Hello
I have a S6500 and I would like to install a custom rom I've seen here, but I would like to do before a backup of my stock rom that is flashable by odin without installing cwm as my stock ROM is S6500BVLE3 Orange Spain and for reasons of I like to have my warranty stock rom.
Anyone know if I could create a full backup without installing cwm, for exemple adb commands, etc..?
Thanks.
root ur phone
install titanium backup app
backup all the data of everything
you can make a full nandroid backup with stock recovery.
pryerlee said:
you can make a full nandroid backup with stock recovery.
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No you can :facepalm:
If that would, no one will install CWM.
it is very difficult to create a odin flashable fw
there's a guide for it in xda
There is disk image of stock ROM flashable via odin but of course data will no be restorable and must be backed up via titanium backup.
Sent from s6500d with custom ROM and kernel.
Well ... if you want to install a custom ROM , you would have to install CWM anyway , so yea ... xD
I can guarantee that there's nothing that could happen to your device as long as you flash the right things , though . You can find all you need in my signature below (first download Odin , then the CWM 5.0.2.8 .tar , then flash the CWM tar as PDA with Odin while your phone is in Download mode) .
So the short answer is no , you can't do anything without CWM (no backing up , no rooting , no custom roms) .
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Hello,
I need to know before install Overcome & CWM if it's possible to backup my stock KERNEL. Currently i have 2.6.36.3 kernel.
I think that is better to restore with the original kernel if need to use tha warranty one day ?
So is it possible to backup or download the stock KERNEL.
Thanks a lot for your help.
before you do anything get a nandroid backup and save that original nandroid backup.
Nandroid Backups are a full ROM backup, that means:
Radios
ROMs
Kernels
User Data
Trying to claim a warranty after you violate the terms and services isn't the most honest thing to but if you intent to cheat the warranty system that just hold on to your backup. A nandroid backs up everything
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply. For the warranty I am okay with you regarding the honesty.
About the Nandroid ROM backup, i read somewhere that full backup must be done but it backup all except the Kernel !
I am little bit lost :
1/ The KERNEL Backup can be done with Nandroid backup ?
2/ Can we make Nandroid backup with stock ROM & stock Kernel (fresh TAB) ?
3/ The CWM is it a Kernel ?
Thanks a lot.
subtil123 said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply. For the warranty I am okay with you regarding the honesty.
About the Nandroid ROM backup, i read somewhere that full backup must be done but it backup all except the Kernel !
I am little bit lost :
1/ The KERNEL Backup can be done with Nandroid backup ?
2/ Can we make Nandroid backup with stock ROM & stock Kernel (fresh TAB) ?
3/ The CWM is it a Kernel ?
Thanks a lot.
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CWM stands for clockwordmod, its a custom recovery. You need a custom recovery before you can start changing things about your tablet. It is Not a kernel. Think of a car. A kernel is like eh engine, the recovery is like a toolbox. Its more complicated but thats the idea. The stock recovery is too limited, which is why we have custom ones
When you do a nandroid back up it backs up everything. When you do a nandroid back it backs up the kernel as well as the ROM all of your settings and app data. All in one.
If you want a stock nandroid Do it first thing after you have a custom recovery. A nandroid is saved in the clockwordmod folder. Then save that file somewhere safe. Flash drive computer t whatever.
Hope this helps
subtil123 said:
Hello,
I need to know before install Overcome & CWM if it's possible to backup my stock KERNEL. Currently i have 2.6.36.3 kernel.
I think that is better to restore with the original kernel if need to use tha warranty one day ?
So is it possible to backup or download the stock KERNEL.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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Here is the Flashable zip for backup your Old recovery and kernel
First, You need root
From your stock recovery, Flash backupkernelrecovery.zip.
Approximately 30 seconds, backup process will make a folder "mybackups" in your SD card,
Reboot as normal, and Open "My Files" and see folder "mybackups"..
You'll find 2 file recovery.img(your stock recovery) and boot.img (stock kernel)
For Restore your recovery.img
download overcome cwm from alterbridge86 thread, unzip the file and replace recovery.img from that files with yours..zip again and flash from recovery, reboot and you got your old stock recovery..
Warning: Only restore Stock recovery after nandroid Restore done..with same firmware
Tested on my P7300 and works..
Hello All
Thanks a lot for your help.
I'm now on overcome 2.2.0 with Motley Kernel.
