The specs on the TP say it has a 6300mAh battery. Pictures show 6000mAh. Android battery settings and apps say it's 1500mAh. How cum?
shumash said:
The specs on the TP say it has a 6300mAh battery. Pictures show 6000mAh. Android battery settings and apps say it's 1500mAh. How cum?
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Android can't access the battery chip correctly, so most programs default to a average of 1500 that most cell batteries are. Some Touchpads got 6000 rated batteries and some got 6300, but they all vary a bit from that.
gradular said:
Android can't access the battery chip correctly, so most programs default to a average of 1500 that most cell batteries are. Some Touchpads got 6000 rated batteries and some got 6300, but they all vary a bit from that.
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I also figured out that Android uses a high/low voltage range to figure out what percentage of battery is left, so the actual capacity wouldn't be of much use other to determine exactly how many mWh is used by particular apps.
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Like the Title says. could someone tell me the difference between those two.
What i want to know is the battery life between those two, wich one is better.
what if ound whas only that Li-Po is newer. but nothing exactly that could tell me the difference.
the xperia comes with a Li-Po battery and the most HTC Phones come with Li-Ion.
hope someone could help me
Wikipedia is your friend.
orelsi said:
Wikipedia is your friend.
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I looked there they throw a lot of expensive words that i don't understand all
my question is more like what's better not how they work or how they have been made.
will it differ in battery life if i replace Li-Po 1500mAh with Li-Ion 1500mAh.
1500mAh == 1500 mili amp hours
thats a way to measure how many hours the batt
can provide 1.5 amps
so yes
Li-Po 1500mAh == Li-Ion 1500mAh
Rudegar said:
1500mAh == 1500 mili amp hours
thats a way to measure how many hours the batt
can provide 1.5 amps
so yes
Li-Po 1500mAh == Li-Ion 1500mAh
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I don't quite get your explanation, 1.5 amps?!? I think you have to measure power consumption in MILI amps and then divide 1500 by this value to find out how long the battery is gonna last... Right?
And about the difference between Li-Po and Li-Ion, Li-Po is more advanced technology and maintains the capacity better than Li-Ion, that is to say your battery lifetime will not shorten (as quickly) over time.
What i get from you Firefall is that when i'm using a Li-Po battery for a long time it wouldnt loose performence as fast as Li-Ion. I noticed that a Li-Ion battery looses performence after a while. had it with al my phones
"I don't quite get your explanation, 1.5 amps?!? I think you have to measure power consumption in MILI amps and then divide 1500 by this value to find out how long the battery is gonna last... Right?"
my explanation means that it can provide 1.5amps for that period of time
if your device only draw ½ that then of cause it will be able to provide that for 2 times
the hours
this been around since old school AA and AAA batteries
commodoor said:
What i get from you Firefall is that when i'm using a Li-Po battery for a long time it wouldnt loose performence as fast as Li-Ion. I noticed that a Li-Ion battery looses performence after a while. had it with al my phones
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You got it right.
Rudegar said:
my explanation means that it can provide 1.5amps for that period of time
if your device only draw ½ that then of cause it will be able to provide that for 2 times
the hours
this been around since old school AA and AAA batteries
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For WHICH period of time??? 1500 hours? You think your Xperia battery is gonna supply you with 1.5 AMPS for ****ing TWO MONTHS without interruption? I don't think so... You know, power consumption goes up to a maximum of maybe 50 MILI amp, if you turn Wifi on and stream a video. That's 0.05 amp. Thus your battery would have to last for almost two years with one charge if you're watching videos all the time. Standby for, umm, maybe a decade?! You wouldn't need a charger for your phone That's why I'm asking you to clarify this.
Firefall! said:
You got it right.
For WHICH period of time??? 1500 hours? You think your Xperia battery is gonna supply you with 1.5 AMPS for ****ing TWO MONTHS without interruption? I don't think so... You know, power consumption goes up to a maximum of maybe 50 MILI amp, if you turn Wifi on and stream a video. That's 0.05 amp. Thus your battery would have to last for almost two years with one charge if you're watching videos all the time. Standby for, umm, maybe a decade?! You wouldn't need a charger for your phone That's why I'm asking you to clarify this.
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1500 mAh means it can supply 1.5 amps of power for 1 hour. Obviously the xperia is not going to draw 1.5 amps of power.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.75 Amps of power for about 2 hours.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.15 Amps of power for about 10 hours.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.03 Amps of power for about 50 hours.
