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I frequently use the nexus one as a hotspot/network for me and my friends to play LAN games. and until now it would be only 4 of us. a few days back we tried to connect 6 of us, but it didnt work. apparently the hotspot has a limit of 5 devices. seems a bit weird, since i assumed it would be an even number..
is there anyway to change the maximum number of devices?like altering some configuration value?
and please dont tell me to buy a proper wireless access point, because i know that is a solution, and i just want to see if i can continue and use about 6 computers with my nexus one first before buying an AP
I believe T-Mobile said their hotspot thing is limited to 5 connections by default.
I'm not on T-mobile,but on Three, Australia. But i guess if T-mobile said that, and I've experienced 5 being the maximum then I guess it must be five. wonder whether there is some hack to get aroudn it..
I'm using tnt lite 3.1.4, also had vegan, but none could do anything with my 3g sticks. Following different forums, I see most devices can (at least some specific sticks). Has anyone managed to set up a 3G conection? Is there a how to I could follow? What chipset the stick had?
Thanks,
T.
I tried a sprint usb aircard.. no go..
The only way I have been able to get a 3G connection is to wirelessly tether to my DroidX work phone...
1) Install Z4root on the droid and run it to root the phone
2) Install wifi tether on the droid and set up a wep key and ssid
3) Turn on the wifi tether
4) The table sees this wifi "router" or connection, I set the wep key on that connection, the two units negotiate an IP, and zap, it has 3G through the droid
Not sure if this is helpful, but that is what I had to do in my own situation.
if it's in the kernel, it should seriously work, but someone has to build it. there's absolutely no reason for this not to work if someone builds it -- it has conceptually worked in linux for years.
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if it's in the kernel, it should seriously work, but someone has to build it. there's absolutely no reason for this not to work if someone builds it -- it has conceptually worked in linux for years.
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I can build the kernel but I believe we need to add some stuff in initrc for the usb to connect to serial (like ttyUSB). Once I get another Gtab, I'll look into this.
clemsyn said:
I can build the kernel but I believe we need to add some stuff in initrc for the usb to connect to serial (like ttyUSB). Once I get another Gtab, I'll look into this.
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Please do -- this is the one feature I'm dying to have! I promise a (small, sigh) donation once it's done
Here's the extra scripts I need to wired-tether my cheap T-mobile prepaid phone to my linux netbook:
http://blog.swatteksystems.com/what...ether-huawei-u7519-wind-mobile-linux#comments
THANKS!
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I can build the kernel but I believe we need to add some stuff in initrc for the usb to connect to serial (like ttyUSB). Once I get another Gtab, I'll look into this.
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exactly man, thanks for stepping up! this will be ultimately useful on many different devices with usb host features, and shouldn't be ridiculously difficult to get going, and gain some real cred with the tablet community, especially now as we're the first with this new tegra2 platform, with over 20-30 new devices coming soon. i'm unsure of how many are wifi-only, but the ability to merely jack in with a 3g/4g usb modem would be ultimately useful to many, and will save a ton of money for folks.
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I can build the kernel but I believe we need to add some stuff in initrc for the usb to connect to serial (like ttyUSB). Once I get another Gtab, I'll look into this.
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A kernel supporting the 3g sticks would be great I have 3 of them, so I am ready for testing
T.
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The only way I have been able to get a 3G connection is to wirelessly tether to my DroidX work phone...
1) Install Z4root on the droid and run it to root the phone
2) Install wifi tether on the droid and set up a wep key and ssid
3) Turn on the wifi tether
4) The table sees this wifi "router" or connection, I set the wep key on that connection, the two units negotiate an IP, and zap, it has 3G through the droid
Not sure if this is helpful, but that is what I had to do in my own situation.
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Thanks for that. I also use teether from my NexusOne, but I have to give it up as I got to move to BlackBerry - so I need a different solution... (what a step backwards :-(
T.
The stick is probably seen in the kernel. The other parts, Networkmanager, dialier, ppp are not on the tab. They would have to be recompiled for the arm processor and I'm not sure what other work is needed.
Thanks Clemsyn. Using your latest kernel with Vegan B5.1. I bought a Novatel USB727 (Verizon) stick off ebay (built in Linux support) just to try this out. Would gladly test if needed.
