Yeah yeah I know its got Stamina Mode BUT! is anyone a little worried like me that the battery is 2330 and with a 5 inch screen and all those pixels its going to drain pretty fast. Todays phones with 720 screens and less pixels aren't the best. I'm still getting the phone but anyone else think we aren't in for glorious battery life here. (Stamina Mode may be the perfect fix for this though)
im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
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im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
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Yeah, thats the part of the reviews I will be taken proper interest in.
Coming from the One X, I'm not too worried about battery life as I'd be fairly confident it could last a bit longer than that phone. I charge my phone every night so once I get a day out of it thats fine.
I would like to see a review on the battery life though.
2330 AMH is really good though
I have 3100mah on my Galaxy Note 2 right now. Pretty huge battery - was supposed to last 3 days - it barely lasts 48 hours of "normal use". Not worried about Xperia Z, if 3100mah can't supply more than 5-6 screen time or 48+ hours - no battery will. If it lasts 2 full days, i'll be more than happy.
From what I've heard it's actually surprisingly good. Keep your brightness in check and you'll be fine. Both the Snapdragon S4 Pro and the MDM9215 are pretty efficient chips. The S4 Pro has (according to Qualcomm at least) a pretty high performance per watt so should do pretty well with relatively little power use.
From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
Early tests not so encouraging. Worse than the nexus 4. Of course screen brightness etc aren't known at this point.
Let's hope it gets better with more charge cycles etc.
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Doesn't look too good. 9 hours with 3h screen time... but the screen drained 42% of the battery so i guess it must have been under some heavy stress. Hope to see some more tests/reviews asap.
yeah, all we can do is wait for the NDA to break. I really hate waiting.
hope the battery's up to scratch because i haven't been this excited for a phone in a long time.
When do nda normally break? Seeing as it should release in some territories in a few weeks, I'm surprised there haven't been more reviews. Hoping to see some from the big sites any day now, especially the verge, gsmarena etc, as I'm really interested in battery life. Would need about 3.5 hours screen on time on mid brightness on 4g over say 15 hours off charger to work for me. Guess I could make do with 3 hours, but whichever of the new 5 inch phones does this will get my money. Come on Sony, don't disappoint me, cause I love the look of this phone!
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A) reviews take time
B) It seems as though the CES units were not final... so the final product may not have been available until very recently.
Sony stores/reps are starting to get their demo units (which should be final hardware) so hopefully more reviews soon.
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
M.
mattman83 said:
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
M.
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And by looking at some threads here - it's perfectly understandable. People freaking out about things that are not even present in the real device like older software, lower benchmarks due to debugging firmware etc. But i'm really dying to see the battery life... if it's non-removable and it won't last 48+ hours of normal use, than it's not good. If it won't last 24+ hours of normal use than i guess i might reconsider ( and by normal use i mean texting, calling, maybe some music - not playing with it every second, that's reserved for few first days )
That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
Akiainavas said:
From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Juice defender kills apps but issue with this is apps relaunch itself and then juice defender kicks in and kills it again and ends up in an infinite loop of killing and reviving of processes. The difference with stamina mode is that it was officially made by manufacturer within the ROM. So when you set it to get killed when screen is off there's something within the framework of the android core which they programmed to really halt the operation of the app/process and not just killing it. So in the end it is totally stopped
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That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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The thing with the S4 pro is that it can go both ways as far as efficient hardware is concerned. I think it has something to do with thermal insulation.
The nexus 4 and it's 2100ish mAh has notoriously poor battery times - in my testing, tapping out at just under 3 hours screen usage in around 8-10 hours of total use (everything stock + 4.2.1).
My padfone 2, on the other hand, with the same battery/screen size is a battery champ - regularly get 5 to 5.5 hours screen usage over a period of 18-20 hours. It beats out all my previous phones for battery life (minus the note 2), including the GS3 which had good battery life itself.
And no, i don't belive in disabling google now and push notifications. Without them the nexus 4 does better but the padfone 2 and its s4 pro do brilliant with them on.
redThd said:
Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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Why would you guys use JD for killing apps? That doesn't make sense. Its main use is to manage radios etc. depending on battery & screen status. Anyway didn't do much for me so switched from that to Tasker.
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((Please leave out any discussions about the "dangers" of updating in this thread))
So I updated via the leaked OTA 3 days ago and all is well so far. My battery has definitely improved by two fold (doubled). Prior to update my D3 would only go about half a day on light usage. Now it goes past 24 hours easy and could most likely push 36 hours (light use, wifi on 24/7).
However today I actually have been using my device quite a bit. Nothing heavy, really just organizing home screens and other duties of the sort.
So I look into my battery usage and after 6 hours my battery is at 40-50% with the display consuming a large amount of the battery. Brightness is at Automatic and the display itself has been on for 3 hours while using 50% of the battery. Is this normal or should % usage be more dispered between the running programs? I imagine the way battery usage stats work is that there will always be a program at the top with 40-50%... but maybe im (dead) wrong?
Also, how has your battery been since update?
(TL; DR) Display is raping my battery post-update, sup?
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...Battery just hit 5% after 8 hours and 4 hours of display on. It unbelievably dropped from 15% to 5% with no brightness in less than a half hour, oh and I was in airplane mode. Literally all I've been doing since I turned my phone on today is have music playing and tweak my homescreen settings.
