Ok, kinda new to this android malarkey.
So if i reset to factory reset, will it remove my root access?
I did a search but i couldnt find anything specific to the KFHD.
No-one?? Just need a yea/ney...?
JaffAWooD said:
No-one?? Just need a yea/ney...?
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I am not positive but I would say , yes , you will lose root...
nimzp said:
I am not positive but I would say , yes , you will lose root...
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Ok, no worries. Thank you for your reply!
On a similar subject, can anyone recommend a good ccleaner-esque app for the KFHD?
Why u wanna losse root with out root kindle is trash
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esema1o said:
Why u wanna losse root with out root kindle is trash
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I think trash is probably a bit harsh..... but anyway i was asking so i DONT loose the root
I did reset to factory defaults and did not loose root. Some people on this forum say that you will. I asked exactly the same question before resetting and was told root will be gone. I had to reset so i had no other choice however tablet was still rooted. Google play store was untouched too. Maybe i was just lucky.
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So far have done a factory reset via the software option choice twice with root on the HD and have not lost it both times. If you do lose root as you have just Factory reset should not take that much time to put it back on the HD.
Superuser and the 'su' binary reside on the system partition.
On the original KFs, the stock 'factory reset' wipes the data and media (sdcard) partitions. On 2nd devices, there is no media partition, only one large data partition is used for both, so that gets wiped.
Wiping the system partition would leave you without an OS to boot to and with no way to restore it, so it is left alone, thus you keep your "root".
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."
soupmagnet said:
Superuser and the 'su' binary reside on the system partition.
On the original KFs, the stock 'factory reset' wipes the data and media (sdcard) partitions. On 2nd devices, there is no media partition, only one large data partition is used for both, so that gets wiped.
Wiping the system partition would leave you without an OS to boot to and with no way to restore it, so it is left alone, thus you keep your "root".
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."
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Erm,,, sorry. Please excuse my mild retardation...
Does that mean if i do, do a factory reset my root/gplay/SU files will still be there? (that that i took from what you said but wanted/needed to be sure!)
JaffAWooD said:
Erm,,, sorry. Please excuse my mild retardation...
Does that mean if i do, do a factory reset my root/gplay/SU files will still be there? (that that i took from what you said but wanted/needed to be sure!)
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Superuser and SU are untouched. Gplay, I'm not sure about...it depends on where everything is installed. I say that because on my 1st gen, where GApps were installed via recovery, the "com.android.vending.apk" is under '/data/app' rather than '/system/app' (not entirely sure why). The GApps.zip package itself doesn't contain a vending.apk so I'm guessing(?) that it's installed after the fact...but to be honest with you, I have no idea.
You should take a look in your '/data/app' folder to make sure there are no Gplay dependent or other necessary packages and make a backup of your data partition just in case.
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."
thanks for your help mate..
basically, i reset it and all is well!
What do you recommend for launchers...? Rocking GoLauncherHD at the mo and its pretty nice least i prefer it over EX.
Root and Google Play for Amazon HD and 2 Kindle Fire HD Software Version
JaffAWooD said:
Ok, kinda new to this android malarkey.
So if i reset to factory reset, will it remove my root access?
I did a search but i couldnt find anything specific to the KFHD.
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JaffAWooD,
Absolutely. When you perform a Factory Reset, everything in /system/xbin is reset to factory defaults.
The su binary is stored in /system/xbin.
You will have the false appearance of being rooted since the /system/app is kept intact, this is where
you will find Superuser.apk. Although, sometimes Factory Resets are needed to solve major issues
and re-rooting is not difficult:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117
I lost root after factory reset. But it was easier to root the second time. Be sure to be careful with what files you do/did change. I messed up some factory files because of tinkering before reset..
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prokennexusa said:
JaffAWooD,
Absolutely. When you perform a Factory Reset, everything in /system/xbin is reset to factory defaults.
The su binary is stored in /system/xbin.
You will have the false appearance of being rooted since the /system/app is kept intact, this is where
you will find Superuser.apk. Although, sometimes Factory Resets are needed to solve major issues
and re-rooting is not difficult:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117
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Hi,
Thank you for your reply. I have the feeling i have opened a can of worms here - i understood the (basic) defination of 'root' was the ability to get into the system/app folder to load apps/games/loaders etc, etc.. Is this not the case? because after the reset i can still do this using ES File Explorer..?
