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Flash Samsung firmware without Odin?

Sorry if this has already been answered.. I would like to flash some custom rom but in order to do so I have to upgrade my firmware version (which is I9000XXJF3 at the moment.) I have a rooted device and I have successfully flashed ROM manager and recovery image - ClockworkMod). But I believe it is not possible to use that tool in order to flash Samsung firmware upgrade. Am I wrong?
I cannot use odin as I am not a windows user. and Odin drivers are not at all installed on my vmware fusion XP virtual machine.
Is there ANY other way to do firmware upgrade without using Odin?
any help appreciated.
And a huge thanks to all the community.

I haven't found a way. though I do have a copy of windows laying around for testing web apps which is how I ended up flashing my sgs.
It'd be interesting if someone knows the protocol Odin and Kies use to connect with the device or at least maybe generate a common effort to reverse it so we can build drivers and a flash utility for other platforms

as far as i know, this it is not possible at the moment. i am no windows user myself but i managed to get odin running with a windozeXP running on a virtualbox under a ubuntu 10.04 guest os.
yeah, it's a pain in the ass but as soon as standalone custom roms appear we won't need odin any more. flashing out of the recovery makes much more sense!
CamonZ said:
It'd be interesting if someone knows the protocol Odin and Kies use to connect with the device or at least maybe generate a common effort to reverse it so we can build drivers and a flash utility for other platforms
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you could try to sniff the traffic on the usb port to reverse-engineer the protocol, but i guess it's not worth the effort because of the reason i stated above...

jodue said:
flashing out of the recovery makes much more sense!
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That it does, but that never stopped fastboot from being your best friend if anything went wrong. It's a pity Odin isn't as simple as fastboot, or that the SGS isn't fastboot-compatible. Sigh.

true. any clue when such roms are hittin the road?

unfnknblvbl said:
That it does, but that never stopped fastboot from being your best friend if anything went wrong. It's a pity Odin isn't as simple as fastboot, or that the SGS isn't fastboot-compatible. Sigh.
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very true! fastboot is (was) indeed a fine (backup) tool!
moderndrummer said:
true. any clue when such roms are hittin the road?
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i hope soon. samsung put the source on their site but nothing yet. makes me wondering ... i am currently trying to compile the kernel myself but it doesn't work out of the box with the information they provided, the build scripts are a little messed up... but i think it can not be long before someone cooks something up. there are also rumors that someone of the cyanogen-mod team started with the sgs
edit: i downloaded the source again today. it's some mb's bigger and this time it compiles like my gentoo in the good ol' day's

jodue said:
very true! fastboot is (was) indeed a fine (backup) tool!
i hope soon. samsung put the source on their site but nothing yet. makes me wondering ... i am currently trying to compile the kernel myself but it doesn't work out of the box with the information they provided, the build scripts are a little messed up... but i think it can not be long before someone cooks something up. there are also rumors that someone of the cyanogen-mod team started with the sgs
edit: i downloaded the source again today. it's some mb's bigger and this time it compiles like my gentoo in the good ol' day's
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waiting for your efforts.. and those of all others struggling to get a full rom cooked.

Any news??

Paul @ MoDaCo said his next release would be a version that didnt use Odin for flashing so try checking there....
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Search the forum here, there's a guy posting an ALPHA of some cross platform thing to replace Odin in just the last day or two. Last I read (yesterday or the day before) it was still windows only for testing, but he may have an OS X version out sooner than later.
It's called Heimlich or something along those lines...one of the Norse gods as he explains it.

distortedloop said:
Search the forum here, there's a guy posting an ALPHA of some cross platform thing to replace Odin in just the last day or two. Last I read (yesterday or the day before) it was still windows only for testing, but he may have an OS X version out sooner than later.
It's called Heimlich or something along those lines...one of the Norse gods as he explains it.
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Ah, found it browsing, it's Heimdall, and here's the thread.

distortedloop said:
Ah, found it browsing, it's Heimdall, and here's the thread.
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Yeah Heimdall not Heimlich
I actually made the first alpha release a while ago and have posted several updates since then. Anyway I'm releasing alpha 6 now (still Windows only). Once I can get some testers to test the Windows alpha 6 I will be making a official beta release for all platforms and I'll be releasing the source code.

