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I have seen a similar question posted elsewhere but there was only one reply, I thought I would pose the same here instead. Since the Zune runs on Win CE, I was wondering if anyone has given any serious consideration into extracting and modifying the firmware. It would be great if xda-developers could branch out to this side as well.
The Zune def. needs some help, I have one now with about a half inch of dust on it. I would rather use my phone then the Zune haha
Officially we try to keep this forum on HTC produced devices only (with occasional exception due to XDA brand use).
So no special sub forum for Zune.
But since we don't beat with a stick people who come here looking for help with other devices (just look at all the threads about WM 6 on Dell) it is possible someone here will do some work on it and publish the results a some point.
It mainly depends on the popularity and availability of the device.
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The Zune def. needs some help, I have one now with about a half inch of dust on it. I would rather use my phone then the Zune haha
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I fancy owning a Zune myself. I'm not really an apple fanboy, but my iPod does everything I want it to. How is it usability wise? When I got my iPod I never needed to read the manual because the interface is so intuitive. I've got the 30GB model, bought it for slimness
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I fancy owning a Zune myself. I'm not really an apple fanboy, but my iPod does everything I want it to. How is it usability wise? When I got my iPod I never needed to read the manual because the interface is so intuitive. I've got the 30GB model, bought it for slimness
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It works fine except the software is a joke. Its worse then iTunes.
What ever happened to simply dragging and dropping what ever songs you want into the device and be done with it. Now it has all this sync sh!t
if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
Same Ram
Pre2 OMAP3630 Vs Nook Color OMAP3621
I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
Thanks
Piotr
piotrbartkowiak said:
if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
Same Ram
Pre2 OMAP3630 Vs Nook Color OMAP3621
I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
Thanks
Piotr
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In Theory yes it could be done.....
In Reality, with out the Source code, not alot can be done to get this ported over.
I just wont to try. I need to say my Palm Pixy Plus is one of my favorite phones but it seems it wont be updated any further, and HPalm announced today this TPad only problem for me is 9,7".
7" is my favorite form factor for tablets but Android 2.1 feels limited. 3.0 is not there yet.
Its the best time to play around with my Nook but as I'm saying havent had much luck yet, well I have a cool name WebNook.
Do not bother
WebOS is a copywrited OS. It would be illegal, immoral, and very near impossible to do. HP bought it for over a billion dollars, so they will protect it. Android is "good enough" for the NOOK.
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I just wont to try. I need to say my Palm Pixy Plus is one of my favorite phones but it seems it wont be updated any further, and HPalm announced today this TPad only problem for me is 9,7".
7" is my favorite form factor for tablets but Android 2.1 feels limited. 3.0 is not there yet.
Its the best time to play around with my Nook but as I'm saying havent had much luck yet, well I have a cool name WebNook.
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Yeah 2.1 is rather limited, but keep in mind that soon CM7 will be out for the nook with I think 2.2 or 2.3 and it will be much better, and as far as 3.0 goes we don't even have the official release or source yet, the build people are playing with is the SDK Preview release, which is far from fully Honeycomb.
So there is still plenty of Growing room in the nook.
There was a group of people in the CDMA hero forum that attempted to port WebOS to the Hero. I think they got it working but stopped due to copyright. I searched for the thread using both the XDA search and google. It looks like XDA removed it.
I'm not trying to justify myself from trying (still unsuccessfully, and I dont want to make any money from it) to port WebOS to my Nook but what I remember Windows Phone is copywrited OS too and this whole Portal is build around people who are making new roms, and porting new aps to devices. Plus theres nothing better to learn on than something that you shouldn't.
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There was a group of people in the CDMA hero forum that attempted to port WebOS to the Hero. I think they got it working but stopped due to copyright. I searched for the thread using both the XDA search and google. It looks like XDA removed it.
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I'm pretty sure that was deleted because it was a Fake.
Lol I even found a story about it at PreCentral
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I'm pretty sure that was deleted because it was a Fake.
Lol I even found a story about it at PreCentral
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I remembered the thread, did not know it was fake. I really did not follow the thread just scanned it really quick. Thanks for the info.