On standby the battery kicks ass but wow if I actually want to use my phone, the battery is as good as dead.
Im going to try out the standard battery that came with my D3 tomorrow and see if I get better results. Maybe its just my extended battery that's faulty.
If that fails then there has to be something wrong with the way my display draws juice from the battery... and ill probably have to get a replacement ... fml ... those crappy refurbed phones.
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Battery life for me is mostly improved. I say mostly because in weak coverage areas this thing destroys battery life fast! 20% or more per hour kind of fast. Still better than stock, but not much in weak coverage.
Strong coverage areas, phone is much improved for battery life. Seems to be a baseband issue. Hint hint Moto.
What I have noticed the most, is that my data roaming enabled setting actually sticks now, even if i lose coverage. For me, that was one of the biggest things against this phone. It made my data so impossible to stay connected, it almost wasn't woth having.
I too have the official Moto extended battery, but i still struggle to get 24 hours out of my device with very mild usage. For example, i am at 15 hours now, no wi-fi usage, no bluetooth usage, both off, cdma mode only and display on time of 23 minutes total for that time. I'm now at 15%.
My other phones, 2 Eris, and 1 Inc2, get anywhere from 2.5-4 days on this kind of use. I am thinking about ditching this battery monger for an Inc2 until Moto gets their shnizit together, or CM7 is available via a custom recovery and unlocked bootloader.
I am loving having my data available without needing to recheck the data roaming box 100 times a day, and other fixes. I am glad i used the leaked update, as my phone was close to a brick without it anyhow.
Now all we need is the new soak test update to ensure we're official...my gut tells me we are.
Anyone else having issues with Swype predicting in Spanish after the leaked update was applied? Only happens in one app for me, so far.
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wattnxt said:
Battery life for me is mostly improved. I say mostly because in weak coverage areas this thing destroys battery life fast! 20% or more per hour kind of fast. Still better than stock, but not much in weak coverage.
Strong coverage areas, phone is much improved for battery life. Seems to be a baseband issue. Hint hint Moto.
What I have noticed the most, is that my data roaming enabled setting actually sticks now, even if i lose coverage. For me, that was one of the biggest things against this phone. It made my data so impossible to stay connected, it almost wasn't woth having.
I too have the official Moto extended battery, but i still struggle to get 24 hours out of my device with very mild usage. For example, i am at 15 hours now, no wi-fi usage, no bluetooth usage, both off, cdma mode only and display on time of 23 minutes total for that time. I'm now at 15%.
My other phones, 2 Eris, and 1 Inc2, get anywhere from 2.5-4 days on this kind of use. I am thinking about ditching this battery monger for an Inc2 until Moto gets their shnizit together, or CM7 is available via a custom recovery and unlocked bootloader.
I am loving having my data available without needing to recheck the data roaming box 100 times a day, and other fixes. I am glad i used the leaked update, as my phone was close to a brick without it anyhow.
Now all we need is the new soak test update to ensure we're official...my gut tells me we are.
Anyone else having issues with Swype predicting in Spanish after the leaked update was applied? Only happens in one app for me, so far.
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Lol the thing is I live in NYC so there are no weak coverage areas except the subway and I put my phone in airplane mode during those times.
Im sure we wont have any problems updating when the new OTA hits (whether through legit ways or otherwise)
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The battery icon is misleading after the update. 60% - 70% reads more like 80% or 90%
Bobbar said:
The battery icon is misleading after the update. 60% - 70% reads more like 80% or 90%
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Would another battery widget fix that?
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Would another battery widget fix that?
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Yes.
The battery stats (system reported percentage) appear unchanged, it's just the rendering of the stock icon that seems to be different.
*EDIT*
I use Battery Circle, as it reports in increments of 1%. I'm sure there are others.
Post-update, my battery usage has been noticeably improved. Before updating, it seemed that my battery drained at about the same rate regardless of how much or how little I actually used the phone (excepting major battery hogs, like fancy games or navigation). Now, the drop, when not being used, is significantly slower compared to before. Battery drain when actually using the phone seems about the same. So, overall, I'd say the processes like phone idle and cell standby have been optimized to great success.
-SR-
PS: "Display" now consistently lands at the top of the usage list, as is to be expected, and is much more believable than before the update.
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Post-update, my battery usage has been noticeably improved. Before updating, it seemed that my battery drained at about the same rate regardless of how much or how little I actually used the phone (excepting major battery hogs, like fancy games or navigation). Now, the drop, when not being used, is significantly slower compared to before. Battery drain when actually using the phone seems about the same. So, overall, I'd say the processes like phone idle and cell standby have been optimized to great success.
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PS: "Display" now consistently lands at the top of the usage list, as is to be expected, and is much more believable than before the update.
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Totally agree. My battery seems about the same if I actually use my phone but on standby my phone lasts like a champ.
I tried using my standard battery today and it lasted half as long as my extended one. Still, I doubt there's anything physically wrong with my phone... I guess batteries just suck all around lol
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Battery still sucks for me after update display is raping it for me as well..
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Anyone else having issues with Swype predicting in Spanish after the leaked update was applied? Only happens in one app for me, so far.
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Yeah I noticed that too. If you go into Settings under Keyboard and Language, you can change it back to English.
After the update and debloat my battery was still struggling so I froze the task manager built into blur with TB and it seemed to have improved my battery just throwing that out there...
