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Greetings forum,
I am sensing a common trend here in the forum. People are not reading... which leads me to question if what I am writing here will help.
Please. I beg of you. Before you root your phone, please read about it. Read what it does, how it does it, and what risks you are taking by doing it. There is plenty of information on this site. If you cannot find it here, remember, GOOGLE is your friend.
Now this is probably well known forum etiquette, but please use the search bar. If you are having a problem, look for an answer. Please do not clutter the forum with duplicate threads. Many times, information is not always phone dependent. Meaning, a solution for a Nexus 1 could, very well, work for a Droid, or any android based phone. Do not limit yourself to your phone. There have been numerous occasions where I have found help in a G1 forum or a Droid forum.
This forum is a (usually)friendly place to find and exchange information. (People get grumpy when you ask questions that have already been answered.) It is not, specifically, a help desk. Many people want to use it for customer support. This is not the place, even though many people will help you out. Your carrier has a support line. Please think about it before you post something like "Why isn't my phone getting reception?", or "Why aren't my text messages going through?".
Finally, if you want to get into development you have to read, a lot. If you root your phone or want to build an app or just want to customize, you have to read. Before you start deleting files or adding files or rooting or changing /system/framework, please read. There's tons of documentation. There is very little pity for people wanting to be spoon fed (at least on my part). If this is something you simply cannot or will not do, please do not download root uninstaller and start deleting stuff. Please do not try to upgrade your phone yourself. The carrier retail stores are more than willing to help you.
Get involved and be a part of the forum. You can learn a lot.

Thanks, I was getting a little annoyed seeing the same posts again and again.
If you have a question please search for an answer and then ask your question. Also you can join us on IRC.
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Bump for STICKY!

I second the +1, definitley need a sticky

+1
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Looks like no one is coming here first so... BUMP!

CONFUSED
search then ask doesn't mean search scan the results threads and then ask it means search read the results then ask to clarify what knowledge you gleaned from the results you read.... I see too many people say I read the thread but cant find this or that literally 2 or three posts after the last guy posted the EXACT SAME THING and got a reply. some of these threads would literally be two thirds smaller without the constant repitition.

Truth.
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I have repeated myself a few times in several threads because some just don't read more than the most recent posts.
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Well how bout just starting/creating a section or forum or whatever it would be called, where open thoughts/questions/ideas/or whatever can just be asked/discussed WITHOUT having to go thru all the searching and back posts and reading n reading? A section that's out of the way of all the techs but still within the zio section. Work and kids and other things going on in life don't leave much search/type/read n read time, lot easier to just ask (even if its already been asked some other where) and check back later for any results/replies.
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"Now I'm so broke I can't even pay attention!!"

I understand that, and that is what this thread is dedicated to. I totally understand a busy work schedule. I worked an average of 45 hours a week doing tech support for AT&T U-verse, plus taking the bus and going to college.
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Gingerbread Update

This is not intended as a speculation thread about Gingerbread update for optimus black!
I have seen some information on LG facebook page about the netherlands receiving the update. I would like to ask if this information is valid.
The reason for opening a new thread just for a question is that there is no other open thread related to Gingerbread update for optimus black on this forum.
Also I would like to ask the kind moderator overseeing this forum not to close this thread, but instead I suggest to keep it clean (by editing/deleting missplaced/insulting posts).
Should anyone have any other information related to the update, feel free to post it, just please don't "speculate"!

Translated from italian: Lg italia Facebook
In response to numerous requests received, LG has tried to speed up as much as possible the release of Gingerbread for Optimum BLACK declaring its readiness to start this week.
We regret, but there are problems with imperative that forced us to delay the release of Gingerbread for Optimus in BLACK.
LG's goal is indeed to ensure the highest quality releases on sw. We are confident to release the update in the coming weeks.
We apologize for the inconvenience and we thank all users of Optimus Black for your confidence.
sincerely
LG MOBILE.

My Europe Open phone does not currently have any updates besides v10E. Unless the system checks for the country in which you are currently in (as you can travel with your phone anywhere and the system checks for the IMEI afaik), there is no current update. A post will be made as soon as it is available.
Please DO NOT reply to this thread unless you have *proof* that it has been released, or any other official announcement (with source included). Any other reply will probably only be trolling or spamming. Thanks

fyi:
I live in the netherlands, and they still dont have the gingerbread update.
Source: dont have gb
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bellalmo said:
Source: dont have gb
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haha, I like your source

