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I have been on xda since my hero days so its been a few years. Didn't join til too long ago. Made some good pals along the way and learned tons.
So far this forum for me is a breath of fresh air. The phone forums are so full of hate, trolls, attacks, name calling, disrespecting developer's work and the usual douche stuff.
Of course its here too, just no where near as bad yet. Yet. I hope it stays that way because its so much nicer to thank people than report them.
This may be a gay post but some mods fell the same way. Anyway, glad I got the n7 and glad I'm here.
From the Note to Nexus 7

sprintuser1977 said:
I have been on xda since my hero days so its been a few years. Didn't join til too long ago. Made some good pals along the way and learned tons.
So far this forum for me is a breath of fresh air. The phone forums are so full of hate, trolls, attacks, name calling, disrespecting developer's work and the usual douche stuff.
Of course its here too, just no where near as bad yet. Yet. I hope it stays that way because its so much nicer to thank people than report them.
This may be a gay post but some mods fell the same way. Anyway, glad I got the n7 and glad I'm here.
From the Note to Nexus 7
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Gay ?
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Saw that coming a mile away...

Yeah this has been awesome, reminds me of the HD2 forums, at least back when nand android became available, the vivid forums are crazy, these ones are nice.

This forum and the AT&T One X forums have been the best. The OG EVO 4G forums were good in the beginning but it got worse and worse over time. Same thing goes for the Epic 4G Touch. I know I'm guilty of some warranted snarky responses from time to time (Search first!) but I never actually attack anybody on a personal level like I've seen in some other subforums. We are all here for the same purpose so why can't we all just get along?

sprintuser1977 said:
I have been on xda since my hero days so its been a few years. Didn't join til too long ago. Made some good pals along the way and learned tons.
So far this forum for me is a breath of fresh air. The phone forums are so full of hate, trolls, attacks, name calling, disrespecting developer's work and the usual douche stuff.
Of course its here too, just no where near as bad yet. Yet. I hope it stays that way because its so much nicer to thank people than report them.
This may be a gay post but some mods fell the same way. Anyway, glad I got the n7 and glad I'm here.
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Hey I remember you from the Evo 4G forums! =D

Just be glad this isn't like the prime forum was in its earlier days..lol. nexus 7 forum is cool. Since I'm unlocked and running custom kernel, I'm more into developement scene now. Never any issues in there. Only everyone working together to put out the best/most stable stuff. NEXUS 7 is an aAzimg little 7in. Tablet. I would've never thought the experience on it would be this good.

Give it time. This forum will degrade just like every single other forum on here.
Not trying to trash XDA, but it just isn't the same community it used to be.

nickmv said:
Give it time. This forum will degrade just like every single other forum on here.
Not trying to trash XDA, but it just isn't the same community it used to be.
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Yep, the more popular a device gets, the more trolling and flaming becomes a problem. It's inevitable.

XDA is legit in general, probably one of the nicest put together forums on the web. The new layout really sets it off.
sprintuser1977 said:
I have been on xda since my hero days so its been a few years. Didn't join til too long ago. Made some good pals along the way and learned tons.
So far this forum for me is a breath of fresh air. The phone forums are so full of hate, trolls, attacks, name calling, disrespecting developer's work and the usual douche stuff.
Of course its here too, just no where near as bad yet. Yet. I hope it stays that way because its so much nicer to thank people than report them.
This may be a gay post but some mods fell the same way. Anyway, glad I got the n7 and glad I'm here.
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Gay ?
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LOL. We know you're not gay dude, it's cool. :good:

When your getting the latest updates and everything is flowing as promise there's nothing to ***** about ... besides to Google ...
Its when you go on the older threads where people are angry because they can't get a working ICS build or even a jelly bean .. or too many noobs bricking their devices
It will turn in to that ... after time
The Epic 4G touch forums got real nasty after ICS n the brick montage
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Yep, the more popular a device gets, the more trolling and flaming becomes a problem. It's inevitable.
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Shoulda been here 6 years ago.
It was all fields and everyone used to be on first name terms with each other.
Then the devices came, then they got popular then the neighbourhood went to pot.