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I new to flashing roms to the Vibrant, but WTF is odin, the only I can think of right of bat is a norse god or something like that.

[PRJ] CM6 system 8/27/2010 ALPHA

Here is the CM6 system built last night by me. Go ahead and do whatever you want with it. This is for those having issues building. Here it is
www.justanotherdev.slackdev.com/froyo.tgz
This is not a ready to flash ROM but just the system folder from the CM6 build for people to play with.
This is for devs looking to play with CM6 which was compiled for the vibrant and not just a generic build. This is NOT A READY TO FLASH ROM. I just built went to sleep and threw this up for people.
Enjoy!

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can we flash this through odin? pda?

skater991 said:
can we flash this through odin? pda?
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This is not a ready to flash ROM but just the system folder from the CM6 build
Honestly...

skater991 said:
can we flash this through odin? pda?
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maybe you shouldnt flash anything cause it seems you dont read thoroughly enough... one day youll miss a step and brick your phone lol

nice! , im gonna mess a bit with it.

DO IT SKATER! lol

nick_karstedt said:
DO IT SKATER! lol
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lol you should specify which one

The CyanogenMod Wiki Full Update Guide for the Samsung Vibrant
The CyanogenMod wiki has the instructions for the Full CM6 update. I am unable to post the link since I am a new member! I haven't flashed the ROM since I just got my phone last night.

skater4690 said:
lol you should specify which one
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LOL
10 char

skater991 said:
can we flash this through odin? pda?
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I couldn't help but smile at that.

skater991 said:
can we flash this through odin? pda?
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Use odin, you'll love the results

just flashed through cw, runs pretty smooth but needs work...
lol jk

98classic said:
just flashed through cw, runs pretty smooth but needs work...
lol jk
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Nice attempt at hiding that "lol jk"

chad658eku said:
The CyanogenMod wiki has the instructions for the Full CM6 update. I am unable to post the link since I am a new member! I haven't flashed the ROM since I just got my phone last night.
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Where was that indicated? There are only two how-tos on the Wiki for CM6 of relevance for Galaxy S/Vibrant: building the CM6 kernel from source, and updating the Galaxy S/Vibrant to CM6. However, the "Full Update Guide" includes the following caveat: NOTE: As of right now CyanogenMod is not available for the Samsung Vibrant.
There are no full instructions on the wiki for building CM6, nor for truly updating a Vibrant since CM6 has not been built for the Vibrant. You will also not find even an alpha release, nor any nightlies.
For those who don't understand why this is the case, or why flashing a ROM through Odin is different than through the recovery console, it's probably best to wait until there is a "one-click" for you ...

so many people are going to download this without realizing that this is for development only and not even for use yet

designerfx said:
so many people are going to download this without realizing that this is for development only and not even for use yet
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I agree but the OP seemed to be clear about it's intended use so it's buyer beware I feel...

rpcameron said:
For those who don't understand why this is the case, or why flashing a ROM through Odin is different than through the recovery console, it's probably best to wait until there is a "one-click" for you ...
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I semi understand that stuff but know my limits... But a huge THANKS!!! to those who do!!!
Patiently waiting for "one-click"....