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After the update and debloat my battery was still struggling so I froze the task manager built into blur with TB and it seemed to have improved my battery just throwing that out there...
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Any repercussions? I heard freezing the task manager can have adverse effects on your phone. Also by how much did your battery increase, Im trying to see if taking the risk is worth it. The app is called taskmanager.apk I assume?
thanks
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Any repercussions? I heard freezing the task manager can have adverse effects on your phone. Also by how much did your battery increase, Im trying to see if taking the risk is worth it. The app is called taskmanager.apk I assume?
thanks
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No repercussions yet its been froze for about a day now and im getting about an extra 10% or so my battery meter shows
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Ok so I froze the social location apk and can't believe how much my battery life improved...
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After the OTA update, I went from getting 8-12hrs of use to 2days easy.
That's with 85% left.
Also, I love that the battery symbol is fixed now. It pissed me off seeing the battery lose a bar when it hit 94%. Threw me off so bad.
Ive got GN for 4 days use, a screen is hot and battery life is only less than 1 day normal use.
Is your Note have a same? Pls share, worry if need to replace a new Note
vuvan said:
Ive got GN for 4 days use, a screen is hot and battery life is only less than 1 day normal use.
Is your Note have a same? Pls share, worry if need to replace a new Note
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I'm not getting nearly the battery life that others are claiming.
I just calibrated my battery this time, so we'll see how it goes.
Please post a screen shot of your 'settings -> about phone -> battery usage' and click on display and tell us the 'time on' numbers.
I have about 2 hours of 'time on' time, and I've gone through a third of my battery. And I have very conservative screen settings. I don't see any way I could get the reported 9 hours of video time that Engadget reported.
I'm not complaining though - on my mytouch 4g, I could get probably 3-4 hours of screen time on a battery. Considering how powerful this phone is, and the size/resolution of the screen...... No real complaints.
- Frank
P.S. Can you imagine a hyperion extended battery? The stock mytouch 4g battery is 1400, and the hyperion extended is 3500. So a hyperion extended battery for the note would be ..... 6250 mah??!?!? [email protected] What we need is an ibm 'slice' type of battery - that wouldn't add much thickness.
ChodTheWacko said:
I'm not getting nearly the battery life that others are claiming.
I just calibrated my battery this time, so we'll see how it goes.
Please post a screen shot of your 'settings -> about phone -> battery usage' and click on display and tell us the 'time on' numbers.
I have about 2 hours of 'time on' time, and I've gone through a third of my battery. And I have very conservative screen settings. I don't see any way I could get the reported 9 hours of video time that Engadget reported.
I'm not complaining though - on my mytouch 4g, I could get probably 3-4 hours of screen time on a battery. Considering how powerful this phone is, and the size/resolution of the screen...... No real complaints.
- Frank
P.S. Can you imagine a hyperion extended battery? The stock mytouch 4g battery is 1400, and the hyperion extended is 3500. So a hyperion extended battery for the note would be ..... 6250 mah??!?!? [email protected] What we need is an ibm 'slice' type of battery - that wouldn't add much thickness.
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That is too bad, I am looking forward to the phone but was really looking forward to a good day of heavy use in...
Well, I'm getting a good days use from mine with battery still left at the end of the day. And it's pretty heavy use at the moment too.
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Battery Life is one of my top priorities, which is why this phone seems to be amazing. I would like to hear from more users about this..
I can't wait until ICS & devs start making ROMs & kernel for the Note. I think then, we will see the Note truly shine.
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Battery Life is one of my top priorities, which is why this phone seems to be amazing. I would like to hear from more users about this..
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What kind of battery life test would satisfy you then?
For instance:
I have used a variety of phones over the last 6 months (BB Torch 9800, Torch 9810, BB Bold 9700, Bold 9900, Galaxy 7" Tab P1000, HTC WP7 Mozart) and none of these devices can deal with my pattern of usage every day without at LEAST 2 full depletions and recharges of the battery.
I'm looking to the Note to be the first phone that can last a day, or at LEAST a day with only one recharge.
Engadget reckoned they got 9 hours of video playback on one charge. I do hope that this is indicative of the notes performance...
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What kind of battery life test would satisfy you then?
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I am a heavy user. The only battery test I want is if the batter has juice left in it when you are ready to go to bed. I have a 4G Infuse, the POS would die in 6 hours. So lame.
After one day:
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Your post doesn't tell how the battery life is good. The part that consume the most of the juice is the display and I can see from your post that the screen of your Note was awake just for a little time...
So, trying a browsing and video experience would give us a better idea
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I can tell you right now just by looking at the screenshot you have something keeping your phone awake. No way in the world is Android OS supposed to be that high. Figure out what it is and you'll definitely see better battery life. 90% positive it's an app you installed.
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That's a known ROM/kernel bug in Gingerbread, with AOS taking up so much time. It will be fixed in custom ROMs - though who knows if Samsung will fix theirs ??
Battery tip, if you have NO SIM card in, "cell standby" will tear through your battery in no time. Put it in airplane mode, then enable wifi FTW.
I'm having the same problem. Really frustrating. Needing a recharge every 12 hours or so. And I'm not a heavy user :-/
Dear all,
Today I change a animate wallpaper to static, the result is good, my battery level after same hour, same use is much better.
Before, I full charge at nigh, start use the phone from 7am, web, email at cafe to 8am, have some phone call, email, and web again from 9pm to 11pm.
