I have been looking at the camera, he actually and ordinary card machine than what outstanding? Easy to use? The best a few proofs, give me have a look.
Awsome camera go into the main general thread there is a best pics thread with some good pics . Ive just updated it so it should be near the top
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What I generally tell people who ask me that very same question, is this, admittedly there are cheaper cameras that produce a better image quality, that's not to say the photos are rubbish, I just know that you could spend considerably less for the same or equal image quality.
You're paying a premium for what it is, as there is only one other device like it on the market right now (more are on the way) if you buy this camera, you're definitely buying it as a WANT, not a NEED and probably succumbing to the need to have the latest and greatest tech.
The functionality you get over a standard point-and-shoot (PaS) is definitely the key thing here, I've not plugged this thing in to a computer to transfer images one, it's all done over the air.
I will go out, take whatever photos and by the time I've got home, they are already waiting for me to view, whether that's on Google+ via it's auto upload feature, or the full size images that have been synced through to my machines via dropbox. The ability to instantly share those photos using any method available to the Android platform is another massive bonus, as well as all the editing apps available on the platform too.
The lens on the camera gives ample range and in some cases greater than other, normal, cameras out there and the pre defined "Smart Settings" work very well, as well as the manual settings which for me, is a very welcomed feature.
The remote viewfinder and the ability to control the camera from your phone is an excellent feature, doing group shots, with yourself in the group is now an easy thing to do, without the hassle of setting a timer and running back etc...
One problem I have found with the camera, which will get better with upcoming software updates I believe, is the occasional lag, not just in the camera app but the while device and it's no where near as quick to load from a cold boot.
Overall it's a great device, the build quality is good and all the features you get from having the Android OS bolted on is great. But only you can decide whether you think it's worth shelling out the money they're asking for it and if not now, maybe when the price drops you might. And if your sole requirement is to have the best image quality possible and nothing else, then there are other cameras in the same price bracket that yield better results.
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Hi guys
the camera quality of this phone is terrible, the image are always affected by blurry effects and low details and much noise.
Is it normal ?
There's a FIX for this ?
SW or HW issue ?
Thank U
No fix for now...
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When I had my Lg p990 I was also trying to investigate the reason of the bad camera quality.
Then I read somewhere: Better have a goo quality camera with lesser MP then have a ****ty quality camera with higher MP.
My Nokia N95 8GB with 5 MP took better photos vs LG o2x P990 8 MP.
Another deal-breaker, I was actually thinking in buying p880.....
Thank you for saving me
We're relying on LG to fix this one.
By the sound of things it's a good camera that has been badly configured.
Ksekhar has done all that he can here, but the frustration got the better of him and he's abandoned the device.
Can't say I blame him.
Can't a third party camera app fix this?
I think that only changing lenses
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Guys, what do you expect? There is a reason why this phone is cheaper than the competition...
chalid said:
Guys, what do you expect? There is a reason why this phone is cheaper than the competition...
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..yes. It doesn't have overly advertised and expensive bloatware on it that drains the battery in a day no matter what you do. Never mind force you to use some proprietary solution to transfer any files onto it, while making it impossible to use external storage media
The camera default settings just aren't calibrated very well. If you turn down the exposure time so the "correction" algorithms don't try to mesh two completely different pictures, it's no worse or better than any other camera with a plastic lens.
Seriously, though -- how much do you guys think the camera modules in these phones actually cost? :laugh:
It's not just bad calibration - its bad hardware. I attached sample shots of my old galaxy s2 and the lg optimus 4x hd.
As you can see, the galaxy s2 image is MUCH sharper and clearer - especially at the edges and the color reproduction is far better as well. That's not just bad calibration ...
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But pretty sure the iso speed is the same on all those pictures.. If you try with the other presets, some custom fiddling, or just use the snap-function while filming -- you won't get the same blur in the picture.
So.. conclusion: the profiles probably would have worked perfectly fine on a super-steady hand, a tripod, and perhaps also in a world where light travels at the speed of sound or so.
(btw, not making the point that the camera is awesome. Just saying that you're not going to take very good pictures with a camera like this no matter what. It is, however, possible to take reasonably good mobile phone pictures - on this camera, just like any other mobile phone camera.)