I just done a Nandroid Backup before. I also found on Net a file to restore all, Stock rom & Kernel.
Thanks again.
I have a SGS GT-I9000 rooted n a ICS ROM
but when i tried to restore my default ROM back with CWM it got stuck on boot splash screen.
I also tried flashing the same kernel again but it didnt worked.
And when i boot into recovery mode it gives me errors like
E:can't mount/cache/recovery/log
E:can't open/cache/recovery/log
E:unknown volume for path[/cache/recovery/last_log]
and so on......
any solution anybody????plss.......
Hi.
You can't restore your old gingerbread stock from ICS via nandroid.
You must flash the Stock ROM with Odin.
Befor that maybe you can flash the ICS kernel again and boot into ICS, then backup your clockworkmod folder via USB. After the Backup flash a stock ROM and cf-root or semaphore 2.5.0 via Odin.... after that load your clockworkmod folder to your internal SD-Card and boot into CWM. Now you can restore your Backup from gingerbread.
Sorry for my poor english. I hope you understand me.
// use the semaphore 0.8.1 kernel for ics. Than boot your phone and save the clockworkmod folder. When dosn't work, 1. flash the stock ROM 2. flash cf-root 3 boot in cwm go to restore and look for the backup... it must be in there
daggi78 said:
Hi.
You can't restore your old gingerbread stock from ICS via nandroid.
You must flash the Stock ROM with Odin.
Befor that maybe you can flash the ICS kernel again and boot into ICS, then backup your clockworkmod folder via USB. After the Backup flash a stock ROM and cf-root or semaphore 2.5.0 via Odin.... after that load your clockworkmod folder to your internal SD-Card and boot into CWM. Now you can restore your Backup from gingerbread.
Sorry for my poor english. I hope you understand me.
// use the semaphore 0.8.1 kernel for ics. Than boot your phone and save the clockworkmod folder. When dosn't work, 1. flash the stock ROM 2. flash cf-root 3 boot in cwm go to restore and look for the backup... it must be in there
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Thanx mate thanx a lot
u saved my mobile from dying.
You're welcome.
my act is:
1. do a nandroid Backup of the system befor flash a new one.
2. Save the hole Backup folder on my PC and rename it like " system_old_date "
3. Flash the new system.
4. do a nandroid backup from the new system.
5. Save the hole Backup folder on my PC and rename it like " system_new_date "
With this 5 steps I'm always on the safe side.
i do the same but this time dont kno how but it went wrong and those errors poped out
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I think:
The problem is ICS and Gingerbread are differnet systems, with different Kernels and paths.
When you start the restoreprocess the systemdata will be restored but not the kernel with CWM. Both systems have different paths, and so you get this error.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think:
The problem is ICS and Gingerbread are differnet systems, with different Kernels and paths.
When you start the restoreprocess the systemdata will be restored but not the kernel with CWM. Both systems have different paths, and so you get this error.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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may be ,but it didnt happned when i restored my SGS2 from CM9 to my rooted kernel
it only happned in my SGS
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That's strange. Perhaps a developer knows why that is?
Reflash
Perhaps, the instruction to installing ICS states that you should have done a full wipe (data + partition) and installed the ROM/Kernal again. It would have worked...anyways you are back on GB, enjoy
hello .
i am using galaxy s i9000 , with stock ddjv9 , n speedmod kernel .
i flashed speedmod kernel n i was able to reboot into cwm recovery using 3 buttons .
then i installed rommanager from market but it was not recoznising the cwm recovery version , so i flashed cwm recovery again frm rom manager .
but when i select reboot into recovery or back up rom frm rom manager it reboots to stock 3e recovery , n doesnt perform any backup .
i can still boot into cwm recovery 2.5.1.2 using 3 buttons .
plzz help . i want to use rom manager to perform backup .
Forget from manager and you your recovery to perform a backup. It's called a nandroid back up, it saves your whole system in its current configuration.
You restore this backup if something goes wrong and you can't boot up to your home, but you can still use recovery. If you want to backup apps and stuff then use other means such as titanium backup. If you want specific backups then let me know and I will give you a list of what i use.
As far as I know rom manager does the same thing however automates it so you don't have to go to recovery and go through the selections. Another thing you may need to be aware of is if rom manager doesn't recognise your recovery, any backup you attempt to make may be corrupt and un usable. If you want to fix recovery you may need to reflash your kernal. Not just CWM. This should retain all data and settings.
