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Any one considering the Ativ S?

If so, why??
The only reason I might buy it would be a very very low price as compared to Lumia or HTC...
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Which is the price?
I'm considering to buy it because of its specs and think it would be cheaper
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Probably I will buy this one.
2300 mah battery
sdcard support
thin and light

I'm very interested in the Ativ S, just hope it does come to Sweden. I was interested in HTC Surround, but it never got here.

ruyzalim said:
Which is the price?
I'm considering to buy it because of its specs and think it would be cheaper
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I'm just waiting for the prize of the device....if it's in the same range of the 8X and L920 ill rather take the 8S (im short of money xD)

I'm considering the Ativ S, entirely because of the large HD screen combined with a removable battery and SD card expansion (as well as the thin/light profile). I've been going back and forth for weeks about the merits of the Ativ vs the 920 (the 8X isn't an option for me with the amount of storage - I have 24 GB now and constantly run out of room).
I think the replaceable battery and storage expansion may win out over the screen improvements, camera, and other Nokia advantages. I need a lot of local storage, and I don't want to be stuck needing to plug in or carry a bulky morphie pack or something similar on top of an already very large phone profile. I've also a fan of AMOLED, even pentile AMOLED if the resolution is decent. Finally, I want to see how WP8 does as a gaming platform, and games will burn through batteries at 2-3x the rate of standard battery usage.
So... I'm seriously looking at the Ativ S. Will have to get a hold of the Ativ and 920 to compare before making a decision though.

Absolutely going with the ativ s. Ive seen people comparing it to the galaxy s3 like its a bad thing. Dont understand that logic.
Sd card
Largest screen
Removable battery
Thin/light
All have the same chipset
To me wireless charging is useless
"Better camera" is not great if you dont have the extra storage and have to transfer files a lot
Lumia screens are not centered on device
Support/upgrades for the device are bs after 6 months with any manufacturer as it mostly depends on your wireless carrier

Im getting the wife an ativ s as she loves the form factor of the s3 but the plastic feels cheap. If the Ativ also feels the same may have a rethink. I will be going for the lumia 920 but tbh i may also wait as it involves buying out anyway and i want to see if the MS made phone is legit.
I think the Ativ is unfairly looked over it has a good screen not lumia no but still top end and the battery is 15% bigger and you have sd card and having a full music collection is important as i do not allow iTunes on my computer now and carrying an extra device is just pointless. I think we should not underestimate the importance of getting the basics right, look at the 8x they put beats onboard with 2 amps etc then forgot that you need storage for music #iditots!

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Absolutely going with the ativ s. Ive seen people comparing it to the galaxy s3 like its a bad thing. Dont understand that logic.
Sd card
Largest screen
Removable battery
Thin/light
All have the same chipset
To me wireless charging is useless
"Better camera" is not great if you dont have the extra storage and have to transfer files a lot
Lumia screens are not centered on device
Support/upgrades for the device are bs after 6 months with any manufacturer as it mostly depends on your wireless carrier
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The Galaxy S3 is rumored to have wireless charging....so maybe the ATIV S does ? Just nothing published yet...
I really want the 920 but, I might take a serious look at the ATIV S, The larger screen, swappable batteries and the MicroSD might just win it out... I gota see/hold it to say for sure...unless my carrier (Verizon wireless in the US) ends up with the 920, I will get that, as the camera on the 920 wins it...

[Q] Q: Upgrade time, Which to go for?

My upgrade is coming up soon and am thinking of either the Samsung ATIVs, Nokia Lumia 820 or HTC 8x, These are the only viable options O2 have on offer at present, Looks as though they will not be stocking the Lumia 920.
I am currently using a Lumia 900 running 7.8 and have used a Lumia 820 before it had to be replaced, Wife now has my 820 and from my experience with Nokia and HTC I have not had much luck with reliability.
I have had a HTC Titan & Titan2 and love the large screens.
Question is do I take a gamble on the Samsung? Can anyone share their experiences and or preferences to help me make a decision?
Thanks in advance.