My brain is beginning to ache! lol I appriciate all the help though...
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JaffAWooD said:
Hi,
Thank you for your reply. I have the feeling i have opened a can of worms here - i understood the (basic) defination of 'root' was the ability to get into the system/app folder to load apps/games/loaders etc, etc.. Is this not the case? because after the reset i can still do this using ES File Explorer..?
My brain is beginning to ache! lol I appriciate all the help though...
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JaffAWooD,
No worries, we are here to help you. Ask as many times as needed until you obtain the answer you need. This
forum was not designed for all experts! To Root the Kindle - the term 'Root' is to give the user 'Superpowers'
which allows you to change the Kindles appearance, install Google Play Store, change the Graphical interface,
etc. When you have Superpowers or specifically Superuser Powers, you will be able to move or remove
programs in the /system/app folder. Now these Powers need to be used with cation since they can also damage
the Kindle if you remove the wrong program that is dependent on the Kindles primary operation. You can install
most programs and games without Root. It is the more advanced programs that may require 'Root Permissions'
to run. Read the description in Google Play Store, it will specifically say 'requires root to function'. Most
Launchers like Go Launcher do not need Root access to function properly. Google Play Store on the other
hand requires Root to install and function properly although most of the Google Applications can be
installed without root. One of the ones that does require root is Gmail since it is dependent on the
Sync Services which is installed directly into the /system/app folder. You will be able to use ES File
Explorer after the Factory Reset, although you will not be able to move or remove anything in
/system/app - does this help a little?
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Hey guyz, is it impossible to delete a file in /data or /system folders without root ?...Thanks
don't think so, that's kind of what root access does, gives you permission to do stuff that would be restricted otherwise, like deleting stuff from protected folders like /data or /system
actually... i've never had my phone unrooted except for the 5min that i had it before i rooted it... so I don't really know for sure.
It's impossible. For one, it'd be impossible to access without root, and even with root, you need to set it to read/write as Super User.
Deleting anything while it's running (which is most files within /system and /data) causes anarchy and chaos.
It probably wouldn't be a good idea to delete anything from that...if you need to make modifications, create a custom version of the ROM you're doing and flash it yourself.
Out of curiousity, why do you even need to delete anything from there?
lukekirstein said:
It's impossible. For one, it'd be impossible to access without root, and even with root, you need to set it to read/write as Super User.
Deleting anything while it's running (which is most files within /system and /data) causes anarchy and chaos.
It probably wouldn't be a good idea to delete anything from that...if you need to make modifications, create a custom version of the ROM you're doing and flash it yourself.
Out of curiousity, why do you even need to delete anything from there?
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Well lets say to clear the cache of apps...through an app cuz i know u can go app/man app/app/clear cache....i meant through an app.....
Can't you do that from Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, just click the app you want the cache cleared and I *think* there's a button for that.
h.nocturna said:
Can't you do that from Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, just click the app you want the cache cleared and I *think* there's a button for that.
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Although i mentioned the confusion in the previous post, is it applicable through an app ?
h.nocturna said:
Can't you do that from Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, just click the app you want the cache cleared and I *think* there's a button for that.
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He's right. Most Android 1.5-ready apps have a "clear cache" button in their menu in Applications. Others have the option within the App itself and, if need be, reinstalling the app clears out the cache as well.
Aight, n wht about deleting the cache of other apps ?
like what app? I thought all apps were listed under manage applications...
Daneshm90 said:
Aight, n wht about deleting the cache of other apps ?
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Settings-->manage applications-->look for app-->click-->should have clear cache option...
Nah guyz this thread is goin in wrong direction lol, i mean can one app delete the cache of another app w/o root ? i've had a g1 for about a yr....pretty sure i know how to clear cache lol
Daneshm90 said:
Nah guyz this thread is goin in wrong direction lol, i mean can one app delete the cache of another app w/o root ? i've had a g1 for about a yr....pretty sure i know how to clear cache lol
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don't know...never heard of an app that does that. Why not just obtain root?
I reset my phone to factory setting and now I am missing a couple apps. The 2 that I notice are the Market app and my GMail app. I've done a lot of research and can't figure out how to return these two apps. Anyone have any suggestions?
MDMontemayor said:
I reset my phone to factory setting and now I am missing a couple apps. The 2 that I notice are the Market app and my GMail app. I've done a lot of research and can't figure out how to return these two apps. Anyone have any suggestions?
