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God Damn Vodafone!!!!!!! why!!

So much for everyone recieving the full froyo update!
as usuall vodafone balls everything up for all us users. It makes no sense unless they are removing features as the explanation around emergency calling doesnt fit, in that case users using a nexus one roaming on vodafone wouldnt be able to emergency call.
Nexus One customers that bought the phone from Vodafone will be getting Froyo, albeit a little delayed. We have to make a few changes to Froyo to optimize it for the Vodafone network (small stuff around Emergency calling, etc.), so it will take at least another couple of weeks (changes + testing).
Apologize for the extra delay, but please understand that this is a large scale deployment with lots of intricacies and we have to be prudent. I can assure you that we are striving hard to get Froyo out to all Nexus One customers ASAP.
Thanks for your continued support!
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http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=488da0ef21660d13&hl=en&start=3280
now how do i unlock my bootloader.

What if I bought my N1 directly from Google

I wish they would be more verbose about the actual issue.. surely anyone who has bought their phone direct from Google should be having certain issues with Froyo in Europe then?

So is that all EPF21B handsets? I didn't get mine from Vodafone, I bought it from Phones 4 U and put it on a voda iPhone tarriff. AFAIK I could've put it on any network.
I guess it's registered on the vodafone network now...

b0dge said:
So is that all EPF21B handsets? I didn't get mine from Vodafone, I bought it from Phones 4 U and put it on a voda iPhone tarriff. AFAIK I could've put it on any network.
I guess it's registered on the vodafone network now...
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all EPF21B handsets are assigned to vodafone, some phone shops might sell you it as another network, but they were meant to be vodafone only.
So yes unfortunatly all EPF21B phones have to wait for whatever crap google are doing to it, and given the amount of time they are saying it is gonna take i doubt it will be just minor changes like they say.

b0dge said:
So is that all EPF21B handsets? I didn't get mine from Vodafone, I bought it from Phones 4 U and put it on a voda iPhone tarriff. AFAIK I could've put it on any network.
I guess it's registered on the vodafone network now...
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You did get it from vodafoe albeit through a phone shop.
Definitely couldn't have put it on any network. Phone are supplied from the networks not phone shops.

Think they need to 'optimize' out the tethering ability?

I stand corrected (said the man in the orthopedic shoes). Cheers for the info guys.
So all this talk of all the updates for the N1 coming direct from Google with no interruptions from the networks was all pie in the sky?

asim_aziz said:
You did get it from vodafoe albeit through a phone shop.
Definitely couldn't have put it on any network. Phone are supplied from the networks not phone shops.
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You can put it on any network you like, I got mine from phone4u although it was a Vodafone phone there is no branding, sim or documentation and am running an 02 sim in it.

braingravyuk said:
You can put it on any network you like, I got mine from phone4u although it was a Vodafone phone there is no branding, sim or documentation and am running an 02 sim in it.
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Being an unlocked phone you can use any networks sim in it but it would still have vodafone customized firmware. Doesn't make it O2s phone by using O2 sim in it.

You said it couldn't be used on any network, I was saying this is incorrect. Am not saying sticking in a sim from another operator magically changes the firmware.

braingravyuk said:
You said it couldn't be used on any network, I was saying this is incorrect. Am not saying sticking in a sim from another operator magically changes the firmware.
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Have you tried flashing the new FroYo at all or are you worried about voiding warranty?
I thought there was a version which would update all firmware versions?
I wanted to stick it on one of the guys at works' phones but he didn't want to. He's on a VF contract with the phone coming from VF.
I bought mine sim free from Google and stuck my contract sim in and rooted within a month. Never looked back to be honest.
You should consider it and if something goes wrong, just go straight to HTC or claim on your own insurance (home or phone specific).
I wouldn't hang around waiting for VF to sort it out, they'll probably bastardise the firmware anyway and lock out stuff.

Damn, some of you people are dense.
Vodafone is not requiring google to do anything.
Google is opting to modify their update for the vodafone range in order to IMPROVE their(vodafone gang's) experience.

