wish i were rich like bill gates... lol.
btw, goodluck for the porting. im gonna stick to gt540 until it broken or i lost it...

i have similar spec
Aspire 5820TG
core i5-480m (2.66GHz-2.93GHz)
4gb ram
looks like we need a custom built computer or ... NASA WE NEED YOUR COMPUTERS!!!!

i try build 2.3.xx , my PC is more than enough. PhenomII [email protected],36GHz+8G DDR3. I think that PC spec is only for really fast compiling... (not more than 1hour/compile complete system)

I have 64gb of ram and 8 cores. If you send sources to github I can build it for you. I don't have time to play with porting.
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nice specs O.O

soo ics porting will be harder
than anyone expected it to be..

bs828 said:
nice specs O.O
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We have servers with 12cores and 96gb too so it's not the most powerful.
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ICS waiting .....

No new kernels , rom`s , mod`s , nightles .... so bored ....
Every day open xda and I hope to see something new .... but ....
Other forums ( nexus s , hd2 , HD etc etc ) burn like fire of new posts ....

Same here, it looks like we did make big mistake when we bought LG!
srry 4 bad eng
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Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.

Rusty! said:
Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.
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Unfortunately yes :-(
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Rusty! said:
Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.
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And frankly I dont get why nvidia is doing this.
I dont think that any of us will ever buy an Nvidia chipset mobile device ever again.
Dont they see that?
How arrogant are they?
Kal-el seems to be amazing in terms of performance and efficiency.. but who cares...
I'd rather get a device which is not as good, knowing that for the next 1-2 years i'll have custom roms with updated OS.

This seems interesting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19861004&postcount=57

Seriously??? I think both got fault but I think LG's fault is more serious because the latest Kernal has already been released by Nvidia but don't know why LG is not releasing it with the GB they release with 2x...

Seriously, you bought the first dual core phone in the world with a chipset made by a company who's never been in the phone business before (nvidia) made by a company who's never made high end android phones before (lg) and you expected everything to work flawlessly? Have some patience, lg has announced that they will release ics and nvidia has done a lot more already than I had expected (they are actually communicating with arcee about releasing stuff they don't have to release.

Well it looks like they're finally getting their act in gear, so all is not yet lost.

Rusty! said:
Well it looks like they're finally getting their act in gear, so all is not yet lost.
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Agreed. I am slightly hopeful about this turning into a good phone . I just think that both nvidia and lg have fewer android-developers than what would have been optimal. This combined with the fact that they needed to release the device fast has lead to some frustration.

I love the phone.... it has enough power, a beautiful IPS screen and is just the right size for me. It now has Gingerbread and ICS is promised. What's not to like? My missus has the iphone 4s and it was twice the cost I paid for my LG. I wouldn't swap mine for an iphone or any other £500 mobile just yet as it does all that's required and looks to have a rosy future with ICS.
Pete.

ergoen said:
Seriously, you bought the first dual core phone in the world with a chipset made by a company who's never been in the phone business before (nvidia) made by a company who's never made high end android phones before (lg) and you expected everything to work flawlessly? Have some patience, lg has announced that they will release ics and nvidia has done a lot more already than I had expected (they are actually communicating with arcee about releasing stuff they don't have to release.
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Agreed
Take a look at SonyEricsson when they first relased Xperia.. First update from Donut to Eclair, it was even worse then LG. And dont forget how they locked Xperia bootloaders, damn people hated that company But now, a year later they actually help you to unlock bootloaders, are pretty quick with updates. And they even made dualtouch to X10, just because people demanded it.
So yes, companys can make 180° turns
So dont throw away your awesome piece of electronic, you are going to regret it.
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i saw a g2x forum, and in the ICS project thread Azuscee wrote that CM team has fully working ICS for g2x(which is 2x actually). So i think they have fully working test build for 2x also...so don't worry, we will have CM9 officially.

It's not fully working, the camera is a no-go.