Hop that helps
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But i cant do back up frm cwm recovery too . Its reboots into 3e recovery n nothing happens .
I want to use rommanager to flash custom roms after making a backup .
So my main aim is to make cwm recovery working thru rom manager .
My rommangaer can detect cwm recovery . After i selected flash recovery frm rommanager. But cant reboot into it or do other functions.
Plz help. With steps to perform.
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i have same problem i think .
1. i tried to install a new rom downloaded it and put it into phone & sd card.
2. i have tried to apply update from sdcared first i found it it seems to run fine but after that phone keep turning on seeing "galaxy s i9000 " and than showing it again in loop .
3. i can get into clockworkmod recover v 3.0.0.5 by pression those 3 buttons.
4 . when i plug it into the computer i cannot do anything with the data.
hope someone can help me.
and sorry if that is not connected to the thread
thanks~!.
p.s
my phone is rooted
dhillon7 said:
i can still boot into cwm recovery 2.5.1.2 using 3 buttons
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Thought you could get into this recovery??
Are you saying when you use the 3-button combo to get to this recovery it works, but then trying to make a backup does not work??
To fix recovery...
Talon26 said:
If you want to fix recovery you may need to reflash your kernal. Not just CWM. This should retain all data and settings.
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dhillon7 said:
I want to use rommanager to flash custom roms after making a backup.
So my main aim is to make cwm recovery working thru rom manager.
My rommangaer can detect cwm recovery . After i selected flash recovery frm rommanager. But cant reboot into it or do other functions.
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So what your saying is although rom manager detects it (recovery), it is useless as you cannot get into it to make a backup via rom manager
I suggest first go to manage apps and clear data for rom manager>>>open up rom manager>>>make a backup.
*CWM not detected?>>>flash via Rom manager>>>Backup...Remember because you are on stock your device is Galaxy S not Galaxy SMTD. As i believe MTD is for cyanogen based roms (I am 99% sure of this)
*If this still does not work, clear data again>>>do not open Rom manager but turn off phone>>>go to recovery (via 3-button combo)>>>Backup/restore>>>backup
If that does not work then Reflash your kernal as you did before, or any other kernal that you want that is compatible with stock roms. You will probably need Odin flashable kernals as your CWM is not working. You can try flash the kernal via rom manager, not sure what the result of this would be if CWM is not being installed properly. Instructions for installing the kernal will be from where ever you download the kernal.
So all the above should enable you to bypass Rom manager for the backup, or fix the backup/recovery which should fix the rom manager backup/compatibility whatever issues, Hopefully
HarryGN said:
1. i tried to install a new rom downloaded it and put it into phone & sd card.
2. i have tried to apply update from sdcared first i found it it seems to run fine but after that phone keep turning on seeing "galaxy s i9000 " and than showing it again in loop .
3. i can get into clockworkmod recover v 3.0.0.5 by pression those 3 buttons.
4 . when i plug it into the computer i cannot do anything with the data.
hope someone can help me.
and sorry if that is not connected to the thread
thanks~!.
p.s
my phone is rooted
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What do you mean the phone runs fine?? Did it ever boot up properly, as in get you to the home screen??
Have you tried reflashing the rom via recovery as you said it works...
If you use ADB you should be able to transfer back and forth, but there is a fairly long winded process to set it all up! However after this it should be easy..
If that doesn't work restore your backup which you should always make before flashing! (Im guessing your in this situation because you didn't do that? )
So if you don't have a back-up get an odin flashable rom either from stock firmware on sammobile.com or from the general forum where Ramad has made an extensive collection. Also you could flash DarkyROM 10.2 RE Odin ROM which is a custom rom and odin flashable..
I have heard frm sumwhere that we have to apply some update.zip two time to make cwm recovery working on sgs. Is it true ?
N which update .zip?
After reflashing kernel . Should ma rommanager detect recovery automatically or i have to do sum thing?
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n plz i dont want to bypass rom manager ,
i want to use rommanager , help me to make cwm recovery working thru rommanager .
i tried clearing data frm rommanager but it didnt helped .
dhillon7 said:
I have heard frm sumwhere that we have to apply some update.zip two time to make cwm recovery working on sgs. Is it true ?
N which update .zip?