JCopernicus said:
Damn, some of you people are dense.
Vodafone is not requiring google to do anything.
Google is opting to modify their update for the vodafone range in order to IMPROVE their(vodafone gang's) experience.
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lol yeah ok, believe that if you wish. all the evidence however proves otherwise, have you read the gaurdian uk article from vodafone?

mattinglis said:
lol yeah ok, believe that if you wish. all the evidence however proves otherwise, have you read the gaurdian uk article from vodafone?
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A link or some specificity to what article you're talking about may answer that question.

JCopernicus said:
Damn, some of you people are dense.
Vodafone is not requiring google to do anything.
Google is opting to modify their update for the vodafone range in order to IMPROVE their(vodafone gang's) experience.
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Surely any worth while improvements would be in Froyo to benefit everyone, I can't see Vodafone running something that is unique to their network otherwise every single phone they release would need specific software to them.
Also isn't there other networks in Europe supplying the N1 that isn't Vodafone but use the same build? I do fear this is more about removal of tethering, as there is people on here running Froyo just fine on Vodafone's network.

Maybe there's hope for tether after all
Hey guys, I have an AT&T nexus1 now running frf85b on Vodafone in East Africa. Tether doesn't work already because of a DNS problem. I am pretty sure it's not a phone or computer problem, but some discrepancy between Voda and Froyo. Perhaps Voda is getting that worked out in their network before releasing frf85b. Or a different froyo build is on it's way, but either way, this seems like there may be hope for tether. If they didn't want you to have tether they could give it to you broke now.

Thats bull****...
Not everyone in europe uses Vodafone. I bought it from a retailer.
Since VF is the only provider with the n1 they also got it from VF.
Most people arent even using VF as their provider. Why should we need VF-specific ROM versions?

Vodafone forums are reporting another 2-3 weeks, which is why I unlocked the bootloader & am now running FRF85B.
Ha! up yours Vodamoan, I'm using an O2 sim anyways! LOL!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/jun/29/android-froyo-google-update
there you go.
This update is not going to include any unique features for vodafone, neither is it going to include any improvements over the froyo which is already released. think about it why would google give a better version to voda rather than its own customers. neither is this update because of emergency calling like google claims, as to pass fcc rules the phone must be capable of creating emergency calls anywhere where there is reception, wether that be a us phone in the uk or vice versa it makes no difference.
this could be google making some changes to optomize it for vodafones network, but then the question is why dont other networks need optomized versions?
voda has made it clear in many sources it isnt happy about tethering on android or other phones as they fear it will cripple their network like att in america. so is it just coincidence that they have asked google to make changes? highly unlikely, more likely is google is either removing or limiting tethering on the vodafone version.
Quite how this will stop people tethering when they can just switch firmwares is beyond me.
Just a shame vodafone and to some way google (by agreeing to change it for vodafone) are going completely against the openness of android. Infact google themselves stated a few weeks back that they werent happy about the fragmentation of android, yet they themselves are fragmenting it for the benefit of a network.

Get a new Galaxy Tab for AU $299

Was looking around on Tab prices yesterday.
Ebay...350.00 upwards etc....
Telstra.com are offering them outright for AU 299.00 but are locked to telstra network.
Rang Harvey Norman this morning, and they matched the 299.00 price tag.
The Galaxy Tabs they sell are also SIM Un-Locked.
So, im now the proud owner of a Galaxy Tab.
Just thought id post this info for any other fellow aussies who are looking for a new tab, at a great price.
Harvey norman will continue to match the 299.00 price.

LOL the Telstra TABS ($299) are NOT locked to Telstra. Not sure where you got that info from.

ipit said:
LOL the Telstra TABS ($299) are NOT locked to Telstra. Not sure where you got that info from.
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From the Sales representative i was speaking to on the phone yesterday.
Wouldnt surprise me though if the info is wrong, havent spoken to too many telstra reps that really know their job anyway.