With animated wallpaper, at 11pm battery is 0, but today, its still at 50%, its good!
vuvan said:
Dear all,
Today I change a animate wallpaper to static, the result is good, my battery level after same hour, same use is much better.
Before, I full charge at nigh, start use the phone from 7am, web, email at cafe to 8am, have some phone call, email, and web again from 9pm to 11pm.
With animated wallpaper, at 11pm battery is 0, but today, its still at 50%, its good!
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Animated wallpapers are battery death unless they are pseudo animations like that melting droid wallpaper which is effectively a giant battery meter. It's like playing a movie constantly.
When judging battery life, you should take in account that if you just have bought the device, you maybe are using it more than you will in the future. (I said maybe, don't jump at me )
I did... And I got 12 hrs or something.... I think that I will manage a good day with it in the future.
Of course the largest consumer of juice will be the screen... So, use a low brightness whenever you can.
And, I bought Juice Defender + from the Market, this seems a good investment and works fine on the Note. (Free version does too)
http://www.juicedefender.com/
I can live with a data connection that just every 15 minutes goes on to check mail etc.
(although some people complain when they don't hear from me within a minute )
Gede said:
When judging battery life, you should take in account that if you just have bought the device, you maybe are using it more than you will in the future. (I said maybe, don't jump at me )
I did... And I got 12 hrs or something.... I think that I will manage a good day with it in the future.
Of course the largest consumer of juice will be the screen... So, use a low brightness whenever you can.
And, I bought Juice Defender + from the Market, this seems a good investment and works fine on the Note. (Free version does too)
http://www.juicedefender.com/
I can live with a data connection that just every 15 minutes goes on to check mail etc.
(although some people complain when they don't hear from me within a minute )
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No push email!?
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No push email!?
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Still push email. But just pushing it every 15 minutes only..... (because of Juice Defender)
I don't mind. Life is fast enough as it is, they can miss me for 15 minutes
You may want to see this:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-review-04193076/
Use find on the web page tool to skip to appropriate section: "Phone and Battery"
The battery on my Note is decent, giving me 2-3 days of moderate use or roughly a full day with heavy use.
Problem is when the battery decreases to around 40% & lower, the battery drains like anything even when not used.
Simply idling the phone would lose roughly 5-6% over an hour.
When the battery is around 20% it will easily run down to 10% and less over a period of a few hours when doing NOTHING.
Yet when then battery is at 80 & 90% it will lose around 5-6% battery over many hours.
Here is the proof, I took a screenshot of the battery information & you will clearly see rapid drops in battery life when at 50% and less.
On the last 20% it goes down even faster, and this is with NO use at all.
I hope this is fixed in ICS as it's a serious problem.
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Pretty flat at the end there, even while being used.
I have seen that reported elsewhere, but not seen it on my own Note. I have just settled it into a new pattern after rooting and deleting the stats, so I am not certain right now, but I think it remains fairly even over the whole cycle.
I am not sure I could use is as little as you appear to have however!
I've yet to get my Note battery to last until 2 days, and not even a full 24 hours (almost heavy usage on data network).
So I guess that's good enough that yours lasted for almost 3 days!
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I've yet to get my Note battery to last until 2 days, and not even a full 24 hours (almost heavy usage on data network).
So I guess that's good enough that yours lasted for almost 3 days!
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Haha, don't get me wrong, I think the battery is great.
I'm only wondering why it goes so quickly when it's at 40% and under...
This seems odd. I'd say I'm having the same issue (the poor battery performance).
I've been trying to analyse this but don't have much time to do it right. From what I'm seeing the battery usage graph looks legit. Phone seems to enter deep sleep states. Nonetheless Note seems to drain the battery a lot faster in deep sleep than my Galaxy 3 does, which is odd considering Note having 3 times larger battery capacity.
What seems odd too is extremely slow suspend/resume cycles (e.g. the time it takes for the phone to turn the screen off/show lock screen). It takes more than a second on my Note to show the lock screen. I've seen other report this too. A friend of mine shocked a salesman on a Samsung booth lately when he showed him that. Galaxy S2 is thunderfast, while Galaxy Note takes ages to resume. My Galaxy 3 takes <0.5s. I've looked into the `dmesg` output for some hints. I'm no guru in this, but `ehci` seems to be taking some time to suspend/resume. This also converges with my other observation - Galaxy Note notoriously locks up when playing with usb host. I've tried couple of keyboard/mouse on usb - some of them do work, some of them don't (I can see 'Mouse/Keyboard' connected on the statusbar but there's no mouse pointer nor keyboard input is possible; after some time it's most likely to hard lock the system).
Thus I would suspect buggy usb host/otg hardware/driver that's leading to such a poor battery performance. But hey, maybe it's just me and my theories. Nevertheless something must be broken.
My battery is terrible.
With soe usage, mostly data, I'll drop from 100% to 60% in 3 to 4 hours.
Im on rocket rom.
Only 1 heavy gmail syncing and 3 other gmails with barely an email per week and facebook syncing.
And microsoft exchange calendar syncing (no email syncing).
No twitter.
No other apps.
But im on H+ most of the time.
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I know HSPA (H+) eats battery because I turned off my data for 2 days and battery latest me 1.5 days.
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My battery is terrible.
With soe usage, mostly data, I'll drop from 100% to 60% in 3 to 4 hours.