Sorry if you took that as a genuine offer of advice, but it was meant as a sarcastic retort. People who don't understand what is technically involved in "rooting", what it means to "mount" a device or where the line between Linux and Android lays really have no basis in asking for aid when things go awry. (Sorry if I offend you, but seriously, you're asking for help in a development thread without knowing about which what you're actually asking for help? Really? Seriously?!)
No one has created a reliable method to fully supplant the Vibrant's recovery console, the OTA package that is normally used to flashed Android devices cannot be properly compiled and packaged for the Vibrant, users are still having issues building an AOSP directory structure—let alone a truly usable boot.img—and a complete system replacement is expected?! It really is no wonder why those really building apps and systems for various Android platforms avoid XDA, and leave it to those merely "cooking" as was previously the standard with WinMo.
(When is the interrobang going to be finally accepted as a true form of punctuation?! Really?!)

nice work, seems like a lot of devs are finally on this

rpcameron said:
Sorry if you took that as a genuine offer of advice, but it was meant as a sarcastic retort. People who don't understand what is technically involved in "rooting", what it means to "mount" a device or where the line between Linux and Android lays really have no basis in asking for aid when things go awry. (Sorry if I offend you, but seriously, you're asking for help in a development thread without knowing about which what you're actually asking for help? Really? Seriously?!)
No one has created a reliable method to fully supplant the Vibrant's recovery console, the OTA package that is normally used to flashed Android devices cannot be properly compiled and packaged for the Vibrant, users are still having issues building an AOSP directory structure—let alone a truly usable boot.img—and a complete system replacement is expected?! It really is no wonder why those really building apps and systems for various Android platforms avoid XDA, and leave it to those merely "cooking" as was previously the standard with WinMo.
(When is the interrobang going to be finally accepted as a true form of punctuation?! Really?!)
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People don't stay away from XDA because of the sometimes foolish questions people ask. They stay away because of the way they get treated by pompous d*cks like you that have no tolerance for people trying to learn and enjoy their devices more.
Everyone starts out without a clue and without help from others we'd all still be drooling on ourselves and sh*tting in our diapers.
Grow up and help out... or just go away.

[Q] Cyanogen Mod 7.1

Hi this is my first post. Im really sorry if Im posting this again and if I am just tell me to delete it and point me to the correct one.
So i want to install the Cyanogen mod 7.1 that was released yesterday onto my HTC incredible s. however since i have only just had it around a month i know very little about android rooting and how to do it.
My question is what guide should i use? is this the cyanogen mod good. i cna tpost it here it wouldnt let me.
if so i know doing so will void my warrenty and so is it like jailbreaking where all you have to do is restore to stock firmware?
Update: installed using this http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_Full_Update_Guide
worked like a charm
thank you very much.

incrediblealex said:
Hi this is my first post. Im really sorry if Im posting this again and if I am just tell me to delete it and point me to the correct one.
So i want to install the Cyanogen mod 7.1 that was released yesterday onto my HTC incredible s. however since i have only just had it around a month i know very little about android rooting and how to do it.
My question is what guide should i use? is this the cyanogen mod good. i cna tpost it here it wouldnt let me.
if so i know doing so will void my warrenty and so is it like jailbreaking where all you have to do is restore to stock firmware?
thank you very much.
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welcome to the forum. just remember, this forum is chock full of great info. when you have a question, more often then not your question has already been asked. always use the search button first to reduce clutter
this phone is one of the easiest phones to root. just head here. voila. that's it.
yes, cm7 is THAT good. definitely worth it. fast and prob the best battery life out of all the roms.
you can always get the phone back to it's original state for warranty purposes. always a good idea to do a backup immediately after you root.
have fun.

ok thank you very much. Does the guide on the CyanogenMod website include how to restore to stock if you have to send your phone in?

incrediblealex said:
ok thank you very much. Does the guide on the CyanogenMod website include how to restore to stock if you have to send your phone in?
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i don't think so. that info is, however, readily available in this forum. just do a search
come to think of it, i think all you have to do is revert to the stock rom that you just backed up after rooting. someone please correct me if i'm wrong.

Does anyone also know if the root method for the HTC incredible S is temp? Does that mean you cant turn off your device? I'm confused.

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Does anyone also know if the root method for the HTC incredible S is temp? Does that mean you cant turn off your device? I'm confused.
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no, it's not temporary. it will stay rooted until you unroot and return the device to stock/original state. why don't you try it out? it will be a good way to familiarize yourself with rooting, backing up, and restoring.

