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Note seems to be getting slower

Hey guys, I think a few days ago i came in asking about battery issues and such. But this time i need to ask about the lag issues. I was an sgs2 owner, and i can say the SGS 2 in the long run as in leaving it on for a longer time, seems to hold itself better then the note.
When launching dolphin or whatsapp the note seems to stutter for a moment and when calling out the keyboard and typing it in it stutters at times. But then everything goes well. In terms of free ram i notice the sgs2 has like 500++ of free ram everytime i use the app killer. But the note only has like 300+. I wonder if this is the cause of those short spurts of lag.
I wish to remedy this issue, and if it means changing the kernel or using a whole new rom i don't mind. (Better battery life would be an added plus)
I'll just leave my specs down just incase anyone out there could help troubleshoot or give me some hints to my current situation.
The lag is very minimal but annoying at times ya know.
Launcher: SPB Shell 3D (Was using this on my SGS2 too without any lag)
Android Version: 2.3.5
Baseband: N7000DXKJ3
Kernel version 2.6.35.5+N7000DKK1-CL706642 [email protected] #2
Build Number: Gingerbread.DXKK1

Anyone??

kamale said:
Hey guys, I think a few days ago i came in asking about battery issues and such. But this time i need to ask about the lag issues. I was an sgs2 owner, and i can say the SGS 2 in the long run as in leaving it on for a longer time, seems to hold itself better then the note.
When launching dolphin or whatsapp the note seems to stutter for a moment and when calling out the keyboard and typing it in it stutters at times. But then everything goes well. In terms of free ram i notice the sgs2 has like 500++ of free ram everytime i use the app killer. But the note only has like 300+. I wonder if this is the cause of those short spurts of lag.
I wish to remedy this issue, and if it means changing the kernel or using a whole new rom i don't mind. (Better battery life would be an added plus)
I'll just leave my specs down just incase anyone out there could help troubleshoot or give me some hints to my current situation.
The lag is very minimal but annoying at times ya know.
Launcher: SPB Shell 3D (Was using this on my SGS2 too without any lag)
Android Version: 2.3.5
Baseband: N7000DXKJ3
Kernel version 2.6.35.5+N7000DKK1-CL706642 [email protected] #2
Build Number: Gingerbread.DXKK1
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kamale said:
Anyone??
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Try to update the phone to 2.3.6.
There have been a lot of performance fixes.
I've noticed those little lags at 2.3.5 too but now they are gone.

..well i have a lags with 2.3.6.
I Sgs2 owner too.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

the only lag that bugs me is that when i first start typing on the keyboard, it has a bit of lag for 1-2 seconds. after that its generally fine. nothing game breaking, but still annoying.
and yeah, i noticed the crappy amount of free ram ages ago. tempted to install a vanilla ICS rom whenever one is available.

Hey guys. I'm a new Galaxy Note owner. Just had it for 2 days now, and while I've experienced some minor issues this is still by far the nicest phone I have ever used. My previous phone was a rooted and CM7'd HTC desire.
Regarding general lag on this phone, I've found that using a lot of widgets can cause slowdowns. If you try removing some, or all widgets, does this speed things up for you somewhat? I've removed most of the samsung bloatware including almost all of the tw interface. Now i'm using ADW2 as my launcher, 3 screens, smart keyboard pro, and dialer ex.
Still looking to flash to Cyanogenmod or ICS whenever that becomes available.

Mine was very Laggy. I used Autokiller to see all the crap that was running. It was truly amazing that damn near everything installed on Android runs some kind of Demon, and stay resident program.
My lag immediately disappeared after terminating this junk that I had not run in a week or so. Looks like some sort of Windows version of Linux!

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les_garten said:
...Android runs some kind of Demon...
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Daemon not Demon...
BTW, coming to the original question, try KL3 ROM. Up until now(KKA), I was having severe lag issues with 3rd party launchers, but with KL3, all that is history. So I assume KL3 is a much faster ROM overall. Also, try freezing the apps that are running these heave/unnecessary background processes.
I'm on AbyssNote 2.2, stock KL3 ROM if it matters to you...

How do i go about getting this KL3 rom? Any step by step guide?

Army92 said:
Try to update the phone to 2.3.6.
There have been a lot of performance fixes.
I've noticed those little lags at 2.3.5 too but now they are gone.
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Where can i go to get my android version upgraded?

kamale said:
Where can i go to get my android version upgraded?
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It's now only available in India

use "startup cleaner pro" app. you can select apps which you DONT want to startup during restart/reboot etc. most of the installed apps automatically start on its own during reboot/restart etc. so install this app and remove all unwanted apps startups. i had this prob with S2. and after using this app, after startup it shows hw many apps were autokilled..mine shows like 35-40 apps!!!

