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Mobile Bravia Engine V.S Samsuns S-AMOLED

So how does the Bravia engine compare to Samsung S-Amoled. I've seen several youtube clips and the Bravia seems to win all the time, but that's on a youtube video not in person

marukai said:
So how does the Bravia engine compare to Samsung S-Amoled. I've seen several youtube clips and the Bravia seems to win all the time, but that's on a youtube video not in person
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They have very different looks to them. Kinda depends what your definition of "win" is

LCD always tend to project the more natural look. And with the BE enhancement, I'd say sony wins on this one.
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Sony's Screen is best My Dad has Galaxy S3 Pentile Amoled , My eyes begin to hurt in a minute!!!!!!! i like lcd screen on my ray better

papped said:
They have very different looks to them. Kinda depends what your definition of "win" is
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1RD_J6TM94
Heres a video of TX vs SGSIII
starting at 6:00 and 7:15
There are scenes where they compare the screens, and SGSIII isnt all that great either, both has their disadvantages.

I've come from a Galaxy Note (5.3" AMOLED) to the Xperia T.
The XT wins for me hands down. With both on auto-brightness the XT feels a bit dull at first but the colours are so much more natural and if you turn off auto-brightness and set them to the same brightness (approx the same overall level, visually) then the Note looks too artificial.

Mobile braviia engine = Software
S amoled = Hardware
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sahibunlimited said:
Mobile braviia engine = Software
S amoled = Hardware
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Yep, I was gonna say this as well.
It's just matter of time when someone gets Bravia Engine 2 working.

haha is not apple to apple comparison.. and its about user taste mostly...

Why not implement the bra via tech throughout the whole phone?
I have the xperia s. Pictures and videos in the gallery look wild, but once you leave that, everything is washed out again

upgrading to Xperia Z

hi all
i was wondering if it worth upgrade to xperia z from Lg optimums 4x, or should i keep it
lg is worse in dev support and camera in the dark can not capture a thing

Do it.

You answered your own question mate.
It's a great phone!
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The sony xperia z seems to have problems, through reading and personal experience. I still think its a great phone.
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that's what worried me
the review seem to be different than personal experience as the case about my current 4x the reviews criticized the phone but it's not that bad
what about the heat issue (i'm normal user -internet, facebook, camera, music- ) and glass crack

If you don't play games this phone is amazing.
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gm007 said:
If you don't play games this phone is amazing.
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does it heat alot while gaming
because i sell my s2 and s3 for the heating issue

heahmad said:
does it heat alot while gaming
because i sell my s2 and s3 for the heating issue
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It heats up just like the S3 or any other dual/quad core cpu smartphone. You won't find a smartphone with a cpu like that which won't heat up - unfortunatelly.

Akiainavas said:
It heats up just like the S3 or any other dual/quad core cpu smartphone. You won't find a smartphone with a cpu like that which won't heat up - unfortunatelly.
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unfortunatelly thats true, so today i went to the shop and try the xperia z and it was great the screen look perfect(i compare it to note 2) the touch and feel of the phone is super great and the phone it self look appealing, there is one thing the sound is bit lower than i expected.
i will buy it the end of the month, hope so! :fingers-crossed:
thank you all

Akiainavas said:
It heats up just like the S3 or any other dual/quad core cpu smartphone. You won't find a smartphone with a cpu like that which won't heat up - unfortunatelly.
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As stated here, no cooling fans etc, high cpu speed packed into small bundle, very limited to disipate the heat generated. No phone is not going to head up significantly when under load, the more Cores and GHz the more heat

Hey guys I also upgraded to Xperia z from the note 2 (went for the looks, ignoring the inside cooks)...
and I also made the dealer apply a screenguard on that phone straightaway...
But the picture quality of the phone seems to be a little bad than note 2....
I compared both the phones having same pic on both the phones but note 2 seems to have sharper images....
Do I have a problem with my phone or is it like this originally.?

rohan999 said:
Hey guys I also upgraded to Xperia z from the note 2 (went for the looks, ignoring the inside cooks)...
and I also made the dealer apply a screenguard on that phone straightaway...
But the picture quality of the phone seems to be a little bad than note 2....
I compared both the phones having same pic on both the phones but note 2 seems to have sharper images....
Do I have a problem with my phone or is it like this originally.?
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Turn OFF the Bravia Engine, then see what you think. I much prefer it off.
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alias_neo said:
Turn OFF the Bravia Engine, then see what you think. I much prefer it off.
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I think you did not get me.....
I said that the displays not as sharp as the s3's or note 2's....
the display is sort of blurrish.....(very little)
very dull.... Colors are not very bright at all......