>Then the devices came, then they got popular then the neighbourhood went to pot.
Why, when I was your age...
Pining for the golden yesteryear is a popular pasttime, but it's usually distorted by people's selective memory. Reminescing is futile anyway. What matters is how XDA manages the additional influx while still retaining some semblance of its core identity, and not let itself lapsed into another generic techie hang-out.
The dev sub-forum restrictions have been the main instrument in that. But it would be nice to see more care in other areas. The site's UI and layout was never good--check out the classic vs 2010 vs 2013 beta layouts--and now has turned for the worse.
We're not just talking about personal preference for aesthetics, but dirt-basic design concepts like text reflows vs fixed-width. The basic web UI now has orange-on-white. Who thinks up this stuff?
It would also be nice to see more creative solutions to navigate the huge traffic volume and decreasing sig2noise ratio. The most-recent-on-top scheme and the encouragement of long threads effectively bury most valuable info, as informative threads tend to have few inputs, and are pushed off by argumentative or more inane material. I suppose XDA is shackled by its forum software here, but one can hope for better.
Then again, maybe not.

I was a regular over at the SGT7 forums for a few months, didn't see too much name calling and stuff like that.

e.mote said:
>Then the devices came, then they got popular then the neighbourhood went to pot.
Why, when I was your age...
Pining for the golden yesteryear is a popular pasttime, but it's usually distorted by people's selective memory
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Don't take this the wrong way but when the US market opened up the s/n ratio plummeted.
Kids will be kids, wherever, but the US teen speaks a dialect of English and this is a predominantly English forum.
There are many native French & German / Nordic fora although many non native English speakers from Europe speak and type better English than many English teenagers and have better manners.
Sign o the times
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hullbay said:
XDA is legit in general, probably one of the nicest put together forums on the web. The new layout really sets it off.
LOL. We know you're not gay dude, it's cool. :good:
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I'm not? Would it matter ?

Yeah the vivid forums make me me cry
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>Don't take this the wrong way but when the US market opened up the s/n ratio plummeted.
I live in the US, although I'm not a native, so I empathize both sides of the coin.
That said, attributing the deterioration of online communication to any nationality or ethnic group isn't a grounded argument. English is still the lingua franca of the Internet at this point, and the US user population is still the largest group. Failings from them tend to be magnified by their numbers.
I agree that there is a marked decline in social/communicative exchanges online. It's a little sad to see people don't even bother to correct obvious spelling mistakes, let alone correct grammar. Any attempt to better such is derided as grammar nazis.
But it is what it is, and it reflects the population at large, who also exhibited a marked decline in analytic thinking and social discourse. No amount of handwringing or reminescing will change that. And it is an equal-opportunity malaise in that it affects every online population, not just the US population.

It's kind of sad...
It's a bit like saying the Nexus 7 forums only murders 10 innocent children a week so it's not as bad as other forums who murders at least 100 innocent children and their mothers on a weekly basis.
It's unfortunate but unless the moderators are extremely active (and well-staffed) chances are the trolls will ruin it for everyone sooner or later.
Especially now it's the summer and there is nothing pimply-faced 13-year-olds like to do more than to troll forums in between playing the latest shooter on their MicroSony PlayBox, stuffing themselves with greasy pizza and masturbate.

e.mote said:
it is an equal-opportunity malaise in that it affects every online population, not just the US population.
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Amen and pass the ammunition!
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Google aware of battery issue

Guys-found this link where google acknowledges Nexus 5 has excess battery drain and will try and address:
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-worki...android-devices-kitkat-qualcomm-chips-1559771

Docarut said:
Guys-found this link where google acknowledges Nexus 5 has excess battery drain and will try and address:
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-worki...android-devices-kitkat-qualcomm-chips-1559771
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Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
sent from my neXus 5

Yes, google has indeed accepted this bug and working on a fix for it in the next update. However, they haven't exactly given a timeline for the next update!
Source: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=60058#c475

Think it should be made clear that its caused by the Camera.... if you don't see " mm-qcamera-daemon" in your battery , you don't have excessive drain
Its not going to be a miracle shot for amazing battery life on the N5 .

OuncE718 said:
Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
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Thanks for letting me know, I will keep that in mind. Feel free to delete my post if next to useless.