My phone has found an update just minute ago, but it's only 3.5 mb. I'm now on 2.2.2.
I can't install it cuz I need a charger for that.
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Theres nothing wrong of having a single speculation thread. We just need one place to talk about it. A moderator can just delete this thread once the official update is disclosed.
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BoyBawang2 said:
Theres nothing wrong of having a single speculation thread. We just need one place to talk about it. A moderator can just delete this thread once the official update is disclosed.
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What can you discuss about it? "is it here yet?!?!?!?!?!?" "why it is not here yet?????" "LG sucks" "the world hates us" "never going to buy LG again" "I hate you all". There is only one fact: it has not yet been released, and nothing we do will influence that, no matter how much we "discuss" it
That is the kind of answers you will shortly see in a GB speculation thread. Will it be helpful to anyone? most likely not. Will it get in the way of people that check this forum to actually see when it is really released? probably yes. Just my two cents

Well a lot of people want a speculation thread so why not give it to them?
Think admins are locking these threads for no good reason.
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I guess a thread about GB makes sense while LG announces officially update, then nothing happens, then LG apologize. It's good to write the news somewhere, for people who's time isn't unlimited for searching such things. And also, there's no speculation when there are official announces. A speculation is based on a thought, on something unsure and unknown, not a fact.

Man these moderators act like hard core dictators. Hope I don't get banned for this now. Lol
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Threads are closed because of posts that are rude or/and are getting far away the main subject : Gingerbread update. Not about if you hate LG or else. Reinbeau is just trying to keep our sub-forum clean as possible and understandable.
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Can anyone tell me what benefits GB have over Froyo? I don't think about bugfixes, i think about performance, new GUI options for MODs etc. Why do people want GB so much? And what does GB lack that will be so awesome with ICS? I haven't figured that out yet. I don't care for the new GUI, it looks kind way to flashy bling bling, dark with "blue neon", kinda geeky, lol.
I mean, i don't want my phone to look like a colorful toy, i want it to look sleek and sexy, and ofc preform well I'll mod every possible aspect of the phone, at least those whose look childish (and a lot of LG's crap do).

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Can anyone tell me what benefits GB have over Froyo? I don't think about bugfixes, i think about performance, new GUI options for MODs etc. Why do people want GB so much? And what does GB lack that will be so awesome with ICS? I haven't figured that out yet. I don't care for the new GUI, it looks kind way to flashy bling bling, dark with "blue neon", kinda geeky, lol.
I mean, i don't want my phone to look like a colorful toy, i want it to look sleek and sexy, and ofc preform well I'll mod every possible aspect of the phone, at least those whose look childish (and a lot of LG's crap do).
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It has a better battery management, also RAM. Graphic performance improved. Some other optimization here and there. But you won't notice it for daily use
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Sobralobo said:
Threads are closed because of posts that are rude or/and are getting far away the main subject : Gingerbread update. Not about if you hate LG or else. Reinbeau is just trying to keep our sub-forum clean as possible and understandable.
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yes,our forum is very clean

alyy81 said:
Man these moderators act like hard core dictators. Hope I don't get banned for this now. Lol
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Sobralobo said:
Threads are closed because of posts that are rude or/and are getting far away the main subject : Gingerbread update. Not about if you hate LG or else. Reinbeau is just trying to keep our sub-forum clean as possible and understandable.
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Thank you. And a glaring example is right above your post. Alyy81, posts like yours are why these threads get closed.
You do not need a thread where people rant, rave, whine and cry about the antipated GB update. It benefits no one and causes nothing but disruption in the forum. If it were to remain an informative place where real information could be shared it would be one thing, but that's not the way these threads generally go. They get reported. By forum participants. It isn't an arbitrary decision on my part or on any other moderator's part. For responding to reports and keeping the forums clean we get berated, called stupid, dictators, and any other manner of vile insults.
This thread is now closed. As will be any other thread opened like this. If any real information comes out send it to me and I'll post it in the thread I updated today. Send me a PM with the information and if it is real, good information it will be posted.

Something is weird in the dev section...

I don't understand/speak english very well, but it seems it's like if all the dev who's working on the Note are fighting against each other, like children
I respect the devs and their work, but everything would be better if all the devs unite all together in order to do a great ****ing rom...

Whats your assumption based on?
I have big respects for all devs / chefs here. If it wernt for eyebe i wouldnt have solved some issues in the early days of my rom. Theres always healthy competition which is good for users and peeps who suffer ocfd.
And if someone is critical in a constructive manner then it spurs you on to perfect as best you can. Androids open source and that ideology is used in cutom roms. Share and enhance pushing the boundaries of whats avaliable and All for the benefit of the users on xda. In an ideal world eveyone would work on one rom. However its not and people like choice and variety and thats what you have here.
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I don't get the impression that there's any bad blood in the dev forum, but if I had one wish, it would be that every dev would need to state their design philosophy (and perhaps some of their methods) in the beginning of the thread, to get a better feel if their particular product is for us.