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Have not heard of this... Sometimes you do have to flash roms twice that have kernals to avoid problems which may be what you are talking about. All custom kernals use CWM as it has many extra features. If you follow the instructions of the rom/kernal you should never have any problems.
dhillon7 said:
After reflashing kernel . Should ma rommanager detect recovery automatically or i have to do sum thing?
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It should work, possibly its a problem with the kernal I'm not sure. But I can say that every time i have installed and used Rom manager (I dont usually use it, so i uninstall it ) I have had to re-install CWM. What happens is i get a popup telling me to install the latest CWM, I then have to pick my device, I do so and then the pop up just disappears and all downloads are available to me. So in my case it doesn't even look like it installs anything as it doesn't reboot etc.
Soooo the answer is that it will probably tell you that you need to install the latest CWM, so just follow the prompts and if it installs the latest then great. Hopefully it will work after this. If it doesn't you may have to try a more recent kernal. If that still doesn't work, then use Odin to flash a rom.
Odin flashable custom rom that usually never fails for anyone This rom is usually recommended to people with problems. After this you should have CWM and be able to use Rom manager like it should be used
dhillon7 said:
n plz i dont want to bypass rom manager ,
i want to use rommanager , help me to make cwm recovery working thru rommanager .
i tried clearing data frm rommanager but it didnt helped .
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Why are you so attached to rom manager?? You think its safe? Probably agree but you may have to dump it for the first flash and then get back to it once you can get it working.. If changing kernals doesn't work then it may be your stock rom, and to change will either have to be odin or a zip via recovery...
Hopefully all goes well, Good Luck
REALISATION...
This is all because you cannot get a backup... If the above does not work then forget the backup and just flash the rom via rom manager. Because even if you have the backup you wont be able to use it as you don't have a CWM recovery right??
The apps i use for backup
App list backup
Sms backup and restore
titanium backup
Hi there,
I have a rooted N7000 running original Android v 2.3.6
I want to flash (test) it with a custom ROM.
I made a full backup of my current system (via CWM backup)
Now, when I flash a (new Android 4) custom ROM, will it then be possible to restore the old v2.3.6 image that I made, using CWM?
Other question: Do I need to take care of what type Kernal version I have
I have 2.6.35.7-N7000XXKKA-CL726566
Baseband-version is N7000XXkk5
Thanks for your reply.
Rene
jbin said:
Hi there,
I have a rooted N7000 running original Android v 2.3.6
I want to flash (test) it with a custom ROM.
I made a full backup of my current system (via CWM backup)
Now, when I flash a (new Android 4) custom ROM, will it then be possible to restore the old v2.3.6 image that I made, using CWM?
Other question: Do I need to take care of what type Kernal version I have
I have 2.6.35.7-N7000XXKKA-CL726566
Baseband-version is N7000XXkk5
Thanks for your reply.
Rene
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nothing to worry about, that is what backup is intended to do.
the only thing you have to watch that you're on safe kernel like philZ when wiping data in stock ics or jb (read sticky threads)
example: if you are on philz kernel and runing ics or jb, when you restore your backup of gb, you restore your gb kernel, system, data etc, just like backing home
djoni_gitara said:
nothing to worry about, that is what backup is intended to do.
the only thing you have to watch that you're on safe kernel like philZ when wiping data in stock ics or jb (read sticky threads)
example: if you are on philz kernel and runing ics or jb, when you restore your backup of gb, you restore your gb kernel, system, data etc, just like backing home
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OK, Thanks for the reply. So if I understand correctly:
1. I make a backup of my current ROM (Image via CWM) and put it in a safe place.
2. I can flash any custom ROM, and test/play with them.
3. Afterwards I can put back my old ROM again via CWM restore.
4. Reboot, and I'm back in the old state.
Is this right?
Can I flash ROMs by using CWM also (using zip files) or do I need to flash, using Odin?
I actually do not understand your remark about philZ, can you explain a bit more about what that means.
Thanks for your help so far
Rene
jbin said:
OK, Thanks for the reply. So if I understand correctly:
1. I make a backup of my current ROM (Image via CWM) and put it in a safe place.
2. I can flash any custom ROM, and test/play with them.
3. Afterwards I can put back my old ROM again via CWM restore.
4. Reboot, and I'm back in the old state.
Is this right?
Can I flash ROMs by using CWM also (using zip files) or do I need to flash, using Odin?
I actually do not understand your remark about philZ, can you explain a bit more about what that means.