Hearing of the release of CM7 got me finally around of rooting my phone. This forum offers great tutorials and I managed to root is fairly easily. After rooting I was also asked wheter I wanted to flash CWM and I answered yes. Everything went OK and I was able to try CM7 after 30 minutes or so. The most time consuming operation was creating backup with CWM recovery.
But my opinion about CM7 isn't good. While I like the the effects and other neat customisation possibilities 3 thing turn me off.
First, I really love HTC's phone or dialler application which helps me find contacts by entering their number or trying to type their names. This is the single most useful thing invented on a telephone. As CM7 doesn't support that (only enterning numbers as far as I know) I will not use it.
Second, I wasn't able to connect to Exchange server for some reason
Third, Android Market shut itself down after 10 seconds and repeatedly kept doing that.
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PS. I would have liked to post this info to developers forums, but as I don't have rights, I couldn't.
I'm no noob to forums - I'm a veteran member of Estonia's leading IT forum of Hinnavaatlus.

weaselEST said:
Hearing of the release of CM7 got me finally around of rooting my phone. This forum offers great tutorials and I managed to root is fairly easily. After rooting I was also asked wheter I wanted to flash CWM and I answered yes. Everything went OK and I was able to try CM7 after 30 minutes or so. The most time consuming operation was creating backup with CWM recovery.
But my opinion about CM7 isn't good. While I like the the effects and other neat customisation possibilities 3 thing turn me off.
First, I really love HTC's phone or dialler application which helps me find contacts by entering their number or trying to type their names. This is the single most useful thing invented on a telephone. As CM7 doesn't support that (only enterning numbers as far as I know) I will not use it.
Second, I wasn't able to connect to Exchange server for some reason
Third, Android Market shut itself down after 10 seconds and repeatedly kept doing that.
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PS. I would have liked to post this info to developers forums, but as I don't have rights, I couldn't.
I'm no noob to forums - I'm a veteran member of Estonia's leading IT forum of Hinnavaatlus.
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The markets fixed by going in to language settings and selecting English again.
Exchange worked fine for me...
Download another dialer application..
I'd choose double the speed, battery life and ram any day over sense

lets not start cm7 vs sense. this thread will never end really, it comes down to individual preference and that's not something we can argue.
cm7 isn't prefect but it's close, imo.

Please recommend a dialer app and I will give it a try Dialer One maybe?
Thanks for the market tip.

weaselEST said:
Please recommend a dialer app and I will give it a try
Thanks for the market tip.
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try dialer one. it has the function you are looking for.

weaselEST said:
Please recommend a dialer app and I will give it a try
Thanks for the market tip.
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Dialer one, go contacts and touchpal dialer are all good.

syc7090 said:
no, it's not temporary. it will stay rooted until you unroot and return the device to stock/original state. why don't you try it out? it will be a good way to familiarize yourself with rooting, backing up, and restoring.
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Thanks again I'm going to try it out and report back on how I got on.

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Thanks again I'm going to try it out and report back on how I got on.
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sounds good. and there are guides in the dev forum if you need some assurance.

Cannot download anything from the Market for unknown reason. The download bar just scrolls endlessly.
E: Restart helped. Everything seems to be working just fine. Will give an estimate of battery usage in a few days time. And will test out Skype as well.

I feel as though the guides here need to be updated current one is from June. Not complaining just sayin is all.

itsbeertimenow said:
I feel as though the guides here need to be updated current one is from June. Not complaining just sayin is all.
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Yes, they could use some tweaking.
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Unable to sign in to Skype. Forums aren't very helpful too.

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Yes, they could use some tweaking.
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Unable to sign in to Skype. Forums aren't very helpful too.
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Yeah I think they need updating. From what I can work out the root for the HTC IS is not temp but the guide says it is?