Just got KL3 it seems a lot snappier. No keyboard lag any more. Also found a setting in ADW2 EX for cache quality, turned it to low which has improved things slightly. Just had the new ROM for a few hours but everything so far is working well.

dzontra11 said:
..well i have a lags with 2.3.6.
I Sgs2 owner too.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Just noticed this today myself and I am on 2.3.6.

kamale said:
Where can i go to get my android version upgraded?
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It's not available OTA. you need to connect your SGN (via USB) to your pc/paltop having Kies installed. Kies will detect firmware upgrade and allow you to download and install.

Are you guys on the German Note to get this update? I'm thinking of getting it unlocked, or maybe just from Vodafone here since it's out, but I HATE how long it takes VF to update their phones (I'm also not a fan of rooting for warranty purposes).

I can confirm upgraded from previous firmware to KL3 nowipe using mobile odin no cache wipe or anything, the phone went from having major lag to being snappy and battery savings are huge.

[Q] Is there non lagging JB rom?

Hi,
wanna some cheap phone, galaxy s is pretty cheap, but i'd love JB and heard some problems with lagging after some time and some problems with google now. Don't have time to read much forums, can someone give me an answer in short? Ty.

notmevlak said:
Hi,
wanna some cheap phone, galaxy s is pretty cheap, but i'd love JB and heard some problems with lagging after some time and some problems with google now. Don't have time to read much forums, can someone give me an answer in short? Ty.
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Hi notmevlak!
Yes i totally agree, the Galaxy S is still a very attractive phone and is imo still better than most budget phones in the same price range. I have been running many different roms i all generations (gb, ics and currently jb) and I have to say that JB is amazing on the galaxy S. Iam currently running a stock rom ported from the Galaxy nexus with a galaxy s3 theme (Launcher and everything) and It's silky smooth! Almost no lags at all if youre thinking about the UI.
You can find that rom on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1902777
The best way to find a rom that suits your needs is to try them all. I see myself as a real flasholic hehe, it's like youre getting a new phone each time
Good luck! And if youre wondering about anything else, feel free to ask!
//A former xda lurker
Good luck

Have u tried c-rom jelly bean http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820578
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In short, no. There is not a single rom out there that won't lag at all. Apps are getting more and more cpu intensive as hardware specs improve. Even low grade androids now have duo core cpus.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

try tsunami aokp..u will not regret
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snapper.fishes said:
In short, no. There is not a single rom out there that won't lag at all. Apps are getting more and more cpu intensive as hardware specs improve. Even low grade androids now have duo core cpus.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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I thought 1ghz single core is enough, i don't really play any games or use any hardcore intensive apps. Thats why I wanna cheap phone, but I hate ICS/GB androids lagging. Is rly every jb rom lagging? I think I should go for some cheap wp7.5 phone then

What does lag mean to you?
notmevlak said:
Hi,
wanna some cheap phone, galaxy s is pretty cheap, but i'd love JB and heard some problems with lagging after some time and some problems with google now. Don't have time to read much forums, can someone give me an answer in short? Ty.
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I guess part of the answer is related to how you define 'lag'...
I have been running CM10 for about a month or so and been really impressed with how fast my GalaxyS runs on Jelly Bean. I haven't tried some of the other roms because CM10 does everything I need really well. I am coming from the earlier GB 2.3.3 version and for me, JB is way faster on this phone. From my experience, similar to many other posts I have read, installing JB was like getting a new phone.
In reality, some apps take a a few seconds to load and you can tell when a given app is taxing the system but to me this is acceptable knowing we only have a single core processor and 512 Mb. I can listen to any song, watch any youtube video and play most games and apps I have tried. It's not perfection and certainly a dual core or quad core rig with 2 gig of memory would be better but you won't get anything like that for $100 or less.
I would never consider a win phone simply because it would be pretty much a dead end for apps...while this phone can still run any app I have tried short of the super intensive games that need a tegra or something...
Will I get a new phone when my contract is up? Sure, if its free. Will this phone do me for another year until then? I'm pretty sure it will...
FYI: CM10 just updated to JB 4.1.2 last night...only a day after it was released for the Nexus 7.
My 2 cents...