Hmm, tough one.
For me, Lumia920 is the WP8 uberphone just 4 now.
Samsungs Ativ? IMHO it has only 2 pros and much more contras.
Pros: Big screen (But AMOLED, not IPS), and good front facing camera (1.9 if I remember correctly)
Cons: cheap plastic, although looks good (at start), ugly (at least to me, and reminds a lot to S3 which I despise).
It has a SD card slot, but WP8 has no good management of SD cards, so I consider it a con
Also, Nokia has its premium services like City Lens, and Maps...
This is only my opinnion, possibly some1 else has another...
Good luck with the choice

Lumia all the way, I have an 822 and besides a few personal issues that I have with it; its a great phone. No more Bing Maps.:good:

I have an 8X and an Ativ S. I use the Ativ S as my daily. I much prefer it to the 8X.
The reasons?
1. Feels much nicer in the hand than the 8X.
2. Expandable storage means I don't have to mess around with cloud solutions.
3. Much better battery life.
4. Bigger screen.
5. Physical 'Home' button to wake the device rather than hunt for the on/off button.
6. Better FF camera.
7. Additional benefits such as ability to block callers etc.

Thanks for your input peeps, I imagined the Samsung would have had better build quality and I don't like the plastic feel mentioned, Also the raised home button is not so good for me so I guess that's out of the window, Shame as that large screen is tempting.
I really love the style of the Lumias (800-900) and the 820 seems to have gone away from the traditional Lumia image, Also battery life on the wifes 820 is not too great,
The 920 is the only thing that is on that path and it has a larger screen than the 820 and 8x.
As for the HTC8x I have no idea and never used one but expandable storage of the 820 and Samsung would be handy,
I think my only hope is that rather than upgrading through O2 I try maybe Carphone Warehouse or Phones4U in the hope they will be stocking the 920 on the O2 network early in March, I think 32gb is enough for songs and stuff at least for now,
Failing that I am still a bit stuck, Cheers. :fingers-crossed:

Just had a chat with an O2 advisor for all that it's worth and they said O2 will be stocking the Lumia 920 for my upgrade in March and to keep checking the coming soon link etc, Great news if it's true, If not I guess it will be a sim free handset and a re-mortgage :crying:

AndyFZ1S said:
My upgrade is coming up soon and am thinking of either the Samsung ATIVs, Nokia Lumia 820 or HTC 8x, These are the only viable options O2 have on offer at present, Looks as though they will not be stocking the Lumia 920.
I am currently using a Lumia 900 running 7.8 and have used a Lumia 820 before it had to be replaced, Wife now has my 820 and from my experience with Nokia and HTC I have not had much luck with reliability.
I have had a HTC Titan & Titan2 and love the large screens.
Question is do I take a gamble on the Samsung? Can anyone share their experiences and or preferences to help me make a decision?
Thanks in advance.
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Just a suggestion...if you can wait, that is....
If I myself would be upgrading to WP8, I would most definitely wait for Mobile World Congress due to other phones being announced then. There are rumors that Nokia is developing 920 successors and if my hunches are correct, they will be announced next month. -However, realistically they would only be announcing the phones...I'm sure there are a few/several months off from release time.
Soooo, that is just my 2 cents. If you don't really care for that then maybe Samsung is the route to go. However again, this could be entitled as my own opinion...Samsung/HTC seem to focus more on the droid side than what they do with WP7/(8?)...From experience with owning previous WP7 Samsung/HTC devices, don't expect too much in terms of "extra" WP8 satisfaction from these OEM's -compared to Nokia, that is.
Anyway...I wish you luck on your quest to finding a WP for you!