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You can get both on the market's website.
how can he get the market without the market?
TRusselo said:
how can he get the market without the market?
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Market's website lol.. From your pc (or even using the browser on your phone)
Cmon Tru
yeah i tried that... no go. and the android market pushes to the market app..
no downloads that i see!...???
quote from android market downloading issues FAQ:
Android Market disappearing after Android 2.2 Update We're receiving reports from some users that the Android Market app is disappearing after receiving the Android 2.2 update. We're working with carriers and device manufacturers to resolve the issue and restore your access to Android Market.
In the meantime, if you'd like to resolve the issue immediately, we recommend performing a factory data reset on your device. Please note that this will reset your device to its original state, and while your media content (photos, music, etc.) will not be deleted from the SD card, applications and their related data will be uninstalled. To perform a factory reset:
Go to Home > Menu > Settings > Privacy
Press "Factory data reset"
Press "Reset phone"
Your phone will restart, and after everything resets you'll be able to access Android Market again. Note that in some devices the "Factory data reset" option may be located under a different menu item, such as Phone Storage.
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TRusselo said:
yeah i tried that... no go. and the android market pushes to the market app..
no downloads that i see!...???
quote from android market downloading issues FAQ:
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Wow that's weird
Ok well sorry, it worked for me on my friend's phone couple weeks ago
are you sure that wasnt "another market" something from another "planet" maybe?
TRusselo said:
are you sure that wasnt "another market" something from another "planet" maybe?
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Haha no, it wasn't.. Although, wondering if App brain has a website where it could be downloaded? And from App brain, download the Market app.
Just a though
wait duh...
ill just grab an apk out of a rom file...
extract and mount system RW
drop the 2 files in system/app/
unmount (RO)
reboot
im smarter after 4:20
TRusselo said:
wait duh...
ill just grab an apk out of a rom file...
extract and mount system RW
drop the 2 files in system/app/
unmount (RO)
reboot
im smarter after 4:20
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Can you explain this to someone that doesn't know what their doing? Also, did it work for you?
oh crap.. umm...
are you rooted?
and ive never lost it... so.. this might work... wont hurt...
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Can you explain this to someone that doesn't know what their doing? Also, did it work for you?
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TRusselo said:
oh crap.. umm...
are you rooted?
and ive never lost it... so.. this might work... wont hurt...
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You'll need Root Explorer to do that.
And you'll need root, like TRus mentioned.
41LY45 said:
You'll need Root Explorer to do that.
And you'll need root, like TRus mentioned.
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Or if you have ADB, you could extract the market and gmail .apk's and adb install them to your phone.
Good luck!
~Gemuse
yes it is rooted. I dont know what adb is, can you explain? I'll do some research also.
[Guide] Easy Adb setup with shortcut for noobs (pictures!) - xda-developers
15 Useful Android Terminal (adb Shell) Commands to Follow Gadgets DNA
that first guide is by me so hit the thanks...
or get a root file explorer program off the market for free,
get the app "SGS Tools" use it to "run script" > mount system RW
drop the apps in /system/apps/ with your explorer app
use "SGS Tools" again to "run script" > mount system RO
or buy the app root explorer. it has the RW RO button built in. so no run script....
or flash a custom rom..
or try a factory reset again...
^ A simple reflash of the ROM cleared up the problem of the missing apps for me.
Went from GR-12 to Subpression 3 and had the missin app problem...reflashed Subpression 3 and was good to go and then updated to 3.2 and no problems there either.
edit: I realize the OP said they reset their phone to factory settings, but I thought I'd leave my post anyway just incase someone flashed a custom ROM and experienced this problem.
I just had this issue after installing a theme and simply extracted the GR12 files on my SD card and installed the Market and vending apks.
I apparently posted in the wrong section (for kindle 2 in case anyone wants to delete that one).
I rooted my 7" Kindle fire HD shortly after getting it. To my surprise there was an automated program that did it for me so I didn't have to learn a whole lot. That was ~ 5 months ago. The big thing was to add the play store and a custom launcher which I did (apex launcher in case it matters).