I would also be happy to test with ATT and Verizon 3G USB modems...
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Built a kernel with 3g USB support, used my friend's Verizon Mifi, plugged it in the Gtab and it turns on, Dmesg shows it is detected as Novatel wireless and shows it's serial info. That's about it, can't browse and use it. Any ideas?
I'll try my usb modem using the ubuntu load. It should have the other networking parts to dial and connect.
In the ubuntu load, networkmanager is not supported yet so usb modems are still on hold.
Yes please, we need this. I have a sprint card from work and would love to ditch the laptop when travelling. Clemsyn, I could send you a copy of sprint smart view 3g manager if you think it would help.
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I am able to use 3G easily using MyWi app from Cydia on my iPhone. This Gtablet works great on 3G! And since I always have my phone on me, I always have a 3G network on my Gtablet! iPhones basically suck, but this is probably the only good thing I've been able to use it for! And man oh man, its working great! Btw, When my phone contract runs out, I'm going to change to the Evo! That would be sweet!
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I am able to use 3G easily using MyWi app from Cydia on my iPhone. This Gtablet works great on 3G! And since I always have my phone on me, I always have a 3G network on my Gtablet! iPhones basically suck, but this is probably the only good thing I've been able to use it for! And man oh man, its working great! Btw, When my phone contract runs out, I'm going to change to the Evo! That would be sweet!
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Same here. I've been using Wireless Tether on my rooted Droid X with an unlimited 3G data plan for several weeks and it is pretty sweet. And like you said, since I have my phone with me all the time anyway, this seemed like an obvious solution.
I would be interested in the progress of this usb effort since my carrier now offers 4G modems.
Does anyone have any idea if the gtablet will tether to the blackberry
Here Made support for a similar tablet Toshiba Folio 100:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10617881
Perhaps our main problem - is that excluded from the firmware application for telephone calls?
Short Story: Is there anyway to make the nexus start working without WiFi?
Long Story: Sherman, set the Way-Back Machine for about a month ago. So there I was the day of the Google I/O conference refreshing the google play store over and over again until the moment I could order my Nexus 7. Needless to say I ordered it the minute I could. Today I recieved my Nexus 7. It took a while to get here. I picked it up from the mailroom three hours ago. I let it charge and turned it on. First screen asks for my country. Second screen says searching for WiFi. And there I sit because , I don't have WiFi. Is there a workaround for this? Or do I have a $250 paperweight, until I get home later this year?
I can't be the only one with this problem.
Resources available to me:
1) I have a laptop that is connected to very slow internet (ethernet, not wireless). It has USB ports, but I don't think theres a way to share internet through USB. I can not attach a wifi router to this network.
2) I have WiFi where I sleep, but I need to open a browser and put in a username and password to log in. I don't think that will work because I can't get to the web browser part of this.
My last resort is to mail it back home to have family activate it and then mail it back to me. Kind of absurd. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Josh
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ATTN TROLLS: before replying and looking stupid, make sure to read the whole thread. The problem has been resolved. I even explained how I resolved it for other people with potentially the same problem. I have also clearly explained why I bought the Nexus 7. A tablet is a tablet. Without WiFi it still lets me read books, play games, do Sudoku puzzles, and watch episodes that I bring back on a USB thumb drive. I used it to replace my Nook Color running CM7. I have enough WiFi back in my room to browse the web and check my email.
Thanks to everyone that offered constructive help.
To the trolls, I hope you get pushed down a slide of razors into a pool of acid.
Does the laptop ha e wifi, if so you can share the wired internet connection wirelessly via connnectify
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Go to Starbucks or McDonalds, Lol
You wouldn't happen to have a neighbor with an open network you could leach off of do you?
That seems like a serious oversight if this is the case.
If you have Windows 7: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9739/turn-your-windows-7-laptop-into-a-wifi-hotspot-with-connectify/
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Anyone have any suggestions?
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Find and use some nearby wi-fi ?
hullbay said:
Go to Starbucks or McDonalds, Lol
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This, seems easy enough. Go get a coffee
Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
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Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
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Or this. But hey, go grab a coffee, then root.
I had wifi and it still couldn't detect it when i turned it on! I panicked and i sat there at the first screen bevause there was no option to manually enter wifi settings. My network has secure and ssid off, but couldn't even see neighbours (ssid on).