Thanks for all the input, I am going to see if O2 keep to their word for a Lumia 920 in March, Think sticking with Nokia would be the best deal seeing as they are 100% committed to WP, It would also be interesting to see what is around the corner too so for now my options are still open, Things hopefully can only get better now wp8 has had its teething problems and fixes are being made. :good:

[Q] Should I get a Lumia 520?

hey guys
ive been using a nexus s for the past few years, and i've enjoyed android, but ive realized to get a fast android you need to spend money. nexus s is good, but ive found it really slow and painful. also its broken now.
so what i now want to know is should i get a windows phone? ive heard they are fast and dont have to be very expensive. ive been looking at the lumia 520 and it looks pretty damn good for its price. if theres something better for about $200 australian please let me know here

The 520 is well worth it's money. Sure, you have to sacrifice a couple of things, but it's still miles ahead of similarly priced Android devices.
My sister bought one recently, she switched from Galaxy Mini, so obviously she's impressed with the phone's performance. Hell, I have an 820 for about a year now, and I was impressed with the 520. It really is a solid device all around, it even got the "Best low-cost smartphone award" at the MWC, so that tells you something.
520 is definitely a good starting point for trying out WP. On the other hand, you could go for the 620, it's similarly priced, but has some advantages. Have a look online and compare them and you'll see what suits you best...

Yeah.... not sure what the price of something like the 620 is in Aus, but it's worth looking around a bit. There aren't that many WP8 devices anyhow; you could basically compare them all on one page if you ignore minor variations.
The 520 is one of the lowest-end WP8 devices out there. It lacks quite a few things that are otherwise standard, like a camera flash LED, and has the minimum RAM that Microsoft allows (which means some games will not run on it). On the other hand, it performs all the core features of the OS, and runs most apps, quite well.

DaviUnic said:
The 520 is well worth it's money. Sure, you have to sacrifice a couple of things, but it's still miles ahead of similarly priced Android devices.
My sister bought one recently, she switched from Galaxy Mini, so obviously she's impressed with the phone's performance. Hell, I have an 820 for about a year now, and I was impressed with the 520. It really is a solid device all around, it even got the "Best low-cost smartphone award" at the MWC, so that tells you something.
520 is definitely a good starting point for trying out WP. On the other hand, you could go for the 620, it's similarly priced, but has some advantages. Have a look online and compare them and you'll see what suits you best...
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thats good to hear, thanks. ive done a bit more googling and just found out nokia has released the lumia 525, which has 1gb of ram compared to the 520's 512mb. the most annoying thing is it hasnt been released in australia yet. do you know if a windows phone like this bought online (unlocked) would work here... ive had problems with flashing the wrong radios on my nexus before, is there something similar that could occur in the windows os? ive always been cautious with buying online and there always seems to be a bigger risk with support and returning products

lukazar said:
thats good to hear, thanks. ive done a bit more googling and just found out nokia has released the lumia 525, which has 1gb of ram compared to the 520's 512mb. the most annoying thing is it hasnt been released in australia yet. do you know if a windows phone like this bought online (unlocked) would work here... ive had problems with flashing the wrong radios on my nexus before, is there something similar that could occur in the windows os? ive always been cautious with buying online and there always seems to be a bigger risk with support and returning products
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According to my research, Australia uses GSM-900 and 1800 bands, as does all of Europe, Africa, middle east and most of Asia. So if you're planning on buying the phone online, make sure it supports these two bands and that it's carrier unlocked and unbranded. As for 3G, Australia uses bands 1, 5 and 8. Other than that, you should be fine.
I forgot to mention the 525, so if you can, get that instead of the 520. Although RAM is the only difference, at least you'll be able to play all games, and it costs mostly the same.

DaviUnic said:
According to my research, Australia uses GSM-900 and 1800 bands, as does all of Europe, Africa, middle east and most of Asia. So if you're planning on buying the phone online, make sure it supports these two bands and that it's carrier unlocked and unbranded. Other than that, you should be fine.
I forgot to mention the 525, so if you can, get that instead of the 520. Although RAM is the only difference, at least you'll be able to play all games, and it costs mostly the same.
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thanks a bunch, but one more question, have you shopped for phones online before? and if so, where do you recommend i should shop?