I have a telstra tab and its definetly not locked, ive used a optus sim in it, but damn $299 i may go pick one up today

Well, im glad they arent locked. Was just passing on the info i knew, so that it may benefit others.
I actually went in to the telstra shop this morning with intention to get one, but they had no stock, and werent sure when new stock would arrive
When Harvey Norman told me they would match the price, i was stoked.
Considering they have the Tab on display for $589.00, it does pay to ask the question.
I saved good money, and got a great buy i think.

Just out of interest, are the Harvey Norman Tabs the Telstra branded P1000T ones? or the standard P1000?

On the box, mine says GT-P1000

ok thanks so that's the non-telstra one. it's suitable for those who never plan on using Telstra Next G.
Personally I'd rather go with the Telstra model for 2 reasons.
a) Option of using Next G if I wanted to
b) Vodafone will be 'soon' rolling out their network on the same 850 band.
Downside - If you're currently with anyone but Telstra you won't get a connection is rural areas.

ok thanks so that's the non-telstra one. it's suitable for those who never plan on using Telstra Next G.
Personally I'd rather go with the Telstra model for 2 reasons.
a) Option of using Next G if I wanted to
b) Vodafone will be 'soon' rolling out their network on the same 850 band.
Downside - If you're currently with anyone but Telstra you won't get a connection is rural areas.
Moral of the story if you don't plan on using your pad in the 'bush' it's best to buy the Telstra model.

it is definitely $299 and unlocked. This deal start from last week on Telstra ONLINE OFFER ONLY and Telstra start the deal instore from this week.
It is very fast sell as the prices drop from $408 and for anyone who missed this deal (so many out of stock) you can grab one in JB HIFI, they also sell it for $299, not sure with Hardly Normal, opss i mean harvey norman

I got mine from harvey....and i have no problem plopping a optus sim in and getting next G lol.
Yes telstra probably are the best to be with....but boy...dont ya pay for that.
I used to use telstra...but got sick and tired of paying the most and getting nothing in return.....optus looks after me, and i dont have any problems connecting anywhere.

Cool thanks for the info guys. I picked up a telstra branded tab today also and I have noticed that the wifi tethering is not enabled nor can i directly setup my hotmail account.
I have a HTC HD2 telstra version that I have played with many versions of android, unfortunatly the usb charging connection on that device is broken and I think it may be a while befor I'll be able to track down the part I need to repair it.
Anyway been playing with the new toy (samsung galaxy tab) since this morning and it's a rather cool device.
I'm with Telstra as I often find myself in real crap hole places for work where the only reception if any is telstra.
Once i figure out how to root this device and flash a standard no brand rom I will as Telstra have loaded up this device with all there own bloatware that is mostly useless.

I just used z4root 1.3 to root mine mate.
Also, i installed clockworkmod and chose the [email protected] recovery rom if thats any help.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App

H3G UK 4G update when running custom ROMS

Hey,
So I'm on H3G in the UK and installed a custom ROM a few months back. When H3G rolled out 4G in London and Manchester (I'm in manc) I wasn't getting LTE even in the town centre.
Now on the H3G website it says that they will roll out a software update to switch the phone "on" for 4G, I'm guessing I don't have that as I'm running a custom ROM. Is there any way to get this update, or update any part of the phone such as the radio so it will receive 4G on H3G in the UK?
HTC One
H3G UK
ReVolt ROM 4.2.2
3.4.10 ReVolt Kernal
Baseband: 4A.17.3250.14_10.39.1150.04L

You could try dialling *#*#4636#*#* trick and selecting GSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto

It was already on GSM/LTE auto, and I'm guessing that the ROM would be set to this?
It also just seems to switch back to GSM/LTE auto even is I change it to the one with CDMA.
Either way I don't think its going to allow me to connect like that :/

Nothing on this
I may have to set aside some time for going completely back to stock I guess.