OMG..
Just saw the news from nvidia...
The trouble they would go, not to release the source code, is amazing..
I wonder why

So much frustration and problems with all this .... when I had the N95 8GB, `problem` was only about Garmin and some other small non-essential apps ...
everything else is working well and I had no need to change anything .....
ps,,,, My wife will go crazy because I spend more time with phone
Zorica: Halid , can you please bring me a jacket ?
Halid: Ok Zorica , just to do nandroid restore and flash other kernel ... I fell in fck bootloop
Zorica: Arrrrgggrr .......

Rusty! said:
It's not fully working, the camera is a no-go.
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Is anything on the O2X working??

I think that everything bar the camera is working.

Rusty! said:
I think that everything bar the camera is working.
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So everything is working, except camera, including all features? Even hardware acceleration?

I think so.

It's time to have a full-working ICS' Rom for our O2x?

Look here! http://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra What do you think? Video Encoding/decoding and H/w bugs can now solved? ???

As a lot of developers said, this is for linux, not for android so it's useless

Oh my God... please use the search button! Please! This is not for android, but for Linux! If you read the date of publishing you can understand that it is impossible that our developers don't know it, and do not open a new thread for this in developement section!
There is an identical topic in general created today...
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I'm sorry, i've post this on the wrong section! Sorryyyy please, close this!
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Android is linux based os for mobile devices
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wtf... im confused... isnt android linux? O_O

I'd say its definitly time for fully working ICS but who knows what NVIDIA thinks about it... .
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Android is linux based os for mobile devices
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You just answered yourself sir
Linux BASED
My ubuntu binaries doesn't work on Android so don't expect Linux blobs will work
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owain, i thought galaxy s2 had ics already, if so, why not port the drivers?

skylinegt77 said:
owain, i thought galaxy s2 had ics already, if so, why not port the drivers?
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It's not the same hardware...
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slebit said:
It's not the same hardware...
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ohhh. thought at least video and graphics processors where the same

At this moment, none of the three handsets with Tegra 2 (LG P990/P999/SU660, Motorola ME860/MB860, Samsung GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
At the same time, these 3 manufacturers have rolled out ICS updates for other devices, so it's not like they don't know how to work with ICS.
Feel free to draw your own conclusions on who should be blamed for this frustrating situation of our devices. I know, though, who NOT to buy from again (hint: it's not LG).
And before someone say T2 tablets getting ICS, tablets != phones. I don't think any T2 tablets even have a 3G radio, so the chip can be of a completely different SKU and hence incompatible binaries.

akyp said:
At this moment, none of the three handsets with Tegra 2 (LG P990/P999/SU660, Motorola ME860/MB860, Samsung GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
At the same time, these 3 manufacturers have rolled out ICS updates for other devices, so it's not like they don't know how to work with ICS.
Feel free to draw your own conclusions on who should be blamed for this frustrating situation of our devices. I know, though, who NOT to buy from again (hint: it's not LG).
And before someone say T2 tablets getting ICS, tablets != phones. I don't think any T2 tablets even have a 3G radio, so the chip can be of a completely different SKU and hence incompatible binaries.
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Yes it is LG
If it was nvidia I would not typing this on a tegra device
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lol owain, you're silly
but I reckon that even if someone can grab the ICS build of the newer LG phones (Lge/Lge2/4x?) that without the right T2 binaries...its pretty much useless?

mad_catmk2 said:
lol owain, you're silly
but I reckon that even if someone can grab the ICS build of the newer LG phones (Lge/Lge2/4x?) that without the right T2 binaries...its pretty much useless?
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Why ?
Nvidia probably gave the sources to lg (and other companies) before the public ics release
It is not up to nvidia to update the device to ICS it is up to lg but they are busier with newer phones
You would do the same if you were owner of lg it is about making money not about supporting old devices
Priority 1 new phones
Priority 2 software updates for the new phones
Priority 3 support for old phones
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nah I just like your general attitude towards building ROMS for this phone! its great to have a good community right?
I agree though with your logic...its just a truth that I choose not to accept since I did buy this phone nay a year ago for a hefty sum of money. I just want LG to give you guys the sources so we can all have fun and leave them alone (and get me that ICS fun)

Yeah I don't know why LG don't just "leak" the ics testing rom for O2X which I'm sure does exist in the deepest realm of LG.
That way it would get us lot of their back, they could concentrate on the newer phones, and nobody would care about the official release of ICS for O2X anymore

As someone who has had several LG phones I can safely say that once they have released a phone LG tends to stop giving a crap about it.