Not really, someone else would probably be of more help than me...

I've had my 521 for few months now and have been very happy with it. Its the sister phone of the 520.
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I got mine (ATIV S, which is one of the more hackable WP8 models) off Amazon, but there are plenty of options.

I have the Lumia 520.. definitely worth the money. Camera is extremely good despite lack of flash, and it feels faster than my Nexus 4 more often than not.

lukazar said:
hey guys
ive been using a nexus s for the past few years, and i've enjoyed android, but ive realized to get a fast android you need to spend money. nexus s is good, but ive found it really slow and painful. also its broken now.
so what i now want to know is should i get a windows phone? ive heard they are fast and dont have to be very expensive. ive been looking at the lumia 520 and it looks pretty damn good for its price. if theres something better for about $200 australian please let me know here
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Hey, I recommend you very much, I have a Lumia 520 and it's pretty cool.
200$ is very much, you can get it for 60$ (for AT&T, with unlock code $90): http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Lumia-520-GoPhone-AT/dp/B00E45043A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393866160&sr=8-1&keywords=lumia+520

I would recommend Lumia 525. It is running Black (GDR3+Nokia features) and have 1GB RAM but has no LED flash. You may also look to 820 that has a better display and cam and priced about 280$ US in Russia (or 10000ք (Russian roubles)) also it`s no longer produced so you`ll probably need to find it

I like my Lumia 520 but the lack of a file manager, flash, and a better selection of apps were a bit disappointing. Also every time I turn on my phone I get an SD card warning even though my SD card is perfectly healthy and fine and works in both my computer and my secondary android phone. I reallllly am hoping 8.1 dramatically improves the phone.

slyr114 said:
Also every time I turn on my phone I get an SD card warning even though my SD card is perfectly healthy and fine and works in both my computer and my secondary android phone. I reallllly am hoping 8.1 dramatically improves the phone.
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That could be a defective unit, doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with the entire line of phones or even the OS itself...

DaviUnic said:
That could be a defective unit, doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with the entire line of phones or even the OS itself...
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Yes I realize my phone is most likely defective in that regard but I was not saying its a problem in the entire line of Lumias or even this specific model, just my personal experience. As for the last part about 8.1 improving the phone, that was just an in general thought, I really hope the new update improves everything I love about the phone and fixes what I do not. Also can anyone recommend a good music player with good playlist building support? The default music app is kind of convoluted in creating playlists right now.

Hi there, and good to see another potential convert!
I'm Kenneth, and I've been using a Nokia Lumia 620 for almost a year now, and I have been a Nokia user from the womb 'til the tomb. I've used the Lumia 710 as well for about half a year prior to my 620, so almost 1.5 years using Windows Phone. I have used both Android and iOS and have settled for Windows Phone because it just felt natural to me.
Anyway, enough of romanticizing my relationship with my Lumia 620. However, the Lumia 620 has the same internals as the Lumia 520, i.e. CPU, RAM, storage. Even though the specs are absolute bare minimums on the Lumia 520 and the Lumia 620, I've noticed that those phones are extremely snappy. They run majority of apps from the Store, however, not all that require 1GB+ RAM, which is a small minority. Furthermore, usually Windows Phone apps that require 1GB of RAM will get optimized to run on low-mem devices.
If you disregard what the specifications look like on paper, however, my phone has barely lagged with Windows Phone even though it uses the bare-minimum specs. Using Windows Phone is a very rewarding experience with constant updates that are quite uniform between all Windows Phone devices, with a few pretty quirks from Nokia if you have the Lumia series devices. Also, along with a fast and snappy OS, it looks beautiful and simple. Everything works and is quite logical. It is a difference to Android and iOS, a fresh face, which gives it a somewhat unorthodox approach to a smartphone UI. The apps bundled are also good value-adds.
Currently at **** Smith the Lumia 520 is on sale for $99 locked to Telstra in Australia. However, I am not sure if the offer has expired yet. Typically it's $149 outright. The only alternative I can think of is the HTC 8S which only has 4GB internal memory which is a suicide mission on Windows Phone, whereas the Lumia 520 has 8GB. So nothing is better there. However, it is a more rewarding experience using Nokia for WP because Nokia puts a lot of effort into the Lumia series compared to HTC and Samsung.
That's all I have to say, but hope it's all logical. Would definitely recommend a Lumia 520 mate, for that price range. However, a Lumia 620 might be a better bet with the front facing camera and the LED flash - if that matters to you because I chose 620 > 520 because of that factor. However, Lumia 620 is a bit fatter, and the screen is smaller, hence making it look a tad chubby.
Good luck with your phone choice, and I hope you enjoy being a Lumian/Windows Phone user when you do purchase one.
Oh, I almost forgot - if you need 1GB RAM, I would recommend checking out the Lumia 525 from http://www.kogan.com.au/ which is about $20 more than the 520 on the same site. It comes unlocked, runs more apps than the Lumia 520/620. Choose that phone if camera flash and front facing camera isn't important from the 620.
Kind regards,
kunafpls