Mega Maniac said:
Nothing on this
I may have to set aside some time for going completely back to stock I guess.
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Maybe just wait till they push it and have someone dump it and see what it is. Might be as simple as a new APN....

cr1960 said:
Maybe just wait till they push it and have someone dump it and see what it is. Might be as simple as a new APN....
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That's what I was hoping for out of this topic, they started pushing 4G to London, Manchester, B'ham and Reading in mid December, so its in the wilds, but there is nothing online that I can find relating to it.
Is there any way to "capture" an OTA update as it comes in?
And has anyone reading this got the update already?
I guess being in UK, and on H3G, and the limited roll out really narrows the number of members here who might have it :/
Edit: I have just read that the December roll out was only to 3000 select customers (they REALLY like the number 3), basically a beta (for people who dont just hang up on the marketing team), and the major roll out happens in Feb. Perhaps I was being a bit eager :'(

Mega Maniac said:
That's what I was hoping for out of this topic, they started pushing 4G to London, Manchester, B'ham and Reading in mid December, so its in the wilds, but there is nothing online that I can find relating to it.
Is there any way to "capture" an OTA update as it comes in?
And has anyone reading this got the update already?
I guess being in UK, and on H3G, and the limited roll out really narrows the number of members here who might have it :/
Edit: I have just read that the December roll out was only to 3000 select customers (they REALLY like the number 3), basically a beta (for people who dont just hang up on the marketing team), and the major roll out happens in Feb. Perhaps I was being a bit eager :'(
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who can blame you.
you're not alone either: http://blog.three.co.uk/2013/12/04/4g-is-rolling-out-on-three/

cr1960 said:
who can blame you.
you're not alone either: http://blog.three.co.uk/2013/12/04/4g-is-rolling-out-on-three/
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Haha, it is a slow rollout, but my speeds on DC-HSDPA are already faster than my home internet (which itself is a bit ****, as I'm in flats) at around 5Mbps. I have been on all the networks and in my experience it blows all of the rest out of the water, when 4G finally gets here, for free, completely unlimited and (on The One Plan) including tethering I cant see there being any other choice for a heavy internet user.

LTE got switched on for me today, no updates of any kind needed.
So for those out there on H3G running custom ROMs, its just a waiting game, as soon as H3G flip the switch in your area it will start working. Speedy too

N950N Olympics Edition on UK carriers

Is anyone using this phone on a UK carrier without any mods at all?
This is the KT branded/unlocked version gifted to athletes.
I don’t care about WiFi calling, just wondering if it will work well on any UK carrier without my having to do anything to it.
Thanks....

rljuss said:
Is anyone using this phone on a UK carrier without any mods at all?
This is the KT branded/unlocked version gifted to athletes.
I don’t care about WiFi calling, just wondering if it will work well on any UK carrier without my having to do anything to it.
Thanks....
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It should be fine if the basebands match.
Find the baseband of the network you want to use, (so for 3g I need baseband 2100 and for 4g I need 900)
In the link below you can then compare it to your model (I will assume its the same as the U version despite the KT)
If the baseband matches for 3g you will only get 3g or visa versa. Hopefully they will match for both 3 and 4g.
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/

stonedpsycho said:
It should be fine if the basebands match.
Find the baseband of the network you want to use, (so for 3g I need baseband 2100 and for 4g I need 900)
In the link below you can then compare it to your model (I will assume its the same as the U version despite the KT)
If the baseband matches for 3g you will only get 3g or visa versa. Hopefully they will match for both 3 and 4g.
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Thanks for your reply.
On paper, this phone has all the necessary bands to work on TMobile USA but a test at one of their stores with an active SIM didn't have good results. Although the phone displayed LTE, outgoing calls took between 40 and 60 seconds to initiate dialing out, and SMS texts would not go out at all (or if they went out, they didn't arrive at destination phone).
I travel frequently to the UK so I was just hoping that this phone would work out of the box with a UK SIM with no need for mods....