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But pretty sure the iso speed is the same on all those pictures.. If you try with the other presets, some custom fiddling, or just use the snap-function while filming -- you won't get the same blur in the picture.
So.. conclusion: the profiles probably would have worked perfectly fine on a super-steady hand, a tripod, and perhaps also in a world where light travels at the speed of sound or so.
(btw, not making the point that the camera is awesome. Just saying that you're not going to take very good pictures with a camera like this no matter what. It is, however, possible to take reasonably good mobile phone pictures - on this camera, just like any other mobile phone camera.)
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@UIQrules: Actually I leant onto something when I took those picture - and I took 20 or so on the LG and chose the best. There is no way you can get the same results like with the Galaxy S2. There is better hardware in use with the Samsung phone. It has nothing to do with software configuration.
Acutally I think the Galaxy S2 pictures are pretty awesome - even by a compact camera point of view. The LG is fine for me, because I don't need the camera very often, but I can see why someone would change for another phone, because of all those high-end smartphones out there, the Optimus 4X probably takes the worst pictures.
*nods* agree with that.
But yeah, noticed the same thing. As steady as possible, and still getting the weird blur, even at close range and perfect lighting. Then I took a few "speed" shots, at the same resolution, and it went away. So I don't know what it is, but I suspect it has something to do with the way the picture buffers are used. Amazing that it would go through qa, of course, no doubt about that. It is, like you say, something you notice right away.
What is everyone's thought of the camera? I've read a couple of articles and they just don't rate the camera well. Thanks for anyone who can give an honest response to whether the camera is just all hype.
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In my opinion I don't think it's something to get exciting over. Yes it does perform well in lowlight, but lacks detail in well lit images compared to most other phones. I'd honestly prefer just a regular 13 megapixel camera, but I really don't take many photos so it doesn't bother me much. If I want great images ill take a dedicated camera with me. Besides the lack of detail, I think all the features that it comes with and Zoe is really cool. Once I get my hands on the device ill know if the extra features it carries will be enough for me to forget about the lack of detail in images in well lit images.
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Having used it for a few seconds I think the sensor is great, definitely a step in the right direction. The problem is HTC's overly aggressive noise reduction algorithm that smooths over all of the details inherent in the picture. If you could turn it down so there was some more noise/grain I think most people would say that this is the best camera phone sensor on the market besides maybe the Nokia PureView (which I have not seen in person). The dynamic range is seriously point and shoot good and the low light images speak for themselves.
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I've currently got a rooted HTC sensation which I'm due to upgrade. My choice is between the HTC one and the galaxy s4, but my choice seems to come down to the camera quality. Is the one camera really as bad as the reviews suggest?
I havent got any examples that I can post but the quality seems much crisper that my previous device (Sensation)
Low light shots seem ok and auto-focus seems to work much quicker. Zoe is also a nice feature!
link to the review?
Why create a new thread? There's at least 3 threads talking about the camera....... :banghead:
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Check out THIS thread and make your own mind up, i personally don't have any problem with the camera quality.
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I've currently got a rooted HTC sensation which I'm due to upgrade. My choice is between the HTC one and the galaxy s4, but my choice seems to come down to the camera quality. Is the one camera really as bad as the reviews suggest?
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Are you just being lazy or just being a troll by opening a thread with a negative impact title? Hard to tell...Anyway, if really interested you could have looked at least at one photo thread which contains dozens of camera reviews.
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Are you just being lazy or just being a troll by opening a thread with a negative impact title? Hard to tell...Anyway, if really interested you could have looked at least at one photo thread which contains dozens of camera reviews.
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No need to be like that, that thread has loads of pictures from all the one series. Not specifically the new one. And the various reviews I've read seem to conflict, some saying it's okay, others stating it's useless. Hence me asking for anyone's first hand experience with the phone now it's been released.
Start at the last page and work backwards, plenty of user pictures from the One.
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No need to be like that, that thread has loads of pictures from all the one series. Not specifically the new one. And the various reviews I've read seem to conflict, some saying it's okay, others stating it's useless. Hence me asking for anyone's first hand experience with the phone now it's been released.
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Well, for serious photography I hang a DSLR around my neck and carry a couple of extra lenses in the backpack. For snapping a quick shot whilst I'm just pottering about or hanging with the guys the camera is far more than adequate.