slyr114 said:
I like my Lumia 520 but the lack of a file manager, flash, and a better selection of apps were a bit disappointing. Also every time I turn on my phone I get an SD card warning even though my SD card is perfectly healthy and fine and works in both my computer and my secondary android phone. I reallllly am hoping 8.1 dramatically improves the phone.
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A bit of a necro but I just noticed this thread in my secondary email, and I'd like to say I have this SD card problem as well on the 525 I did end up buying. The issue could have arisen when the card actually physically got jammed in the slot, and I had to remove it with tweezers. I'd test it with other SD cards but my only other ones are formatted to my PSP. It does get really annoying sometimes.

Should I get Nokia lumia 1020 or S5

Hey XDA Users Should I buy the Nokia or the Galaxy S5

If you want to go with windows phone get the htc one m8. If you want to go with android go with the lg g3.

Without more information about how you use a smartphone (or how you would like to use one), whether you're already invested in either the Android or Windows [Phone] marketplaces, and what kinds of things are important to you... there's no way to tell you.
The 1020 has by far the better camera, and will probably have better battery life.
The S5 has a bigger and better screen, and more features.
The S5 has much better specs (but Android needs better specs for a good experience than WP8 does).

it depends...
It highly depends on what you want, galaxy s5 probably has more features better battery backup (the difference is marginal though and depends on usage) but lumia 1020 has a better camera and a more stable OS.
What do you prefer, Android or WP. I use lumia 925 and i have used Android before. I prefer WP now but it has its own limitation which however should not be a dealbreaker. I prefer WP for its simplicity, stability and its improving everyday
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If you want to go with windows phone get the htc one m8. If you want to go with android go with the lg g3.
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HTC has got a poorer camera compared to other high-end devices, find lumia 930 instead. i have little or no objection about lg g3