Docarut said:
Thanks for letting me know, I will keep that in mind. Feel free to delete my post if next to useless.
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You're welcome and your post isn't necessarily useless. It will help others that may have had the same question as yourself.
Credible sites that I love to go on are www.Androidpolice.com, www.Engadget.com & www.Phonedog.com[url]
Of course th...e the ones I use daily.
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Anyone getting excessive drain from Google+ in getting it on all my nexus devices (2012,2013 and 5)
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Google said that it can't provide a timeline for when the update would be released “due to all the testing we need to do for this and other fixes.”
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Come on IBTimes, first rule of IBTimes: no ETAs! ?

OuncE718 said:
Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
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HU bro?!

I've been having poor battery the past few days. 4-5 hrs unplugged, 1 hour screen, 2-3 hours playing music and it went to 20%. Used to only use up 30-40% last week.
Will have to monitor closely.
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kidrobot52 said:
Anyone getting excessive drain from Google+ in getting it on all my nexus devices (2012,2013 and 5)
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Yes.... It just started a couple days ago
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Blario said:
HU bro?!
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I'm confused. What's "HU"?
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OuncE718 said:
I'm confused. What's "HU"?
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That answers it

Blario said:
That answers it
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That answers what? What does "HU" mean?
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ilostmypistons said:
Yes.... It just started a couple days ago
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I've restricted so permissions for it in app ops. Just charged my phone so I'm going to see if it does it again.
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No battery issues here. A day and half with 6 hours screen time is the norm.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

ibtimes?
Funny coincidence -- I wrote that article on the Nexus 5. I came into the forum looking for more hardware hacks like the one where you drill holes into the back of the Nexus 5, since I just broke my screen and was wondering if there was anything else I could tinker with while my case was open to make the N5 better. Couldn't find anything, but was happy to see someone shared my story.
Then, I saw @OuncE718's warning about the site I work for.
All I can say is that I stand by my reporting. My stories are factual, and trustworthy. I strive to adhere to the Society for Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics. (sorry for being long-winded, but I just want to start a dialogue).
I presented the facts as they appeared in that Google forum, and informed readers who didn't know about that particular battery life issue, as well as the Google's awareness of the issue -- and the project manager's comments on the matter.
The reason I didn't provide a timeline is because Google refuses to give a timeline for the fix -- it will likely appear in the 4.4.3 or a future release of Android. However, rather than speculating on that, I presented the facts. The truth is, Google doesn't know exactly when they will fix it.
Since I am in contact with Google's media relations, I can sometimes get answers to questions. More often than not, I am writing about something that Google can't talk about, like a future release, and they will not respond. However, especially when it considers issues that have not been brought to their attention, they will reach out to me and provide a statement. I would appreciate it if everybody here considered me a resource. The reason that I became a writer was to provide a public service when I can.
I want readers to be able to read my stories, and have some faith that I am doing my best to inform them truthfully.
If anyone has something newsworthy they would like to talk about, questions (or criticisms) about one of my stories, or a tip for something that they think would make a good story, I suggest you reach out to me on Twitter (@TommyLikey) or via email. Use my first initial (my name is Tom), then a period, then halleck at ibtimes dot com.
I write for the tech team. We strive to do good work, and I can't answer for the organization as a whole, but I can tell you that in my experience, it is filled with smart people who are trying to turn a newer news organization into something that we, and you our readers, can be proud of.
I am interested in your thoughts, concerns and criticisms.