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No need to be like that, that thread has loads of pictures from all the one series. Not specifically the new one. And the various reviews I've read seem to conflict, some saying it's okay, others stating it's useless. Hence me asking for anyone's first hand experience with the phone now it's been released.
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Sorry man but today we have already seen a topic closed for plane trolling and in this context your thread title seemed a little out of line especially since there are already lots of user pictures and opinions available, i needn't speak about dozens of reviews. Didn't mean to be rude but next time better check first what info is available and maybe select a more appropriate title.
In my opinion i was expecting the photos taken to be a bit better but i am also quite optimistic about the fact that software updates might turn it into an excellent smartphone camera.
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Sorry man but today we have already seen a topic closed for plane trolling and in this context your thread title seemed a little out of line especially since there are already lots of user pictures and opinions available, i needn't speak about dozens of reviews. Didn't mean to be rude but next time better check first what info is available and maybe select a more appropriate title.
In my opinion i was expecting the photos taken to be a bit better but i am also quite optimistic about the fact that software updates might turn it into an excellent smartphone camera.
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It's okay, not trying to bash the phone, just trying to find out which phone to upgrade to!
I saw that thread you're talking about and even commented a little, but unfortunately there were a couple of Samsung fanboys who turned it into a company vs company thread instead of just having unbiased comparisons between phones.
I don't have a decent camera, nor do I have the option to carry one around all the time since I'm normally dragging a couple of infants around with me, I'm not really an avid photographer either. I just want it to be at least as good as the one on my sensation since I do use it fairly regularly, but can't make my mind up on handset! I think I may have to just go into a phone shop and compare for myself.
Like I keep saying
The HTC One camera is an extremely well equipped camera, OIS, super fast shutter, low light ability, f2.0, wide angle lens, powerful macro ability, best HDR on phones, all combined gives a very powerful camera
However as usual with HTC it will still require manual efforts from ur side those camera settings are there to be used
Compared to your sensation its light years ahead of it, compared to the One X you loose something and gain something in return
Things to keep in mind always reduce sharpness in HTC cameras and for the One in specific auto enhance or contrast increase might be needed as well due to the extra light in its day light photos
But it's not match to the 13MP detail from the sgs4 camera purely in terms of resolution
I came from DHD, wife still has Sensation. We're in full agreement that the One takes much better pictures.
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I am in similar position. For me which phone I choose next will be down to camera. One thing I missed after iphone was the way you cam trim videos before sending to get correct file size. As far as I am aware only htc on android can do this - forward to 1145 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nQyOpixiU&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
I will no doubt get the one but camera is a worry as htc are not really promoting it in any adverts I have seen so far in uk. More blink and boom ?? Waiting for 64gb too but if we ever get it who knows ???
The camera thread is great but I am now info overloaded so really have to go test one in more depth.
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Do you use digital zoom or lot, or blow up pics after you make them? IMO, this is the weak point of the camera. It's lens is 28mm (35mm film equivalent) and you don't have the latitude to zoom that you would with more MP. Personally, I am more a telephoto guy than wide angle so it bugs me, but everyone is different.
(I decided to punt and keep my S3 for now. Camera plus questions on headphone audio. Mixed feeling though, as I really like the low light attributes and boomsound speakers.)
Just wait until release and judge for yourself and decide if it's really an amazing camera.
I have never, in too many years to mention, used a digital zoom. Never saw the point in stretching one sensor pixel to fill 4, 9, 16 or more final image pixels.
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Yeah, digital zoom is terrible regardless of the camera used. I do however sometimes zoom in on my photos, which I assume won't be much good with the one.
Afraid that zooming after the event won't get you anywhere with the One. Granted, although my phone's have progressed from being a phone/txt device that could play snake when I was bored all the way to a miniature computer that can make calls as well I've never viewed them as a camera replacement. Hell, you can get a little 8Mp snapper that's smaller then current headline phones for a fraction of the cost AND they've got optical zoom with a lense that retreats into the body of the camera when you put it back in your pocket.
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Hi everyone,
It's one week I own the z3c and I was asking to myself what camera app would better performs with the 20,7mpx sensor.
I quite like the default one but I also like to have the full controll of the settings like when I'm using my dslr.
I know tha the manual mode is pretty cool but I'm sure as well that outiside there in the google play store there is a good app wich perform better
Any of you tried these apps?