Im on rocket rom.
Only 1 heavy gmail syncing and 3 other gmails with barely an email per week and facebook syncing.
And microsoft exchange calendar syncing (no email syncing).
No twitter.
No other apps.
But im on H+ most of the time.
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I know HSPA (H+) eats battery because I turned off my data for 2 days and battery latest me 1.5 days.
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I found gmail syncing kills the battery very very fast. try to disable auto sync and see if that helps
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I found gmail syncing kills the battery very very fast. try to disable auto sync and see if that helps
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Why in the world would I do that?
Its 2012. I need/want my data pushed.
Turning off auto sync would be like me going back to 2004.
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Why in the world would I do that?
Its 2012. I need/want my data pushed.
Turning off auto sync would be like me going back to 2004.
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I just made a suggestion, that's all. I'm trying to help you save battery. If you want all the bells and whistles and want battery then going for the extended battery is your route. I don't think you will get much more from the standard.
I have had troubles with battery life since I bought this beauty. I have been trying several Roms and Kernels, and none seem to make much difference. I also tried selecting among governors but still no better luck.
When I have 20-24hrs battery life it is very good!
The only thing that allowed me to save some was to reduce lcd intensity, and use the Note in dark environments.
Maybe I am using it more than the average user, but with all the opportunities it provides, I can hardly refrain myself from using it.
My typical use is:
- Radio and surf when going to work and home,
- Email and surf every hour at work
- About 10-20mn phone calls
- Listening to music when I can be alone working (1-2 hrs each day)
- Tablet use when at home.
Do you consider this to be a very heavy usage of the phone ?
I have just had my Note for a few days. The biggest battery eater in my case is WiFi. If I switch it off, the discharge is quite acceptable (a couple of percent during the night). I am not deep into Android internals, but it seems my 5-year-old Palm TX had much better WiFi power management than my brand new Note!
BTW, I am on a stock ROM and have disabled auto-sync.
Have you tried wiping battery stats? Let the phone completely die then charge it without interruption until it's been on 100% for an hour then boot to CWM and wipe battery stats
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I just made a suggestion, that's all. I'm trying to help you save battery. If you want all the bells and whistles and want battery then going for the extended battery is your route. I don't think you will get much more from the standard.
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I thank you.
I wasn't lashing out at you. I know you were trying to help.
It was directed to the R&D at Samsung.
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Maybe I am using it more than the average user, but with all the opportunities it provides, I can hardly refrain myself from using it.
My typical use is:
- Radio and surf when going to work and home,
- Email and surf every hour at work
- About 10-20mn phone calls
- Listening to music when I can be alone working (1-2 hrs each day)
- Tablet use when at home.
Do you consider this to be a very heavy usage of the phone ?
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I do not consider the battery able to cope with the features.
I'm on H+. why wont I have everything auto syncing?
Battery should support the phone features.
Rght now I'm always connected to a power source via USB or car charger or home charger.
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Why in the world would I do that?
Its 2012. I need/want my data pushed.
Turning off auto sync would be like me going back to 2004.
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well... then stop complaining about your battery drainage...
The other guy were simply gave you a advice as to why your battery were used up so fast....
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well... then stop complaining about your battery drainage...
The other guy were simply gave you a advice as to why your battery were used up so fast....
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I can complain. I paid $750 for it.
The bells and whistles are there but the battery can't cope. Major flaw in battery implementation.
I already told the other guy i appreciate his help but that defeats the purpose of such an advanced and sophisticated mobile phone.
I had a SE symbian for 3 years then several HTC WM 6 mobiles, then a year of HTC Desire then an iPhone 4 for 1.5 years. I'll head towards the best regardless of brand.
Quit being a fanboy.
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well... then stop complaining about your battery drainage...
The other guy were simply gave you a advice as to why your battery were used up so fast....
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I am not complaining about the battery drainage per-se.
My previous phone was a Nokia N900, which I used all day long for calls, mails, radio listening, ssh to my home computer, etc... and I knew well that I could not use it for more than a day without charging, sometimes even less.
The phone battery was never advertized as being able to cope with such usage, and only announced battery times for 2G/3G calls.
When I first read announcements about the N7000, I read that Samsung decided to increase the battery power to make it last 2 days, which looked nice to me.
Now I have hardly 13 hours of battery time with my usage (see my previous post) and I want to know:
- is it a normal behaviour for the phone?
- is there a way to make things better with the same hardware?
- do I really need to lower my expectations?
If the answer to the last question is yes, I will be of course disappointed but I can cope with it, as I did with my previous phones. As CorruptedSanity already mentioned, my only complains are to the Samsung techs (or advertizers) and not to any member of this forum who are usually able to help beyond my needs.
I hope that screen optimizations will come that will increase the battery life while I use the phone, but my expectations are low.
You can expect around 5 hrs of screen time based on peoples reports here
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You can expect around 5 hrs of screen time based on peoples reports here
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Yup, that's the killer IMO. I can leave WiFi enabled all day, or use the phone for a couple of hours of calls and a few hours of 'screen time'. Not both!
Before rooting and killing bloatware, I could do neither.
Hey all. I just got my s6 active via insurance upgrade about 5 days ago.. I expected more battery from what I read... I unplugged it this morning at 525 and by 625 I was at 92%. Is this normal? The battery screen doesn't add up to the battery % lost. I'm just trying to figure out how everyone is getting this great battery. Is it possible they sent me a referbed with a used battery? Many days/weeks of running the phone will it take in order for the battery to even out?