rohan999 said:
I think you did not get me.....
I said that the displays not as sharp as the s3's or note 2's....
the display is sort of blurrish.....(very little)
very dull.... Colors are not very bright at all......
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I got you perfectly.
Turn off Bravia engine and see what you think, I feel it affected the sharpness, I came from an S3 and think the display on the XZ is incredibly sharp.
As for the "dull" colours, it's probably because the SuperAMOLED screens in the GN2 and the S3 were very saturated compared to the LCD in the XZ, personally though, I always used my S3 in "Standard" display mode which removed much of the saturation and I'm a lot happier with the more realistic colours of the XZ.
The camera on the other hand is a different story, and I find it difficult to get photos that come close to what I could take on my S3, too much post processing I presume on the XZ, and they don't do a very good job of it.

rohan999 said:
I think you did not get me.....
I said that the displays not as sharp as the s3's or note 2's....
the display is sort of blurrish.....(very little)
very dull.... Colors are not very bright at all......
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Take into consideration the resolution of the image you are testing. This is a full hd screen so it needs full hd images to compare or it will just stretch them causing blurred.
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has any one notice or read somewhere about screen leakage

wawyed said:
Take into consideration the resolution of the image you are testing. This is a full hd screen so it needs full hd images to compare or it will just stretch them causing blurred.
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Its not just the image I am comparing, it's also the ui of the phone.
alias_neo said:
I got you perfectly.
Turn off Bravia engine and see what you think, I feel it affected the sharpness, I came from an S3 and think the display on the XZ is incredibly sharp.
As for the "dull" colours, it's probably because the SuperAMOLED screens in the GN2 and the S3 were very saturated compared to the LCD in the XZ, personally though, I always used my S3 in "Standard" display mode which removed much of the saturation and I'm a lot happier with the more realistic colours of the XZ.
The camera on the other hand is a different story, and I find it difficult to get photos that come close to what I could take on my S3, too much post processing I presume on the XZ, and they don't do a very good job of it.
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Bravia engine works only in the gallery and videos, I taken. Into account the user interface as well

rohan999 said:
Its not just the image I am comparing, it's also the ui of the phone.
Bravia engine works only in the gallery and videos, I taken. Into account the user interface as well
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I see, I'm afraid I can't really contribute any further to the discussion in that case. personally I think on my device it looks much sharper than my S3 did.
Does this issue show up in a screenshot? Perhaps there is some strange graphical issue with your device.

Just Confused

iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few questions here
1-Octa core and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance

1) no
2) not sure
3) it's alright. Compared to my previous phones like tx, t, zl it's a bit off.
Ill be honest with you, z may not have the best specs Or screen Or whatever. But once you hold it in your hands you don't want to let it go.
S4 has features, but it's a phone that I cant bring out to show off.
The z, it's a beauty with water proof, a phone that I'm proud of to bring out with confidence. I don't even know how to explain the beauty and sexiness of the phone. It's like better than looking at girls ( okay I'm going to far) but you understand what I mean lol.

abokorayem said:
iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few quee and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
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It's actually just 2x quad so in terms of speed, there's no difference
2. Sony is working on an update for the camera and power management, can't say results yet but it will improve.
3 I have no problem with the speaker, compared to s2 I find the quality better here.
But the speaker will get low for about 30 minutes if you drop the phone in water.
The S4 will melt if you drop it in water.
If you're really unsure just test both devices. I went with the Z for waterproof, I myself was faced with this decision. (but with HTC1)

OsiBasi said:
2. Sony is working on an update for the camera and power management, can't say results yet but it will improve.
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Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet

Higgins12 said:
Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Maybe you have to check sony's forum not xda ,cause they say the camera will be fixed.
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gm007 said:
Maybe you have to check sony's forum not xda ,cause they say the camera will be fixed.
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Those guys over on the Sony forum aren't all that reliable though to be fair

cvi emEasted
I am about to buy a smartphone like you do.
1- for the hardware there is really not much of a difference between the two in raw power..
2- camera is not so bad, i think it's on par with the S4 without the iAuto mod.. but software will be improved, and you always can use mods..
3- sound quality, have no idea, i still need to buy the phone.. but i guess it will be ok.. but i don't use speaker to listen to song.. so i don't care even if it was low..
I will go with the xperia z, its just beautiful, hardware? almost the same.
i was considering the nexus 4, because of the fast updates ecc ecc..
but the Z is just amazing... so i will buy it next week.

