Maybe someone has already asked or addressed this issue but is there an unlock or something other than a dev account to be able to side load apps? Homebrew, no piarate or illegal apps.
Not yet that I am aware of (I have been following this forum to see if/when). No custom ROMs yet either.
LiFePo4 said:
Not yet that I am aware of (I have been following this forum to see if/when). No custom ROMs yet either.
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Posted this in the Arai section since I know that AT&T removed the ability to install non market apps but Since I'm always in this section, I figured I'd put it up herel. It could be of use to some people here in the Magic section aswell.
msgnyc said:
Like the title says. Jerry Hildenbrand over at AC has made an open source program for windows which allows for the sideloading of apps.
Thought I'd inform the Aria users since AT&T removed this ability from the stock rom.
Incase anyone here hasn't rooted yet, Works with non roted devices aswell.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
DL Link > http://images.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/downloads/AC-SWM-v1.0.zip
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Im sorry but I Didnt see a thread dedicated to this feature. I apologize in advance if this has been covered elsewhere.
Y!S
All roms are flashed via CWM unless they say to do it differently in their thread. CM7 is about the only one that's not done this way.
Nobody gives install instructions anymore since it should be common knowledge if you did your research.
Also, this is NOT a development question. We have a Q&A section for these types of questions.
all custom roms come with CWM built into the kernel.
once you have a custom rom you DONT USE rom manager anymore.
also this is the DEVELOPMENT section.
DO NOT POST QUESTIONS HERE!!!
questions go in Q&A
axis01 said:
All roms are flashed via CWM unless they say to do it differently in their thread. CM7 is about the only one that's not done this way.
Nobody gives install instructions anymore since it should be common knowledge if you did your research.
Also, this is NOT a development question. We have a Q&A section for these types of questions.
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Trusselo said:
all custom roms come with CWM built into the kernel.
once you have a custom rom you DONT USE rom manager anymore.
also this is the DEVELOPMENT section.
DO NOT POST QUESTIONS HERE!!!
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you guys are misunderstanding his question, ROM manager is capable of sending out OTA's for individual ROM's if the ROM creator implements this feature. as far as I know, there are yet to be any ROM's that use this in the Captivate section, though please tell me if I'm wrong. CM7 will use this feature once it's capable of using ROM manager through a properly functioning param.ko
as for you two, no need to be so aggressive/rude. you didn't answer his question properly and were a bit extreme in your judgment toward him. but as for you OP, they are correct in that this isn't truly related to development and is more suited to "General" or "Q&A" from now on.
my point was nobody uses rom manager after stock anymore.
if someone cant properly post, they wont get a full complete answer
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my point was nobody uses rom manager after stock anymore.
if someone cant properly post, they wont get a full complete answer
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Hey TRusselo you have gone beyond making it known that I posted in the wrong section but no matter how I look at your answers you still come across as a big fat jerk. There isnt any need whatsoever for you to post that.. and then to come back and repeat yourself with another entry saying the SAME thing and MAINTAINING the attitude.. you got my attention.
Kaik541 did answer my question. I was wondering if any devs have used this feature in rom manager. For over the air updates.
As to the reason why I posted in the DEVs section was because i thought that it was a development question. ROMS updated over the air thru ROM MANAGER is implemented by DEVELOPERS. It stands to reason why i have not seen any notes in any DEVELOPERS release and that is apparently no DEVELOPERS are using this feature. I hope that I made it understood as to WHY I posted in the dev section. I am now more familiar with the rules so I do beg your pardon for posting in the wrong place.
Nightly builds that can be updated over the air seems like it would really be something that a DEV would utilize with all the tweeks contently done to these roms. I for one look forward to having such a useful tool.
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Nightly builds that can be updated over the air seems like it would really be something that a DEV would utilize with all the tweeks contently done to these roms. I for one look forward to having such a useful tool.
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Nightly builds aren't considered updates. They are made so the flash happy people have something else to play with and test for the devs. They aren't meant for everyone to use as DD's. Utilizing this feature for nightlie's would end up with TONS of questions from newbs that don't know how to fix what they just did.
This has been brought up a few times and to be honest with all the possible issues that could come across from OTA updates like flashing a bad file cause you lost connection for a split sec and didn't notice, I wouldn't use it. The first att OTA update proved this. Thousands of bricks, then it was released by Kris update. Alot less bricks.
hello i heard from someone that we can flash kernels directly with our phones without using a flashtool , is that even possible ??!!!
OK, here goes,
If you heard that from another phone sub-forum, then yes your corretc, but if you heard it from this sub-foum, then no, its not possible
There was a discussion about it not long ago (i even joined the party ) but it was just a general discussion about it, and maybe in the near future it will happen, but for now, we are stuck with flashtool
what you heard about, was flashing kernel with ROM package via ClockWorkMod (CWM). hopefully, it will be possible but for now, im afraid not, but stay tunned for future
oh thx for your great and detailed explanation i think i'm not the only one who hope something like that to happen afterall
wilbso said:
OK, here goes,
If you heard that from another phone sub-forum, then yes your corretc, but if you heard it from this sub-foum, then no, its not possible
There was a discussion about it not long ago (i even joined the party ) but it was just a general discussion about it, and maybe in the near future it will happen, but for now, we are stuck with flashtool
what you heard about, was flashing kernel with ROM package via ClockWorkMod (CWM). hopefully, it will be possible but for now, im afraid not, but stay tunned for future
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Acudor said:
oh thx for your great and detailed explanation i think i'm not the only one who hope something like that to happen afterall
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your welcome
yes, lots of people are hoping this will happen (including me ) ;D;D
I hate to sound so new build asking this question but with all the variants and threads kind of combining I'm a little confused. I'm not new to xda or rooting or installing ROMs to Samsung devices and have searched but am not getting quite the confirmation I'm looking for.