But I tethered insecure net from phone to get past first screen. Should be able to borrow a friend's internet this way, it doesn't download much.
I have no idea how you plan to use the n7 w/o wifi, at least during setup, it is in terms of service...
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Not sure if this still works, but you used to be able to bypass activation by touching all four corners of the device. Top left, top right, bottom right, and bottom left.
I tried the four corners thing. It didn't work. Unfortunately there are no McDonalds or Starbucks near me. I only have these two networks to work with. I bough it to replace my Nook (CM7), which I use to watch episodes of TV shows. I bring the mSD card to work, and put episodes on it, then bring it back to the room and watch them till I fall asleep. With the Nexus I was intent on copying my episodes over through the ethernet cable by day, and taking it back to the room to watch them at night. I guess I'll have to keep watching my shows on my Nook. Sucks. New toy is useless.
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Does the laptop ha e wifi, if so you can share the wired internet connection wirelessly via connnectify
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This would work. Unfortunately I can't connect anything wireless to this network. I might try to sneak this solution. This is the second to last resort. Thanks for the advice/idea!
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Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
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I haven't seen any instructions on how to root the device prior to initializing it. Is it possible?
Thanks,
Josh
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I tried the four corners thing. It didn't work. Unfortunately there are no McDonalds or Starbucks near me. I only have these two networks to work with. I bough it to replace my Nook (CM7), which I use to watch episodes of TV shows. I bring the mSD card to work, and put episodes on it, then bring it back to the room and watch them till I fall asleep. With the Nexus I was intent on copying my episodes over through the ethernet cable by day, and taking it back to the room to watch them at night. I guess I'll have to keep watching my shows on my Nook. Sucks. New toy is useless.
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I take it u can't skip the sign in like on phones, if u have no way of getting on a wifi network, you can possibly try to kill the setup process via adb...its not really a google oversight, its 2012 WiFi networks are rather easy to find.
I guess I'm just lucky enough to be where they aren't easy to find.
I just tether from my phone
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I have no cell phone coverage here. Although I might be able to use my cell phone to connect to the wireless back at the room, use the cell phone web browser to log on, then tether it to my Nexus. That might work. I'll try that tonight.
gijosh28 said:
Short Story: Is there anyway to make the nexus start working without WiFi?
Long Story: Sherman, set the Way-Back Machine for about a month ago. So there I was the day of the Google I/O conference refreshing the google play store over and over again until the moment I could order my Nexus 7. Needless to say I ordered it the minute I could. Today I recieved my Nexus 7. It took a while to get here. I picked it up from the mailroom three hours ago. I let it charge and turned it on. First screen asks for my country. Second screen says searching for WiFi. And there I sit because , I don't have WiFi. Is there a workaround for this? Or do I have a $250 paperweight, until I get home later this year?
I can't be the only one with this problem.
Resources available to me:
1) I have a laptop that is connected to very slow internet (ethernet, not wireless). It has USB ports, but I don't think theres a way to share internet through USB. I can not attach a wifi router to this network.
2) I have WiFi where I sleep, but I need to open a browser and put in a username and password to log in. I don't think that will work because I can't get to the web browser part of this.
My last resort is to mail it back home to have family activate it and then mail it back to me. Kind of absurd. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Josh
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use a WIFI dongle to attach to your laptop. make it a hotspot using "connectify" software and connect your nexus to it. your laptop must have internet access.
setup aside, how did you plan on managing files etc on the n7 long term without wifi?
Seems there are other products more suited to your needs if you aren't going to use any online or network features.
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I've successfully set up my Chromecast with my Gnex hotspot and my Galaxy S 4G, and Netfilx and Google Play Music stream perfectly: however, Youtube and Google Play Movies and TV is tricky: it takes too long to load when it works. I got a Youtube video to work but only once. Tabcasting works but it lags. I think we need a thread that troubleshoots this type of problem, but if I'm wrong, please disregard this thread. If it's needed, please share your experiences here. The screenshots I'm attaching is my current setup (I switch my one sim card between phones): in this case, my Galaxy S 4g is the hotspot, my Gnex is MyPhone, MT6451 is my laptop #1, VPCM11AX is laptop #2, FranciscosiPhone is my iphone, and the Azurewave Tech is (I'm assuming) Chromecast.