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Hey all. I just got my s6 active via insurance upgrade about 5 days ago.. I expected more battery from what I read... I unplugged it this morning at 525 and by 625 I was at 92%. Is this normal? The battery screen doesn't add up to the battery % lost. I'm just trying to figure out how everyone is getting this great battery. Is it possible they sent me a referbed with a used battery? Many days/weeks of running the phone will it take in order for the battery to even out?
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Seems like your phone doesn't go into deep sleep. There is a rogue app that is probably causing your phone not going into deep sleep. Find the app cure the problem.
Yes it does take many cycles for the battery to reach optimal battery life
Nothing keeping it alive.... Cpu sleep time is the majority of the time. I do use my phone heavily. But i get about the same life as I did with my s5 active..
Same here. I "upgraded" from a 6S on the premise of much better battery life and waterproof without the need of a LifeProof case.
So far I'm getting about the same, maybe less life out of it than my iPhone. I've been out of the Android game for almost 2 years, what can I do to fix this?
Based on battery tests and whatnot, I should be losing around 6-7% per hour, instead of the 10-12% I'm losing now, about on par with an iPhone with half the battery size.
Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: Noob mistake, forgot to mention I'm on the forced 5.1.1 version.
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Same here. I "upgraded" from a 6S on the premise of much better battery life and waterproof without the need of a LifeProof case.
So far I'm getting about the same, maybe less life out of it than my iPhone. I've been out of the Android game for almost 2 years, what can I do to fix this?
Based on battery tests and whatnot, I should be losing around 6-7% per hour, instead of the 10-12% I'm losing now, about on par with an iPhone with half the battery size.
Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: Noob mistake, forgot to mention I'm on the forced 5.1.1 version.
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The 5.1.1 version was a battery hog for me too. Before it, i would make it til bedtime with about 30-40% battery of moderate usage. During the 5.1.1 upgrade i was at 40-50% before lunch! Had to charge twice daily. Now with Marshmallow, i'm back up to all day battery. Even lately being a heavy user, it'll generally last all day. I might be at 5% by bedtime, but it'll last all day.
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The 5.1.1 version was a battery hog for me too. Before it, i would make it til bedtime with about 30-40% battery of moderate usage. During the 5.1.1 upgrade i was at 40-50% before lunch! Had to charge twice daily. Now with Marshmallow, i'm back up to all day battery. Even lately being a heavy user, it'll generally last all day. I might be at 5% by bedtime, but it'll last all day.
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How much SOT do you get?
I lose about 6% per hour if I watch videos on wifi, however I lose 1% every 6-7 minutes if I'm using my phone for anything else.
What system process is killing the battery? There's no reason I shouldn't get over 12 hours of SOT from daily usage.
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captaingowa said:
One process that I have noticed in the past that will crush your battery is the Microsoft exchange server..
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That's what I'm talking about. I used to freeze basically all non vanilla processes back in the G2 days with Titanium Backup, how can I freeze the Exchange server? It doesn't show up under "Applications" in settings.
Currently on 6.0.1.
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How much SOT do you get?
I lose about 6% per hour if I watch videos on wifi, however I lose 1% every 6-7 minutes if I'm using my phone for anything else.
What system process is killing the battery? There's no reason I shouldn't get over 12 hours of SOT from daily usage.
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I don't know how to say this without sounding condescending, i don't mean to, but you're insane if you think you should get anywhere near 12 hours SOT. Let alone "no reason I shouldn't get over 12 hours of SOT". I doubt I could get 12 hours SOT with 2 batteries.
I average 5-6 hours SOT which i think is actually pretty awesome, (And that's with the dark theme). I honestly don't count battery percentages and compare videos to surfing/browsing. I just know that i can use my phone all day and I don't have to charge it until bedtime.
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I average 5-6 hours SOT which i think is actually pretty awesome, (And that's with the dark theme).... I just know that i can use my phone all day and I don't have to charge it until bedtime.
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Their web browsing test is a more realistic expectation, which is why I said 12. They got 16 hours, which I don't doubt, but this phone draining comparably to a 4+ year old HTC? Not at all impressed.
I have screenshots where I tested their results vs actual daily usage and they were very close for every phone.
But no worries, I'm glad you're satisfied with your phone's performance.
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Their web browsing test is a more realistic expectation, which is why I said 12. They got 16 hours, which I don't doubt, but this phone draining comparably to a 4+ year old HTC? Not at all impressed.
I have screenshots where I tested their results vs actual daily usage and they were very close for every phone.
But no worries, I'm glad you're satisfied with your phone's performance.
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What web browsing test are you refering to? I'd like to run the same test and see what i get. Almost nobody gets over 6 hours....
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...-how-much-screen-time-you-getting-charge.html
A few new phones have come out with massive batteries, but still not 12 hours SOT. One guy with a 10Ah zerolemon on his note 4 was able to get 16 hours (unverified), but that's the best i've ever heard.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-active-battery-life-test/
The One X, S3, LG G2, and iPhone 6 & 6S web browsing results were great representations of what I could expect as far as smartphone battery goes. I've had more phones than I can count, but those were the ones I kept the longest and remember the results off the top of my head.
I can find my old One X SOT screenshots to further prove my point.