Thanks for your help so far
Rene
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Since you are going to try custom rom, you need not to worry about emmc brickbug, since they will be using a safe kernel..but double check before flashing...so, if you are on Stock ICS kernel, you should NOT wipe/factory reset..if you do, you will brick your phone..you can just go through couple of sticky threads to know abt emmc brickbug, if you are not aware of that..whatever the steps you have mentioned above are correct..but when you flash a custom rom, follow the instructions mentioned in the Custom rom OP...
Shyam said:
Since you are going to try custom rom, you need not to worry about emmc brickbug, since they will be using a safe kernel..but double check before flashing...so, if you are on Stock ICS kernel, you should NOT wipe/factory reset..if you do, you will brick your phone..you can just go through couple of sticky threads to know abt emmc brickbug, if you are not aware of that..whatever the steps you have mentioned above are correct..but when you flash a custom rom, follow the instructions mentioned in the Custom rom OP...
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jbin said:
OK, Thanks for the reply. So if I understand correctly:
1. I make a backup of my current ROM (Image via CWM) and put it in a safe place.
2. I can flash any custom ROM, and test/play with them.
3. Afterwards I can put back my old ROM again via CWM restore.
4. Reboot, and I'm back in the old state.
Is this right?
Can I flash ROMs by using CWM also (using zip files) or do I need to flash, using Odin?
I actually do not understand your remark about philZ, can you explain a bit more about what that means.
Thanks for your help so far
Rene
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1. Yes, copy your /clockworkmod to your pc (just for double safety) dont cut it or move it, you need it on your internal sd card always, if you wanted to restore it again... and dont rename it (you will end up with message md5 missmatch!)
2. of course
3. Every new custom kernel like Philz kernel ( for ICS TW and JB TW) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
or hydracore (not working on TW JB, but works on all other) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863
have built in CWM 6.x.x.x , You can recognize them by the gray background in CWM recovery. (there is no need to install independet CWM or something else, like you do on your stock GB kernel)
They are built in almost every custom rom, and these kernel are safe for wipe.
3.1 . So if you flashed new custom TW ics or jb, and after playing with them, you want back to your nandroid backup, just go boot in recovery (now you see a grey background CWM6) do all the wipes (in my experience the best way is: (advanced > wipe dalvik cache, go back > wipe cache, then wipe/data factory reset, then go into mounts and storage > format cache,system,data and preload , dont format emmc and sd card. go back into backup/restore > restore from (internal sd card or some other place depends on where you place your backup)
4. of course, when youo see a message backup complete, reboot it
Hi
I have here a Galaxy Mini running stock Froyo 2.2.1 without an USB-cable.
My goal is to flash CM 9.
I rooted the phone with an update.zip containing Superuser.apk and the su binary. (I needed it for Titanium Backup)
I want to install CWM too but I can not use Odin (no USB cable). I downloaded CWM Touch 5.2.0.8 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439751, named the file update.zip and flashed it with the stock recovery tool. - This seemed to be sucessful.
But now the devie is stuck at the "Samsung" logo everytime I try to boot into recovery. Booting the normal Android works fine.
Is there a way to flash CWM without using Odin now? (probably using linux "dd")
I would like to have CWM before I flash CM9 beacuse I want to create a full backup first.
Edit: Ok...I might have overlooked that this CWM is for Gingerbread.
Thanks
flashing through stock recovery may not work
you have to use odin to flash the recovery
one more thing is that you cannot backup stock rom
you must upgrade to gb to flash cm9 (bootloader incompatibility)
lfrst05 said:
Hi
I have here a Galaxy Mini running stock Froyo 2.2.1 without an USB-cable.
My goal is to flash CM 9.
I rooted the phone with an update.zip containing Superuser.apk and the su binary. (I needed it for Titanium Backup)
I want to install CWM too but I can not use Odin (no USB cable). I downloaded CWM Touch 5.2.0.8 from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439751, named the file update.zip and flashed it with the stock recovery tool. - This seemed to be sucessful.
But now the devie is stuck at the "Samsung" logo everytime I try to boot into recovery. Booting the normal Android works fine.
Is there a way to flash CWM without using Odin now? (probably using linux "dd")
I would like to have CWM before I flash CM9 beacuse I want to create a full backup first.
Edit: Ok...I might have overlooked that this CWM is for Gingerbread.
Thanks
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A full back up of what ?
If you try to back up your current ROM app data, then restore it on cm, there'll be bugs potential.
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