Try codename-3.6.5 finally
Mix from Aokp ROM & Aosp ROM
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Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1902777

C-RoM BeaN with Semaphore JB kernel and V6 Supercharger script. Superfast!

notmevlak said:
Hi,
wanna some cheap phone, galaxy s is pretty cheap, but i'd love JB and heard some problems with lagging after some time and some problems with google now. Don't have time to read much forums, can someone give me an answer in short? Ty.
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atm i have the galaxy s, had it since it came out and haven't upgraded since (either didn't feel the need to or too financially challenged lol).
Anyhow, I was on GB roms for ages but changed to JB ones (skipped ICS altogether), and i gotta say the SGS does a fine job running JB. If you're worried about lag and battery problems, I can safely say that the phone handle JB beautifully. You'll probably need to charge the phone at the end of every day but there's not worries about lag or any other issues. Battery drain was my main concerning but I've figured out that you can get the phone lasting off one charge if you turn off wifi and 3G when you aren't using the internet. You won't be able to play games on it for hours but i barely use the phone for games since im bored of them all.

Galaxy S3 Lag

I just got my galaxy s3 for less than 2 weeks, and it's lagging while opening apps/photo/settings. Is there defect with my phone or what?
A Quad Core, 2GB Ram phone can be more lousier than my old Galaxy S2 which is only Dual Core & 1 GB of ram!

Have you rooted or added loads of apps ?

non-rooted and not maybe apps. 16 games, less than 10 downloaded apps ~

Kelvinjkke said:
non-rooted and not maybe apps. 16 games, less than 10 downloaded apps ~
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Are the games and apps all from creditable suppliers ?

Ah, but it can be slower than your old phone, thanks to the developers - and I use this term loosely - at Samsung. They have a talent for combining good hardware with unbelievably bad software.
For one, I'd make sure you're using the latest firmware. The out-of-the-box experience for me was that the phone was noticeably slower than my original Galaxy S, and just updating it with Kies helped immensely.
Second, try not using the touchwiz launcher. It's always been laggy for me, and, to be honest, that's the least of its many faults.

Mine was / is very fluid and stable. But i've heard other people also complain about lag in their new S3. Try to exchange it?

Try without a memory card (if you have one).
'Bad' memory card can result in lag as you mentioned.
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Yes, all apps are from reliable dev.
Im using Nova Launcher.
Removed sd card and it has no difference so i guess its nt the sd card fault.
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How high are your settings for Nova? Try tweaking some of the look and feel settings and see if it's faster.
Also, custom roms?

Will flash custom rom and root after sending in my phone to service .
Will try tweaking the settings n see if it works.
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Kelvinjkke said:
Will flash custom rom and root after sending in my phone to service .
Will try tweaking the settings n see if it works.
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I had the same feeling, but after I flash a custom rom every thing became normal again.

Try RipperRom v9.5! personally I found it to be faster than the v9.6

How much your Galaxy Note's rams are left after flashing jelly bean?

Currently I am on Eybee's deodexed stock jelly bean and flashed the integrated mod 1,2,3 and it runs super smooth and works perfect :fingers-crossed: (thank you eybee)
But somehow, the rams seem to be not enough since the leaked firmware LSC, and my rams are usually around 230~280 even though I deleted samsung apps and other useless apps..
Is it a normal thing that happens to every Galaxy Note users because it has various functionality such as S Note, popup brower, mini note, and so forth?

It's normal. When you open apps and close them again they'll get loaded into RAM so they can launch faster the next time you want to use an app. There's no reason to have 600 MB free RAM since the RAM is there for a reason. There's no reason to have 1GB of RAM if you don't use it.
The OS will also automatically make room when you use an app that's resource hungry, like a huge game for example. It will kill a process that's been loaded into RAM that you haven't used for a while.

Sangsoo Ha said:
Currently I am on Eybee's deodexed stock jelly bean and flashed the integrated mod 1,2,3 and it runs super smooth and works perfect :fingers-crossed: (thank you eybee)
But somehow, the rams seem to be not enough since the leaked firmware LSC, and my rams are usually around 230~280 even though I deleted samsung apps and other useless apps..
Is it a normal thing that happens to every Galaxy Note users because it has various functionality such as S Note, popup brower, mini note, and so forth?
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I do'nt care. Free RAM is unused resource. Andrid manages it, and my experience with LSA and LSZ since November did not reveal any problem..