PS: sorry for mistakes, I'm still learnig english.
I am also looking for a similar app, with at-least white-balance and exposure settings. Please let me know if anyone found a better application
I like the idea of being able to adjust the white balance and exposure by sliding your finger up and down or sideways on the screen without having to go into the menu. If there's a camera app that does that, I'd be very interested.
I am getting great results frm Camera JB+. It takes the interface to a simplified AOSP-vanilla look. No more overcomplicated interface. Quality-wise I get overall better performing pictures as the manual mode in 20MP. Also there is support for 20MP HDR, even with flash.
I'm very well suprised by this simple app. Another plus, is that it will come with a AOSP-gallery, wich I do very much prefer to the stock gallery.
If you deactivate the stock camera, this app will pop-up when you press the dedicated camera-button.
Only downside I have experienced, is no 4K video (but who actually needs this) and lacking a resolution option 16:9 15MP.
SnapHDR is the best for me when using custom roms
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Currently using snapcamera hdr, Nothing to complain!
Interestint topic.
I bought Camera ZOOM some time ago, though not used it still on the Z3C. The default app certainly lacks manual setting sof exposer/time. Also, where is the ISO setting?? Am I stupid or why can I not seem to find it?? HDR options are also not easily accesible, nor is white balance. So interesting to hear what people use sucessfully, trying the ones mentioned so far now.
I've got some impressive results with Pro Capture and Pro HDR apps. Both are paid, I got them in a discount or so, some time ago.
Especially the Pro Capture has some fine tweaks, that increase the usability overall. There is a demo(free) version AFAIK for anyone who wants to try it.
Bought ProHDR because I loved it on iPhone.
I find the google camera app really good, you can select 15mp, 20mp and also provides manual exposure control on the screen. The panorama and photosphere are great.
On my HTC one X i used Camera FV-5. Tbh, it was in my experience the best camera app around, though their maybe others too. It doesn't do none of the filtering rubbish, but purely easy to access manual controls. You can even save as lossless png's and then do your own processing in your chosen software.
Bracketed frames, HDR/timelapse, long exposure and lots more.
Due to some other technical reasons, I haven't tried it on my z3c, but I suggest you really look into it. Unfortunately they don't do a demo.
I'm a wedding photographer so this was ideal for me. I may investigate for something better (if there is), but I know I will be using this again, soon.
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On my HTC one X i used Camera FV-5. Tbh, it was in my experience the best camera app around, though their maybe others too. It doesn't do none of the filtering rubbish, but purely easy to access manual controls. You can even save as lossless png's and then do your own processing in your chosen software.
Bracketed frames, HDR/timelapse, long exposure and lots more.
Due to some other technical reasons, I haven't tried it on my z3c, but I suggest you really look into it. Unfortunately they don't do a demo.
I'm a wedding photographer so this was ideal for me. I may investigate for something better (if there is), but I know I will be using this again, soon.
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It looks a nice app!!! I'll give it a try a tell you about how the snaps come out
I use the stock camera app.
I tried FV-5 and Pro Capture on my Nexus 4 but they were kinda glitchy. Might try them again on the Z3c. At the moment I'm using Open Camera.
I hope Sony offers RAW file support with the Lollipop update, which would make everything awesome and let us escape the mushy Sony jpeg processing, but I'm not holding my breath.
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It looks a nice app!!! I'll give it a try a tell you about how the snaps come out
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That's brilliant. I just checked, I have an older version..so will update when I install it on the xperia. It would be good to see what raw data the app can get from the sony imaging chip.
Even though its said that Android L will also have RAW capabilities. Lets see.
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I tried FV-5 and Pro Capture on my Nexus 4 but they were kinda glitchy. Might try them again on the Z3c. At the moment I'm using Open Camera.
I hope Sony offers RAW file support with the Lollipop update, which would make everything awesome and let us escape the mushy Sony jpeg processing, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I had the same problem initially on my HTC Once X, but they resolved it.
I would assume the Lollipop raw feature would be available to all phones running L, though I'm not a developer so just speculating.
wow it's looks like my nikon dslr!!! I like the idea to change all the setting as when I'm using my pro camera .... I still prefer take fast snaps with the phone but ...yeah sometimes it could be go play with all these settings !!! thank you!!!