I found this link on my bing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401&page=58
but cant acces it because I dont have 10 posts yet.
piotrbartkowiak said:
I found this link on my bing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401&page=58
but cant acces it because I dont have 10 posts yet.
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You can't access it because it was deleted, not because of post count.
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You can't access it because it was deleted, not because of post count.
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Thanks for checking it out for me.
WebOS is linux and if Nook can run one it mean it can run more, need to reed more how people ported Ubuntu and other Androids than 2.1
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Yeah 2.1 is rather limited, but keep in mind that soon CM7 will be out for the nook with I think 2.2 or 2.3 and it will be much better, and as far as 3.0 goes we don't even have the official release or source yet, the build people are playing with is the SDK Preview release, which is far from fully Honeycomb.
So there is still plenty of Growing room in the nook.
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2.3 is what they are working on. When that releases, not only will we get all the 2.3 goodness, we get rid of all the B&N garbage. That's what we're all waiting with baited breath for.
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2.3 is what they are working on. When that releases, not only will we get all the 2.3 goodness, we get rid of all the B&N garbage. That's what we're all waiting with baited breath for.
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I really like the B&N Library Software and the Ability to Purchase Books on the device, Granted the B&N Launcher is junk, But I like the Library App, Maybe we can rip it off and still use it?
I did just try Aldiko, which is very nice, But I like the Easy of Syncing my library with the B&N Library that comes with the Nook Color, Its also far Superior to the nook app of the Market which is laughable.
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I really like the B&N Library Software and the Ability to Purchase Books on the device, Granted the B&N Launcher is junk, But I like the Library App, Maybe we can rip it off and still use it?
I did just try Aldiko, which is very nice, But I like the Easy of Syncing my library with the B&N Library that comes with the Nook Color, Its also far Superior to the nook app of the Market which is laughable.
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I recently tried Aldiko also, and quite like it. It seems pretty superior to barnes and noble reader. The only downside, as you said, is losing the simple sync with B&N. I'm sure people would come up with a simple enough work around though. I personally don't buy books from them, so it's not too much of a concern for me. perhaps they could be synced with the nook app in the market and then once downloaded could be added to the Aldiko library?
just thought I would post for anyone interested in a possible port, 2.1 SDK was just released
developer dot palm dot com / blog / 2011 / 03 / the-webos-2-1-sdk-is-now-available /
webOS on the NC would be quite tricky..... no keyboard
piotrbartkowiak said:
I'm not trying to justify myself from trying (still unsuccessfully, and I dont want to make any money from it) to port WebOS to my Nook but what I remember Windows Phone is copywrited OS too and this whole Portal is build around people who are making new roms, and porting new aps to devices. Plus theres nothing better to learn on than something that you shouldn't.
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The Windows Phone Roms are for phones that are licensed to run said OS. You won't find a WP7 ROM for the NC for example, because it's not licensed to run it. You could probably get your mitts on the SDK, hack around and get WebOS kind of, sort of running on the NC, but there is no way you could make any argument that it was legal.
I used to have a Palm Pre Plus, and besides the factory defects of 3 units, I wasn't really impressed with the OS either.
For me nothing beats my Nexus One. So having my Nook run CM7 is way more enjoyable.
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WebOS is a copywrited OS. It would be illegal, immoral, and very near impossible to do. HP bought it for over a billion dollars, so they will protect it. Android is "good enough" for the NOOK.
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yep, we got in trouble for trying to put it on the hero lol
OMG!! The first ever Best Looking Phone by Nokia is this N9
seriously WOW what a design.
this will really Kick ass of iphone.
want to see more click here
http://swipe.nokia.com/
For demo video click here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfE3B6L-Otw
Clich here for WP7 Nokia Phone Full Video please open this site using Google translate
http://www.technet.hu/telefon/20110624/exkluziv_video_elop_bemutatja_az_elso_windowsos_nokiat/
it looks like a giant ipod nano
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What the hell is MeeGo? Does it even have any apps? Unless Android can be installed on it, its worthless.
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Never heard of Meego? And you're calling yourself a geek/nerd. GTFO!
i think LG Meego handset will come first before this Nokia N9.