ToiletSalesman said:
Funny coincidence -- I wrote that article on the Nexus 5. I came into the forum looking for more hardware hacks like the one where you drill holes into the back of the Nexus 5, since I just broke my screen and was wondering if there was anything else I could tinker with while my case was open to make the N5 better. Couldn't find anything, but was happy to see someone shared my story.
Then, I saw @OuncE718's warning about the site I work for.
All I can say is that I stand by my reporting. My stories are factual, and trustworthy. I strive to adhere to the Society for Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics. (sorry for being long-winded, but I just want to start a dialogue).
I presented the facts as they appeared in that Google forum, and informed readers who didn't know about that particular battery life issue, as well as the Google's awareness of the issue -- and the project manager's comments on the matter.
The reason I didn't provide a timeline is because Google refuses to give a timeline for the fix -- it will likely appear in the 4.4.3 or a future release of Android. However, rather than speculating on that, I presented the facts. The truth is, Google doesn't know exactly when they will fix it.
Since I am in contact with Google's media relations, I can sometimes get answers to questions. More often than not, I am writing about something that Google can't talk about, like a future release, and they will not respond. However, especially when it considers issues that have not been brought to their attention, they will reach out to me and provide a statement. I would appreciate it if everybody here considered me a resource. The reason that I became a writer was to provide a public service when I can.
I want readers to be able to read my stories, and have some faith that I am doing my best to inform them truthfully.
If anyone has something newsworthy they would like to talk about, questions (or criticisms) about one of my stories, or a tip for something that they think would make a good story, I suggest you reach out to me on Twitter (@TommyLikey) or via email. Use my first initial (my name is Tom), then a period, then halleck at ibtimes dot com.
I write for the tech team. We strive to do good work, and I can't answer for the organization as a whole, but I can tell you that in my experience, it is filled with smart people who are trying to turn a newer news organization into something that we, and you our readers, can be proud of.
I am interested in your thoughts, concerns and criticisms.
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I never discredited you but I definitely discredited the site you work for. In my experience ibtimes has made a good amount of useless articles. There has been nothing credible that I have read from ibtimes.
Androidpolice.com has been way more credible in my experience. Maybe it's your colleagues that have written these useless articles. Idk
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Well, I apologize for those useless stories. I would just say, feel free to discredit me if I am doing wrong. The reason I put the link to that message board in the story was to provide a source for the story. Let me know if anybody here has any ideas or questions, and know that I and my team are striving to be a reliable source for news.
If you have a problem with a story, you can (almost) always reach out to the reporter.

4.4.3 Thread Locking

Don't see the point in locking any thread that pops up about the bad journalism again today. I mean the general forum is for that...has always been the garbage collector for the forums. Seems kind of communistic of XDA to have its mods do that. Just makes no sense. Well it does make sense considering how XDA has been migrating the last years or so.

It's because threads pop up like weeds everywhere. People can't just reply, they have to start another thread and it gets out of hand.
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I like how you presented your argument in a manner that was only constructive and not designed to just irritate the moderators or make them upset. That is what shows off what a mature and polished person you are. Kudos. High class!

cobhc said:
It's because threads pop up like weeds everywhere. People can't just reply, they have to start another thread and it gets out of hand.
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So merge the threads. I'm not sure why commenting about T-Mobile updating their site to show the 4.4.3 update is illegal. The threads will continue to pop up because every other thread gets locked and there can never be any discussion.

In b4 lock also reported.
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cobhc said:
It's because threads pop up like weeds everywhere. People can't just reply, they have to start another thread and it gets out of hand.
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It doesnt get out of hand. They pop up...users chat and communicate then they fizzle out. Always do. No reason to go straight into communist mode.

I keep hoping they ban for breaking rule 1 I think communist mode would be fantastic for this place.
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tullnd said:
I like how you presented your argument in a manner that was only constructive and not designed to just irritate the moderators or make them upset. That is what shows off what a mature and polished person you are. Kudos. High class!
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I have my reasons. Kudos to you as well.

TheCybertronian said:
I keep hoping they ban for breaking rule 1 I think communist mode would be fantastic for this place.
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It is already in communist mode.

Not even close this place is still noon haven and chaos. They need stricter rules and enforcement.
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TheCybertronian said:
Not even close this place is still noon haven and chaos. They need stricter rules and enforcement.
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All these sites have noobs. Noobs turn into Devs in the future.

No noobs stay noobs driven users know how to search and read. I've never seen a noob go Dev.
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'Communists' shut you down, 'capitalists' make you look like fool or crazy person.
It's the only difference...

motcher41 said:
It is already in communist mode.
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I'm of the mind that you have to fit in with the community you share, not the other way around. If you opt to join a community that doesn't work how you want it to, then you need to simply find a different one. It's not an emotional thing, nobody hates anyone else, it's just a matter of fitting in socially.
XDA keeps a tight reign on thread topics, content, and direction. That is the decision of the community moderators and thus, the community at large needs to abide by it. If any of us don't like it, then we can move on to find somewhere that better suits what we're looking for.
I've been here for a while (contrary to my 2010 date), and I've seen the moderators back in the day let many, many things slide and it could get really chaotic, really fast. I remember when ICS hit, there was a point where I had to go 3 pages in to get past the multiple topics of ICS release, it was crazy. Also, the moderators are here on free time, and if you've never moderated a community of this size, I'll simply say that "merging topics" can take awhile when you're talking about 30-40 (which happens if you don't keep on top of it). They do their best, lock what they can when they can, and move on with life.
for the TL;DR crowd, it is what it is, if you don't like it, it's time to move on.