How did you get this phone? I want one so bad.. the colors are so cool

justinxfan said:
How did you get this phone? I want one so bad.. the colors are so cool
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I acquired it directly from an athlete.
I hope to make it work. If not, It may soon be available... (I hope it’s not against the rules to say that).

Seeing as the N950N is GSM device, you should have no issues using it with any UK cell provider.

iceepyon said:
Seeing as the N950N is GSM device, you should have no issues using it with any UK cell provider.
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Thanks, that would be my hope, though it didn’t bear out for TMobile USA, which is also a GSM network.

rljuss said:
Thanks, that would be my hope, though it didn’t bear out for TMobile USA, which is also a GSM network.
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You would need to contact T-Mobile or visit their retail branch and have them add your devices IMEI# on their network. For some strange reason some networks require that...

It should work in the UK no problem. Go-to thr Samsung website and it shows all the bands for your specific model (950N) and cross reference it with the ones used in the UK. I think you'll find it's all there. No need to over think it.
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Limeybastard said:
It should work in the UK no problem. Go-to thr Samsung website and it shows all the bands for your specific model (950N) and cross reference it with the ones used in the UK. I think you'll find it's all there. No need to over think it.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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Thanks. For some reason, although Tmobile USA has all of the required bands, this phone will not work properly on their network without mods.
The purpose of this thread was to hopefully get confirmation from anyone who is actually using an N950N on a UK network without mods.

rljuss said:
I acquired it directly from an athlete.
I hope to make it work. If not, It may soon be available... (I hope it’s not against the rules to say that).
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rljuss said:
Thanks. For some reason, although Tmobile USA has all of the required bands, this phone will not work properly on their network without mods.
The purpose of this thread was to hopefully get confirmation from anyone who is actually using an N950N on a UK network without mods.
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I am using the same Olympic Edition phone in the UK no problem at all. I had to reset my network in order to get LTE working though. I was actually thinking of selling mine, but I decided to keep it and I absolutely love it and sold my iPhone instead!

Frozenrosen said:
I am using the same Olympic Edition phone in the UK no problem at all. I had to reset my network in order to get LTE working though. I was actually thinking of selling mine, but I decided to keep it and I absolutely love it and sold my iPhone instead!
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Thank you, that is good to know. Which UK carrier are you using? I have a Vodafone UK sim, but if it doesn't work on that, I'll get a different one.
And what do you mean exactly by "I had to reset my network".... ?

rljuss said:
Thank you, that is good to know. Which UK carrier are you using? I have a Vodafone UK sim, but if it doesn't work on that, I'll get a different one.
And what do you mean exactly by "I had to reset my network".... ?
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I'm on EE but I haven't tried any other carrier, but I'm sure it would work the same.
What I meant by reset my network, go to settings - general management - reset - reset network settings and then I just reset my network that way and I got the LTE working that way. Let me know if this works for you on Vodafone

Frozenrosen said:
I'm on EE but I haven't tried any other carrier, but I'm sure it would work the same.
What I meant by reset my network, go to settings - general management - reset - reset network settings and then I just reset my network that way and I got the LTE working that way. Let me know if this works for you on Vodafone
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Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.

rljuss said:
Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.
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Ok great! Good luck, you will love the phone, I know I do! I just saw a teammate last night who was in Korea also, and he loves the phone as well! Let me know if that works!

rljuss said:
Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.
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Is it working ok for you? Also I have a question, what software version are you on? I'm on the Oreo update but still on the April patch? I am trying to see if anyone has a newer software patch that they have got. I find it strange that I haven't had any updates in 3 months.