Yesterday the only launcher available to me was the kindle launcher. I thought perhaps an update went wrong so I uninstalled and reinstalled the apex launcher via the play store. The launcher works, but I have to access it by going to the play store and clicking "open" on the app page (where you could install/uninstall the app). I searched how to install a launcher since I remembered taking different step other than just installing from the play store. The article mentioned going to app/data and when I do it says i no longer have root access.
I tried running the root program and I got a access denied message and root failed try again.
My question ends up being did I actually loose root access or is it something else? All I really need is to have the home button take me to the apex launcher and I wouldn't know anything had changed.
It was suggested that I run root checker (Thanks mindmajick). I did and it said Sorry, no root access. My software version 7.2.3 .
Any suggestions for a next step?
OK, this is no biggie. It happened to me. So if you don't have root access, but you still have play store installed, it's just a matter of rooting it again. But one last thing to check. Go to you file explorer or root explorer and go to " \" I am supposing you know how to do that. You get there by if using es file explorer leading up when you first open it.When you get to \, then you navigate to "system ".Then look file. A folder that is called "Xbin" and open it. If you have a file called "su " in it you are still rooted and I don't know what is going on. If you don't have it, then you just uninstall all things you added from the play store that are system files (optional. If younger like me a bit OCD them you should do it.) Then uninstall superuser and apex, and then reboot. Then root the kindle fire HD again. I suppose you know how to do that.
Please give me a thanks if I helped you, and if this doesn't work, I will see what else we can do.
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miztah1999z said:
A folder that is called "Xbin" and open it. If you have a file called "su " in it you are still rooted and I don't know what is going on. If you don't have it, then you just uninstall all things you added from the play store that are system files (optional. If younger like me a bit OCD them you should do it.) Then uninstall superuser and apex, and then reboot. Then root the kindle fire HD again. I suppose you know how to do that.
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There was not a file called su in the Xbin folder.
So if i'm lazy/busy I can uninstall superuser, apex and then reroot it? Do you know what happened and how it was caused? Is doing as you mentioned preferable to "restoring to factory default" as far as stability with any legacy fragments that will be left?
Sorry if these are beginner questions, but I've really only learned as much as I needed to to root my kindle (which wasn't much). On a related note, is there a post limit where you don't have to keep entering the captchas to post?
Reroot your kindle. Reset to factory defaults will leave some traces, and then you try to reroot it, you get a bricked kindle. just uninstall things manually, the super user application and leave the market on there, but uninstall apex. Then root it using binary tool and qemu. Root.
edit you have to uninstall super user and apex launcher and reboot the kindle. Then you territory it using said methods.
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miztah1999z said:
the super user application and leave the market on there, but uninstall apex. Then root it using binary tool and qemu. Root.
edit you have to uninstall super user and apex launcher and reboot the kindle. Then you territory it using said methods.
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Apex hung on the uninstall, meaning it said uninstalling for about 10 minutes. I rebooted and i was given the option to install it in the play store so I assumed it was gone. Superuser also removed. I tried rooting it using RootQemu. It gave me an error in the second step
"Step 2 - Expoiting...
/system/bin/sh: cannot create /data/local.prop: Permission denied"
OK. I want you to installation bin4y method. You run the run me in that, and make sure adb driver is working. After. Binary method your kindle will be slow and sluggish. That's OK. Run the qemu root and follow instructiona, and you should be fine
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Ok im on my computer now, i will type better. Download the Bin4y Rooting mehtod here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Then extract it, make sure adb is intalled by going to device manager and plug in kindel, make sure no yello or red exclamation points by Kindle fire or portable device. IMPORTANT: MAKE SURE YOU HAVE LATEST JAVA
THen run the "RunMe.bat" in the Bin4y root folder. Follow the instructions. After you are done with that, kindle will be slow and sluggish. PLug in again, and run Rootqemu method (the "bat" file" ) and follow instructions and if computer doesnt recognize the kindle after each reboot, unplug it and plug it back in. After qemu root done, check kindle for superuser app, and open your es file explorer. GO to settings, and root settings. Put a checkmark by EVERYTHING! and if a popup comes saying "Es file explorer root premission" something like that, click grant/allow. Then you are rooted!
Thanks if i helped.
Still nothing. When I ran the Bin4y is asked if I wanted to do a restore. While I was going wtf do I do now, it apparently timed out and did it anyway.
Once that was done I ran rootqemu and got the same error message: "Step 2 - Expoiting...