I see that anyone with the g950u can get root now and that's awesome but are ROMs device specific between all the different variants? I see there is atleast one room that's says g950u in the title of the thread can anyone clear this up for me please?
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I hate to sound so new build asking this question but with all the variants and threads kind of combining I'm a little confused. I'm not new to xda or rooting or installing ROMs to Samsung devices and have searched but am not getting quite the confirmation I'm looking for.
I see that anyone with the g950u can get root now and that's awesome but are ROMs device specific between all the different variants? I see there is atleast one room that's says g950u in the title of the thread can anyone clear this up for me please?
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The U.S. devices (g950u) still have a locked bootloader - the first piece of software executed when you power on. Being locked means that it (the CPU) is looking for a specific key (the public signature) embedded in that code before it continues loading the code _ one that only Samsung/Verizon has authorized. To change that public signature yourself, you need the other half of the key (the private key) and that is akin to asking Samsung for all its source code to every device it makes -- never going to happen!
It will only continue the boot process if the signatures match for the next part (basically the ROM) of the code. A custom ROM won't match that signature, so the bootloader won't execute the ROM code. Having 'root' means you have control over everything software related in the ROM *after* it is booted into the ROM - meaning you're already past the whole signature part.
Unless someone finds a backdoor or security flaw that can be exploited on the bootloader (unlikely), or Samsung (or more likely Verizon) gives us a program to unlock the bootloader (even less of a chance), we won't be seeing any ROMs for the g950u. So, do like I did and shut off all the Samsung gunk (I use all of Google's apps because they behave the same way on every device I own - I can't stand Samsung apps or TouchWiz!) that you can, load Nova and set it up to behave the way YOU want it to work. Then just enjoy what you have!
Thank you for your answer I will root and try to make it more like Google
Great post rhricik! Best explanation I've heard in a while.
From what rhricik posted, it sounds like one can't root because the bootloader is locked in the Verizon version?
Are the bootloaders locked on the AT&T and T-Mobile versions?
charter3554 said:
Great post rhricik! Best explanation I've heard in a while.
From what rhricik posted, it sounds like one can't root because the bootloader is locked in the Verizon version?
Are the bootloaders locked on the AT&T and T-Mobile versions?
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Yes, all US variants have a locked bootloader.
charter3554 said:
Great post rhricik! Best explanation I've heard in a while.
From what rhricik posted, it sounds like one can't root because the bootloader is locked in the Verizon version?
Are the bootloaders locked on the AT&T and T-Mobile versions?
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All snapdragons are bootloader locked. Except the Chinese model
goddi2010 said:
I hate to sound so new build asking this question but with all the variants and threads kind of combining I'm a little confused. I'm not new to xda or rooting or installing ROMs to Samsung devices and have searched but am not getting quite the confirmation I'm looking for.
I see that anyone with the g950u can get root now and that's awesome but are ROMs device specific between all the different variants? I see there is atleast one room that's says g950u in the title of the thread can anyone clear this up for me please?[/QUOT
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goddi2010 said:
I hate to sound so new build asking this question but with all the variants and threads kind of combining I'm a little confused. I'm not new to xda or rooting or installing ROMs to Samsung devices and have searched but am not getting quite the confirmation I'm looking for.
I see that anyone with the g950u can get root now and that's awesome but are ROMs device specific between all the different variants? I see there is atleast one room that's says g950u in the title of the thread can anyone clear this up for me please?
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goddi2010 said:
Thank you for your answer I will root and try to make it more like Google
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Cyclone Emperor said:
Yes, all US variants have a locked bootloader.
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TheMadScientist said:
All snapdragons are bootloader locked. Except the Chinese model
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goddi2010 said:
I hate to sound so new build asking this question but with all the variants and threads kind of combining I'm a little confused. I'm not new to xda or rooting or installing ROMs to Samsung devices and have searched but am not getting quite the confirmation I'm looking for.
I see that anyone with the g950u can get root now and that's awesome but are ROMs device specific between all the different variants? I see there is atleast one room that's says g950u in the title of the thread can anyone clear this up for me please?[/QUOT
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Just came here to ask if this was possible. I remember with the us versions of the Samsung this is the way we did it. I don't need custom ROMs or anything. Is this possible?
Hi, that's not possible. If you use Google you'll find all you need to know.
blackspp said:
Hi, that's not possible. If you use Google you'll find all you need to know.
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what is the interest of the forum then?
This question has been asked many many times before. Just go to any Samsung ROM topic on XDA or google the topic. Many brands now make it difficult or impossible to root without unlocking the boot loader.