MadManMark said:
Those guys over on the Sony forum aren't all that reliable though to be fair
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But we have to believe someone don't you think so?or we all talking bul***t
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Higgins12 said:
Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Don't be so rude, why would you try to make me into a fool when you have no clue... Christ

abokorayem said:
iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few questions here
1-Octa core and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
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If I may believe the technical people the 8 core processor should be able to extend your battery life which sounds logical to me. Speed wise though it shouldn't make too much of a difference since only max 4 cores are being used at the time in the S4 and not 8. Despite that I bet the S4 will have a better benchmark score than the Z, the real question though is if it would be a noticeable difference in real time daily use.
If the camera issue can be fixed? I don't see a reason why not since it isn't a hardware issue. Yet again, the question will be if Sony will fix it.
Sound quality from the speakers definitely isn't gonna wow you, I can guarantee. However it's not really that bad.. I agree that it has horrible placement and isn't really loud but I personally never use the speakers. I have my headphones and will soon purchase the NFC speakers so to me it isn't a big issue.
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A rly Great thanks to all of u guys that rly made me cool down............at first i saw gsmarena.com and phonearena.com i thought xperia z was horrible.......but now i think iam gonna to pick it up......THANKS AGAIN

RoChinu said:
If I may believe the technical people the 8 core processor should be able to extend your battery life which sounds logical to me. Speed wise though it shouldn't make too much of a difference since only max 4 cores are being used at the time in the S4 and not 8. Despite that I bet the S4 will have a better benchmark score than the Z, the real question though is if it would be a noticeable difference in real time daily use.
If the camera issue can be fixed? I don't see a reason why not since it isn't a hardware issue. Yet again, the question will be if Sony will fix it.
Sound quality from the speakers definitely isn't gonna wow you, I can guarantee. However it's not really that bad.. I agree that it has horrible placement and isn't really loud but I personally never use the speakers. I have my headphones and will soon purchase the NFC speakers so to me it isn't a big issue.
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And the first batches with galaxy s4 will come with snapdragon and not exynos. New octa exynos chips arent even being massproduced just yet and might take awhile. (P.S. This info might being outdated, this is what I last heard.)
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[X-Reality] What is it?

Introduction​So I was wondering what X-Reality is and decided to search it up.
I found a video about X-Reality, explaining what it is and what it does.
I decided to test it out myself. Using a port for the Xperia V.
I want you all to watch this video and reply about what you think about this.
Is it worth the port? Is it good?​
Video​Click here to watch​
My Personal Testing​So after a few testing with Bravia Engine 2 and X-Reality,
I found out that there's not much difference in the quality.
I can't provide proof. That's why I want to discuss this with you all.​

Actually, you cannot compare it with "unofficial" device
The best compare, it's with real device which support X-Reality engine
Also GPU and display density can make soo much different
=)

Yenkazu said:
Actually, you cannot compare it with "unofficial" device
The best compare, it's with real device which support X-Reality engine
Also GPU and display density can make soo much different
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True but based on what she said in the video, it doesn't have any difference.

Yes you can trust her research. You can learn more about it in her Triluminos video. There she explains things more deeply.

thedisturbedone said:
Yes you can trust her research. You can learn more about it in her Triluminos video. There she explains things more deeply.
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Yea. I watched it. Seems like X-Reality isn't a big upgrade from Bravia 2.
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BloodLust012 said:
Yea. I watched it. Seems like X-Reality isn't a big upgrade from Bravia 2.
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Yeah and its almost nothing compared to Amoled

True but from time to time, Bravia Engine 2 actually makes the screen looks much sharper than Super Amoled.
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Have you taken the time to look at one of the recent Amoled devices from Samsung like the Note 2 or Gs3 there actually a bit on the dull side at times there screens don't have as much pop as the older Amoled screens of the past though there is defiantly some improvements as so as the Gs4 as well with it being even sharper with a better colour range or something the Trluminus for mobile is at least a decent display I'm sure it won't disappoint to bad I'm hoping and waiting for Sony to launch a device again compact like the ZL but like the Z1 in the spec department before I buy another Sony smartphone .