/system/bin/sh: cannot create /data/local.prop: Permission denied"
I appreciate your help!
Did you ever disable OTA (Over The Air) Updates? When you rooted the first time were you running 7.2.1 or 7.2.2? The updates will remove root. To me, that's what it sounds like. Someone will have an answer.... in fact, if you are willing to invest $13, you should check out both links in my signature. They would provide a permanent solution to your issue.
Good Luck!
Zuggel said:
Still nothing. When I ran the Bin4y is asked if I wanted to do a restore. While I was going wtf do I do now, it apparently timed out and did it anyway.
Once that was done I ran rootqemu and got the same error message: "Step 2 - Expoiting...
/system/bin/sh: cannot create /data/local.prop: Permission denied"
I appreciate your help!
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Do you have ADB drivers and Java the latest version installed? Any way, keep your KFHD unlocked when you are doing the "RunME" from Bin4y ROOT many android method. If you have ADB and Java installed, and your kindle is plugged in a USB 2.0 or 3.0 slot on your computer, you run Bin4y runme and watch for a popup on your kindle that says restore in the bottom left(i think). Press restore. Then after that is done its slow etc etc (in before post) if bin4y is done correctly qemu should run fine.
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Did you ever disable OTA (Over The Air) Updates? When you rooted the first time were you running 7.2.1 or 7.2.2? The updates will remove root. To me, that's what it sounds like. Someone will have an answer.... in fact, if you are willing to invest $13, you should check out both links in my signature. They would provide a permanent solution to your issue.
No, I never disabled OTA updates, apparently I should have read a little more than I did...but it worked for a couple of months after the update. I'm in no hurry for a fix...I was going to say I could try making one, but i'm not going to take the time right now for that :silly: . I might look into ordering one just in case.
Good Luck!
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miztah1999z said:
Do you have ADB drivers and Java the latest version installed? Any way, keep your KFHD unlocked when you are doing the "RunME" from Bin4y ROOT many android method. If you have ADB and Java installed, and your kindle is plugged in a USB 2.0 or 3.0 slot on your computer, you run Bin4y runme and watch for a popup on your kindle that says restore in the bottom left(i think). Press restore. Then after that is done its slow etc etc (in before post) if bin4y is done correctly qemu should run fine.
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Yes the adb drivers are installed and I have the latest java. I'm not sure if it was unlocked or not. I did not press restore, when that came up I was too busy going oh sh!t, what do I do now and then it did something on it's own. I don't think it restored it since it is not running slow. I will hopefully have time tomorrow to mess with it a little more.
Zuggel said:
Yes the adb drivers are installed and I have the latest java. I'm not sure if it was unlocked or not. I did not press restore, when that came up I was too busy going oh sh!t, what do I do now and then it did something on it's own. I don't think it restored it since it is not running slow. I will hopefully have time tomorrow to mess with it a little more.
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Be sure to click the restore next time. And it WILL be slow and sluggish. Then just remember to use QemuRoot method! THIS IS A MUST! YOU CAN"T DO SH*T ON YOUR KINDLE IF YOU DON'T DO THE QEMUROOT.
miztah1999z said:
Be sure to click the restore next time. And it WILL be slow and sluggish. Then just remember to use QemuRoot method! THIS IS A MUST! YOU CAN"T DO SH*T ON YOUR KINDLE IF YOU DON'T DO THE QEMUROOT.
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Seems to have worked, just got done with RootQemu and it said it was done. After the restore, I didn't have an pictures (icons, screen saver) which had me a little worried, they came back after step 3 though. Superuser is back on. Now to re-remember what I need to do now (adding turn off OTA updates to the list).
Thanks a lot for your help miztah!!
Krsmqn, i ordered one of those cables just in case I need it in the future. I figure for a few $ i would rather have it than not.
Zuggel said:
Seems to have worked, just got done with RootQemu and it said it was done. After the restore, I didn't have an pictures (icons, screen saver) which had me a little worried, they came back after step 3 though. Superuser is back on. Now to re-remember what I need to do now (adding turn off OTA updates to the list).
Thanks a lot for your help miztah!!
Krsmqn, i ordered one of those cables just in case I need it in the future. I figure for a few $ i would rather have it than not.