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-active-battery-life-test/
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This makes no sense to me. In their test, the battery lasted longer playing videos, than web surfing? Something is off here. I've never seen a phone have more than 6 hours SOT, ever (with the exception of extended batteries). Maybe if the phone was in extreme battery saver mode and the screen was at the lowest setting possible, and it was only on 3g, it might be possible to get 6 hours. I'm not calling you a liar, or the article you posted a lie, i just have to believe something else is going on. If i was to get 12+ hours of SOT, for me, that would be equivlent to the phone lasting me all work week.
I hope you get your battery life figured out, but i have to believe we're on different pages here about something. There was an update pushed out this morning, maybe it will help a little.
Not getting this "awesome" battery life??
Yes, this is due to less CPU usage and videos/movies are not almost entirely white.
I looped a couple of YouTube movies and left the S6 Active running all night at 50% brightness with only wifi on. I woke up, 8 or so hours of SOT, and the battery has 59% left. This leads me to believe it's a system app, more than likely a Samsung one, since all of my other Android phones don't have this issue.
I'll post up actual pictures when I get home, I'm back on my iPhone.
You haven't been here long, which is fine, but trust me when I say that there's something draining the battery. A G2 with a 3000mAh battery lasted over 9 hours consistently with data on, the S6A should have no problem matching that.
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Hello I have recently purchased an used S6 active gsm unlockrd with android 5.1. This is my first day with it I still don't know about the battery stats anyway I would like to know if I will get improvement in marshmallow. What are the advantages. Also since at the s6 and s6 edge the marshmallow update improved the camera speed. I would like to know if it will improve also the camera speed. Thanks
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Yes, this is due to less CPU usage and videos/movies are not almost entirely white.
I looped a couple of YouTube movies and left the S6 Active running all night at 50% battery life with only wifi on. I woke up, 8 or so hours of SOT, and the battery has 59% left. This leads me to believe it's a system app, more than likely a Samsung one, since all of my other Android phones don't have this issue.
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You haven't been here long, which is fine, but trust me when I say that there's something draining the battery. A G2 with a 3000mAh battery lasted over 9 hours consistently with data on, the S6A should have no problem matching that.
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Hmmm, maybe i'm just considering real world use instead of ideal conditions. Kinda like how i'm supposed to get 35 mpg in my car, but actually only get about 26-27.
When i was on 5.1.1 and had insane battery drainage, all of my research and testing said it was kernel related. I just stuck it out and waited for marshmallow, and now my battery is back to acceptable to me.
Keep us updated if you figure it out, even though i'm relatively happy with my battery life, i'm always happy to get more.
P.S. I've actually been here longer than you, so i'm not sure if that was directed at me. You are way more active and most likely way more software savvy than i am, but i've been here a long time.
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That's really impressive.
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Yeah he gained 9% battery by leaving his phone on all night, lol. I kid, maybe i'm just reading it wrong.
"left running all night at 50% battery life....... I woke up, and the battery has 59% left"
Not getting this "awesome" battery life??
I meant brightness, too many ideas at once haha. I'm posting actual pictures in a second, and will keep the phone running while I'm at work.
It has to do with a Samsung "feature", I've turned off most of them from settings. Next will be disabling packages.
It sucks that we don't have root, it seems like an AOSP Rom would net us the battery life that we should get.
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Hello all. Coming from S7 edge.. So far not thrilled with battery life.. Anyone have comments on the battery life they seem to be getting?
Pretty poor too...I feel like my iPhone 6s Plus which I have replaced with the Note 7 was getting much much much better battery life
I've already used Greenify to freeze a ton of apps and used the Disabler Pro to disable a bunch of crap, but still, pretty crappy!
Ugh I miss the Note 4 days, root, customer recovery/rom/bootloader/etc, was customized nicely and got a ton of battery life, plus the huge brick-like ZeroLemon battery which made my phone last almost 2 full days of heavy usage lol
Yes.
Kick down the settings. This is one of the good features within the Note 7.
Settings > Device maintenance > Battery > Power saving mode > MID > Customize > 80%/HD/Limit device performance > Apply
Within "App power monitor" in Battery settings you can manage power hungry apps by putting them to sleep when your device screen is off.
You can turn off features that you don't use.
AskTheAndroidGuy on YouTube has a couple videos in managing battery life and speeding up (which also will help with battery life) the Galalxy Note 7.
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Yes.
Kick down the settings. This is one of the good features within the Note 7.
Settings > Device maintenance > Battery > Power saving mode > MID > Customize > 80%/HD/Limit device performance > Apply
Within "App power monitor" in Battery settings you can manage power hungry apps by putting them to sleep when your device screen is off.
You can turn off features that you don't use.
AskTheAndroidGuy on YouTube has a couple videos in managing battery life and speeding up (which also will help with battery life) the Galalxy Note 7.
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Battery life has been disappointing. Granted that I'm comparing to both my OnePlus 3 and S7E. I really hope things even out after a couple of cycles. GSAM battery monitor is showing only 3 hours average screen on time after 2 full cycles. I was getting close to 4.5 on my OnePlus 3. Cmon, Samsung!
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Why is Android System the 1st on my list of battery usage? shouldn't it be screen?
i have question. why are you guys even comparing battery life on a phone thats been out for 2 days to a phone that you've used for at least over a month? of course it will suck compared to those. those phones batteries have had a chance to mature and settle in. give the phone a week to settle in. sheesh.