Always have 300mb above

On ICS Stock ROM after cleansing I get about 450MB.
A user on CarbonROM (4.2.2) thread posted 460MB number.

mine is always free 400 to 500
now you can see in the photo 471 free ram

452mb here
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How do you achieve that guys, 450 mb? I always have like 150 or so, making it really laggy.
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i notice a difference in TW and aosp Roms like cm 10
the ram available is higher in TW roms than cm 10 roms
not sure why but TW roms lag after a continous usage

latste JB rom
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noteics said:
latste JB rom
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try root and freezing uninstalling bloatware, stop autostarts of aps your not using and use small sized apps

LordManhattan said:
It's normal. When you open apps and close them again they'll get loaded into RAM so they can launch faster the next time you want to use an app. There's no reason to have 600 MB free RAM since the RAM is there for a reason. There's no reason to have 1GB of RAM if you don't use it.
The OS will also automatically make room when you use an app that's resource hungry, like a huge game for example. It will kill a process that's been loaded into RAM that you haven't used for a while.
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Oh.. I have never realized it. Thank you very much for the reply with details. :fingers-crossed: I really appreciate it sir

CSharpHeaven said:
On ICS Stock ROM after cleansing I get about 450MB.
A user on CarbonROM (4.2.2) thread posted 460MB number.
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Carbon rom? How is it? Is it like smoother than stock jelly bean? So attempting to give a try downloading it

Thank you!!
Wow.. thank you for all these precious and wonderful replies!
And sorry that I cannot reply back for all these nice comments
Actually, this is my first time posting a thread and never thought there would be loads of replies here :fingers-crossed:
Again, thank you very much for your efforts and hope to see you guys again soon!

Sangsoo Ha said:
Oh.. I have never realized it. Thank you very much for the reply with details. :fingers-crossed: I really appreciate it sir
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From my experience,
1. AOSP rom (400-500mb) have more RAM than TW rom (300-400mb) after clearing all running apps.
2. Also depends on the launcher that you used. (NOVA seems lighter than the TW)
3. how many and what widget are you using on the launcher. (Widgets like apps, eat RAM!)
but if you still feel laggy or no way to clear the RAM after doing everything. Flash a better ROM...

Im using cm10.1 KeiraS,, memory free above 400-450mb :victory:

RAM Management and Caching of Apps issue

First of all, "I feel sorry for the people on MIUI Forums, disregarding every bug and making people feel as if we should pay Xiaomi for using their devices "
Coming to the point, we all are aware how bad MIUI is at multitasking on MI 3. Heck, I feel jealous of my Galaxy Core(2+ years old) having 1GB of RAM but still able to hold 3 CHROME tabs along with other apps at once.(My MI 3 on the other hand, -_- )
I am least bothered about the "low ram visible to us" thing people complain.I just want proper multtasking capability on my 2 GIGS of ram, and by multitasking, I mean background caching of apps.
Thus , me being a noob, need help to promote this thread so as to find a way ( like buildprop file tweak etc.) which we can use for the MEMORY MANAGEMENT problems on our STOCK MIUI Roms.
I really have lost all hope that we'll be getting proper sources for bug free ROMS, so this is a humble request to all capable developers that we have here.
Thanks in advance!! :fingers-crossed:

Mokee is really stable, worth trying.

Me_Ashish_ said:
Mokee is really stable, worth trying.
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Seconding this! :good:

Try metallium OS or EOS both are rock stable...and EOS also have OTA Updates.....!

Me_Ashish_ said:
Mokee is really stable, worth trying.
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+1

bluethilak said:
+1
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I agree that Some custom roms are swesome, mokee being one of them, but what I would really love is to have an multitasking improvement over Default MIUI ROM

thisisakash said:
I agree that Some custom roms are swesome, mokee being one of them, but what I would really love is to have an multitasking improvement over Default MIUI ROM
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Go in developer options, and set "memory optimisation" to "off"... You will see some difference.. But still i agree, miui is very bad at multitasking...

a.broken.star said:
Go in developer options, and set "memory optimisation" to "off"... You will see some difference.. But still i agree, MIUI is very bad at multitasking...
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Will doing that really help? Let me hope!
Changed the option to OFF.REBOOTED the device. Will test for one day, and let others know!

thisisakash said:
Will doing that really help? Let me hope!
Changed the option to OFF.REBOOTED the device. Will test for one day, and let others know!
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Yes, the multitasking will improve considerably..