I think it's not in the LG itself, because no one with a Tegra 2 is not received ICS. Samsung has updated all the models, but it has not updated the model Galaxy R, but we know how well does the Samsung firmware! I think there is some sort of a different problem!
Nvidia probably gave the sources to lg (and other companies) before the public ics release
It is not up to nvidia to update the device to ICS it is up to lg but they are busier with newer phones
You would do the same if you were owner of lg it is about making money not about supporting old devices
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It depends on the quality of the company, after a very long supported samsung Galaxy S, even when the market was a Galaxy S2.
The company realized the essence of Samsung Android devices, such as to make them attractive to buyers - do quality support. Other companies do not understand this, because the coolest gadget, without the support - a piece of plastic!

ownjoouk said:
Yeah I don't know why LG don't just "leak" the ics testing rom for O2X which I'm sure does exist in the deepest realm of LG.
That way it would get us lot of their back, they could concentrate on the newer phones, and nobody would care about the official release of ICS for O2X anymore
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I asked Paul from Modaco to get a leak from his LG internal source.
Unfortunately there is nothing to leak yet...
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When Android will stop support our phones ?

Hi guys
I just wondering when android will stop support our phones.
I love my phone and i hate that there is no official newer version of android. I mean 4.x ver.
So what do you think ?
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Well it depends how much resources future android versions take up. The main bottleneck for this phone is the slow storage chip and 512MB of RAM, which will prove hard to overcome if future android versions ask for even more from these 2 compartments. Jelly bean is already making the sgs1 crap itself out from time to time, but these issues will hopefully resolve over time, given the amazing work the devs over here have done in ICS.
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If you mean official support, there's none already.
Samsung did a really bad job, both in the extreme delays in the updates it released and in stopping updates at gingerbread (already 2 versions behind current development).
Google could have helped by directly supporting the i9000, since it's so similar to the nexus s.
But unfortunately, they didn't.
A shame, since this is THE device that took android to the next level.
Fortunately, there's the great work by teamhacksung and cm to keep up with current development.
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Most likely, JB is the latest Android version we will ever get.. time to renew our phones next year buddies!

alejoar said:
Most likely, JB is the latest Android version we will ever get.. time to renew our phones next year buddies!
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agree with you ,planing in buying a sgs 4 or how it will be called in the next year.

alejoar said:
Most likely, JB is the latest Android version we will ever get.. time to renew our phones next year buddies!
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Never say never.
Even the G1 has a JB port.
As someone who ran froyo on an HTC tytn II, I think it's hard to say that.
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alejoar said:
Most likely, JB is the latest Android version we will ever get.. time to renew our phones next year buddies!
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I wouldn't be so sure, I just came from the xperia x8. We stopped getting support at 2.1 yet we still have almost bugless ICS ROMs (minus h/w decoding) plus two cm10 ROMs have just been released. All that from a 600Mhz phone with only 190mb usable RAM.
I haven't had any problems so far with jb. Everything's fast and smooth with very little lag which was only when running multiple Gameloft games.
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I think our good old sgs is already showing lack of speed for nowadays standards.. Christmas is coming

alejoar said:
I think our good old sgs is already showing lack of speed for nowadays standards.. Christmas is coming
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well yes,but only because the nand is far to slow.
Cpu ang gpu are mird range if i guess right

Technically, jelly bean also was too resource hungry for our phones, but the devs managed to do various workarounds.
So it doesn't necessarily mean that the next android version cannot be shoe horned onto our phones.
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LG's L40(kitkat) vs P900(ICS).. Cheated by LG

I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?