Bravia Engine...all time??

So I know that our display is fading when it stands vs HTC, LG, Samsung screen but if we make Bravia Engine always ON the situation changes, the screen could be equal or maybe a little bit better than others with more power consumption.
So its this possible..to have bravia engine in games, homescreen, anywhere in sistem? As I read on the internet I didnt found an exact answer for this question.

nemer12 said:
So I know that our display is fading when it stands vs HTC, LG, Samsung screen but if we make Bravia Engine always ON the situation changes, the screen could be equal or maybe a little bit better than others with more power consumption.
So its this possible..to have bravia engine in games, homescreen, anywhere in sistem? As I read on the internet I didnt found an exact answer for this question.
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Theoretically it would be possible but the battery drain would be enormous ATM, unless Sony delivers some tweaks!
That's probably the reason why they haven't done.that in the first place!
Sony.would be better off with an oled display, tweaking it and sticking the BE2 ENGINE or x-reality into that, saving battery consumption. Then they would be unbeatable for a while!
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nemer12 said:
So I know that our display is fading when it stands vs HTC, LG, Samsung screen but if we make Bravia Engine always ON the situation changes, the screen could be equal or maybe a little bit better than others with more power consumption.
So its this possible..to have bravia engine in games, homescreen, anywhere in sistem? As I read on the internet I didnt found an exact answer for this question.
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I guess not.
And my screen is better than the sgs4's. I can't see a big difference between mine and htc one's either.
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Not really. I can say that HTC One has easily the best screen on the market.
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I think it would be better if the devs try ing to get be2 or x reality to work on unlocked bootloader.
For crying outloud.....my galaxy nexus has be2 but a sony phone a little modified couldnt get be2 to work when its unlockud? Its sonys concept wtf....hahahahahahh
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Once sources go out for GPE Z Ultra, I'm quite sure devs will port X-Reality and other handy features.

X-reality & Bravia engine it just marketing Bull****

rzuku90 said:
X-reality & Bravia engine it just marketing Bull****
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Hmm. NO.
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it would be nice to have it all time so...just to have it there in case that we want to compare our screen to another phones screen.
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Once sources go out for GPE Z Ultra, I'm quite sure devs will port X-Reality and other handy features.
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How to make the X reality work if you have unlocked bootloader?
demon2112 said:
I think it would be better if the devs try ing to get be2 or x reality to work on unlocked bootloader.
For crying outloud.....my galaxy nexus has be2 but a sony phone a little modified couldnt get be2 to work when its unlockud? Its sonys concept wtf....hahahahahahh
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corect and this is a wierd thing .
Tommy-Geenexus said:
I guess not.
And my screen is better than the sgs4's. I can't see a big difference between mine and htc one's either.
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In the past I was like my sony xperia z screen is the best and I could not BELIEVE all sites that sayd that SXZ has a weak screen(like on a low end phone) and when I compared with a Samsung Screen(s4/note 3)..i Was like nooooooooooo way my screen its ****ty...
And I said I dont understand so SONY ..sells 13 MP camera and screen to others but for them they cant do a good screen or a really good camera.

nemer12 said:
it would be nice to have it all time so...just to have it there in case that we want to compare our screen to another phones screen.
How to make the X reality work if you have unlocked bootloader?
corect and this is a wierd thing .
In the past I was like my sony xperia z screen is the best and I could not BELIEVE all sites that sayd that SXZ has a weak screen(like on a low end phone) and when I compared with a Samsung Screen(s4/note 3)..i Was like nooooooooooo way my screen its ****ty...
And I said I dont understand so SONY ..sells 13 MP camera and screen to others but for them they cant do a good screen or a really good camera.
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When i compared my screen to a sgs4's one i was like omg is my display bright.
And the s4 had only bit better colours but nuffin more.
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OK its quite late , but I can suggest you some alternative try it and lemme know..
google is your best friend , search for Screendim.apk and install it
enable it and set the bottom bar ( contrast ) for about 60% and the brightness on top for about 60-70% and now tell me how dark or colorful your screen looks
this defnitely works.. not perfect but close to BE alwasy ON types..

