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WM 6.1 and group (multiple recipient) txt msg burden

I've come across an burdening issue sending a txt with multiple recipients. Though the grouped chat style text messaging is an incredible advantage, there are some cons and i'm wondering if they can be fixed somehow.
Because of the chat style text messaging, your first outgoing message gets coped to your inbox. Is there any way for the first outgoing message to NOT be copied to your inbox?
This poses an issue for when you are sening a mass/group text message. For example, if i send out "Happy New Year" to 50 people in one text, i get 50 outgoing copies in my inbox.
Suggestions?

It doesnt really get copied, The threaded sms app just shows that you started a conversation with those recipients. I do see what your saying though, and i guess it can get somewhat annoying having all those open conversations in your inbox, BUT now you only have those 50 or so threads in your inbox as opposed to (like me) thousands of messages to scroll through. Plus as an added benefit you can see who replied in an orderly fashion. I for one would like the option to turn sms threading on/off, but I guess this is progress...

theformula said:
It doesnt really get copied, The threaded sms app just shows that you started a conversation with those recipients. I do see what your saying though, and i guess it can get somewhat annoying having all those open conversations in your inbox, BUT now you only have those 50 or so threads in your inbox as opposed to (like me) thousands of messages to scroll through. Plus as an added benefit you can see who replied in an orderly fashion. I for one would like the option to turn sms threading on/off, but I guess this is progress...
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Well as much as i love it, i would like to see that the program doesn't show the started conversation on the first initial text message. It should show it when they reply. This would solve the group text messaging issue

marscandybars said:
Well as much as i love it, i would like to see that the program doesn't show the started conversation on the first initial text message. It should show it when they reply. This would solve the group text messaging issue
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I totally agree, maybe someone with more skills than I can look into this and corrosponding registry keys?

theformula said:
I totally agree, maybe someone with more skills than I can look into this and corrosponding registry keys?
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If it's even something that can be edited... might be part of the program's code.

I'd like to be able to move the messages into another folder but cant seem to find out a way to do it as the option isnt highlighted

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SMS restricted to 160 characters?

Seems SMS messages are restricted to 160 characters on my Diamond, anything over and it goes into a second SMS. Is there a way to extend this?
I've searched the forum, but I couldn't find a solution... either that or my searching skills are nil points

even if you changed it on your end. the received phone would still split the message.

You sure? I don't understand. I could type bigger texts than this on my old phones. Isn't there new versions of SMS that support more characters that have been out for a few years now? Or am I missing something?

hoolak said:
You sure? I don't understand. I could type bigger texts than this on my old phones. Isn't there new versions of SMS that support more characters that have been out for a few years now? Or am I missing something?
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It is called email
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service

SMS is restricted to 160 characters each message. That isn't something with the Diamond but a limitation of the protocol -always, on every phone-. that's why it is called SMS: "SHORT message service".
Most modern phones, including the Diamond, are sending multiple messages to overcome this limit. In most cases the receiving phones are able to combine those segmented messages.
So, perhaps some settings (on you Diamond, or more likely on the other end) are mixed up.

So I just ignore the fact I can type text messages over 160 characters on my old LG/Sony phones without having to send two messages and get used to the fact my futuristic Diamond can't?

aaah, maybe it's an optical illusion. I just feel I'm having to send shorter text since getting this phone. Maybe I should reduce my font text size to help me from feeling/seeing things lol. Excuse my loco'ness.

As I said, your Diamond will overcome this restriction by dividing your text in seperate messages, you have to do nothing, just type what you want to type. If you are not able to do so, search for any relevant settings. I guess your Diamond isn't much different from mine, and mine is intelligent enough to do the job on its own.

Yeah, it will go over 160. So, if I do, the recipient will receive two (or more) text messages?

hoolak said:
Yeah, it will go over 160. So, if I do, the recipient will receive two (or more) text messages?
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Techically: yes. But he/she also did with messages send with your old phone. It all depends on the phone and settings used by the recipient if it actually shows up as seperate messages or if they will be combined again.

cheers. I shall put it to the test by text my girlfriends phone! Huzzah!

Succes! (and as this forum has a restriction of AT LEAST 10 characters, I type some nonsense as well )

Just send an MMS, its cheaper than two SMS (at least with my german contract) and you can send 300KB of text. That should cover even the longest short message ;-)

Well my phone contract allows me unlimited text messages (sms). I just didn't want to confuse ppl with my 2 part texts.