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Yeah I think they need updating. From what I can work out the root for the HTC IS is not temp but the guide says it is?
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What do you mean exactly? After restarting my phone is still S-OFF (if you asked that).

weaselEST said:
What do you mean exactly? After restarting my phone is still S-OFF (if you asked that).
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Well I think the HTC incredible S was a temp root but from what I can work out and what you have and others have said it is not. I haven't tried it yet but I'm going to tonight.

[Q] Getting a stock .KDZ file

Hello,
I managed to bootloop my 4XHD (yay!), and I'm just trying to restore it to the stock firmware. The phone was rooted of course, I don't have CWM though if that makes any difference. Anyway I'm following this "super in-depth guide" on how to flash it, and it says I'll need a KDZ file that I want to flash. I have no clue where to get one though, so any help here would be appreciated. Also if you've got any tips on what I should be careful of when flashing, please let me know.
Cheers,
Hathz

You have no clue cause probably you didn't read all the thread...
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RuedasLocas said:
You have no clue cause probably you didn't read all the thread...
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Mhm, well I would kind of assume the information is stated in the tutorial (hence it's called a tutorial). Anyway, I got a KDZ from lg-phone-firmware and it looks like it sucessfully flashed V10A Euro Open (not quite sure when to know cause the dumb program doesn't say anything , but I assume it's done since It's basically turned on and I'm in the android basic setup screen).
Anyway there really should be some information in big red bold text in that topic for dump people like me, saying like "HERE U CAN HAZ FIRMWARE".
Will post again after I confirm that flash is sucessful and the phone is ready to be (ab)used again!

The phone seems to be working fine, I've already updated to V10F.
Anyway as I said, perhaps a huge link to the lg-phone-firmware would be a nice thing to have on that topic

Hathz said:
The phone seems to be working fine, I've already updated to V10F.
Anyway as I said, perhaps a huge link to the lg-phone-firmware would be a nice thing to have on that topic
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Once that you're using the Euro_open, probably is better to upgrade to V10G.
I didn't saw any difference but, some persons said they noted some improvement...
It's up to you, now you know how to do it
And you're partly right about the tutorial.
Its a litle messed, starting with the phone name, etc... but, the OP should edit that, to someone else post another one, even if better, is a "little" against the forum rules (double posting).
Maybe one day some moderator do something about that

Hathz said:
Hello,
I managed to bootloop my 4XHD (yay!), and I'm just trying to restore it to the stock firmware. The phone was rooted of course, I don't have CWM though if that makes any difference. Anyway I'm following this "super in-depth guide" on how to flash it, and it says I'll need a KDZ file that I want to flash. I have no clue where to get one though, so any help here would be appreciated. Also if you've got any tips on what I should be careful of when flashing, please let me know.
Cheers,
Hathz
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Guess, search is new word for you, so enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34392971&postcount=1

TWRP 2.6

After all this discussion about TWRP incompatibility with 4.3 roms, I decided to go to the Team Win site and see. It seems that TWRP 2.6 is tweaked to work with new roms, but when I did a search to find it for the Exhibit, nothing came up. I guess we are meant to use a version written for another device, but I do not know which one I should use. If anyone could point me to the correct download, I would greatly appreciate it.

Proud2banoob said:
After all this discussion about TWRP incompatibility with 4.3 roms, I decided to go to the Team Win site and see. It seems that TWRP 2.6 is tweaked to work with new roms, but when I did a search to find it for the Exhibit, nothing came up. I guess we are meant to use a version written for another device, but I do not know which one I should use. If anyone could point me to the correct download, I would greatly appreciate it.
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You won't be able to use a different devices version. Just have to wait until someone finds time to compile it for this phone. I haven't had any luck yet building for my tablet, or I would give it a go.

meekrawb said:
You won't be able to use a different devices version. Just have to wait until someone finds time to compile it for this phone. I haven't had any luck yet building for my tablet, or I would give it a go.
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bummer. thanks. patience is a virtue.
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