I joined a community back then that sadly has been migrating to the negative way IMHO. Used to be a contributor that helped people regardless of if its a dumb repeated question asked 100 times. Sadly...its not like that anymore.
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but I think its about conditioning users to not post stuff like that. Just doesn't bring any value. Even when one thread is left open to discuss rumors people keep posting to it for updates until it finally happens.

TheCybertronian said:
No noobs stay noobs driven users know how to search and read. I've never seen a noob go Dev.
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every single dev here was a noob. i know because i was here a few weeks before android was released(got my g1 2 weeks prior to release), and i personally helped a countless amount of people that have become "devs" here, when they were noobs. id say most devs here were noobs within the last 5 years.

So why don't the mods make a future firmware thread for discussion. This way it's all in one place.
I came from the note 3 and I swear there was thread for every firmware for every region. The mods did little and it was a huge mess.
Ended up not looking in the General section ever again.
Also they would post a new thread for cyanogenmod every time they saw it mentioned on the internet.
But I would like to see one thread for discussion.
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simms22 said:
every single dev here was a noob. i know because i was here a few weeks before android was released(got my g1 2 weeks prior to release), and i personally helped a countless amount of people that have become "devs" here, when they were noobs. id say most devs here were noobs within the last 5 years.
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No those aren't noobs they are driven users, noobs don't care about advancing or doing more. They just want their answer nothing more. I learned by SEARCHING AND READING not creating a thousand threads on any of my old accounts.
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Uhh, a free forum where anyone is allowed to register and post having rules enforced is communism?
When was the last time you read anything by Karl Marx???

How can we make the XDA forums better?

I figured since we turned this forum into a Questions forum with up and down voting for each answer, I'd ask:
How can we make the XDA forums better?​
No answer is too outlandish...be creative. We're listening!
Maybe you think we have too many ads, or maybe you think search totally sucks. Perhaps you want more theme options, or you want more ways to learn development. Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!

Do something to get rid of the elitism that permeates so many forums here at XDA. This drives away new users who would otherwise want to participate in the community. It also drives away old users who used to participate more.
Source: an old user who used to participate more.

Jaxidian said:
Do something to get rid of the elitism that permeates so many forums here at XDA. This drives away new users who would otherwise want to participate in the community. It also drives away old users who used to participate more.
Source: an old user who used to participate more.
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"Elites"? Buzz words are useless; specific details/incidents/threads please.
Anytime everyone agrees, something is usually very wrong.
Censorship kills sites.
Losing "elite" keystone members kills sites.
Censorship kills sites... an occasional flamewar is desirable. Real life is much worse; dumbing down a site kills it every time.

Couldn't search by device in XDA forums since this new design update . In old UI device I could search device from the search icon in top right.

juned.khatri31 said:
Couldn't search by device in XDA forums since this new design update . In old UI device I could search device from the search icon in top right.
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i can search for a device in the top right search bar with no issues..

DSA said:
i can search for a device in the top right search bar with no issues..
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Can't easily find the Galaxy S4+ or S4+ in fact I didn't find either.
It's convoluted, at best.

Please bring back the XDA Labs app. I found the app perfect! I cant get used too the newer app even after using it for quite some time now. It feels... i dont know. Right now i am using firefox for accessing xda.