But seriously i m amazed by this Design, first time By Nokia.
As we all know How much hype created during N8 this seems far more better than N8
this will decrease Nokia's Falling reputation.
Best of Luck Nokia.
This is getting Pre installed Angrybird, Wifi hotspot, USB on the go, 3.9 inch AMOLED screen
16 gb/ 64 gb version , but why Micro sim support
Full Specification here
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-3398.php
Meego is an Open Source Project and some developer has already
ported Meego on Nexus One and other devices with snapdragon processor similar to Nexus one .
Its a dead horse, but nokia tries to ride it...
I have to admit that it looks pretty good, too bad it comes out so late.
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Of course I've heard of meego! But I don't think it has any chance against Android and others... Nokia should have just used android on it's smartphones.
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Agree, but Android won't happen. WP7 on the other hand would be better than MeeGo - much better.
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Yeah, WP7 is good. I might even buy a Nokia WP7 when it comes out, just for the lolz...
The problem with Nokia is that it's too stubborn and old fashioned. Good they signed a contract with Microsoft though, at least they have one REAL OS on their smartphones.
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The "REAL OS" part made my day.
TBH, it's a breath of fresh air. Kinda love the pentaband 3G radio in the phone.
For the apps. Now where's that alien Dalvik thing.
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Methinks that I might consider it if it comes in silver, and Android. It's MeeGo, how hard would it be to flash a new ROM?
I guess it'll be pretty easy. But time will tell!
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What the hell is MeeGo? Does it even have any apps? Unless Android can be installed on it, its worthless.
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I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
MeeGo doesn't really matter. When the phone comes out, the main question will be "When will somebody put CyanogenMod 7 on it?" Notice I didn't use "how" or even "why". It's a when. And WHEN that floodgate opens... we just might have a bonafide camera phone.
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I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
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For apps i think here is the preparation...
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/39841/nokia-n9-might-run-android-apps.html
I had a Nokia N900 for a while. Good phone, really good developer community. It's just a shame that they've stuck so firmly to their own OSs for so long. If they're going to go WP7 that's a step in the right direction but android would win them a lot of good favour.
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I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
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IMO it's much easier to write apps for MeeGo than Android. MeeGo uses the cross-platform (read: porting of desktop KDE apps to the mobile has already started) Qt Framework, which has a really nice API (Qt Mobility espacially for smartphones). It's really a joy to use this toolkit. All your developed applications can run on your desktop OS (Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and on your phones and tablets (Android, MeeGo, iOS port is currently developed..).
I'd love to see a port of this OS to some (more) Android phones. I tried to run it under my Desire HD, but I can't get the software rendering to work.
now i think i got the reason to purchase this phone
http://www.gsmarena.com/alien_dalvik_will_let_you_run_android_apps_on_the_nokia_n9-news-2813.php
nos in veins said:
now i think i got the reason to purchase this phone
http://www.gsmarena.com/alien_dalvik_will_let_you_run_android_apps_on_the_nokia_n9-news-2813.php
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Hehe, i love cross-platform frameworks. It's also possible to run application which were developed for MeeGo/Symbian under Android.
intresting UI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSZssHGR-Qg&feature=related
Nice, torn between this phone and the Nexus 3 now.
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Been an N7 owner for months and it's been a freakin' delight. It has exceeded my (demanding) expectations and has earned the #1 spot for my go-to device whenever I need to do anything online, or do anything digital for that matter. My Galaxy Nexus sits on my desk relegated to it's role as a phone, and my laptop is almost never used at all.
I run it bone stock, locked and un-rooted. It's fast, reliable and a hands-down joy to use. When I think that I paid $199 for it, it just broadens my smile just a bit more.
Just wanted to spread a little love here.
Agreed 100%. I still use my gnex alot because the screen is just a pleasure to look at.
Only downside is the lack of color calibration, mines a little yellowish.
I ordered the dock from the play store and it will be here today so in sure I'll just use it more now.
Def root it. Easy and the ROMs out are awesome.
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I gotta say.. Paranoid Android made me love my N7 that much more.