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No problem, I was in the same predicament as you a couple of weeks ago. Have fun with your rooted kindle! And be sure to disable Amazon OTA updates. Here is a link: (I would use method number 1 because you can use that utility for a while, and use it to fix a bricked Kindle, now that the bootloader has been cracked.) You don't really need that cable unless you are messing around with the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086450
Thanks for the link. The cable is already on it's way via a slow boat from china. Figure I will have it in a month
I am now having a problem with the apex launcher. I had the regular version before and was going to try the pro this time. I installed it and when I go to run it it says "Apex launcher has stopped". When I go to the app description page, it give me the option to force stop but not to uninstall. I tried reinstalling it same thing. I moved the apk file to /system/app and gave it user R/W, group & other read only. then installed. Do i perhaps need to manually delete something?
Try completely removing it from both system /application & data/ application (if applicable), save one to your sdcard. Then instead of clicking on the application to install, long press (on the one you saved to sdcard ) and choose move (to). Move the application to system /app. Do not install. Instead, long press and choose properties (at the bottom of the long press menu ). Change permissions to rw-r-r. Save. Do not Install. Reboot. You should see "kindle is upgrading" upon rebooting. When it's ready, you should have it as a launcher option.
Good luck.
Or you could just delete the apex launcher from system. /Application and the data/app . Then reboot, install apex from play store and move from data application to system application, and change properties to rwxrxr and reboot without installing. Kinda the same thing just a little change in beginning.
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I tried it that way you suggested Krsmqn, same thing, the error message saying apex launcher has stopped. I did not see a file to delete in the data/app folder unless it has an odd name.
miztah1999z said:
Or you could just delete the apex launcher from system. /Application and the data/app . Then reboot, install apex from play store and move from data application to system application, and change properties to rwxrxr and reboot without installing. Kinda the same thing just a little change in beginning.
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Seems to be working so far....I wonder if it was an issue because I was trying to use the pro version?
2 reboots and no issues!!
Zuggel said:
Seems to be working so far....I wonder if it was an issue because I was trying to use the pro version?
2 reboots and no issues!!
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So did you fix it my way or qrsmn way?
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So did you fix it my way or qrsmn way?
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I followed what you had said, d/l from the app store and moving it. When I was in settings it had a message in red about going to recently used apps and removing other loaders listed. I will check when I get home and see if it is still there.
Okay. So the weirdest, yet most annoyingness (them fake words, though) thing keeps happening. It's a pet peeve of mines to not have all my apps up to date. LoL!! So these 2 apps keep giving me the Insufficient Storage Available error.
It started off with PPSSPP ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.ppsspp.ppsspp ).
I can't update to the newest update. I have the previous one. I once ran Google Edition and it updated fine. I meant to make a backup and just restore it to be up to date. Grr!!
Then all of a sudden it started happening to The Hardest Game Ever 2 ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.orangenose.games ).
It's weird. I want them to update. LoL!! Yes, I have enough space. I mean all my other apps update.
I've wiped Dalvik Cache and Cache. I read over something once about deleting system logs? When these apps finishing updating I try wiping Market Data. Or maybe just wiping the Market cache. I don't feel. Maybe data. It wouldn't hurt anything.
And it's so weird. On my GS2, restarting usually fixed it, or the problem usually fixed itself. Hmm...
Anyone else ever run into this? What did you do to solve it or did it fix itself? This has been an ongoing problem. I know sometime before the GE phones came out. LoL!!
And as I type this a 3rd app has been added. Into The Dead. ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sidheinteractive.sif.DR ).
I can't have that. That's my game. LoL!!
To not make OP too long, here's some things I've done so far...
Deleted PlayStore Cache and Data...
Checked to see if ROM Toolbox Pro had Apps2SD set to Auto (and it as already on Auto)...
Wiped Cache and Dalvik Cache in recovery...
Deleted the app and tried to reinstall (Had to recover the app. LoL!!)...
Made SURE I had enough space. (I took a 6GB backup off my phone. I KNOW I have at least 6GB off the bat)
It's a slow growing list of apps. Hmm...
The only thing left is to backup apps and reinstall the ROM, since it works on other ROMs. *sigh* That'll take forever. =.S
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I have it fixed. Here's what I did. You NEED root to fix since you have to go to a system folder. I think you can do this without root if you use ADB commands. I don't know remember if the computer version of ADB can navigate to these folders. Anyways...
"Follow this and let me know if it works for you.