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Can't easily find the Galaxy S4+ or S4+ in fact I didn't find either.
It's convoluted, at best.
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Ive never heard of the s4plus, i used to own and develop for the s4 too
all the s4 forums:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506
The Galaxy S 4 is Samsung's flagship device for 2013. The S 4 ups the ante of its predecessor thanks to a 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display (PenTile 441 ppi), a pseudo octa-core Samsung Exynos 5410 or quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (depending on region), 2 gigs of RAM, up to 64 gigs of storage...
forum.xda-developers.com

DSA said:
Ive never heard of the s4plus, i used to own and develop for the s4 too
all the s4 forums:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506
The Galaxy S 4 is Samsung's flagship device for 2013. The S 4 ups the ante of its predecessor thanks to a 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display (PenTile 441 ppi), a pseudo octa-core Samsung Exynos 5410 or quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (depending on region), 2 gigs of RAM, up to 64 gigs of storage...
forum.xda-developers.com
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It's the active variant of the S4 made exclusively for AT&T. Hence little support.

blackhawk said:
"Elites"? Buzz words are useless; specific details/incidents/threads please.
Anytime everyone agrees, something is usually very wrong.
Censorship kills sites.
Losing "elite" keystone members kills sites.
Censorship kills sites... an occasional flamewar is desirable. Real life is much worse; dumbing down a site kills it every time.
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Here you go. I just quoted an elitist response. The OP asked for "Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!" and when I offered an idea, this response called it "useless".

Jaxidian said:
Here you go. I just quoted an elitist response. The OP asked for "Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!" and when I offered an idea, this response called it "useless".
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You generalized. An invalid argument because of your statement's ubiquity.
No example, no details, then attack me for pointing out your flawed reasoning. Perfect.

blackhawk said:
You generalized. An invalid argument because of your statement's ubiquity.
No example, no details, then attack me for pointing out your flawed reasoning. Perfect.
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I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.

Jaxidian said:
I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
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You offered no tangible problems or solutions just a buzzword for something you alleged to exist here. No evidence to back you your claim or specifically what the "elitists" do to destroy the site.
That offends me. Vagueness is a common troll and political tactic.

Jaxidian said:
I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
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blackhawk said:
You offered no tangible problems or solutions just a buzzword for something you alleged to exist here. No evidence to back you your claim or specifically what the "elitists" do to destroy the site.
That offends me. Vagueness is a common troll and political tactic.
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Guys, please stay on topic

I would like, to have some sections, where people can learn modding, learn how to do proggraming for type of stuff we do here on xda.
usualy, someone post some amaizing tool, but it would be even more amaizing if there is separate section for developers who want to learn, deep inside of android system, how to mod it, code some useful software for it, etc
in these times, where all manufacturers are locking bootloaders, or completely ditching bootloader, so it can be unclocked, it encourages lack of experimentation android was before, because people have locked phones and xda forums isn't popular as it once was, there are no more amaizing things, and even if you want to try to make amaizing thing, you can't because there are no resources to learn android. manufacturers, make everything more locked, android is becoming iOS for some reason.
so basically, i would like to have section, like on stackoverflow, but to be focused on android modding, and questions people ask, how they can learn it. (as stackexchange android enthusiasts suck, and it's just that, enthusiasts, but not developers, programmers who want to learn and ask qusetions)
that would make this community useful, for developers.
usual questions, like Q&A is okay, but just want separate section, where real professional people look. (just look, at Q&A, full of regular people who have no clue, and not even read guide, all those questions can be solved with existing guides on XDA, and even if can't, then phone is hard bricked, or question is just trash, and that me, and i believe many others, programmers, professionals, drive back from it, we need quality questions where programmers can look for to help fellow programmer.
and, with this, upwote and downwote, it would be a good idea, as, in those special programming threads, programmers would be able to see most useful answer.
with all people bashing here, this became some low quality, chat forum, i wish we can make it more quality focused, but still noob frinendly, so it have sections for noobs (existing Q&A), and expert section
And what @Jaxidian complained, this would be solution, as sometimes experienced people don't have patience for noob question (they just say "why you don't search first before posting"), those people who answer that way, just wish they could answer and help someone more experienced struggling and not answer same questions from noobs that don't research before posting. (if someone is noob, he becomes even bigger noob if he ask for something that has been asked milion times on same platform)
my 50 cents

A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...

blackhawk said:
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
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Or limit the forums new members can post to just Q and A subforums.