Hi. I arrived in London on Sat 7/21... phone would only receive 2G (phone displayed E) and occasionally 3G. I stopped by Vodafone shop and they confirmed all settings were correct. I went across the street to EE and tried one of their sims, strong 3G but nothing better. As I was going to Cardiff for a few days, I used the Microsoft 950XL that I have which receives 4G and better (often displays 4G+).
Not sure what the next step is...
Regarding updates, the last one I got installed Oreo 8.0.0 and Samsung Experience 9.0 on May 24, 2018. Last security patch date is April 1, 2018.

rljuss said:
Hi. I arrived in London on Sat 7/21... phone would only receive 2G (phone displayed E) and occasionally 3G. I stopped by Vodafone shop and they confirmed all settings were correct. I went across the street to EE and tried one of their sims, strong 3G but nothing better. As I was going to Cardiff for a few days, I used the Microsoft 950XL that I have which receives 4G and better (often displays 4G+).
Not sure what the next step is...
Regarding updates, the last one I got installed Oreo 8.0.0 and Samsung Experience 9.0 on May 24, 2018. Last security patch date is April 1, 2018.
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Have you tried the reset network with the Sim in now you are in the UK? That sounds like what happened to me, would only get 3g until I would reset the network with the Sim in. I once tried to put in another Sim and when I put my EE Sim back in I had to reset the network again. I'm even in Germany now for the past week and I get LTE here as well.
Ok thanks, we are on the same security patch. But I would think that we would get updates that are newer than that. On Reddit people are already talking about getting thier July updates, while we are still on the April update.

How can I update my S20 FE 5G on mobile data only?

Hi everyone,
Finally got my brand new S20 FE 5G (SM-G781U single-SIM is what it says on the box) from Rakuten (a 6/128 for a little under 350 euros, for those who are interested), and it came with Android 11. It's now in the process of installing all the security updates, but I can't for the life of me find out how to update/upgrade on mobile data only.
Sure, I can do it over WiFi, but sometimes it's more convenient to do it over mobile data, especially considering that I'm not always home and that I have a generous data allowance on this SIM.
I've looked everywhere, I think, but I couldn't find how to do that. Help please?

mobile networks timeout more frequently and an update can be massive. I wouldn't even consider it but if I did the chance of tiny bits worth of data corruption would be higher.
the store you mentioned sounds kinda Scandinavian and you paid in euros but the model number you've given is American.
you're the 2nd person I've seen say that they bought a U model. you should confirm what you have.

3mel said:
mobile networks timeout more frequently and an update can be massive. I wouldn't even consider it but if I did the chance of tiny bits worth of data corruption would be higher.
the store you mentioned sounds kinda Scandinavian and you paid in euros but the model number you've given is American.
you're the 2nd person I've seen say that they bought a U model. you should confirm what you have.
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Hi, and thanks for taking the time!
It is indeed a US model I bought online from Rakuten. It works flawlessly on all the French bands (I live in France) and I'm very happy with it so far.
Before that, I've had three Xiaomis (well, technically, two of them were in fact Pocos) and I always used mobile data to update or upgrade them; never failed me, so I would really like to be able to do that with my Sammy.
As for Rakuten, it's Japanese, and they've been an online vendor for like forever.

UglyStuff said:
Hi, and thanks for taking the time!
It is indeed a US model I bought online from Rakuten. It works flawlessly on all the French bands (I live in France) and I'm very happy with it so far.
Before that, I've had three Xiaomis (well, technically, two of them were in fact Pocos) and I always used mobile data to update or upgrade them; never failed me, so I would really like to be able to do that with my Sammy.
As for Rakuten, it's Japanese, and they've been an online vendor for like forever.
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the chances of being able to update a phone intended for use in America are low and that's via wifi. once you add a non American sim card and cellular data into the equation I put your chances squarely at zero.
you can update it manually, downloading and then flashing the firmware yourself via Odin. it's extremely easy once you know what you're doing and you can even keep all your user data intact if you wish.
in settings > about phone > software info... near the bottom you'll find 'service provider software version' and you should see a combo of 3 letters that gets repeated 3 times.
I'm assuming it should say XAA 3 times there but whatever it does say is your CSC code. memorise that code as you'll need it to download the correct firmware. there are various sites and PC apps to download firmware from. if wanna know more I'll try to point you in the right direction.