First step is go into a file explorer with root access. Second in the root directory click on data, once in the data folder click on app-lib folder. Last step is scroll down to the data folder for the app you are trying to update or install and delete it. Thrn go into the market and try to install"
http://www.techfreestyle.com/io
1st comment on the page.
Steps:
1) You will need root. Go into a file explorer and go to the root folder. (I used Root Explorer)
2) Open the directory named "data".
3) Open the directory named "app-lib"
4) Find ALL the folders of the app you're trying to update or install and delete them.
5) Reinstall or update the app and it should work
I don't know if this will delete the data of the app. I've already deleted the data manually from those apps, so I don't know. Do with caution.
also its just solve the app that u can't install , so its not solving the problem permanently.
Jwtiyar said:
also its just solve the app that u can't install , so its not solving the problem permanently.
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You're right. It happened again. But this time these apps had data. The method I mentioned didn't delete the app data. So that's good.
But this means it can happen again. Its a bit tedious deleting them files. I wonder what's causing it. Hmm... Maybe these lib files are suppose to delete on their own, but they don't. =./
IDK...
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Hello, I bought my Nexus 6 from Amazon (US version) unlocked. I joined Project Fi which requires installation of the Project Fi app. Now I am leaving Project Fi going back to Verizon but I cannot remove the Project Fi app. I'm only able to uninstall all updates, and disable the app. Clearing the cache, disabling the app with SIM removed, rebooting with no SIM, etc. Nothing removes it. I also tried to remove it via the Play Store by holding on it and removing it with the X at the upper right. Well there is no way to select it in the play store, it can only be "enabled".
Project Fi support is of course useless. I know this app did not come on my phone unless it was hidden in a system partition until activation?
Any ideas on how to remove this app totally? I want to get it removed so I can get back on Verizon without it causing issues trying to interact with the SIM. Thank you
wats6831 said:
Hello, I bought my Nexus 6 from Amazon (US version) unlocked. I joined Project Fi which requires installation of the Project Fi app. Now I am leaving Project Fi going back to Verizon but I cannot remove the Project Fi app. I'm only able to uninstall all updates, and disable the app. Clearing the cache, disabling the app with SIM removed, rebooting with no SIM, etc. Nothing removes it. I also tried to remove it via the Play Store by holding on it and removing it with the X at the upper right. Well there is no way to select it in the play store, it can only be "enabled".
Project Fi support is of course useless. I know this app did not come on my phone unless it was hidden in a system partition until activation?
Any ideas on how to remove this app totally? I want to get it removed so I can get back on Verizon without it causing issues trying to interact with the SIM. Thank you
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sure, its very easy, but you need root to remove it, since its a system app. just use a root file explorer to find it in /system/app/, then delete it and reboot. when you boot up, it'll be gone. or, you can perform a factory reset, then boot up first time with your Verizon sim in the phone. then the app will go back into hiding in your system partition.
simms22 said:
sure, its very easy, but you need root to remove it, since its a system app. just use a root file explorer to find it in /system/app/, then delete it and reboot. when you boot up, it'll be gone. or, you can perform a factory reset, then boot up first time with your Verizon sim in the phone. then the app will go back into hiding in your system partition.
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Thank you sir. Just so that I am clear: I need to obtain root via this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
which will wipe the device. I can then use any root file explorer app to delete the system/app/folder
It's been a while since I've worked on phone but I've been rooting/flashing since the OG DROID. I just want to be very clear before I wipe my device. Thank you again for any clarification.
wats6831 said:
Thank you sir. Just so that I am clear: I need to obtain root via this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
which will wipe the device. I can then use any root file explorer app to delete the system/app/folder
It's been a while since I've worked on phone but I've been rooting/flashing since the OG DROID. I just want to be very clear before I wipe my device. Thank you again for any clarification.
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well.. yes and no. root has slightly changed since 6.0.1. and i mean slightly.
1. unlock your bootloader(which will wipe your device, so move what you need to your computer). boot up once after this as well.
2. flash the twrp recovery to your phone via fastboot.
3. flash any nexus 6 custom kernel with twrp(new step)
4. flash the latest SuperSU zip(for root)
5. reboot.
the custom kernel will let you obtain root, its needed in there as of 6.0.1. oh, then don't delete the /system/app/ folder, delete the google fi app folder with its apk inside. otherwise you'll delete all your system apps.
simms22 said:
well.. yes and no. root has slightly changed since 6.0.1. and i mean slightly.