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Why is Android System the 1st on my list of battery usage? shouldn't it be screen?
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Same issue that the Snapdragon variant of the s7E had on release. It's so annoying.
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Why is Android System the 1st on my list of battery usage? shouldn't it be screen?
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it will only be screen depending on how much you use the screen on that cycle. if your screen is off most the time then android system will use most battery because of syncing all the services you have running. this is normal and not anything to be stressing about. also this phones screen tech is very very efficient. gone are the days when screen eats up your battery.
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Hello all. Coming from S7 edge.. So far not thrilled with battery life.. Anyone have comments on the battery life they seem to be getting?
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Same here. Battery life has been sucking so bad on this. My Note 5 was a beast when I first got it. Note 7 battery life has been quite a disappointment so far. Will give it a few more days to see if it improves
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As to why complain with only two days use, the S7 didn't need time to adjust.. It's battery life was stellar out of the box. You are going to find the battery life on this is average at best. It's not a huge thing to me as I'm always around a charger but it's a bit disappointing
I still feel as though it is a wee bit too early to comment on battery life entirely, but I am not having too many issues. I came from an S7 Edge. I used Package Disabler Pro to rid myself of the bloatware (albeit there is less on a T-Mobile device). I kicked out the Touchwiz launcher and installed Nova to my liking. I am using a Material theme, and all seems well. There is a bit of increased battery usage, but it doesn't seem too terribly bad.
This battery is bigger than the Note 5 and I remember that phone's battery being better out of the box.
Is conditioning the battery still a thing?
I still say that if you manage your power usage by doing things like lower the resolution, etc (like AskTheAndroidGuy on YouTube shown in his videos) then you can get more battery life per charge. I went from 5am to 3:30pm and still had 81% battery life left. Playing music, scanning barcodes at stores to learn about the products and price comparison, using Chrome browser and Google Now for the same, installed apps, configured apps, and much more (I only watch two five minute videos.). That is 19% of battery for 10.5 hours.
If you keep the Note 7 at highest resolution while using it, watching videos, etc. your battery life will be low. Having such good quality technology also means sacrifice on battery life.
What I am saying is while you on the go why not go for HD (720p) resolution, 80% max brightness, turning off features not using, etc. to get good battery life. Then turn on the highest quality video and features of the device when you are using them.
The tools are there. It is up to you how you use them and the results you get.
BTW - I am running Ocean HD live wallpaper. Very tricky to get live wallpaper running on this thing. But it is another app that uses battery life. Looks cool with the curve glass (especially when the fish swim through the curve glass.
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As to why complain with only two days use, the S7 didn't need time to adjust.. It's battery life was stellar out of the box. You are going to find the battery life on this is average at best. It's not a huge thing to me as I'm always around a charger but it's a bit disappointing
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Agreed. Phones that have stellar battery life make it obvious right out the box. This whole getting used to scene is another placebo created by people who suffer from buyer's remorse. Battery life really is disappointing compared to S7 edge and Note 5.
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Like every phone there needs to be a few cycles on the battery before battery life is set
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Like every phone there needs to be a few cycles on the battery before battery life is set
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It might be true. However, having owned almost every Samsung galaxy flagship I have found that their latest flagships do not have one particular kind of battery life. On some days it's 5 or 6hrs of SOT and on other days it's only 2 or 3hrs SOT. Some days you have Screen on top of Battery stats and other days you have Android System or Cell stand by killing it all. It's extremely frustrating.
I mean now I am getting what one would call immaculate battery life, I have 1:30 SOT and I am at 80%. I don't even know whether to be joyous for having this battery life as of now or be sad knowing I had a similar experience with Note 5 and other Samsung flagships. They just can't get it right can they?
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It might be true. However, having owned almost every Samsung galaxy flagship I have found that their latest flagships do not have one particular kind of battery life. On some days it's 5 or 6hrs of SOT and on other days it's only 2 or 3hrs SOT. Some days you have Screen on top of Battery stats and other days you have Android System or Cell stand by killing it all. It's extremely frustrating.
I mean now I am getting what one would call immaculate battery life, I have 1:30 SOT and I am at 80%. I don't even know whether to be joyous for having this battery life as of now or be sad knowing I had a similar experience with Note 5 and other Samsung flagships. They just can't get it right can they?
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Wow. That's spectacular.
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I have had fairly light usage buy right now I have gone 1d 11h 16m with 3h 42m SOT. I am at 7% so I am getting ready to plug in but that isn't bad to me.
umair239 said:
It might be true. However, having owned almost every Samsung galaxy flagship I have found that their latest flagships do not have one particular kind of battery life. On some days it's 5 or 6hrs of SOT and on other days it's only 2 or 3hrs SOT. Some days you have Screen on top of Battery stats and other days you have Android System or Cell stand by killing it all. It's extremely frustrating.
I mean now I am getting what one would call immaculate battery life, I have 1:30 SOT and I am at 80%. I don't even know whether to be joyous for having this battery life as of now or be sad knowing I had a similar experience with Note 5 and other Samsung flagships. They just can't get it right can they?
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Looks good I have a similar sit at 85%
But then again I'm at my third cycle I expect it will get better as all other phones I had have done
My note 7 battery life so far is very good. At 8 am I had 70% now is 10:10 and still have 7%. Without battery save. (I use my phone a lot for work ..