Without ROM competition will not be a good product. All interested in promoting ROM developers will try to offer the best.

Yeah, one might think so, they are fighting against each others.
But if y ou read between the lines it is because some "devs" just don´t care about some sort of protocol.
"steal" ideas from each other without giving credits and so on.
It´s up to everyone themservesto judge this as childish or narrow minded, but it´s the opinion of those devs themselves which finally counts in the end.
I personally had it seen coming. so many differenz people working on same or similar project. It has been a matter of time that some Devs cross their lines.
I would love to have them having shake hand and to combine their powers to create an even more powerful project, but those people seem to have to be some sort of lone wolf to be creative in that way.
Anyway we´ll see what happens. And I guess many more motivated devs coming when official sources from samsung will become available to devs.
That will massively push ICS developement further for our device.

As you can see miui post has been closed
It's impressive...
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another one quit his project?
The surely are some people havin short-circiuted head right now.
Blowing thing up much above a healthy level.

ssss69 said:
As you can see miui post has been closed
It's impressive...
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Why was it closed?
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nickyg008 said:
Why was it closed?
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The dev was removed from XDA by the moderators. Whether that's a temp or permanent removal is not yet entirely clear.

chasmodo said:
The dev was removed from XDA by the moderators. Whether that's a temp or permanent removal is not yet entirely clear.
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Wow pretty big to get banned. Was it because of the picture he posted in a comment?
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I didn't had the time to follow the whole MIUI Revolution thread, so I won't defend anybody, but it's quite a bad news
The work done is/was truly amazing.
Livewings probably got upset by people asking question/ETA/stuff
Hope he or someone will continue the good work!

This seems to just hurt our development community. Bad news. I am using the MIUI ROM and now I am not sure we will be able to pursue development of this ROM. Bad bad bad news.

nickyg008 said:
Wow pretty big to get banned. Was it because of the picture he posted in a comment?
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Oh looks like the whole thread is deleted. I can't find it anymore.
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Yep, it really is deleted.

chasmodo said:
Yep, it really is deleted.
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What a shame
But shouldn't the people participating in the thread be informed? I am not contesting the Mods actions here, it is their site and they could do anything they like, but it is minimum courtesy to inform the participants that it has been deleted for so-and-so reason.
This is hoping better sense prevails!

I don't understand this shot, why have they erased all of it? This shows the respect that the mods have to the Dev community
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I think peeps need to chill abit its starting to get like an episode of eastenders in here
It is what it is. Mods have hard enough time keeping these forums clean i mean how many ics posts are closed daily how many non dev threads in dev section get placed all the time.
There are rules to avoid this if members could only be bothered to do a little reading first but peeps dont. Chas dyslexic thread was so true to the bone its scary and these peeps are flashing roms god help them
The devs try to push the boundaries all for your benefit. Why because you and i ask them to. No one here really cares who puts out the rom just as long as you can feed your addictions. Me included.
Ill always want to flash the latest and greatest and the only way to achieve this is competition by what ever means.
But remember no one can steal anything from anyone as it wasnt theres to own.
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I have to admit. Everyday I used to visit a HD2 forum for a veery long time and everything was in order there. People used to obey the rules.
In GNote section there are a lot of newbies who don't even bother to get familiar with the xda's rules.

[Q] help with weui

Hey guys this is my first post but I'm not a complete newb. With that being said I'm using weui but I can't play songs from my external memory card and I tried turning it on in cwm recovery that didn't work? Plz help. How do I fix?

You are apparently a complete newb/noob/nuub/nub/newbie since this has been addressed since the beginning.... Can't right now.

Umm I don't read comments I only read the first post sorry I actually have things to do

That's not how this works... You need to follow XDA's rules about searching....
Dude, do you think you are the only person on here with a personal life??? If so, you need a reality check as we all have lives, some more stressful than yours...
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You do know the whole point is to help and not try to have people reading 50 pages of a thread to hopefully stumble upon an answer to their problems right? Oh that's right its about being arrogant and selfrightous ? Gtfo if you're not trying to help.

I bet if you had read the list of bugs or not yet implemented features you would have seen it... People like you ruin XDA and you need to gtfo or learn to fix your problem yourself.
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Thread closed
Coming to XDA and telling people you're too busy to do your own research is a red flag - no one is here to hold your hand. Ask in an entitled manner and these are the responses you'll get. Thread closed.

So basically none of you guys came to help. And I talked to night shack who thought it the sdcard was working.which prove my question valid. And also I begged for an answer to my problem how was that "entitled"? so why dont you guys troll somewhere else hahah

xda is not a tech support or help forum.
this is a common misconception. it is a development forum, for developing, ie creating software
we are nerds and computer programmers, we cut and paste what already exists, we dont rewrite everything for everyone that asks. the information is out there, we found it, you can too. also as nerds we have an obligation to have bad people skills and be condescending to those with inferior technological skills. gwah...