Update: gnex as hotspot, s 4g as source with Aircast streams movies from SD card.
Aircast link: https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/G3jF2JynLc2
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I've successfully set up my Chromecast with my Gnex hotspot and my Galaxy S 4G, and Netfilx and Google Play Music stream perfectly: however, Youtube and Google Play Movies and TV is tricky: it takes too long to load when it works. I got a Youtube video to work but only once. Tabcasting works but it lags. I think we need a thread that troubleshoots this type of problem, but if I'm wrong, please disregard this thread. If it's needed, please share your experiences here. The screenshots I'm attaching is my current setup (I switch my one sim card between phones): in this case, my Galaxy S 4g is the hotspot, my Gnex is MyPhone, MT6451 is my laptop #1, VPCM11AX is laptop #2, FranciscosiPhone is my iphone, and the Azurewave Tech is (I'm assuming) Chromecast.
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May I ask how you managed to get this thing to work? I've tried multiple methods for Wifi tethering using the Galaxy Nexus and all have failed. I have tried Wifi Tether 3.4 and the stock tethering option. The errors include, AP Isolation needing to be turned off, UPnp not configured, and no connection. Once I do eventually get connected, its slow and just kicks off while trying to reload. Are there any additional settings in the wifi tether app that need to be addressed? Any help would be great. Thank you.
No need for apps. I'm running cm10.2 on my gnex and 10.1 on my galaxy s 4g. Try to setup with the chromecast app but don't change the Chromecastxxxx network name. That is one problem. The next problem is "connection failed" due to password. That's fine. Double check your gnex password and try again. If you get try again just press cancel and you'll be set. It's a bit tricky but I've done it several times with both phones. If you get stuck, let me know and I'll post a video or something.
After I pressed cancel, I was set up. The first time I did it, I didn't know I was set up until I noticed the app said "Ready to Cast." Then, after resetting the Chromecast to troubleshoot some problem, I realized that changing the ChromecastXXXX name is the main problem.
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I've successfully set up my Chromecast with my Gnex hotspot and my Galaxy S 4G, and Netfilx and Google Play Music stream perfectly: however, Youtube and Google Play Movies and TV is tricky: it takes too long to load when it works. I got a Youtube video to work but only once. Tabcasting works but it lags. I think we need a thread that troubleshoots this type of problem, but if I'm wrong, please disregard this thread. If it's needed, please share your experiences here. The screenshots I'm attaching is my current setup (I switch my one sim card between phones): in this case, my Galaxy S 4g is the hotspot, my Gnex is MyPhone, MT6451 is my laptop #1, VPCM11AX is laptop #2, FranciscosiPhone is my iphone, and the Azurewave Tech is (I'm assuming) Chromecast.
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I'd hide those MAC addresses if I were you. Not that we're neighbors or anything ;p
Yeah I use my One's hotspot to connect the two as well. Funny my LTE is faster than my router.
PcFish said:
I'd hide those MAC addresses if I were you. Not that we're neighbors or anything ;p
Yeah I use my One's hotspot to connect the two as well. Funny my LTE is faster than my router.
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LOL! I thought about that but got lazy. Are you able to stream YouTube and Google Play Movies and TV with your hotspot?
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LOL! I thought about that but got lazy. Are you able to stream YouTube and Google Play Movies and TV with your hotspot?
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Yeah, runs fine. Though, naturally my battery drains quickly.
I've tried this method and it doesn't work for me. Left the chromecast's ID as default, was able to get it to connect, but the Chromecast itself is never recognized by any device. I can refresh or toggle wifi and eventually it will show up as an option in Google Music/Youtube, but then trying to connect to it produces an error message.
I have tried using a Galaxy Note on T-Mobile run tethering and surprise surprise, it works, but because they don't have unlimited data like I do on Verizon, it's not an option at all. Seems like it might be an issue specific to the GNex.
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I've tried this method and it doesn't work for me. Left the chromecast's ID as default, was able to get it to connect, but the Chromecast itself is never recognized by any device. I can refresh or toggle wifi and eventually it will show up as an option in Google Music/Youtube, but then trying to connect to it produces an error message.