Another agree ...rooted but mostly stock 4.2.2 ..the IPad sits idle most of the time.. I did install Hosts and have root explorer, etc.
I have been all over rooting my GNex - right from the start - and it still is, running a great ROM, latest radios, etc.
But, my N7 remains untouched and for some reason, I like it that way. I use Nova to provide a little customization from a launcher perspective, but otherwise, there's nothing else I am jonesin' for.
Never thought that a tablet would provide any utility for me, especially since I have such a cool customizable phone with a big screen, and a laptop for when I need that bigger screen with a keyboard. But somehow, the N7 squeezed in there and bumped 'em both out of that space.
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I have been all over rooting my GNex - right from the start - and it still is, running a great ROM, latest radios, etc.
But, my N7 remains untouched and for some reason, I like it that way. I use Nova to provide a little customization from a launcher perspective, but otherwise, there's nothing else I am jonesin' for.
Never thought that a tablet would provide any utility for me, especially since I have such a cool customizable phone with a big screen, and a laptop for when I need that bigger screen with a keyboard. But somehow, the N7 squeezed in there and bumped 'em both out of that space.
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The dock is sick!
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The dock is sick!
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I need to take another look at that.
Same here once I got the N7 I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and haven't missed it at all. Unlocked and running AOKP with lean kernel.
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Same here once I got the N7 I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and haven't missed it at all. Unlocked and running AOKP with lean kernel.
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as ya'll ...lol can see from my sig ive been a long time lover of android, but yes they nexus was the first "first class" device i had , i did have a galaxy ace 1 and a gs1 but now...the almighty nexus, update safe and stable. never had a reason to go past root/unlock, but loving it im prized everyday by the capabilities :highfive:
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as ya'll ...lol can see from my sig ive been a long time lover of android, but yes they nexus was the first "first class" device i had , i did have a galaxy ace 1 and a gs1 but now...the almighty nexus, update safe and stable. never had a reason to go past root/unlock, but loving it im prized everyday by the capabilities :highfive:
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I second this!
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chismay said:
as ya'll ...lol can see from my sig ive been a long time lover of android, but yes they nexus was the first "first class" device i had , i did have a galaxy ace 1 and a gs1 but now...the almighty nexus, update safe and stable. never had a reason to go past root/unlock, but loving it im prized everyday by the capabilities :highfive:
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I second this!
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I third & fourth this!
Forgot to mention...
Besides my Gnex and laptop being relegated to 2nd and 3rd string status as my go-to devices, I've noticed that I also fire-up my TV much less.
Even though I can watch all the shows I want on my laptop, there's something about the 7" size of the N7 that makes it the perfect thing to grab when I want to park on the couch and watch a show. Frankly, I never thought I would even use a tablet this much, and if the N7 wasn't such a freakin' joy to use, I def would still sitting with my laptop.
Did I say?
I love this freakin' thing.
AW: I Love This Freakin' Thing...
I'm fighting with lawyers to make the marriage with my nexus 7 legal.
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I too am surprised at how much I love this thing (32Gb purchased locally) I need almost nothing else for consumption. Since I've gotten a hold of this thing all I've really used my PC for is transcoding movies to copy over to the Nexus 7.
The other surprise is how well it works as a Kindle. Why anyone would buy the Amazon branded tablet is a mystery to me. I haven't so much as touched my second gen 6" Kindle in over a month.
I just wish it had infrared...
First time on this site in quite a while. I'm off to find out what's cool to put on my N7!
love mine, root Paranoid android,trinity kernel ,6000 in benchbark
Root it!
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I have been all over rooting my GNex - right from the start - and it still is, running a great ROM, latest radios, etc.
But, my N7 remains untouched and for some reason, I like it that way. I use Nova to provide a little customization from a launcher perspective, but otherwise, there's nothing else I am jonesin' for.
Never thought that a tablet would provide any utility for me, especially since I have such a cool customizable phone with a big screen, and a laptop for when I need that bigger screen with a keyboard. But somehow, the N7 squeezed in there and bumped 'em both out of that space.