Tommy-Geenexus said:
When i compared my screen to a sgs4's one i was like omg is my display bright.
And the s4 had only bit better colours but nuffin more.
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Fanboy alert. You didn't see very grey black, fogged colours, bad view angles etc? So you have some problems with your eyes (or just fanboy). Even 2 years old phones have batter screens than Z.
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slowik515 said:
Fanboy alert. You didn't see very grey black, fogged colours, bad view angles etc? So you have some problems with your eyes (or just fanboy). Even 2 years old phones have batter screens than Z.
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Nope. Neither my Xperia S nor my Xperia Neo nor my Nexus 4 nor everything i've owned had a better screen.
Maybe there are some people on the world who like natural colours, becoz after looking at a amoled display my head hurts.
The display of the lg g2 is the only one which impressed me though, this is miles better, but nothing else.
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If you display some screen calibration patterns while using bravia engine, you see how bad it is for fidelity. It just oversaturates, tints, and destroys detail in brighter and darker areas of images/videos.
If a phone has a screen of 300/1 contrast ratio, there is no way some software can improve this, it only can put some make up but at the cost of some other things, just like LCD's are doing since the beginning with dynamic contrast and all that bullsh*t, where you see skin become shiny bright and where there used to be a dark grey shadow over a black background, then it becomes all black and no shadow.
BE is the first thing i disable in all my Sony products, and its equivalent in any non Sony product.

I think that our screen without bravia its complety UGLY! :-&

I never had any issues with the colours on my device. Infact I prefer them this way as opposed to colour popping and extra vibrant. Infact I turn down that setting on my LCD monitor. A friend of mine did a side by side comparison against his Samsung device and the 1st thing he notices was the colour was more toned down then said he actually preferred the Sony display. Point is some ppl like the toned down visuals and others like them vibrant but funny how as someone says they have no issue with the Sony display they are labeled a blind fanboy.
As for viewing angles, Also never had an issue with them due to the fact that I always take up my phone when I want to look at it (always, its a habit of mine) and never just glance at it while it is on a desk or anything like that.

Xperia Z Screen is OK, i have been using it everyday since launch date, viewing angles may be low, but that is something i forgot completely in everyday use. Screen brightness is more than enough, contrast is ok, and visual fidelity is great (as long as you have BE2 deactivated).
For people saying there were better screens two years ago, please point me to a device released two years ago with a 5" FullHD screen with better specifications.
We all know the XZ screen, today, is not one of the best FullHD screen on a smartphone, but it was the first released.

RoberM said:
Xperia Z Screen is OK, i have been using it everyday since launch date, viewing angles may be low, but that is something i forgot completely in everyday use. Screen brightness is more than enough, contrast is ok, and visual fidelity is great (as long as you have BE2 deactivated).
For people saying there were better screens two years ago, please point me to a device released two years ago with a 5" FullHD screen with better specifications.
We all know the XZ screen, today, is not one of the best FullHD screen on a smartphone, but it was the first released.
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Finally someone with a little knowledge.
Don't forget, before a smartphone is released, how long it takes to develop.
The screen isn't poor at all. I feel really sorry for people saying this and hope.that their doc can.help them.sort their eyes out real soon.
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slim207rc said:
Finally someone with a little knowledge.
Don't forget, before a smartphone is released, how long it takes to develop.
The screen isn't poor at all. I feel really sorry for people saying this and hope.that their doc can.help them.sort their eyes out real soon.
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I don't think they need a doctor or anything, it is a matter of taste, there are people who like viewing screen with oversaturated colors and overdriven contrast just because it is more eye catchy, for god's sake they even ported the bravia engine to the galaxy nexus, and there are people who even enjoy it, if the nexus screen weren't oversaturated enough... let's oversaturate it even more and add a lot of detail loss due to contrast overdrive by BE.
Oh, also forgot to mention, "nits", why the hell would we need a screen with a gazillion of nits if at the end of the day we are all using the brightness bar to decrease it to save battery (or using the Auto mode), at the end we all are viewing the screen with about the same luminosity, it doesn't matter if our screen has 10 or 8.000.000 nits.