I am pretty sure that is right although the xpeia doesnt even draw 0.02 amps in stand-by mode.
Also i head that Li-Po is special because it can be made in any shape form or thickness or something like that but may need conformation on that
what he said
apart from 0.3->0.03
Rudegar said:
what he said
apart from 0.3->0.03
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oh ye - thanks lol
comeradealexi said:
1500 mAh means it can supply 1.5 amps of power for 1 hour. Obviously the xperia is not going to draw 1.5 amps of power.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.75 Amps of power for about 2 hours.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.15 Amps of power for about 10 hours.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.03 Amps of power for about 50 hours.
I am pretty sure that is right although the xpeia doesnt even draw 0.02 amps in stand-by mode.
Also i head that Li-Po is special because it can be made in any shape form or thickness or something like that but may need conformation on that
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Okay now I got it. We meant the same thing, but I couldn't follow your first articulation
comeradealexi said:
1500 mAh means it can supply 1.5 amps of power for 1 hour. Obviously the xperia is not going to draw 1.5 amps of power.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.75 Amps of power for about 2 hours.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.15 Amps of power for about 10 hours.
1500 would also mean you could supply 0.03 Amps of power for about 50 hours.
I am pretty sure that is right although the xpeia doesnt even draw 0.02 amps in stand-by mode.
Also i head that Li-Po is special because it can be made in any shape form or thickness or something like that but may need conformation on that
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I Found this thread of yours http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=510754 i read it long time ago. will this change with the new rom R3A or with wm6.5??
"Also i head that Li-Po is special because it can be made in any shape form or thickness or something like that but may need conformation on that"
I read that somewhere also, very neat.
and thnx everyone i now understand the battery consummation of xperia
commodoor said:
I Found this thread of yours http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=510754 i read it long time ago. will this change with the new rom R3A or with wm6.5??
"Also i head that Li-Po is special because it can be made in any shape form or thickness or something like that but may need conformation on that"
I read that somewhere also, very neat.
and thnx everyone i now understand the battery consummation of xperia
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Im not too sure - was told it wasnt very accurate anyway but it probbably wouldnt change very significantly if at all
Ok thnx for your help. i'm much smarter now
commodoor said:
Ok thnx for your help. i'm much smarter now
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And knowledge is power!!
as I understand, the most significant difference between li-pol and li-on is that li-pols are squishable, and you can make your lithium polymer battery to quite literally and shape and size, and thus fit it into all the little crevices, making the battery larger and higher capacity, whereas li-ons are more rigid and you can't do that with.
flashpanda said:
as I understand, the most significant difference between li-pol and li-on is that li-pols are squishable, and you can make your lithium polymer battery to quite literally and shape and size, and thus fit it into all the little crevices, making the battery larger and higher capacity, whereas li-ons are more rigid and you can't do that with.
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Sweet - thanks for conformation
Say a battery is advertised @ 1300mah, how close will the actual value be to the advertised value? Im asking this because a 'premium' 1400mah battery is significantly more expensive, but how do you know your getting what youve paid for?
dogiedogie said:
Say a battery is advertised @ 1300mah, how close will the actual value be to the advertised value? Im asking this because a 'premium' 1400mah battery is significantly more expensive, but how do you know your getting what youve paid for?
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you have a nexus one? cause that comes with a 1400mAh battery. usually they are +/- 50mAh or so. my nokia n97 came with a 1350 mAh battery, but actually battery was 1290mah. the nexus has been said to have a 1360mAh battery for some. each battery is slightly different. read the huge battery testing thread.
I had not been using my WebOS Only Touchpad for close to a year. It Fired Up Instantly with 100% Battery Life. My battery has a Manufacturer Rating of
5647 mAh with a Calculated Life left of 5365mAh along with a Health Rating of 95 with Dr.Battery. My Question is why does my Battery Charge Up to 6300 mAh ???
Thanks in advance for any help.
Izzyb914 said:
I had not been using my WebOS Only Touchpad for close to a year. It Fired Up Instantly with 100% Battery Life. My battery has a Manufacturer Rating of
5647 mAh with a Calculated Life left of 5365mAh along with a Health Rating of 95 with Dr.Battery. My Question is why does my Battery Charge Up to 6300 mAh ???
Thanks in advance for any help.