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I also have a N7 and love it as well
I run completely stock like you
However, with wugfresh
It's a 1-click to unlock
And another click to root
Furthermore both can be undone with 1 click as well
But just being able to make a nandroid backup alone is enough reason to root
Plus there are several "must have" apps for rooted devices only
So I strongly suggest you reconsider
Run stock... But too easy not to root
I also have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (7.0)
I have to say the color seems so much better
But there's nothing like a Nexus :victory:
AW: I Love This Freakin' Thing...
The N7 is definitely a best buy. I have the 16GB version. Sure, vibration would be nice for gaming, but I don't really mind. A better camera would also be nice, but, hey! The only alternative I would consider would be the 32GB UMTS (?) version.
just got my nexus 7 a week ago this past friday and i love the thing mine is unlocked and rooted but runs the stock os i have stick mount and a otg cable so i can more memory along with mx player which is a great player
Months later, I am driven to dredge-up this old thread.
Gotta say it again - I still love this freak'in thing!
Snappy performance, beautiful screen, long battery life, wonderful build quality, 100% reliable. It is still my go-to device for just about everything.
Never rooted. Bone stock.
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Months later, I am driven to dredge-up this old thread.
Gotta say it again - I still love this freak'in thing!
Snappy performance, beautiful screen, long battery life, wonderful build quality, 100% reliable. It is still my go-to device for just about everything.
Never rooted. Bone stock.
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New user and I agree with you totally. It's really a brilliant device. When I read the OP I was totally expecting the "but..." :silly:
Whatever happened to this? It's almost 2014 and there are no signs of any progression. I was hoping to see this get released even if it wasn't 100% perfect. I'm still a fan of WebOS and it would be great to have even an inkling of Android functionality in it.
there is a 92 page topic about it here http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/324645-pic-kick-starts-touchpad-open-mobile-acl-92.html
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there is a 92 page topic about it here http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/324645-pic-kick-starts-touchpad-open-mobile-acl-92.html
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Wow, what a sad state in the project. I feel bad for anyone who preordered or donated to that kickstarter. It's too bad the entire thing wasn't just an open source side project by a developer and released step by step to the public to debug.
Quite honestly, the HP touchpad still has enough computing power to survive. The only problem is its antiquated software. Looks like WebOS style battery use with Android apps running nicely is more like a dream now. What a shame.
i remember when the project started. i was always wary b/c emulators are never as fast as the real thing. glad i never paid them especially since it seems like people won't be getting a product or refunds. i think a better idea would have been to try to port some of the best features that webos had into android. i still miss the multitasking cards for example.
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i remember when the project started. i was always wary b/c emulators are never as fast as the real thing. glad i never paid them especially since it seems like people won't be getting a product or refunds. i think a better idea would have been to try to port some of the best features that webos had into android. i still miss the multitasking cards for example.
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Its really sad to see how badly this project turned out, I feel terrible for everyone who invested time and money into it. Like yourself I'm well aware of the limitations of emulation and I was highly critical about the few video clips this company released. I have my own little emulation Mod for Playing PC games on Android and had some serious doubts after watching short video clips of angry birds. Its easy to get high hopes for something like this but with such incredible developers giving us native Android support, I just feel lucky to own one either way:victory:
However you can still have that WebOS style App switching experience with this Cool Mod by Tbob18, Click here:
After watching this video people routinely ask me if it will run BF4, Crysis3 and Skyrim
RolandDeschain79 said:
However you can still have that WebOS style App switching experience with this Cool Mod by Tbob18, Click here:[/URL]
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oh yes, i'm aware it exists. but i was thinking more of a universal mod or launcher, something compatible with more than just the touchpad.
theres this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobilemerit.wavelauncher but i don't think it emulates the function of webos multitasking cards
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Whatever happened to this? It's almost 2014 and there are no signs of any progression. I was hoping to see this get released even if it wasn't 100% perfect. I'm still a fan of WebOS and it would be great to have even an inkling of Android functionality in it.
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Finally released and I purchased a copy. Sorry that I did as the performance was terrible.
Ended up using Touchpad tool kit and installed KitKat with great results.