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BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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Money Money Money :thumbup:
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gagan97 said:
I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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Would you buy it? I mean, seriously dude, it's about selling. They are going to make a few millions on that L40 just because it's brand new, has kitkat and has a screen size like older iPhones. If they would update the "unupdateable" Tegra2 powered, 2-3 years old 2X, then everyone would go around buying second-hand, used 2Xs for 40$ on eBay, instead of going for their new phone.

I'd rather say Google cheated everyone, because Android updates life cycle is too short. There is a bunch of "old" phones with very capable hardware to run KitKat 4.4 and phone manufacturers won't ever update them because they just don't have any legal obligation to do so, we only have to hope their "goodwill" to release drive sources, which isn't the case for our 2x since nVidia and LG don't give a %#@!.
It's kinda sad me to see how a very capable phone gets obsolete by force due the lack of system updates, and I'm not talking only about our O2x.
This also raises other important topic, such as about electronic waste, people are wasting their 2 year phone because they are stuck in Gingerbread limbo.

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I'd rather say Google cheated everyone, because Android updates life cycle is too short. There is a bunch of "old" phones with very capable hardware to run KitKat 4.4 and phone manufacturers won't ever update them because they just don't have any legal obligation to do so, we only have to hope their "goodwill" to release drive sources, which isn't the case for our 2x since nVidia and LG don't give a %#@!.
It's kinda sad me to see how a very capable phone gets obsolete by force due the lack of system updates, and I'm not talking only about our O2x.
This also raises other important topic, such as about electronic waste, people are wasting their 2 year phone because they are stuck in Gingerbread limbo.
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+1, i think the best manufacturer were we can go is sony?? :noidea:
as i can see today sony is the only manufacturer that providing at least the sources for old phones?

I think it's worse that they wont give out all the code needed to optimize and improve the Tegra2 cores for O2X than updating it themselves.
(since they obviously aren't very good at it)

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Would you buy it? I mean, seriously dude, it's about selling. They are going to make a few millions on that L40 just because it's brand new, has kitkat and has a screen size like older iPhones. If they would update the "unupdateable" Tegra2 powered, 2-3 years old 2X, then everyone would go around buying second-hand, used 2Xs for 40$ on eBay, instead of going for their new phone.
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Well they could at least give out a stable ics ota
The official ics update is crap as hell totally unusable, i would have sold this phone but thanks to the wonderful devs of this community I'm still using it ?
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gagan97 said:
I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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That L40 is dumb but no doubt like the L3 it will be a great kids phone.
But our P990 will not get love from LG mine is 2 years old now and it was the last of them to be seen here in New Zealand, most people will break or loose the phone by now why develop for such a small audeince, dont forget our phone only have about 384mb of ram and they do not support NEON instuction either it was meant to be over at 4.2 but TonyP and pengus got us a bit further.
Even if you look at the specs i dont think the L90 would be a good replacement for the P990 mainly because of the price im guessing it will be more than the Nexus 5 which cost now the same amount as the P990 cost me two years ago.

The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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nvidia drivers are closed source and they do not update the drivers any more - and the tegra2 does not even support neon-instructions - thats why LG stopped developing
and because the phone now really is too old - i mean, a 3 year old smartphone is already a dinosaur, what other company still develops updates for such old phones?
my next phone will definitely have NO nvidia chip in it, and will be manufactured by sony because of their full open source approach.

akash.mahadeshwar said:
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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i bought O2x to my girlfriend last summer,and that was BIG mistake, she need phone,fast,and...luckily we have our developers that make awesome stuff but still, and than i bought to my self O4x, another mistake...i think that that is last tegra device i EVER buy,this is just unforgivable, devices with a lot potential don't receive updates that they deserve ,i won't put so much blame on lg, because htc one x even won't receive kitkat, because of nvidia(nvidia shame on you,you better stay away from smartphone scene,just make people angry) ...except if K1 go open source,than maybe can be an option for buying,but after that i doubt....almost dead in my book,just sad

akash.mahadeshwar said:
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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In a nutshell, LG + nVIDIA = terrible mistake, total disaster for android.
This is probably the worst combination in android world. LG for its extremely slow system updates schedules and nVIDIA for dropping the support for past SoCs too soon and won't even bother releasing proper documentation or blobs for futher development.