I also discovered that there is a video version " Cinema FV-5" with pretty much the same controls...interesting.
Anyway I got an issue even with the pro version...I can't save the pictures in the sd card.
Is it the same for you?
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That's brilliant. I just checked, I have an older version..so will update when I install it on the xperia. It would be good to see what raw data the app can get from the sony imaging chip.
Even though its said that Android L will also have RAW capabilities. Lets see.
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I had the same problem initially on my HTC Once X, but they resolved it.
I would assume the Lollipop raw feature would be available to all phones running L, though I'm not a developer so just speculating.
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What ISO levels are selectable in the full version? The lite version only goes up to 3200...
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What ISO levels are selectable in the full version? The lite version only goes up to 3200...
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Well all parameters are based on each hardwares capability and drivers. The max I believe is ISO 3200, though my htc one x does not support that, but does go to extended ISO 50. Though, I was told custom roms (like on my htc) can restrict or help features too.
Speaking from using pro DSLR's, I would expect 3200 or more from a camera phones sensor to be very noisy. Obviously the Z3 series does go as high as 12,800, and uses their drm protected algorithms to handle the noise.
You could ask the developers, who are quite good, and see what MAX parameters the app supports for z3c. Tbh, I'd like to know that too.
FV-5 would automatically increase ISO value when the light is insufficient, and produce a lot noise in pictures.
The default Sony Camera would extend exposure time in such environment, according to the result of metering.
I did not find an app, outside the stock, with iso setting. I'm on stock kitkat. Had Sony blocked this setting for 3rd party apps or devs must use different api?
In my old Xiaomi all worked like a charm FV5, capture Pro and ABetter camera.
Camera app for photography
I am using google camera app. It is really good. It is responsive and easy-to-use design.
so, when i got the galaxy camera 2 part of my reason, a big part, was to take better pics than my old point and shoot. while pics are a bit better its pretty clear i am no wiz at taking good looking photos. in fact i would say im pretty useless. i pretty much have the thing set to "macro" and thats it. anytime i have tried to make use of the manual controls i end up producing utter crap.
so has anyone found a guide or soemthing that would help me to better make use of the camera and teach me how to make it take the photos i want to.
To make use of manual mode you need to understand how the camera handles light. A good basic guide is the book Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson. Whenever someone is interested in going beyond the cameras automatic setting, this is the book I suggest.
...hmmm, judging by the plea for help this seems more of a request towards artistic, rather than technical, guidance.
See, personally I bought a refurbed SGC2 to avoid all the manual settings and have the luxury of having a glorified Android tablet with a 16+MP point-n'-shooter. If I wanted to be more technically proficient a photobug, I would've shelled out more for an SLR, lenses, bags, stands, lighting gear, a high-end PC / Mac workstation, Photoshop, etc., Ugh!
I think you should Google, Youtube, or Khan Academy something on good shot composition and techniques, rather than tinkering with settings.
"Rule of thirds" is a great start and was a creative credo in my cinematography class in video production. I still suck at lighting, but I've taken that rule of thumb almost to an unconscious level.
Now I'm hoping your SGC2 is the one with Android on it because I bought it specifically for use with the Vignette photo app. (There's a free demo in Google Play.)
Run what you consider "crap" through this, mess with some presets and tinker around with some tweaks, add frames, and you'll look like an absolute genius.
I swear by this app and have yet to use the built in camera.
(I'm sure I'm limiting myself with the camera's capabilities, but I'm stubborn that way.)
The beauty of digital (as opposed to film) photography is that you can practically shoot forever within storage and power consumption limits.
Go nuts and experiment! Find your artistic niche!
Who knows, you just might actually step up to that SLR and go pro!
Happy shooting!
(I adore this camera, BTW and I'm still wondering if there's any reason for me to root it.
I honestly haven't found one, yet. I use it more as a camera, rather than a tablet.
We'll see.)
P.S., ...by the way, my avatar was shot on Vignette on my old-ass, rooted & ROM-ed, T-Mobile LG G2X with the Vignette app. I took the photo in it, square framed (with rounded corners) it, used the Ilford (B&W) preset, clicked the 'underexposed' customize, and voila! Otherwise, it would've been an average, run-of-the-mill photo of my GF and the cat.