I did the test. Sent a text 180-odd characters long (Diamond said '2 messages').. received on a Sony Ericsson all contained in 1 text message. Damn you Diamond for making me flap.

You really don';t get it do you?
When you had to pay for your sms, you'd get really expensive.
Technically, in the 'mobile phone world', a SMS-message CAN NOT BE longer than 160 characters.
Not a single phone can do that.
So when your girls phone sais 1 message, it cleverly combines your 2 sent messages.
Send it to a ericsson t28

No, I really didn't get it, but now I do thanks to my thirst for knowledge and the helpful people of this forum.
Sorry if my lack of SMS protocol knowledge appauled you

How come SMS change to MMS?

How come when the sms message gets too long, it will be converted to MMS? How do I solve this problem?

bryant_16 said:
How come when the sms message gets too long, it will be converted to MMS? How do I solve this problem?
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I think your confused.. Im going to assume your trying to send a picture and it says its too large so its converting it to an mms right?

Actually, he's right. On my G1 when I hit so many characters (usually by the end of the 3rd set of 160) it changes to MMS. The reason it does this is so the network can better handle the message. Sending as 3 seperate texts would take more time for the network to submit, store, and resend, than 1 MMS message would.

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How come when the sms message gets too long, it will be converted to MMS? How do I solve this problem?
I think your confused.. Im going to assume your trying to send a picture and it says its too large so its converting it to an mms right?
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No he isnt confused, when you sent a text that goes over a certain amount of characters it converts it into a mms, i dont think you can stop it from converting it but what you can do is send multiple text massages under the conversion limit

Oh okay, so there is nothing I can do about it?

Not really no. Just when you get to a certain limit and the counter appears showing how many characters you have left, just send it, and start on the next one

Send shorter messages, send an email or IM...
SMS converts to MMS when it gets 3 messages long..it has a character count so stop right before it converts and send it and continue in a new text

ok you want to rid this problem but i would like my tilt to do this aoutmaticly, any way?

Yeah, download HandCent SMS application. It will solve this application.

Text messages disappeared / gone

Hi there,
First of all, my sincere thanks for having such a great forum. I've always been able to find all the solutions to problems by looking here. Until now...
There always has to be a first time for everything
Anyway. My problem:
Yesterday evening i was text-messaging with a my girlfriend. At one point I received a text message from her, and as I tapped the notification message to open the text, I noticed that all her other messages (and mine) had disappeared. They were gone.
Funny thing is, when ever I look at the sent messages, I can still see all the messages I've sent to her. But when looking at the message history between her and me, I only see the message that were sent after that specific message.
Now my question is, is there a way to retrieve these messages? I have been looking on this forum, but haven't seen such like post as mine. I also tried looking on google, but no luck what so ever, except for the rare post on a random forum saying it's not possible to recover them?
I just hope that there is a way you guys might be able to shed a light on this matter, as it would mean a great deal if I could recover these messages.
Also one more thing that I noticed. with all the other text conversations I have with some other friends, I see the first 5 / 6 messages. After that I get the option to see the older messages, which also include 5/ 6 message and so on and so on.
This also used to be the case with the messages between my girlfriend and me.
But since that so called killer message, I'm seeing all the messages in the same threat instead of the last 5 / 6 ones.
Maybe that this last piece of information helps you guys.
Anyway, thanks for reading in advance, and thanks for any help you guys might provide.

[Q] SMS Forwarding

Is there an app available that will allow you to forward a received SMS thread from one phone to another.
I have spent hours on Google Play and there are tons of "forwarding" apps but they are "all or nothing". In other words, they will send all incoming sms messages from one phone to another, but I want to forward a thread that I have already received from my phone to someone else. Kind of like forwarding an email. I know I can open the thread, long press on a text message and forward just that text, but I want to be able to forward the entire thread. Is that even possible?

TayzGpa said:
Is there an app available that will allow you to forward a received SMS thread from one phone to another.
I have spent hours on Google Play and there are tons of "forwarding" apps but they are "all or nothing". In other words, they will send all incoming sms messages from one phone to another, but I want to forward a thread that I have already received from my phone to someone else. Kind of like forwarding an email. I know I can open the thread, long press on a text message and forward just that text, but I want to be able to forward the entire thread. Is that even possible?
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I know it used to be possible but duno anymore. I did a little search but couldn't come up with much. In the mean time, you could delete all the other threads and use the ''all or nothing'' app? Just an idea.
I'll post back if I find more.