My observation is that in the Q&A forum regularly - almost daily - the same problem (e.g. data recovery for bricked device, rooting device, bypass FRP lock) is presented by different users and asked for a solution proposal: in my eyes a nonsense.
My recommendation: The Q&A forum should have sub-forums for this.
Also, I do not understand why 2 Q&A forums exist, namely Q&A and Q&A->H&T. Users do not distinguish between them.

Please bring back the XDA Labs app.

blackhawk said:
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
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I think that's an interesting idea, but nothing will make a new user more upset than a waiting period. In 2021, people expect instant access and quick gratification. If we were the only phones community, I would agree with you, but if I was a newb and registered then had a waiting period, I'd say "screw it, my problem is important. i'm going to reddit/AndroidCentral/somewhere else"
Sarticle said:
Please bring back the XDA Labs app.
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That's not going to happen unless a team of developers steps forth to fully take over its development.

How can we make the XDA forums better?

I figured since we turned this forum into a Questions forum with up and down voting for each answer, I'd ask:
How can we make the XDA forums better?​
No answer is too outlandish...be creative. We're listening!
Maybe you think we have too many ads, or maybe you think search totally sucks. Perhaps you want more theme options, or you want more ways to learn development. Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!

Do something to get rid of the elitism that permeates so many forums here at XDA. This drives away new users who would otherwise want to participate in the community. It also drives away old users who used to participate more.
Source: an old user who used to participate more.

Jaxidian said:
Do something to get rid of the elitism that permeates so many forums here at XDA. This drives away new users who would otherwise want to participate in the community. It also drives away old users who used to participate more.
Source: an old user who used to participate more.
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"Elites"? Buzz words are useless; specific details/incidents/threads please.
Anytime everyone agrees, something is usually very wrong.
Censorship kills sites.
Losing "elite" keystone members kills sites.
Censorship kills sites... an occasional flamewar is desirable. Real life is much worse; dumbing down a site kills it every time.

Couldn't search by device in XDA forums since this new design update . In old UI device I could search device from the search icon in top right.

juned.khatri31 said:
Couldn't search by device in XDA forums since this new design update . In old UI device I could search device from the search icon in top right.
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i can search for a device in the top right search bar with no issues..

DSA said:
i can search for a device in the top right search bar with no issues..
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Can't easily find the Galaxy S4+ or S4+ in fact I didn't find either.
It's convoluted, at best.

Please bring back the XDA Labs app. I found the app perfect! I cant get used too the newer app even after using it for quite some time now. It feels... i dont know. Right now i am using firefox for accessing xda.

blackhawk said:
Can't easily find the Galaxy S4+ or S4+ in fact I didn't find either.
It's convoluted, at best.
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Ive never heard of the s4plus, i used to own and develop for the s4 too
all the s4 forums:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506
The Galaxy S 4 is Samsung's flagship device for 2013. The S 4 ups the ante of its predecessor thanks to a 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display (PenTile 441 ppi), a pseudo octa-core Samsung Exynos 5410 or quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (depending on region), 2 gigs of RAM, up to 64 gigs of storage...
forum.xda-developers.com

DSA said:
Ive never heard of the s4plus, i used to own and develop for the s4 too
all the s4 forums:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 i9500, i9505, i9505G, i9506
The Galaxy S 4 is Samsung's flagship device for 2013. The S 4 ups the ante of its predecessor thanks to a 5" 1080p Super AMOLED display (PenTile 441 ppi), a pseudo octa-core Samsung Exynos 5410 or quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (depending on region), 2 gigs of RAM, up to 64 gigs of storage...
forum.xda-developers.com
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It's the active variant of the S4 made exclusively for AT&T. Hence little support.

blackhawk said:
"Elites"? Buzz words are useless; specific details/incidents/threads please.
Anytime everyone agrees, something is usually very wrong.
Censorship kills sites.
Losing "elite" keystone members kills sites.
Censorship kills sites... an occasional flamewar is desirable. Real life is much worse; dumbing down a site kills it every time.
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Here you go. I just quoted an elitist response. The OP asked for "Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!" and when I offered an idea, this response called it "useless".

Jaxidian said:
Here you go. I just quoted an elitist response. The OP asked for "Whatever your idea is, we want to hear it!" and when I offered an idea, this response called it "useless".
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You generalized. An invalid argument because of your statement's ubiquity.
No example, no details, then attack me for pointing out your flawed reasoning. Perfect.

blackhawk said:
You generalized. An invalid argument because of your statement's ubiquity.
No example, no details, then attack me for pointing out your flawed reasoning. Perfect.
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I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.