F. Gacrux said:
In a nutshell, LG + nVIDIA = terrible mistake, total disaster for android.
This is probably the worst combination in android world. LG for its extremely slow system updates schedules and nVIDIA for dropping the support for past SoCs too soon and won't even bother releasing proper documentation or blobs for futher development.
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well the annoying thing is that they both are the best companies. LG and nVidia did the gratest things, LG invented the first dual-core phone (our O2X) and the first 4K TV, nvidia invented first 3D Vision on PC's and so on..... They are grate companies but when it comes to who gives less f***ks LG and nVidia are the first :laugh: and they are terrible at software developing. :crying:

Agreed, I have owned my last nvvidia phone.
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The only direct responsible for this situation is nVidia. Those who were in active in this forum the last couple of years know perfectly well how it all went down and, even though it was LG the one who should push updates for the o2x, its always been nVidia that obstructed development efforts due to its notorious closed-source policy. In the end of the day, its perfectly understandable for a company to stop supporting a 3-year old device, considering the silly pace in which mobile tech evolves. Keep in mind that the o2x hasnt been the worst of examples in this area. Even though it still holds the record for longest update holdout (16 months to go from Android 2.2 to 2.3 - even mentioned in Wikipedia) it has seen 2 major OS updates: 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0. Direct competition doesn't differ too much in this sense (SGS 2.3 to 4.0.4 to 4.1, HTC Thunderbolt 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0) with some 'flagships' that year seeing much less (see Droid Bionic). We should really be grateful that some amazing devs happened to join this forum and dedicated lots of time and knowledge to maintain this phone and get it where it is right now. It's been some time that i dont use my o2x (passed it on to my gf - still runs great) and moved to an iP4s due to Google's frustrating incapability to write a decent low latency audio API (Apple is the undisputed king there). So even though im not planning to move back to Android before this embarrassing situation is resolved, Im absolutely convinced that ill never, ever buy an nVidia powered phone again, no matter what they come up with. So yes, once more: nVidia, F**k You!

oh no
Not only lg even htc ndivia powered device such htc one x didnt get kitkat update, they have twice power engine than o2x. I think owner of htc one x cry louder than us thanx to nvidia :crying:

This isn't the first time that LG cheats his users.
Just remember the Optimus 3D updates...

Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
Linus Torvals complained about Nvidia because of the lack of their support for Linux and Android. I think it was a good opinion that he said what he thinks about that company. For computers, AMD and ATI have a great support for Linux, which is really nice. Too bad I noticed too late what a fault it was to buy an Nvidia pc, too.

BS86 said:
my next phone will definitely have NO nvidia chip in it, and will be manufactured by sony because of their full open source approach.
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Does that mean that you'll get a lot of more or less bug free custom ROMs for them? I'm looking forward to buy a phone which will have better custom ROM support in the future without all those nasty bugs which are related to closed source drivers and hidden hardware information like with this phine (camera bug in 4.4, bluetooth call bugs, gps fix problems caused by software). I am really tired because of all that. I never found any very smooth ROM without all those problems.

cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
Does that mean that you'll get a lot of more or less bug free custom ROMs for them? I'm looking forward to buy a phone which will have better custom ROM support in the future without all those nasty bugs which are related to closed source drivers and hidden hardware information like with this phine (camera bug in 4.4, bluetooth call bugs, gps fix problems caused by software). I am really tired because of all that. I never found any very smooth ROM without all those problems.
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every manufacturer unfortunately has some closed source parts, some more, some less, but some can't be avoided - but yes, sony has the best open source approach and therefore the best custom rom base