A read about the forum state regarding Kit Kat OTA update

This is not a rant or a moan or whatever you want to call it. This is just clearing a few things up after the last few days what i have been reading on the forum.
Firstly support for N4 will still be there after this update, and i am sure we have at least one more major update to come for our beloved device. People saying that our phone will be next are just talking rubbish. People all over the forum are crying thinking that our device will be next. Until a confirmation from Google can people please stop with the conspiracy theories.
Also regarding with the launcher. Now i am not that really bothered if it gets released or not as i do not use Google Now. But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
I love my phone and i do not see a reason why i should upgrade to the Nexus 5. I do not want though people in the forum to start moaning about things that are not official yet from the God itself which is Google. Yes they are not perfect but until the actual release gets to our device and we have things missing then fine all hell can break lose.
Oh and one last thing. Yes am gutted that we not got the update soon as the release came out but we are still the first to get it were other mega devices are not getting it at least December or Xmas the earliest..So am still thankful for the Nexus line. But that will start not meaning anything soon anyway if they carry this new strategy of there to put money first before anything else.
But till then please take a chill pill people.
This will get shut down and deleted am sure but i just wanted people to read this and seriously take it easy till there is ACTUAL CONFIRMATION by GOOGLE THEMSELVES..
Mods sorry if this should not be here but sometimes a man has enough when reading through the forums and having whiny kids whine all the time.
And to add...We are XDA...If things go missing and are not included in the build that our beloved N4 should get then people trust our great and respectful Developers here who are if you do not mind me saying better than those at Google..We will have those features that the N5 has and if not should be better build than stock...So please show your support for our devs and less whining and help this place for newbies instead of moaning all the time about something that has not been confirmed yet

:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess

Ignasiuz said:
:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess
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exactly my friend. until something has been confirmed i do not understand why people are panicking. and by the next update which will be by summer time our phone should be more than capable to handle it and i am sure we are in for that to. phones should have a support from the OS development team ie Google at least maximum two years...so why are people are stressed is beyond me.
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say

Goku80 said:
But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
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Sure there is confirmation. It is not included in the Nexus 7 WiFi KitKat update. And Google confirmed it with The Verge and said it is possible they will bring it to other devices other than the N5 someday but not initially.

Great post OP.. You know what I think it is? Purely my opinion after mulling over how absolutely weird the 4.4 rollout and release has been.
Ever been in a corporate environment where someone important is replaced? It's hell.. JBQ left and was replaced.. So here you have a new guy who is pulling the old corporate "I'm new and have to flex my superiority and change things to make it look like I'm doing something different and being productive" (ie: Fishing for his next promotion).. This happens in nearly every business.. It's hilarious to watch happen in real life because most employees know it's coming.. 3 months later after everyone hates the new guy and his useless changes everything goes right back to the way it was. I'm certain all the rumblings this is causing is being heard..

This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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In b4 lock

No please, not again.
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forever_lol said:
No please, not again.
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Its called discussion. If you do not want to participate then don't post. Hence why the other thread got closed
Cause useless posts like yours
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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Goku80 said:
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say
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It has to do with the Ti core not being supported anymore. Also, not being supported by Ti did not meant it doesn't work for Galaxy Nexus, just means Google would not support a device without former support to its hardware.
Anyways, Galaxy Nexus got 4.4 already, go Install it

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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion will be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and closed. Good luck though
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Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?

forever_lol said:
Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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It is not about getting many thanks..To be honest got enough already as it is. Now moving on

a g bell said:
This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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Notice the GSM/LTE tablets haven't got an update yet either...

RealiZms said:
Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?
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To be honest the reason why i opened this thread is to get my opinion about the many things that i have read on the forum. Many false information that is going around by others is beyond ridiculous because they listen to tech sites most of them without any proper confirmation by Google itself...Now as to regarding the updates that are coming for our device if there is an official changelog by Google to say what are the changes from the older nexus devices compare to the N5 then i will eat my hat if it is out already stating what we are getting and missing out on..
But again people forget that XDA is here to help..Hence why we should not be ranting and raving
What am trying to say is that i want this thread to stick to a proper adult discussion about our device regarding the build that we should get..And i do not want people to give mis-information till we get it from the Big Boss itself

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I can understand your point here OP but, the purpose of forums such as this one is to allow for open discussion on a topic. I see no issue with speculation or assumption as long as people keep their heads. That is, after all, what makes things interesting and keeps people intrigued. If we went purely on the facts at hand 100% of the time, discussions would end fairly quickly and most forums would be desolate places.
Just my .02

Thread closed at request of the OP