I have tried using a Galaxy Note on T-Mobile run tethering and surprise surprise, it works, but because they don't have unlimited data like I do on Verizon, it's not an option at all. Seems like it might be an issue specific to the GNex.
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On the gnex, try going to settings-wifi-advanced-wifiFrequencyBand: 2.4 GHz only
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So with this method you used your galaxy s as the hotspot and the gnex to setup the chromecast correct? I don't have a second phone to do that, have you gotten this to work by using the windows chromecast setup app? I can't connect...with or without a password on my hotspot and using 2.4ghz only.
Please explain how you set this up step by step
Currently, I'm using the gnex as a hotspot. I originally used chrome on Ubuntu to set up. Actually, any setup will work. I switched to see what works best and I think the gnex hotspot is more stable. You will, however, need a 2nd phone or computer to setup. Sometimes setup gets a bit tricky and says setup failed but that may not be correct, as I showed in the screenshots.
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I've gotten it to connect to my gnex using the default name like you said, but I'm not getting a cast button on any app (using my nexus 7)
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I've gotten it to connect to my gnex using the default name like you said, but I'm not getting a cast button on any app (using my nexus 7)[/QUOTE
Does the TV set say "ready to cast"? If do, make sure the nexus 7 is also connected to the gnex. The chromecast app on the nexus7 should also say ready to cast".
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I've gotten it to connect to my gnex using the default name like you said, but I'm not getting a cast button on any app (using my nexus 7)[/QUOTE
Does the TV set say "ready to cast"? If do, make sure the nexus 7 is also connected to the gnex. The chromecast app on the nexus7 should also say ready to cast".
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Ready to cast on TV, ready to setup on nexus 7 chromecast app. I've got them both on the gnex hotspot, set up worked like yours. I don't get why its not casting
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On the gnex, try going to settings-wifi-advanced-wifiFrequencyBand: 2.4 GHz only
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Thanks, I'll try this out when I get home and see how it fairs.
I tried the 2.4Ghz setting and the Chromecast app doesn't recognize the Chromecast at all. Even though it's set up and connected to the network, the app will detect it as needing to be setup, even though Chromecast displays "Ready to Cast." I really think it has to be related to some Verizon LTE thing because I don't really know why it would instantly work on a T-Mobile Galaxy Note but not for a Verizon Galaxy Nexus. Doesn't really make any sense. I don't think using CM10.1 has anything to do with it either. I also tried CM10.2 with the same results.
OK. If you are "Ready To Cast" and you can't, this is what I found: YouTube, Google movies, and music are "blocked" if you don't have a paid hotspot plan, but Netflix and casting from your computer should work. On my sim, I had about 99gb of data and Google doesn't cast but Netflix and tab casting works. On my wife's sim, the hotspot on her plan is still less than 500mb so I can stream. This is on T-Mobile.
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New chromecast ota update: http://www.androidcentral.com/chromecast-app-update-aims-fix-discoverability-issues
I wrote this post before the first update and setting up, to me (after a factory reset) was easier. I haven't had the new update but as soon as I get it, I will factory reset and reprogram to see if anything has changed.
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I'm convinced this will never work with my gnex as a hotspot, its just teasing me. It worked great with my girlfriends Rezound as a hotspot, but thats gone from a mugging in Colombia last week, and now she is getting a gnex
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OK. If you are "Ready To Cast" and you can't, this is what I found: YouTube, Google movies, and music are "blocked" if you don't have a paid hotspot plan, but Netflix and casting from your computer should work. On my sim, I had about 99gb of data and Google doesn't cast but Netflix and tab casting works. On my wife's sim, the hotspot on her plan is still less than 500mb so I can stream. This is on T-Mobile.
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Thanks for the help. That reasoning probably makes sense. It's fine because in a few months I'll have a dedicated wifi connection and won't have to resort to my phone, so I'll just have to wait it out. Thanks for all your help!
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Thanks for the help. That reasoning probably makes sense. It's fine because in a few months I'll have a dedicated wifi connection and won't have to resort to my phone, so I'll just have to wait it out. Thanks for all your help!
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Try the AirCast app. There's a link in the op.
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You Can use an Apple Watch Series 3 (probably a Series 2 and earlier models as well) standalone with a Note 8 (S8/S8+ and maybe any Android Device?)!