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thisisakash said:
First of all, "I feel sorry for the people on MIUI Forums, disregarding every bug and making people feel as if we should pay Xiaomi for using their devices "
Coming to the point, we all are aware how bad MIUI is at multitasking on MI 3. Heck, I feel jealous of my Galaxy Core(2+ years old) having 1GB of RAM but still able to hold 3 CHROME tabs along with other apps at once.(My MI 3 on the other hand, -_- )
I am least bothered about the "low ram visible to us" thing people complain.I just want proper multtasking capability on my 2 GIGS of ram, and by multitasking, I mean background caching of apps.
Thus , me being a noob, need help to promote this thread so as to find a way ( like buildprop file tweak etc.) which we can use for the MEMORY MANAGEMENT problems on our STOCK MIUI Roms.
I really have lost all hope that we'll be getting proper sources for bug free ROMS, so this is a humble request to all capable developers that we have here.
Thanks in advance!! :fingers-crossed:
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So as an update, after changing Memory Optimisation to "NONE" , the situation has improved only by 8-10% or so, and the RAM management issue remains the same.So I am probably stuck with the phone for another year. Atleast the phone does not lag one bit.:angel:

thisisakash said:
So as an update, after changing Memory Optimisation to "NONE" , the situation has improved only by 8-10% or so, and the RAM management issue remains the same.So I am probably stuck with the phone for another year. Atleast the phone does not lag one bit.:angel:
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First thing I did when I got this phone, was to flash a custom ROM. I came form a Nexus 4, where very few people use the stock ROM.
Right now, there are plenty of excellent options for the Mi3.
I have been using EOS for about 2 months now, and I highly recommend it. I installed an app called Resource Monitor Pro, which allows you to display available RAM on the screen - I have positioned it to just next to the (centred) clock.
Between updating to later versions of this ROM, I have had 300 hours of uptime without any sort of lag, using all sorts of apps and games: RAM management has been exactly as expected - between 400mb and 600mb free. That is, the ROM is doing a good job of managing memory, killing old tasks and keeping recent tasks in memory until something else comes along.
If I were you, I would read up on how to get into the dangerously addictive world of custom ROMs...

Okay, one more solution if you want to stick to miui (as it is the most stable rom) and not lollipop roms.
Use a third party MiUi rom. These guys have really improved multitasking on the modded miui roms. I don't know if its allowed to post link here, but there you go :
http://m.romzj.com/rom/35835.htm

paul c said:
First thing I did when I got this phone, was to flash a custom ROM. I came form a Nexus 4, where very few people use the stock ROM.
Right now, there are plenty of excellent options for the Mi3.
I have been using EOS for about 2 months now, and I highly recommend it. I installed an app called Resource Monitor Pro, which allows you to display available RAM on the screen - I have positioned it to just next to the (centred) clock.
Between updating to later versions of this ROM, I have had 300 hours of uptime without any sort of lag, using all sorts of apps and games: RAM management has been exactly as expected - between 400mb and 600mb free. That is, the ROM is doing a good job of managing memory, killing old tasks and keeping recent tasks in memory until something else comes along.
If I were you, I would read up on how to get into the dangerously addictive world of custom ROMs...
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The only reason keeping me from trying a custom rom is a working camera with good pictures, and certain deal breaker bugs.Do you suggest to try the ROM inspite of the above?

thisisakash said:
The only reason keeping me from trying a custom rom is a working camera with good pictures, and certain deal breaker bugs.Do you suggest to try the ROM inspite of the above?
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Try the ROM that I posted the link to.. Its MiUi with some tweaks...

a.broken.star said:
Okay, one more solution if you want to stick to miui (as it is the most stable rom) and not lollipop roms.
Use a third party MiUi rom. These guys have really improved multitasking on the modded miui roms. I don't know if its allowed to post link here, but there you go :
http://m.romzj.com/rom/35835.htm
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You use the above ROM? Any reviews?

thisisakash said:
You use the above ROM? Any reviews?
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Yup.. I'm using it for past 2 weeks. Its very fast as compared to original miui.
1) multitasking is better. On original miui, suppose you have chrome opened with 3 tabs, you get a sms containing OTP, you open the msg, copy the OTP, switch back to chrome and you find that all three tabs start to load again, and whatever transaction you are in between on lost.
But in this ROM tabs dont reload. When you open a lot of apps together, then only old apps are closed automatically..
Try it.. You can flash it on your current MiUi without wiping system or data. Remember to flash Gapps after flashing this rom.. It dont have GApps built in..