Don't buy either. The 1020's only benefit is the camera and they're releasing a new 1020 like phone within the next 4 months most likely. The rest of the hardware in the 1020 is far from impressive. The 1520 and 930 camera is not better than the Lumia 1020 camera.. but it IS better than the S5 camera, by quite a margin since the Cyan update! Only to get better with Denim. Remember the Lumia 1020 has a few other drawbacks too, like a really slow camera (amazing pictures, but that thing is SLOW).
The S5 is a phone with a lot of partially functioning gimmicks and Android. It's only a consideration if you REALLY need specific things Android offers over WP8.1 But since 8.1 and 8.1 Update the list is shrinking rapidly. The LG L3 isn't much different from the Samsung S5 honestly, besides having a little less bloatware and a different setup for camera and all. Also the Samsung is a little smaller, which I personally prefer. 5.1" is really the maximum for me. I also prefer the amoled of the samsung over the LG screen. Sure the LG has a lot of pixels, but battery suffers for it a little and the difference between the samsung and LG .. I just couldn't see clearly enough to overcome the benefits of the amoled screen. And you won't notice the difference between 3GB and 2GB of ram. The LG is a phone that fights with specs, where they don't matter all that much for real world performance.
The HTC One M8 For Windows Phone (wtf name) looks OK, but it's also quite a lot more expensive than the 930, while offering very little benefits. If those differences are important enough for you, go for the HTC. But me personally, I hate the HTC design as it's way too geeky, while I love the green 930. Also camera is quite important to me, so that makes the HTC not an option anymore (the camera really is awful compared to Galaxy S5 and Lumia 930).
Like many I was a long time Android user and for some really weird reason I suddenly came home with a Lumia 925. After using that for a while, I just can't go back to Android. But if you're not spoiled by WP yet, your options are still open. I wouldn't hesitate for a second anymore and get a Lumia 930. It obviously offers everything the 1020 does and a lot more. Couple it with a DT-903 with the breathing light and it's the best you can get right now. (http://www.nokia.com/global/products/accessory/dt-903/)

Thanks
Thanks for all the replies but I am going to stick with android I just need help with the best android phone should I get the s5 or the 1+1

Or should I wait
To get the Note 4 Cause the Note 4 looks amazing in battery and performence :highfive:

Where are you guys
Hmm? no reply in a while oh well I guess the Note 4 it is then :good:

Note 4 or lumia 930 is the question you should be asking
And it's a tough choice but probably the Note 4 wins
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My house phone's better than your iPhone.

I think Lumia 1020 is outdated. You should consider recent models like 930 or 830.

Help - maybe buying a Windows Phone?

Well, I'm actually pretty satisfied with my HTC Sensation, but as I'm using Windows 8.1 on my PC and my Tablet is used for Android-Gaming, I was considering buying a Windows Phone.
I don't want to make too much steps back from my Sensation and as I found out, many Windows Phone HTC-Devices lack of microSDHC-Slot and GPS functionality, which I find neccessary.
I tried PDAdb, but except a bunch of Nokia Phones, which mostly all had a less display-res than my Sensation, there was no clear answer for me.
I don't need dual sim and a better Cam than my Sensation would be nice.
From the Uprade Standpoint - In don't know, how many Windows Phone 7 Devices get/got Windows Phone 8 or 8.1, so help would be fine.
In short, I'm looking for Whindows Phone Device, that has nearly the same, maybe a bit better Specs than my sensation, a better Cam and no need for dual sim.
Thanks in advance for any advices.

Okay... let's see...
What you want is a phone that has the same or better than your HTC sensation, right?
Screen: it has to be 720x1280 or better
Cam: It could be 8 MP but with better optics and algorithm.
MicroSD and GPS is a must...
With the config you mentioned, you basically get to choose the following phones:
Nokia Lumia 830
Nokia Lumia 1520
Samsung Ativ S
Samsung Ativ SE
Samsung Ativ S Neo
All other Nokia phones have the features you requested except the SD-card slot.
Now, all of those Windows Phones come with Windows Phone 8.0, which is upgradable to 8.1 and to 10.0 next year. Windows Phone 7 IS NOT upgradable to 8.0, so don't bother looking for those phones.
By the way, Windows Phone is very optimized so it will flow like silk no matter the model of the phone.

The Lumia 1320's camera might be a bit of a downgrade, but otherwise fits your list.
The HTC One M8 (for Windows) has a bit of an odd camera that you might call a "sidegrade", but is otherwise excellent.
There really need to be more phones with high specs *and* an SD card.

How about Lumia 730? Great display and decent camera.

Knowing the carrier is useful. I'm digging my new M8 though. I'll likely get a 128GB card soon and load this thing up with music.
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M8 with Windows is the way to go