[ Thanks to @spinedoc on Android Central for this idea!]
**Please, no flaming! I live in both Android and Apple World (as many do). Been loving Android off and on for years. Bored with iOS/iPhone for a couple years now. I do have a Gear S2 (and I wear that too, total geek, I know...) but I have yet to find a decent <= 40mm Android Capable SmartWatch. They are just too large on my wrist and Apple Watch 38mm is perfect so I bought a new Series 3. Apple Watch is behind in tech to me compared to some Android Watches but AW is very slick and really nice looking to me. Some people cannot afford both an Android Wear watch and an Apple Watch even though I believe Android Wear works on iPhone. I kept my iPhone to work on theming as it was jailbroken but isn't any longer due to upgrading to iOS 11. Also I help a lot of friends and family with their iPhone setups and problems so it's good for me to have an iPhone on hand as I follow along when helping them.
Of course not all of the features of the Apple Watch will work but many will! I haven't tried out all of them yet. Phone calls won't work.
You MUST Own an iPhone [for Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS) or earlier models of Apple Watch, you need an iPhone 5s or later with probably the latest iOS] in addition to your Android device and have Hotspot functionality on your cellular plan.
Here are the steps that I used (it is NOT necessary to initially have a SIM in your iPhone when setting up. I am using a Series 3 GPS Only Apple Watch with an older iPhone 6+ on iOS 11).
1) Turn on the Hotspot on your Android device (I'm using a Note 8).
2) Connect your iPhone’s wifi to the Android phone's Hotspot.
3) Your Apple Watch will access the internet using the wifi hotspot connection on your iPhone.
4) Now that you have “established” an authorized/known (can’t think of the word Apple uses) wifi connection you can leave the iPhone at home and either leave the hotspot running or turn it on when you need updates to certain apps on your watch!
5) Go into messages on your iPhone (especially when the SIM is NOT in it) and be sure you have an email address that is checked off to use with iMessage. I used iMessage seamlessly - with voice text entry…too small to type (of course there is no trail of the SMSs on your Android phone).
My weather updates, my mail comes in and I can respond. Haven’t tried anything else except Siri who told me the time but couldn’t answer a couple of questions about Apple Watch (just referred me to open the web on the iPhone). Remember that the functionality available on an Apple Watch is dependent upon what exists on your iPhone, not what's on your Android device.
Surprisingly, I didn't get much of a hit on the battery either in my Note 8 or on the Apple Watch when I left the Hotspot on. Not sure how much data was used but I get a 10GB/month hotspot on my AT&T plan so doubt I'll eat that up before the next bill comes out.
If you have an LTE version Apple Watch on AT&T then using NumberSync might not be that good of an idea. Check out this article on Android Central:
https://www.androidcentral.com/how-u...oid-smartphone
FYI this worked for me with a series 2, than means no cellular connection, I'll bet it works better with a series 3. Battery draw was higher on both the AW and the Note 8 (hotspot continuously on), but I still made it through a full day. Most of my stuff is on Google Voice, so all that worked perfectly and I got notifications on the AW and was able to respond. All the apps I tried which involved the phone seemed to work fine, for example the Ecobee app on the AW worked fine to adjust my Tstat at home. Apple pay worked perfectly as well. Siri didn't work when I tested, it said couldn't find my iPhone. iMessages can be tricky as mentioned above. The only thing that truly didn't work at all was making and receiving phone calls.
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FYI this worked for me with a series 2, than means no cellular connection, I'll bet it works better with a series 3. Battery draw was higher on both the AW and the Note 8 (hotspot continuously on), but I still made it through a full day. Most of my stuff is on Google Voice, so all that worked perfectly and I got notifications on the AW and was able to respond. All the apps I tried which involved the phone seemed to work fine, for example the Ecobee app on the AW worked fine to adjust my Tstat at home. Apple pay worked perfectly as well. Siri didn't work when I tested, it said couldn't find my iPhone. iMessages can be tricky as mentioned above. The only thing that truly didn't work at all was making and receiving phone calls.
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Thanks again @spinedoc for your initial information on that NumberSync article on Android Central. I posted this guide on the ATT forum and someone stated that even trying this was a hot mess! No way! Once you set it up that's it. It works really well with the series 3. You used ecobee, it works with liftmaster too.