1. unlock your bootloader(which will wipe your device, so move what you need to your computer). boot up once after this as well.
2. flash the twrp recovery to your phone via fastboot.
3. flash any nexus 6 custom kernel with twrp(new step)
4. flash the latest SuperSU zip(for root)
5. reboot.
the custom kernel will let you obtain root, its needed in there as of 6.0.1. oh, then don't delete the /system/app/ folder, delete the google fi app folder with its apk inside. otherwise you'll delete all your system apps.
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Ok. So do I still obtain root with the fastboot procedure linked in the FAQ? If not, can you link to a current guide for unlocking the bootloader and flashing the TWRP. I'm also not sure where to get a custom kernal, or which one. After that I think I got it. Thanks.
wats6831 said:
Ok. So do I still obtain root with the fastboot procedure linked in the FAQ? If not, can you link to a current guide for unlocking the bootloader and flashing the TWRP. I'm also not sure where to get a custom kernal, or which one. After that I think I got it. Thanks.
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you can always check if you have root by downloading and installing a terminal emulator app from the play store, then open it and type su. if you have root, it'll return a #
simms22 said:
you can always check if you have root by downloading and installing a terminal emulator app from the play store, then open it and type su. if you have root, it'll return a #
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I don't have root, I've never touched this phone. I'm just trying to make sure I understand the correct way to obtain root in 6.0.1. Your post made it sound like maybe that guide I linked wasn't the current way?
wats6831 said:
I don't have root, I've never touched this phone. I'm just trying to make sure I understand the correct way to obtain root in 6.0.1. Your post made it sound like maybe that guide I linked wasn't the current way?
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no, it is the correct way. I just added that a kernel has to be flashed as well. but chainfire might have fixed that, I heard that a few hours ago. if he did, then the method is correct. I rooted over a year ago, my n6. so its been a while :angel:
I understand. Thank you for making that clear. I can't even root due to USB driver issues...not sure why. I followed the steps exactly.
I've switched to SuperSU 2.66, so I've just checked it, and you don't need a custom kernel for it anymore, just flash ir frim TWRP.
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simms22 said:
sure, its very easy, but you need root to remove it, since its a system app. just use a root file explorer to find it in /system/app/, then delete it and reboot. when you boot up, it'll be gone. or, you can perform a factory reset, then boot up first time with your Verizon sim in the phone. then the app will go back into hiding in your system partition.
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So I unlocked, and rooted with Wugster and SUperSU. I booted first time with my Verizon SIM and project Fi app is still there. I can see it in my apps list, but i can't see it in the system/app/ any clue where it is? thanks.
It's in #/data/user/0/com.google.android.apps.tycho
somewhere but i can't find it
wats6831 said:
So I unlocked, and rooted with Wugster and SUperSU. I booted first time with my Verizon SIM and project Fi app is still there. I can see it in my apps list, but i can't see it in the system/app/ any clue where it is? thanks.
It's in #/data/user/0/com.google.android.apps.tycho
somewhere but i can't find it
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it has a weird name, not fi. its like tycho or something similar. if you look into that folder, its there.
simms22 said:
it has a weird name, not fi. its like tycho or something similar. if you look into that folder, its there.
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ok looking in that folder, i see nothing in any subfolder except for a file called "Switching.xml"
Should I delete the whole tycho folder?
The ProjectFi app is "Tycho"
You can also remove GCS (Google Connectivity Services). Only ProjectFi uses it for joining open wifi networks and the Google VPN, among other things. Totally useless unless you're a Fi'er.
Gandalf said:
The ProjectFi app is "Tycho"
You can also remove GCS (Google Connectivity Services). Only ProjectFi uses it for joining open wifi networks and the Google VPN, among other things. Totally useless unless you're a Fi'er.
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So to be clear should I delete the whole Tycho folder? I don't want the app to show up at all in my app list.
Can GCS be removed or does it have to be deleted in /system/app? thanks.
wats6831 said:
So to be clear should I delete the whole Tycho folder? I don't want the app to show up at all in my app list.
Can GCS be removed or does it have to be deleted in /system/app? thanks.
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You can delete it but I would recommend either Disabling it in Settings > Apps or using Titanium Backup to freeze it. Assuming you're running stock, mounting system rw will cause issues with verity