Jaxidian said:
I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
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Click to collapse
You offered no tangible problems or solutions just a buzzword for something you alleged to exist here. No evidence to back you your claim or specifically what the "elitists" do to destroy the site.
That offends me. Vagueness is a common troll and political tactic.

Jaxidian said:
I simply offered an opinion in response to the OP asking for opinions. I'm sorry my opinion has offended you so much. I stand by it. Elitist behaviors where people attack another just because they think their opinion is inferior is the exact kind of thing I was referring to. And you are demonstrating it admirably.
And by the way, I never once argued anything. You are the one doing the arguing. And you're welcome to continue. I'm done with you.
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Click to collapse
blackhawk said:
You offered no tangible problems or solutions just a buzzword for something you alleged to exist here. No evidence to back you your claim or specifically what the "elitists" do to destroy the site.
That offends me. Vagueness is a common troll and political tactic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guys, please stay on topic

I would like, to have some sections, where people can learn modding, learn how to do proggraming for type of stuff we do here on xda.
usualy, someone post some amaizing tool, but it would be even more amaizing if there is separate section for developers who want to learn, deep inside of android system, how to mod it, code some useful software for it, etc
in these times, where all manufacturers are locking bootloaders, or completely ditching bootloader, so it can be unclocked, it encourages lack of experimentation android was before, because people have locked phones and xda forums isn't popular as it once was, there are no more amaizing things, and even if you want to try to make amaizing thing, you can't because there are no resources to learn android. manufacturers, make everything more locked, android is becoming iOS for some reason.
so basically, i would like to have section, like on stackoverflow, but to be focused on android modding, and questions people ask, how they can learn it. (as stackexchange android enthusiasts suck, and it's just that, enthusiasts, but not developers, programmers who want to learn and ask qusetions)
that would make this community useful, for developers.
usual questions, like Q&A is okay, but just want separate section, where real professional people look. (just look, at Q&A, full of regular people who have no clue, and not even read guide, all those questions can be solved with existing guides on XDA, and even if can't, then phone is hard bricked, or question is just trash, and that me, and i believe many others, programmers, professionals, drive back from it, we need quality questions where programmers can look for to help fellow programmer.
and, with this, upwote and downwote, it would be a good idea, as, in those special programming threads, programmers would be able to see most useful answer.
with all people bashing here, this became some low quality, chat forum, i wish we can make it more quality focused, but still noob frinendly, so it have sections for noobs (existing Q&A), and expert section
And what @Jaxidian complained, this would be solution, as sometimes experienced people don't have patience for noob question (they just say "why you don't search first before posting"), those people who answer that way, just wish they could answer and help someone more experienced struggling and not answer same questions from noobs that don't research before posting. (if someone is noob, he becomes even bigger noob if he ask for something that has been asked milion times on same platform)
my 50 cents

A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...

blackhawk said:
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or limit the forums new members can post to just Q and A subforums.

My observation is that in the Q&A forum regularly - almost daily - the same problem (e.g. data recovery for bricked device, rooting device, bypass FRP lock) is presented by different users and asked for a solution proposal: in my eyes a nonsense.
My recommendation: The Q&A forum should have sub-forums for this.
Also, I do not understand why 2 Q&A forums exist, namely Q&A and Q&A->H&T. Users do not distinguish between them.

Please bring back the XDA Labs app.

blackhawk said:
A 2-7 day waiting period to post for new members would discourage one thread wonders looking for a quick fix here rather than simple doing a Google search(s).
Help dissuade spammers as well.
Those with a sincere interest would suck up the wait...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that's an interesting idea, but nothing will make a new user more upset than a waiting period. In 2021, people expect instant access and quick gratification. If we were the only phones community, I would agree with you, but if I was a newb and registered then had a waiting period, I'd say "screw it, my problem is important. i'm going to reddit/AndroidCentral/somewhere else"
Sarticle said:
Please bring back the XDA Labs app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not going to happen unless a team of developers steps forth to fully take over its development.