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first where have you come up with these numbers? most stock hp batts are rated at 6000mah which is listed on the batt. and the only way Ive seen to acuratly find out how many mah your batt actually has is by hooking it up to a battery conditioner which would run the batt through 3-5 working cycles (charge up then discharge three times) and then would take the average between the three and display it on the batt conditioner. Ive only seen them at my old work (batteries plus) and those machines are not cheep. and were mainly use for the older ni-cad batts to either correct "the memory" problem or to match cells to gain peek performance. if its just a app on the device telling you that well their not the most accuret when the battery still in the device and just be glad its not less than whats its rated at
hope this helps a little
Hi, I recently got a Z3 compact from clove uk. And I haven't seen the 6+ hours of screen on times that other people are reporting. I've had Battery Monitoring Widget on the the phone since the beginning, and while the system files say the battery has 2663mAh of capacity, the app only records me using up to 2300mAh of battery from full to dead.
I'm not worried about the perceived runtimes as I'm in a bad cell service area and I still have the new phone syndrome. But the physical capacity of the battery seems to be lower than stated on my device. Does anyone else use the battery monitoring widget and can report their numbers?
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Burlingtonrox said:
Hi, I recently got a Z3 compact from clove uk. And I haven't seen the 6+ hours of screen on times that other people are reporting. I've had Battery Monitoring Widget on the the phone since the beginning, and while the system files say the battery has 2663mAh of capacity, the app only records me using up to 2300mAh of battery from full to dead.
I'm not worried about the perceived runtimes as I'm in a bad cell service area and I still have the new phone syndrome. But the physical capacity of the battery seems to be lower than stated on my device. Does anyone else use the battery monitoring widget and can report their numbers?
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My battery is now at 45% and it shows a capacity of 1197 / 2662mAh.
xwanderer said:
My battery is now at 45% and it shows a capacity of 1197 / 2662mAh.
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If you goto the compare tab of Battery Monitoring widget, what's the measured capacity of your battery?
Burlingtonrox said:
If you goto the compare tab of Battery Monitoring widget, what's the measured capacity of your battery?
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Right now it shows "0" but I will charge it right now and tell you. I have only just installed the app. No measurement yet.
xwanderer said:
Right now it shows "0" but I will charge it right now and tell you. I have only just installed the app. No measurement yet.
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Thanks for checking, for more accurate results, it's best if you could run the phone from 100% to dead once or twice, so the monitor can capture the full range of your battery.
Burlingtonrox said:
Thanks for checking, for more accurate results, it's best if you could run the phone from 100% to dead once or twice, so the monitor can capture the full range of your battery.
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It will take some time though. That battery just won't die :laugh:
To whatever extent you have "new cell syndrome", it's gonna appear as reduced capacity.
First result at +-27% accuracy: 2280 mAh
Charging cycles: 2
xwanderer said:
First result at +-27% accuracy: 2280 mAh
Charging cycles: 2
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If you can get a number with accuracy below 10%, that would be best, cause batteries are usually manufactured to 10% capacity accuracy.
Thank you
Allright - just don't expect to see the final results within the next few hours
It now says:
+-12% accuracy and still 2280mAh
After unplugging the charger it's: 2253mAh
The value went up to 2398mAh. Accuracy is still at +-12%.
xwanderer said:
The value went up to 2398mAh. Accuracy is still at +-12%.
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Ok, thanks
Mime says 2440mAh with accuracy at +-5%.
What kind of screen on time are you seeing?
If I remember correctly I had a maximum of ~7 hrs screentime. I did some benchmarking and stuff like that so I'm pretty satisfied with battery life.
Unless I am misinterpreting the info from CPU-Z and Widgets, the Note 9 appears to charge the battery beyond 4.2v. Shortening its lifespan by about 50%.
Chart from
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Fourth chart on that page.
The Li-ion batteries in most phones I've seen go above 4.2V. Yes this is outside of the norm when it comes to Li-ion batteries but Samsung seems to have battery tech down, they claimed 95% capacity remaining after 2 years of use for the Note 8, so I would assume the Note 9 would do as well or better.
PDAH said:
Unless I am misinterpreting the info from CPU-Z and Widgets, the Note 9 appears to charge the battery beyond 4.2v. Shortening its lifespan by about 50%.
Chart from
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Fourth chart on that page.
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Hard to tell, depends on the exact tech/modification of the tech they use in the batteries. It's not that simple to just generalise about standard basic li-ion tech.
After almost 3 years and 764 charge cycles of which less than 5 were fast charging (and those were only between about 40-80%), my Note 9 original battery has almost exactly 3000mAh of capacity left. Not too shabby!