I love the watch but I love my Note 8! So I do want to live in Both worlds.
If Android Wear comes out with a smaller watch I'll end up buying that too. Lol!
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Say u turn your hotspot on , tether the iPhone to note 8 , leave the house but your iPhone loses connection to your note 8 because your out of range so it hooks onto your home router. Now you won’t get messages?? Think that’s the problem I had. It Did work when I left the iPhone in the vehicle, lost tethering so iPhone went to cellular data. Can anyone confirm?
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Say u turn your hotspot on , tether the iPhone to note 8 , leave the house but your iPhone loses connection to your note 8 because your out of range so it hooks onto your home router. Now you won’t get messages?? Think that’s the problem I had. It Did work when I left the iPhone in the vehicle, lost tethering so iPhone went to cellular data. Can anyone confirm?
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I had my iPhone (no SIM in it) tethered to my Note 8 hotspot. At the same time the Apple Watch is automatically connected to the iPhone (which is still using the hotspot for internet connectivity).
Once the Apple Watch was connected it "established " a know WiFi connection so you can actually shut the iPhone down and the Apple Watch will connect to your Note 8 (or any previously connected hotspot which your iPhone was connected to).
So when I leave my house and my Apple Watch is out of range even with my home WiFi (you'll know when your watch has no connection as it will display a tiny red phone or something like that, at the top of the screen) I turn on my Hotspot right in the notification shade (which also turns off your N8 normal WiFi connection) and the Apple Watch connects automatically. That "not connected" icon disappears.
Now you will not receive any cell-related content. You'll get text messages Only from those using iMessage (but you can respond on your AW, I use voice dictation, so easy) your Note 8 texts will not appear on AW. You'll get email updates (if the email accounts existed on your iPhone), you'll get weather updates and can use wifi-connected light bulbs and garage doors etc. if they were all originally set up on your iPhone and if there is a corresponding AW app. Still lots of functionality!
I'm such a geeky goober that I have an Apple Watch on one wrist and a Gear S2 LTE on the other! Like jewelry to me.
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Say u turn your hotspot on , tether the iPhone to note 8 , leave the house but your iPhone loses connection to your note 8 because your out of range so it hooks onto your home router. Now you won’t get messages?? Think that’s the problem I had. It Did work when I left the iPhone in the vehicle, lost tethering so iPhone went to cellular data. Can anyone confirm?
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I forgot to mention that this is the GPS Only Apple Watch.
Also, @vincey, are you trying to just tether your iPhone to your N8 hotspot (& not use an AW at all)?
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Series 1
I tried it with my Series 1 Apple watch and I am not receiving messages.
Thanks for the great info everyone,
Have anyone had the chance to check the method with the series 4 ?
In terms of battery, will the watch last for a day using the hotspot ? Have anyone tried checking WhatsApp notifications ?
my son wants apple watch he does not have phone yet. he does have ipad. if i find an old beater iphone5 to set up the apple watch, he could do similar as you with note?
the apple watch would record exercise, would that sync back to apple health on wifi? i don’t see apple health app for ipad though.
could he use ipad to copy music to apple watch?
can he install games from ipad to watch?
plan b is fitbit versa
Is this still working? How long does your Apple Watch Series 3 last before it needs to be charged again when doing this?
I'm assuming WhatsApp messages sent to the iPhone will be received on the watch?
itesla said:
my son wants apple watch he does not have phone yet. he does have ipad. if i find an old beater iphone5 to set up the apple watch, he could do similar as you with note?
the apple watch would record exercise, would that sync back to apple health on wifi? i don’t see apple health app for ipad though.
could he use ipad to copy music to apple watch?
can he install games from ipad to watch?
plan b is fitbit versa
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An Apple Watch can only be directly paired with an iPhone, not an iPad, and if it has watchOS 4 or later, then it can't be paired to an iPhone 5 or 5C, because they won't run anything newer than iOS 10, but as long as the watch has watchOS 3 or earlier, you can still pair it to a 5 or 5C. Otherwise, just get a 5S. If it's a cellular iPad and there's a SIM card in it, then he can do what the OP did with his Note 8, but he won't be able to sync or install anything on the watch using the iPad. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure a Fitbit can be paired to any phone, tablet or computer